excited to share info re: dyatlov pass incident

As an aid to visualisation, I put together a basic 3D simulation.

To accurately model the terrain I used SRTM heightmap data for the Dyatlov Pass and surrounding areas (covering about 200km^2).

I used coordinates I found on another forum. I'm confident the tent position is accurate, but not sure about the others. (Compare the initial view with: [link to www.aquiziam.com] )

The cache: 61°44'39.3"N – 59°27'02.9"E
The tent: 61°45'30.29"N 59°25'50.88"E
Third rocky stripe: 61°45'38.0"N – 59°26'15.3"E
The cedar: 61° 45' 54.73" N - 59° 27' 13.65" E (Yuri Krivonischenko and Yuri Doroshenko)
Zina Kolmogorova: 61°45'39.6"N – 59°26'42.9"E (Igor Dyatlov and Rustem Slobodin found further from tent)
The flooring: 61° 45' 52.38" N - 59° 27'1 5.83" E
The Creek 61°45'53.2"N – 59°27'15.5"E (Ludmila Dubinina, Alexander Kolevatov, Nicolai Thibeaux-Brignolles and Semyon Zolotariov)

(Not sure what 'flooring' and 'rocky stripe' refer to.)


I have not yet added much more than the tent and the trees (and the treeline is mostly guesswork as I have no detailed maps).

I was only able to produce a build for Windows. The beta version of Unity will not permit me to deploy a web build, but I will put one up soon. Also the GUI had issues, so use the keyboard shortcuts listed in the readme.


Download (20MB):

[link to s3-ap-northeast-1.amazonaws.com (secure)]


Let me know what you think and please share any data or useful images and maps that will allow me to fill it out with more detail.

What map did they have and why was it a state secret? Where was it supposed to lead them? Link?

One of the odd things about the case is that no one knew their route. They were supposed to give it to someone at the University before they left, but didn't. When they didn't return home on time, Yuri, the student who canceled at the last minute, had to figure out from memory where they were headed.

op here: According to one of my books, one I loaned my dad, simon/alexandr/Sasha (whatever you want to call him) was found with a pencil in one hand and paper in the other- along with that camera around his neck which was also connected to his belt. This really really startled me. Damn incriminating considering all he had been through before he got to the point of death with the pencil and paper. Let's also remember his is the journal not found in the official report. (Either there was water damage or it was never recovered both are listed as "truth")

I came accross a youtube documentary from 1997 produced by the ural mountains version of PBS last night. In the past I had to skip it because it was all russian language with no subtitles. low and behold, my phone settings allow not only the subtitles to appear, but will also translate it to english. SO AWESOME. The 9th and 10th members are interviewed, Searchers, and even video of various locations relevant to the case. While I'm excited to see the documentary, I want to share a rumor they mention in the film. Here it is: a young and totally drunk military officer said he had seen the missing journal from Sasha and that it wasn't damaged but rather diliberately sequestered from the other evidence due to its incriminating content. Is this not the leak we have always been wondering about? first time I even heard about the rumor, goodness knows I have been looking for them. Would this explain the mixed info regarding the Journal either not being found or found with water damage?

A rumor is a rumor, I know. What do we all think about this? Has anyone else read about this supposed drunken officer spilling the beans?


We would need his name. Bottom line is: This happened
in 1959....there should/would be PLENTY of people still
alive that have first hand knowledge of what went on in
Russia at that time.
Has anyone from Russia spoke up lately...rumors, folk-tales,
kin?

Not if their intended target was mountainous, and they were testing for just that terrain

Op here, I wouldn't discount the issue of the terrain being a factor, good observation.

But I will say the following: a few years prior the trendiness of ski tourism took off. It was very popular for students to take these trips during school breaks, this is one of them. They had to apply with the city offices to take the tour, showing them their intended routes. Also, we have other ski tours on the other side of the mountains doing the same thing. If I was the government testing a top secret weapon I wouldn't do it in a region i knew for a fact people were in (they certainly did) and I sure as heck wouldn't do it during a scool break which would guarantee visitors.

Also, they would have restricted land elsewhere for such Tests.....

why not? it would be quick and painless you know....

Hey op, I will let you in on a little secret concerning what happened at dylatov. Google- forgottenlanguages dot org dylatov pass incident. Click first link, your welcome!

What's This Face Melting Off Quote about? I don't see this on my thread....I keep tabs on it as op to make sure everyone is being respectful of each other which I'm proud to say we really are. That, and of course, I really enjoy the topic and appreciate everyone's different point of view. kinda cool to see non-americans here too :) I wish we could gets some Russians chiming in!

Excellent point.

Hey op, I will let you in on a little secret concerning what happened at dylatov. Google- forgottenlanguages dot org dylatov pass incident. Click first link, your welcome!

Look at Krivonishenko's last photo upside down. What does it remind you of?

[link to i2.wp.com]


To me this looks like a flashlight laying on either the tent canvas or some snow. It seems consistent with a beam of light directed over a bumpy surface.

If so, it's clearly an accidental shot, perhaps taken during the chaotic moment when the group were abandoning the tent.

However, since the tripod was attached, it would seem much more likely that the camera would fall on its side than upside down.

Another possibility is that the camera was placed upside down beside the flashlight while the tripod was being attached, and then the shutter button was accidentally pressed.

That raises again the question I earlier asked about Zolotarev: why was anyone preparing to take photos at night. Also, why use a bright light filter?

Zolotarev's body was found with a camera. When many of the group were running around in -25'C temperatures wearing only underwear (and socks if they were lucky), why did that guy lug around a camera and the notepad mentioned by OP?



One possibly inconsistent feature of the light is its square shape. If one of the two flashlights that were found had a square beam, that would I think make this possibility likely.

I think it needs to be mentioned at this point that the hikers, except for George, who was stripped, were wearing alot more than underwear and socks. This is per the autopsies.

It seems to me that it would be pretty hard for any of them to die of hyperthermia with what they were wearing. The lack of shoes wouldn't necessarily mean hyperthermia either, it would mean frostbite.

Three or four of them did die of Hyperthermia, but that was only after they were severely injured and couldn't move.

I guess the fact that Hyperthermia is mentioned so often in the various articles, makes me wonder where it came from considering it's not a very valid theory. They were dressed pretty damn well.

How do we know that the eye matches the body? Maybe they wanted to examine the eye after the "test" and replaced it with another from another human?

Op here, I'm going to go ahead and say that isn't very likely...

Anyhow, we aren't questioning the eyes still in their heads...we are questioning the ones that were pulled out, again past the connective tissue which isn't exposed.

Do we all understand this is the same outcome you would have if someone was to push their thumbs in to someone's eye sockets, dislodge the eyes, and then proceed to rip them out by force. This is unfortunately a common torture technique. It's been done a lot, which is how we know the results are the same.

Is everyone on board with the eyes situation at this point? Other theories/thoughts on the eyes that we haven't already addressed? I'm completely open to original ideas that haven't already been debunked.

Op here, I'm going to go ahead and say that isn't very likely...

Anyhow, we aren't questioning the eyes still in their heads...we are questioning the ones that were pulled out, again past the connective tissue which isn't exposed.

Do we all understand this is the same outcome you would have if someone was to push their thumbs in to someone's eye sockets, dislodge the eyes, and then proceed to rip them out by force. This is unfortunately a common torture technique. It's been done a lot, which is how we know the results are the same.

Is everyone on board with the eyes situation at this point? Other theories/thoughts on the eyes that we haven't already addressed? I'm completely open to original ideas that haven't already been debunked.

Well, I just can't go with the torture probability. As already
mentioned, in order to somewhat debunk the military testing,
the area was KNOWN to have hikers within that region.
Even if it were military, WHY would they torture them?



I am starting to feel it was "experimental" to some degree...
or just very cruel, for cruelty sake.

I feel like you are taking torture off the table simply because some feel (me included) it couldn't have been premeditated by the military. It could be not-planned by the military and it could be a third party all together...I lean towards the latter.

I feel like you are taking torture off the table simply because some feel (me included) it couldn't have been premeditated by the military. It could be not-planned by the military and it could be a third party all together...I lean towards the latter.

But torture for what? For all appearances, they were just
another group of student hikers? Why would either the
military or an outside group believe they possessed information above and beyond what any other person would
have access to?
I am only going with the rudimentary facts, as I cannot access
the translation from Russian from informative sites.
Lack of footprints..animal, or other humans is puzzling. Did
they determine if ANY footprints followed the hikers from
the tent?