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Gas truck explodes outside children's hospital in Mexico!!!

 
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This is so awful. :(
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Yes, very. Not a lot of coverage either. Once in a while CNN will mention it, but I guess the Aaron Hernandez trial is more important. Pfffttt!
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Oh My Gosh!

How horrible.


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verysad
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Poor kids!! verysad
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Yup, now their backs may never get wet crossing the Rio Grande.
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That is not nice of you to say

pope I'll heal you...
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He doesn't deserve healing. He is a product of an ethnocentric-thinking race that was told they are superior to everyone else but now has been relegated to second-class status in a country that was never theirs to begin with. He is seeing females of his race being bred with other races which is against everything they believe in - much like Adolph Hitler believed. In a few short decades there will no longer be natural blue-eyed blondes of the Anglo-Saxon ethnicity in the USA but mostly olive skinned people with dark hair. Look it up. This has been forecast to happen throughout the entire world. This angers them greatly. That is why people like him lash out as they do. Meanwhile, other races will flourish since they are not concerned with matters such as these.
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You forget about God and genetics. Did you see the picture of the black couple and the very very very white baby they gave birth to? The baby was beautiful and the parents looked ecstatic.
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horrible news. good God, I can't imagine there being much safety regs in that country, but this should start some regs moving in the right direction.
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verysad
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How does a gas truck explode, aren't there safety features to protect from this?

Sounds like it was a maternity hospital, so not only women and children, but babies!

How sad
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That story sounds fishy to me LNG is usually stable when transported, gastanks are build to withstand hours of fire.

There are cases where fires where burning for hours and the firefighters cooled the tanks and it didnt explode at all.
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How does a gas truck explode, aren't there safety features to protect from this?

Sounds like it was a maternity hospital, so not only women and children, but babies!

How sad
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I'm sure they will all be found alive and well somewhere in south Texas.
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How does a gas truck explode, aren't there safety features to protect from this?

Sounds like it was a maternity hospital, so not only women and children, but babies!

How sad
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I'm sure they will all be found alive and well somewhere in south Texas.
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Unfortunately most likely true...
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How does a gas truck explode, aren't there safety features to protect from this?

Sounds like it was a maternity hospital, so not only women and children, but babies!

How sad
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That story sounds fishy to me LNG is usually stable when transported, gastanks are build to withstand hours of fire.

There are cases where fires where burning for hours and the firefighters cooled the tanks and it didnt explode at all.
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Ya, unless the guy was smoking or something, pretty hard to imagine.
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This video says the truck was supplying gas to the hospital when the hose broke and the leak caused the explosion. Not sure what actually happened but the first video I posted said the truck crashed into the hospital...


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I think that this was part of their AGENDA 21 depopulation plan
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Contrary to what some believe in the US, if people could make a decent living in a safe city most Mexicans would not move to the US. And if Mexico is a shithole of corruption, the US governments over the decades and centuries are not blameless, in fact the western world and the IMF have a lot of blame.

In the past 25 years there have been 3 outright fraudulent elections in Mexico, where the winner did not assume power. Funny how the US can get their panties in knot over the Ukraine, but they actually supported and continue to support the corrupt unelected governments of Salinas, Calderon and Pena Nieto. I would think that an illegitimate president involved in money laundering and drug trafficking would be more pressing that bringing "democracy" to far away countries.

In fact, the turning point that brought us to where we are today was preventing the rightfully elected president Cuauhtemoc Cardenas from becoming president in 1988 and allowing the Salinas cartel to bring narco government to Mexico. The Salinas and Bush families have a lot of history, not hard to research on the net. The Salinas presidency is where it all went dark, and if the US and the western world had stood up and prevented him from taking power, things might have been different.

The very wealthy may have businesses and properties in the US, but they also have homes in Mexico. The middle class is just trying to stay afloat and it is a shrinking class, and the poor are desperate to find a way to survive. Unfortunately the criminals are the ones polluting the reputation of Mexicans.
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How does a gas truck explode, aren't there safety features to protect from this?

Sounds like it was a maternity hospital, so not only women and children, but babies!

How sad
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67477786


That story sounds fishy to me LNG is usually stable when transported, gastanks are build to withstand hours of fire.

There are cases where fires where burning for hours and the firefighters cooled the tanks and it didnt explode at all.
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Ya, unless the guy was smoking or something, pretty hard to imagine.
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I work with LPG inside and outside of Mexico. Unfortunately I have been on the liability side of similar occurrences. My opinion as to what happened is as follows:

The Mexican culture legitimizes cheating...from the street sweeper to the president and all levels in-between. Virtually nothing is done above board and there is a virtually-codified way of bribing authorities at any/all levels.

For this scenario the norm is to bribe a certified inspector to look a one or two of your trucks and then he will certify the other trucks so the supplier doesn't have to pull them from the routes. The problem was the broken hose, but the tank itself should have had an internal excess flow valve that would shut off the flow in an uncontrolled release. Obviously it was absent.

Second, the hose was probably old as Adam. The hoses are kept in a reel and each time the driver reels the hose in and out, there is a chance to snag something. Over time the hose is guaranteed to break, its just a matter of time.

The third ingredient needed is concentration of LPG with air (LPG won't combust until it reaches an 8:1 ratio with air. This normally cannot happen in the open air as LPG immediately vaporizes and rises. The exception is in an uncontrolled release a "cloud" forms and cannot dissipate quickly enough.

Finally, you just need an ignition source...anything will do from a cigarette to a running engine.

Obviously all these factors came together to produce this accident and I cannot imagine the pain both parties are going through (the vendor of the propane for instance). These are just people as well...especially the drivers who are paid extremely low wages.

There is virtually zero hazmat training...most workers and consumers don't even know what is inside the bottles and tanks...it is a complete mystery to them.

Well, that's my take.

As an anecdote, one time we were loading a 10,500 gallon trailer fro ma railcar and the attendant was disconnecting the hose so he hit the flange with his brass hammer to unscrew it...the pipe nipple on the truck side of the hose was so rusted (but painted over) that it just broke right off...and there was no internal excess flow valve to stop the leak. We released 10,000 gallons of propane instaneously into the atmosphere...but all procedures had been followed up t that point and afterwards...the only guy hurt was the attendent disconnecting the hose and he had rather severe burns on his hand (from the cold temperature of the vaporizing propane).

Anyway, such a tragedy...I had a small hose rupture like that and the propane got caught under a roof and concentrated. the owner of the house was told to not go in, but he insisted that he had to turn out the pilot light of his water heater...blew the whole house up the moment he opened the utility room door...he layed for three days with his swollen intestines laying beside him on the bed until he finally died.

poor kids. poor mamas and daddies. poor family of the drivers. all because Mexico can't get their shit together.
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This is why when I see gas trucks,I try to get away from them.
Especially when at the gas station refilling the gas reservoir. I feel so sorry for the victims. It reminds me of the Oaklahoma truck bomb.

It just goes to show us that you never know when your last day on earth is.
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Re: Gas truck explodes outside children's hospital in Mexico!!!
How does a gas truck explode, aren't there safety features to protect from this?

Sounds like it was a maternity hospital, so not only women and children, but babies!

How sad
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67477786


That story sounds fishy to me LNG is usually stable when transported, gastanks are build to withstand hours of fire.

There are cases where fires where burning for hours and the firefighters cooled the tanks and it didnt explode at all.
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Ya, unless the guy was smoking or something, pretty hard to imagine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67477786


I work with LPG inside and outside of Mexico. Unfortunately I have been on the liability side of similar occurrences. My opinion as to what happened is as follows:

The Mexican culture legitimizes cheating...from the street sweeper to the president and all levels in-between. Virtually nothing is done above board and there is a virtually-codified way of bribing authorities at any/all levels.

For this scenario the norm is to bribe a certified inspector to look a one or two of your trucks and then he will certify the other trucks so the supplier doesn't have to pull them from the routes. The problem was the broken hose, but the tank itself should have had an internal excess flow valve that would shut off the flow in an uncontrolled release. Obviously it was absent.

Second, the hose was probably old as Adam. The hoses are kept in a reel and each time the driver reels the hose in and out, there is a chance to snag something. Over time the hose is guaranteed to break, its just a matter of time.

The third ingredient needed is concentration of LPG with air (LPG won't combust until it reaches an 8:1 ratio with air. This normally cannot happen in the open air as LPG immediately vaporizes and rises. The exception is in an uncontrolled release a "cloud" forms and cannot dissipate quickly enough.

Finally, you just need an ignition source...anything will do from a cigarette to a running engine.

Obviously all these factors came together to produce this accident and I cannot imagine the pain both parties are going through (the vendor of the propane for instance). These are just people as well...especially the drivers who are paid extremely low wages.

There is virtually zero hazmat training...most workers and consumers don't even know what is inside the bottles and tanks...it is a complete mystery to them.

Well, that's my take.

As an anecdote, one time we were loading a 10,500 gallon trailer fro ma railcar and the attendant was disconnecting the hose so he hit the flange with his brass hammer to unscrew it...the pipe nipple on the truck side of the hose was so rusted (but painted over) that it just broke right off...and there was no internal excess flow valve to stop the leak. We released 10,000 gallons of propane instaneously into the atmosphere...but all procedures had been followed up t that point and afterwards...the only guy hurt was the attendent disconnecting the hose and he had rather severe burns on his hand (from the cold temperature of the vaporizing propane).

Anyway, such a tragedy...I had a small hose rupture like that and the propane got caught under a roof and concentrated. the owner of the house was told to not go in, but he insisted that he had to turn out the pilot light of his water heater...blew the whole house up the moment he opened the utility room door...he layed for three days with his swollen intestines laying beside him on the bed until he finally died.

poor kids. poor mamas and daddies. poor family of the drivers. all because Mexico can't get their shit together.
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Thank you for your insight.
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How does a gas truck explode, aren't there safety features to protect from this?

Sounds like it was a maternity hospital, so not only women and children, but babies!

How sad
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67477786


That story sounds fishy to me LNG is usually stable when transported, gastanks are build to withstand hours of fire.

There are cases where fires where burning for hours and the firefighters cooled the tanks and it didnt explode at all.
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Except when the tank is ruptured.

No one said this was a BLEVE. (look it up)
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Poor kids!! verysad
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Yup, now their backs may never get wet crossing the Rio Grande.
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yayyyyy crispy critters
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It was LPG, liquified petroleum Gas, or propane as it is called in our country. LNG is liquified natural gas...which is not what this was, and it was not gasoline...common mistakes.

The truck was a bobtail...it looks like a rolling oblong tank with rounded ends...usually about 12,000 gallons capacity (the larger ones). Just like the ones that deliver propane to stationary tanks all over...very common.

As an aside, if anyone finds out the supplier, please post it.

thanks
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How does a gas truck explode, aren't there safety features to protect from this?

Sounds like it was a maternity hospital, so not only women and children, but babies!

How sad
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Haha! Clearly you have never been to mexico.

"Safety regulations" are a foreign concept in that country.
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Don't over analyze this.

It was mexicans working with things that go boom.
They blew up a fucking hospital.

"But they're such nice people and hard workers ... wah, wah, wah. We should give them everything including the United States."

People who think bringing mexicans here is a good idea have never been around a bunch of mexicans.

Lie, cheat and steal. It's the mexican way.
You will pay dearly for your willful blindness to that fact, America.
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Don't over analyze this.

It was mexicans working with things that go boom.
They blew up a fucking hospital.

"But they're such nice people and hard workers ... wah, wah, wah. We should give them everything including the United States."

People who think bringing mexicans here is a good idea have never been around a bunch of mexicans.

Lie, cheat and steal. It's the mexican way.
You will pay dearly for your willful blindness to that fact, America.
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First of all this thread isn't about bringing Mexicans to the US. Maybe if you weren't so damn racist you would see that. And also see that many, of EVERY race, lie, cheat and steal.

:s27gohome:
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A gas tank truck exploded outside a maternity and children's hospital in Mexico City on Thursday, leaving much of it in ruins. At least one person was reported dead and dozens injured. <50%
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A story right out the Breaking Bad series and the Mexican drug cartels.

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Don't over analyze this.

It was mexicans working with things that go boom.
They blew up a fucking hospital.

"But they're such nice people and hard workers ... wah, wah, wah. We should give them everything including the United States."

People who think bringing mexicans here is a good idea have never been around a bunch of mexicans.

Lie, cheat and steal. It's the mexican way.
You will pay dearly for your willful blindness to that fact, America.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38745008


First of all this thread isn't about bringing Mexicans to the US. Maybe if you weren't so damn racist you would see that. And also see that many, of EVERY race, lie, cheat and steal.

:s27gohome:
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Meh, you believe prediction tards.

I win.

You're dumb like a mexican. Were you dropped on your head as a child?

Lie, cheat and steal is the credo of the mexican people. They teach their children to lie, cheat and steal. Any white person that does that is just an failed mexican, Simple.
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Don't over analyze this.

It was mexicans working with things that go boom.
They blew up a fucking hospital.

"But they're such nice people and hard workers ... wah, wah, wah. We should give them everything including the United States."

People who think bringing mexicans here is a good idea have never been around a bunch of mexicans.

Lie, cheat and steal. It's the mexican way.
You will pay dearly for your willful blindness to that fact, America.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38745008


First of all this thread isn't about bringing Mexicans to the US. Maybe if you weren't so damn racist you would see that. And also see that many, of EVERY race, lie, cheat and steal.

:s27gohome:
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Meh, you believe prediction tards.

I win.

You're dumb like a mexican. Were you dropped on your head as a child?

Lie, cheat and steal is the credo of the mexican people. They teach their children to lie, cheat and steal. Any white person that does that is just an failed mexican, Simple.
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You're shallow. Pathetic really. Ever think in terms of human beings/human lives???

Well many innocent children were hurt and/or killed during this tragedy. Have a fucking heart!
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Don't over analyze this.

It was mexicans working with things that go boom.
They blew up a fucking hospital.

"But they're such nice people and hard workers ... wah, wah, wah. We should give them everything including the United States."

People who think bringing mexicans here is a good idea have never been around a bunch of mexicans.

Lie, cheat and steal. It's the mexican way.
You will pay dearly for your willful blindness to that fact, America.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38745008


First of all this thread isn't about bringing Mexicans to the US. Maybe if you weren't so damn racist you would see that. And also see that many, of EVERY race, lie, cheat and steal.

:s27gohome:
 Quoting: Simple27


Meh, you believe prediction tards.


I win.

You're dumb like a mexican. Were you dropped on your head as a child?

Lie, cheat and steal is the credo of the mexican people. They teach their children to lie, cheat and steal. Any white person that does that is just an failed mexican, Simple.
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NO

This happens here there and everywhere....



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with tears streaming down my face.

You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
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Don't over analyze this.

It was mexicans working with things that go boom.
They blew up a fucking hospital.

"But they're such nice people and hard workers ... wah, wah, wah. We should give them everything including the United States."

People who think bringing mexicans here is a good idea have never been around a bunch of mexicans.

Lie, cheat and steal. It's the mexican way.
You will pay dearly for your willful blindness to that fact, America.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38745008


First of all this thread isn't about bringing Mexicans to the US. Maybe if you weren't so damn racist you would see that. And also see that many, of EVERY race, lie, cheat and steal.

:s27gohome:
 Quoting: Simple27


Meh, you believe prediction tards.

I win.

You're dumb like a mexican. Were you dropped on your head as a child?

Lie, cheat and steal is the credo of the mexican people. They teach their children to lie, cheat and steal. Any white person that does that is just an failed mexican, Simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67506288


You're shallow. Pathetic really. Ever think in terms of human beings/human lives???

Well many innocent children were hurt and/or killed during this tragedy. Have a fucking heart!
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Fuck off. Learn think critically.
or not.
Here you go: 10.0 eq in california tomorrow. never wrong.
fucking tard.
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First of all this thread isn't about bringing Mexicans to the US. Maybe if you weren't so damn racist you would see that. And also see that many, of EVERY race, lie, cheat and steal.

:s27gohome:
 Quoting: Simple27


Meh, you believe prediction tards.

I win.

You're dumb like a mexican. Were you dropped on your head as a child?

Lie, cheat and steal is the credo of the mexican people. They teach their children to lie, cheat and steal. Any white person that does that is just an failed mexican, Simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67506288


You're shallow. Pathetic really. Ever think in terms of human beings/human lives???

Well many innocent children were hurt and/or killed during this tragedy. Have a fucking heart!
 Quoting: Simple27


Fuck off. Learn think critically.
or not.
Here you go: 10.0 eq in california tomorrow. never wrong.
fucking tard.
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Unfortunately the Mexican bashers are 100% accurate...somewhat heartless but accurate.





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