excited to share info re: dyatlov pass incident

Are you saying the fire had been used two days in a row? We have forensics showing that the Cedar tree fire only lasted 45 mins to an hour and no effort was made to keep it burning is why I ask...

Ha! The problem is "exposure" was not the cause of death for a number of them. I only wish Boris Yeltsin got the goods on this when he was in power. (He was obsessed with this mystery as a young man) I wish Putin would release the info already. The anniversary is coming up again and I keep hoping there may be a breakthrough.




Last Edited by wingedmo26 on 01/26/2017 07:14 PM

You have to think backwards

They attempted to go back to the cedar tree because they had lit a fire there the night before

You have to think how much radiation poisoning they received combined with how few of them died of hypothermia (but they had a similar problem of feeling to hot because of the radiation)

In addition, they had 'food storage', close to the cedar tree, they had stacked the night before, for their return journey back down the mountain that they didn't want to lift up with them

That is why they went back to the cedar tree during the incident

Dyatlov and two others never made it that far...

They did not reach the cedar treeline and then decide to return to the tent area...The ground was literally shifting underneath them, which is why they were found as they were

The tent was on a tilt of 20° on Kholat Syakl

Think what type of avalanche CAN be lethal at an incline as slight as 15° and very dangerous even at 12° ??

Think what type of 'exploration' was going on in that area ?

Did Dyatlov mention planes at all in his diary ?

If one of those planes got into a critical situation in an area like that, what would be the emergency protocol ?

We are not talking here about the...moon coming down from the firmament, yetis, military testing (in a known hiking area ?)

Common sense dictates what happened to the Dyatlov nine

So you think the fire that never lasted more than an hour was lit the day before? Why would they only have the fire lit for one hour the day/night before when they weren't under duress? We assume the fire was the night of their deaths not only because the tracks lead there from the tent and the 2 Yuris bodies were there, but also because the "event" would have been the reason they didn't maintain the fire past an hour (at best).

I've never heard the firepit being argued as a timeline issue is why I ask.

Anniversary is just around the corner!

I had considered the 'danger' nearest the tent was something like a fireball, especially after seeing the last pics on his camera.

And yet.. the thought of a helicopter hovering low, with the (head)light shining into the tent.. hmmm. I mean, I can picture that freaking them the heck out, in the pitch dark. And if that was the case, it very likely was a military copter.

So I was wondering whether or not a military copter hovering close down like that could explain the heat source that scorched the ground near the tent... And then, in an unrelated search, I came across the story about the Queen of England being so angry about the helicopters that Obama used back in the day, they had scorched the Queens lawn.



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Hi. I am the founder's (Winged Mo) research assistant, Kholat. You are correct that the first fear was near the top of the mountain ridge. Since the evidence clearly shows that the tourists walked down the slope in a very deliberate fashion, that would seem to rule out the fear of a helicopter. If and when a helicopter may have arrived before the Search and Rescues people is another story that does not fit well since there is no evidence of an actual landing, much less some kind of coverup. If such a helicopter did arrive, I believe it was observational only.

Thus the fear had to be overwhelming, containing both heat and light, and probably mass. Remember, all 9 of the skiers are IT students and technically rather knowledgeable. I believe they observed comet fragments very low on the horizon over the mountain ridge and near the tent -- that would produce intense heat, light and fiery fear, as well as beta radiation (comets do that, but not meteorites). What they did not fully realize was that the comet fragments were in orbit. Thus while they feared the open granite mountain where the tent was located could attract magnetic or metallic objects, they did not understand the orbit -- or they would not have hiked down slope in the exact orbital path of the fragments. Thus fear of the fragments drove them down slope where more fragments finished them off within 48 minutes as the fragments continued
the arc of attack.

I should add that 6 of the 9 skiers showed some evidence of an explosive sonic force (exploding comet fragments with beta radiation)in their deaths. The explosion above the "den" was truly horrific on 3 of the 4 den dwellers. And the two Yuri's at the big tree fire appeared to be in shock from a direct fiery hit, singeing the tops of tall trees immediately behind them.

The real cover-up in this story is attributing the deaths to hypothermia. Yes, they froze to death, but only after other forces had greatly debilitated them.

Hi Wyks,

More thoughts on the helicopter. The issues are who and when.

1. The glazed circle 40' from the tent was very likely caused by a hovering helicopter. You are correct about that. Note there is no evidence that the landing platform actually touched down, or anyone jumped out and down to the ground. The scene produced no footprints other than the skiers, nor any sign of conflict. And the skiers calmly walked down the mountain slope for about 15 minutes.

My conclusion is that a helicopter did not appear early on or frighten the skiers or cause the exit down the slope.

2. So why would a helicopter (99% military likelihood) appear at all? I believe the orange lights (which I call comet fragments)in the night sky attracted military interest. There were air bases nearby, missile testing facilities nearby and Siberian gulag camps everywhere.

Remember, other ski campers had observed the lights over 30 miles away. It is likely the military sent a chopper to investigate, and may have hovered near the tent. Seeing no signs of human life near the tent, the chopper left the area. Meanwhile the Soviet Government was worried about what the lights really were and closed the area to further trekkers for two years while they awaited further evidence. Then this plan was somewhat negated by the SAR teams, heavily composed of amateurs. But note the amateurs found no evidence of a visit by anyone or a helicopter, much less signs of a coverup. These amateurs were top notch: IT students who personally knew Igor Dyatlov and his team; Mansi hunters; Ural mountain foresters; and, local law enforcement people. And Moscow was monitoring from afar.

One interesting thought. No one has made the effort to compare the SAR helicopters' landing marks to the preexisting hovering mark that has sparked your interest.

I recently read the book "Dead Mountain".

According to the interviews with the search teams that first arrived, it took several days to locate the bodies of the hikers...and the others, weeks?

The searchers were using poles to stick in the ground in looking for the hiker's bodies.

Can someone please tell me why they keep bringing up the footprints? If there were footprints...and no new snowfall, in the intermittent period between hikers not coming back, and rescue efforts..there would be footprints.

IF there was snow...as indicated in the book, anything/anything, anyone is possible.as all was obscured.

Thank you for any feedback on this.

You are correct. Some footprints remained, others did not. Two bodies were easy to find, seven others were not.

Bodies. The four den dwellers were buried under 15 feet of snow from day one by a sonic explosion -- so they were not found until Spring. The two Yuri's found beneath the Cedar tree were the first to be found since they were positioned on the ground by the seven remaining campers. Even they had some snow atop them. The final three (called the tent returnees)and led by Dyatlov himself were at least 85% buried in snow, so they were not easily spotted by the searchers.

Consider distance. The den was about 60 yards from the Cedar tree, and the three returnee bodies averaged about 120 yards in another direction.

It is likely that these tracking anomalies were caused by wind, heat, granite, and mountain slope.

1. Mountain ridge. The mountain was topped with exposed granite in many places. Thus the wind was continually blowing away snow accumulation near the summit, leaving exposed areas. The tent caught some of that wind and blowing snow built up against it. Remember, two inches of snow can cause ten inch drifts with wind and catching barriers.

2. Heat. Heat from a hovering helicopter appeared to cause a circular, icy patch near the tent. Many of the skiers footprints were observed near the tent and about 40% down the slope before they disappeared into heavily drifting snow below. Since some of the hikers were in stocking feet, the heat from their feet melted the snow, freezing the imprint. Some of these prints were located by blowing loose snow away. The three returnee bodies displayed signs of melting beneath them (mostly revealing that they collapsed while still alive).

This subject goes on forever. Oh, if the Russian government would ever admit they had a helicopter at the scene at any point in time before SAR arrival. Oddly, I don't think since admission would reveal collusion and coverup, but rather incompetence and Soviet paranoia.

Yes, What you have written, has a certain resonance of truth
to it. I agree, the Russian gov't (or anyone still alive with truth), should come forth.

Thank you.

In recent posts several of us have referenced the icy, circular indication of a hovering helicopter near the tent, and what that might mean to the outcome of the skiers, behavior of the Soviet government etc.

Suppose the icy spot was not a helicopter at all?

I first set forth my time/sequence chart on page 13 of this thread on January 18, 2016 at 10:55 PM. This chart suggests that the cause of the deaths were comet fragments in earth orbit and stayed in orbit for more than two months from February 1st through March 31st at least.

Key elements of my theory (referenced by me as inspired by the work of Nevsky and Budarin) are:
1. Seismic data corresponding with watch times to show an early morning, not evening, three part attack;
2. Intelligent, not panicked, behavior by the skiers -- suggesting they could see clearly in the early light;
3. Crater impacts on the backside of the Kholat summit that suggests only some of the missives cleared the summit and attacked the tent area, and later valley below; and,
4. The fragments displayed a comet like tail (called pearls by observers). So we have an intense orange orb, a tail of pearls, electric explosions and thermal heat waves.

One of those thermal waves not only heated the tent but sprung all of the tent anchor poles. Could that heat wave also have created the so-called frozen circle we usually attribute to a helicopter?

Can I just share that hitting 30,000 views I'd such a milestone! I'm so pleased!!!!!!!

Another loose end to any Dyatlov theory: Time of death.

For years, everyone assumed the time of death to be between 7:45 and 9:00 PM on the night of February 1, 1959.

Then seismic data is discovered that reveals explosions did in fact occur between 7:45 and 9:00 AM on the morning of February 2nd. Recovered watches support either possibility.

So we turn to the autopsy reports for other clues. Rate of digestion in the stomach creates a predictable timeline.
The evening death theory reveals too much digestion in the
stomach; and the morning death theory shows too little digestion. Hopefully someone was autopsy skills can add to this discussion.

Now if one believes autopsy reports are easy, consider this. Many Woolly Mammoths have been recovered from the frozen north of Russia. Their stomachs contain undigested food. The food is tropical vegetation. This means that the animals had to be blast frozen (a modern term) in less than 30 minutes to cause death, yet leave undigested food. The Mammoth meat was so perfect, expedition dogs act it safely.

Random bump today, hello canada! Welcome to my favorite thread! *shannon (op)

Recent discussions with a surgeon confirm our analysis of the hyoid bone and the possibility of tongue extraction by sonic, fiery explosion from the above-rear of the den dwellers.

Alma's.
The cuts in the tent were small near the peak.
Peep holes facing down the hill to the forest.

Foot prints in snow were of stocking feet and BARE feet.

Dead men at fire had circular bruises on ankles. Pulled from trees. Flesh from hands high up in branches.

Girl had no eyes or tongue.
Classic Bigfoot/menk eating habits.

Just read Russian vpns are blocked on glp. Are there any Russians that can still see this? We really wish to have Russian contributions:(

This is Kholat. Recently I was reexamining the exit from the test issue.

I offer the following thoughts:

1. The speed of people exit was likely caused by the extreme heat within the tent - likely 130 degrees.

2. The heat was probably caused by exploding electrical comet discharges, one of which landed just beyond the tent, in turn producing the well documented shiny "landing pad"and perhaps the heat within the tent.

3. Inside the tent, the ski tourists flailed at the sidewalls with a knife, failing at first, but then finally cutting through.

4. The heat was so intense that no time existed for any to crawl through the tent flap door.

5. No time also existed for any to grab clothes to carry.

6. Once outside the tourists were still "heated" for a few seconds and fled only when they feared another direct hit at the tent -- which was highly exposed near the ridge top.

7. Scurrying down the mountainside in about 7 minutes they did not realize they were heading in the direct path of the continuing comet fragments that were falling in an orbital pattern on their direct path to the cedar tree death site of the two Yuri's.

This case is so mysterious and interesting to me.

We will never have the answers that we seek.

Vice did a pretty lame little article claiming Russia has reopened the case. If only it wasn't such an awful "publication" like Vice reporting it, I would be really excited!