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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67105399 United States 02/03/2015 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doesn't' surprise me that most here spit in the face of Jesus when congratulating paganism. Quoting: daughteroftheking Doesn't surprise me at all because, although "awake" to conspiracy theories, you're still all typical of the world's mindset that the one true God does in fact exist and He is worthy or ALL praise and worship and any other form of praise and worship is evil to the core and in fact a form of satanism. You all are still "asleep" in that sense along with the majority of the world. That is why Jesus Himself said the road to eternal life was narrow and few will find it. His words are always true! No, that's just your egoic mind being 'offended' and feeling insecure that other people in this Universe do not believe and worship at you do. You 'wake up' honey - this existence does not revolve around your personal, chosen beliefs just because you want it to be so... It could be that some have not read the article. Headline is: A modern version of Norse paganism has been gaining popularity in recent years as followers see the stories as metaphors for life not worship of the gods This is a celebration of their culture, which I fully support. From the article: “I don’t believe anyone believes in a one-eyed man who is riding about on a horse with eight feet,” said Hilmar Örn Hilmarsson, high priest of Ásatrúarfélagið, an association that promotes faith in the Norse gods. “We see the stories as poetic metaphors and a manifestation of the forces of nature and human psychology.” This is respecting the roots of their culture and what motivated them to be who they are then and now. I am a Christian and am not offput nor offended by the building of this temple. They could not have been clearer on what their intentions are. I just don't think people are actually reading the article and are just responding to the thread title. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 755245 United Kingdom 02/03/2015 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a saying that you become something not to " hate" others but to be more yourself. So this is inaccurate. Its not a means like KKK or neo Nazis to destroy the so called brown enemy. That isn't what Norse religion is about at all! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 60702613 United States 02/03/2015 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doesn't' surprise me that most here spit in the face of Jesus when congratulating paganism. Quoting: daughteroftheking Doesn't surprise me at all because, although "awake" to conspiracy theories, you're still all typical of the world's mindset that the one true God does in fact exist and He is worthy or ALL praise and worship and any other form of praise and worship is evil to the core and in fact a form of satanism. You all are still "asleep" in that sense along with the majority of the world. That is why Jesus Himself said the road to eternal life was narrow and few will find it. His words are always true! No, that's just your egoic mind being 'offended' and feeling insecure that other people in this Universe do not believe and worship at you do. You 'wake up' honey - this existence does not revolve around your personal, chosen beliefs just because you want it to be so... It could be that some have not read the article. Headline is: A modern version of Norse paganism has been gaining popularity in recent years as followers see the stories as metaphors for life not worship of the gods This is a celebration of their culture, which I fully support. From the article: “I don’t believe anyone believes in a one-eyed man who is riding about on a horse with eight feet,” said Hilmar Örn Hilmarsson, high priest of Ásatrúarfélagið, an association that promotes faith in the Norse gods. “We see the stories as poetic metaphors and a manifestation of the forces of nature and human psychology.” This is respecting the roots of their culture and what motivated them to be who they are then and now. I am a Christian and am not offput nor offended by the building of this temple. They could not have been clearer on what their intentions are. I just don't think people are actually reading the article and are just responding to the thread title. Oh I read the article alright, and I stand by what I said. If you were close to the Lord, you would see the error in all of this. Celebrating ones roots, if the roots are bad, isn't a good thing......spiritually speaking. And, it's not that "i'm" offended, or "you're" not offended, it's about what the ALMIGHTY CREATOR thinks and if HE is offended.........cause that's all that matters! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65111541 United States 02/03/2015 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why? Because they worship different gods than you do? Personally, I'd like to see the whole of Europe go back to it's neo-pagan. Christianity, much like Islam has brought nothing but ruin to any country it's infected. If you read the Bible with a logical mind, and I really do mean a LOGICAL MIND, just put yourself in Jesus'es position, I know he didn't die for our sins. Everyone has their own sins to repair, what is the fucking point to sacrifice his only begotten son(IRONICALLY Jesus=God(you can only be a son or a father(god)))?the whole human book people call Bible is a load of whatevers. I don't want Jesus to die for my sins or take me to eternal rest. I didn't do enough in my life to deserve that, besides just the fact I came into earth, is reason enough for my existence. Other Christians tell they don't belong here, well if you don't belong here, you wouldn't be here... Pagan has more realistic beliefs than Christianity. I do not believe our Creator is in a body of a human or even a humanoid. At best it's an atomic energy that is everywhere past/present/future. Quantum entangled. law of Attraction works only because everything is secretly woven together in a big energy network. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49469499 Sweden 02/03/2015 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If we lived by the 9 Noble Virtues that exist in the Norse religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 755245 1.Courage 2.Truth 3.Honour 4.Fidelity 5.Discipline 6.Hospitality 7.Self Reliance 8.Industriousness 9.Perseverance Asatru 1.Strength is better than weakness 2.Courage is better than cowardice 3.Joy is better than guilt 4.Honour is better than dishonour 5.Freedom is better than slavery 6.Kinship is better than alienation 7.Realism is better than dogmatism 8.Vigor is better than lifelessness 9.Ancestry is better than universalism Its obvious why these ways have been gotten rid of and made to seem disgusting. Its because there would no longer be corrupt politicians who are given second chances or exploited countries. People want to protect the nasty evil on earth still! You mean the Norse religion as established by John Yeowell in the 1970s? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67105399 United States 02/03/2015 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doesn't' surprise me that most here spit in the face of Jesus when congratulating paganism. Quoting: daughteroftheking Doesn't surprise me at all because, although "awake" to conspiracy theories, you're still all typical of the world's mindset that the one true God does in fact exist and He is worthy or ALL praise and worship and any other form of praise and worship is evil to the core and in fact a form of satanism. You all are still "asleep" in that sense along with the majority of the world. That is why Jesus Himself said the road to eternal life was narrow and few will find it. His words are always true! No, that's just your egoic mind being 'offended' and feeling insecure that other people in this Universe do not believe and worship at you do. You 'wake up' honey - this existence does not revolve around your personal, chosen beliefs just because you want it to be so... It could be that some have not read the article. Headline is: A modern version of Norse paganism has been gaining popularity in recent years as followers see the stories as metaphors for life not worship of the gods This is a celebration of their culture, which I fully support. From the article: “I don’t believe anyone believes in a one-eyed man who is riding about on a horse with eight feet,” said Hilmar Örn Hilmarsson, high priest of Ásatrúarfélagið, an association that promotes faith in the Norse gods. “We see the stories as poetic metaphors and a manifestation of the forces of nature and human psychology.” This is respecting the roots of their culture and what motivated them to be who they are then and now. I am a Christian and am not offput nor offended by the building of this temple. They could not have been clearer on what their intentions are. I just don't think people are actually reading the article and are just responding to the thread title. Oh I read the article alright, and I stand by what I said. If you were close to the Lord, you would see the error in all of this. Celebrating ones roots, if the roots are bad, isn't a good thing......spiritually speaking. And, it's not that "i'm" offended, or "you're" not offended, it's about what the ALMIGHTY CREATOR thinks and if HE is offended.........cause that's all that matters! No, I do not accept your thinking that unless I agree that this is a spit in the face of Christ then I am not close to the Lord. I no more find this wrong than I do Native Americans who celebrate their heritage and adhere to "old ways" yet go to church every Sunday. The builders of the temple are very clear on their intent. They are very clear in terms of not worshipping pagan gods. The only thing I agree with in your statement is that what matters is what God thinks. Whatever you think my relationship to the Lord is, whatever you think about how this offends you, does not matter in the least. Ultimately that is between me and God and not me and you. It is also not up to you nor I to determine whether or not their "roots" are bad. That judgment, again, is not up to you. You are certainly free to comment on it, but its value is in the eye of the beholder. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 755245 United Kingdom 02/03/2015 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If we lived by the 9 Noble Virtues that exist in the Norse religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 755245 1.Courage 2.Truth 3.Honour 4.Fidelity 5.Discipline 6.Hospitality 7.Self Reliance 8.Industriousness 9.Perseverance Asatru 1.Strength is better than weakness 2.Courage is better than cowardice 3.Joy is better than guilt 4.Honour is better than dishonour 5.Freedom is better than slavery 6.Kinship is better than alienation 7.Realism is better than dogmatism 8.Vigor is better than lifelessness 9.Ancestry is better than universalism Its obvious why these ways have been gotten rid of and made to seem disgusting. Its because there would no longer be corrupt politicians who are given second chances or exploited countries. People want to protect the nasty evil on earth still! You mean the Norse religion as established by John Yeowell in the 1970s? Yeah well it still has many common themes with the older Norse ways such as Asatru. And if people lived by them they would not be able to do half the destructive things they do and get away with it and do it over and over. This is why its the most oppressed religion there is. We are taught to ridicule and look down upon it growing up not to take it seriously at all! Its all for a reason. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62296274 United States 02/03/2015 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "as followers see the stories as metaphors for life not worship of the gods" The caption on the article contradicts your title. In other words, read things before you post them. There is no connection to the gods here whatsoever, and there is no belief in the gods here. Move along. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49469499 Sweden 02/03/2015 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If we lived by the 9 Noble Virtues that exist in the Norse religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 755245 1.Courage 2.Truth 3.Honour 4.Fidelity 5.Discipline 6.Hospitality 7.Self Reliance 8.Industriousness 9.Perseverance Asatru 1.Strength is better than weakness 2.Courage is better than cowardice 3.Joy is better than guilt 4.Honour is better than dishonour 5.Freedom is better than slavery 6.Kinship is better than alienation 7.Realism is better than dogmatism 8.Vigor is better than lifelessness 9.Ancestry is better than universalism Its obvious why these ways have been gotten rid of and made to seem disgusting. Its because there would no longer be corrupt politicians who are given second chances or exploited countries. People want to protect the nasty evil on earth still! You mean the Norse religion as established by John Yeowell in the 1970s? Yeah well it still has many common themes with the older Norse ways such as Asatru. And if people lived by them they would not be able to do half the destructive things they do and get away with it and do it over and over. This is why its the most oppressed religion there is. We are taught to ridicule and look down upon it growing up not to take it seriously at all! Its all for a reason. How is it oppressed? It's not even a religion, it's a sub-culture. We really don't now how the Norse religion was practised even if we can compare it to other proto Indo-European religions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5251328 Canada 02/03/2015 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We reached another spiritual peak like in the days of old. The New Dark Age is apon us and all manner of evil spirits come crawling back with it. The Sun will lay dormant and short summers will follow. This directly ties into the resurgence of a mini ice age. rinse wash repeat. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 755245 United Kingdom 02/03/2015 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If we lived by the 9 Noble Virtues that exist in the Norse religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 755245 1.Courage 2.Truth 3.Honour 4.Fidelity 5.Discipline 6.Hospitality 7.Self Reliance 8.Industriousness 9.Perseverance Asatru 1.Strength is better than weakness 2.Courage is better than cowardice 3.Joy is better than guilt 4.Honour is better than dishonour 5.Freedom is better than slavery 6.Kinship is better than alienation 7.Realism is better than dogmatism 8.Vigor is better than lifelessness 9.Ancestry is better than universalism Its obvious why these ways have been gotten rid of and made to seem disgusting. Its because there would no longer be corrupt politicians who are given second chances or exploited countries. People want to protect the nasty evil on earth still! You mean the Norse religion as established by John Yeowell in the 1970s? Yeah well it still has many common themes with the older Norse ways such as Asatru. And if people lived by them they would not be able to do half the destructive things they do and get away with it and do it over and over. This is why its the most oppressed religion there is. We are taught to ridicule and look down upon it growing up not to take it seriously at all! Its all for a reason. How is it oppressed? It's not even a religion, it's a sub-culture. We really don't now how the Norse religion was practised even if we can compare it to other proto Indo-European religions. Its totally oppressed by larger religions that took over. May not know everything in exact detail but there is lots of resources out there to know. Isn't it a bit odd to live in a country and never to be taught the original religion of the country? You think that's normal? Its either Christianity or Atheism here. Now it is a subculture yes but it wasn't in times gone by. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60702613 United States 02/03/2015 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: WOLF* No, that's just your egoic mind being 'offended' and feeling insecure that other people in this Universe do not believe and worship at you do. You 'wake up' honey - this existence does not revolve around your personal, chosen beliefs just because you want it to be so... It could be that some have not read the article. Headline is: A modern version of Norse paganism has been gaining popularity in recent years as followers see the stories as metaphors for life not worship of the gods This is a celebration of their culture, which I fully support. From the article: “I don’t believe anyone believes in a one-eyed man who is riding about on a horse with eight feet,” said Hilmar Örn Hilmarsson, high priest of Ásatrúarfélagið, an association that promotes faith in the Norse gods. “We see the stories as poetic metaphors and a manifestation of the forces of nature and human psychology.” This is respecting the roots of their culture and what motivated them to be who they are then and now. I am a Christian and am not offput nor offended by the building of this temple. They could not have been clearer on what their intentions are. I just don't think people are actually reading the article and are just responding to the thread title. Oh I read the article alright, and I stand by what I said. If you were close to the Lord, you would see the error in all of this. Celebrating ones roots, if the roots are bad, isn't a good thing......spiritually speaking. And, it's not that "i'm" offended, or "you're" not offended, it's about what the ALMIGHTY CREATOR thinks and if HE is offended.........cause that's all that matters! No, I do not accept your thinking that unless I agree that this is a spit in the face of Christ then I am not close to the Lord. I no more find this wrong than I do Native Americans who celebrate their heritage and adhere to "old ways" yet go to church every Sunday. The builders of the temple are very clear on their intent. They are very clear in terms of not worshipping pagan gods. The only thing I agree with in your statement is that what matters is what God thinks. Whatever you think my relationship to the Lord is, whatever you think about how this offends you, does not matter in the least. Ultimately that is between me and God and not me and you. It is also not up to you nor I to determine whether or not their "roots" are bad. That judgment, again, is not up to you. You are certainly free to comment on it, but its value is in the eye of the beholder. The bible is extremely clear on how God feels about paganism. It is EXTREMELY offensive to Him. If it's offensive to HIM, then it should be offensive to HIS children. Enough said on that......you either get what I mean or you don't. Peace. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 755245 United Kingdom 02/03/2015 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The God Odin has parallels with the Christ crucifixion who was hanged on a tree and resurrected a few days later. So those who think they are both a contradiction no they are not. And for the record Norse pagans don't worship Gods.. at all. They do not see it that way at all. They just believe in many co-creators. But they don't pray to them all!!!! Nor ask for favours. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67105399 United States 02/03/2015 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Aspamce It could be that some have not read the article. Headline is: A modern version of Norse paganism has been gaining popularity in recent years as followers see the stories as metaphors for life not worship of the gods This is a celebration of their culture, which I fully support. From the article: “I don’t believe anyone believes in a one-eyed man who is riding about on a horse with eight feet,” said Hilmar Örn Hilmarsson, high priest of Ásatrúarfélagið, an association that promotes faith in the Norse gods. “We see the stories as poetic metaphors and a manifestation of the forces of nature and human psychology.” This is respecting the roots of their culture and what motivated them to be who they are then and now. I am a Christian and am not offput nor offended by the building of this temple. They could not have been clearer on what their intentions are. I just don't think people are actually reading the article and are just responding to the thread title. Oh I read the article alright, and I stand by what I said. If you were close to the Lord, you would see the error in all of this. Celebrating ones roots, if the roots are bad, isn't a good thing......spiritually speaking. And, it's not that "i'm" offended, or "you're" not offended, it's about what the ALMIGHTY CREATOR thinks and if HE is offended.........cause that's all that matters! No, I do not accept your thinking that unless I agree that this is a spit in the face of Christ then I am not close to the Lord. I no more find this wrong than I do Native Americans who celebrate their heritage and adhere to "old ways" yet go to church every Sunday. The builders of the temple are very clear on their intent. They are very clear in terms of not worshipping pagan gods. The only thing I agree with in your statement is that what matters is what God thinks. Whatever you think my relationship to the Lord is, whatever you think about how this offends you, does not matter in the least. Ultimately that is between me and God and not me and you. It is also not up to you nor I to determine whether or not their "roots" are bad. That judgment, again, is not up to you. You are certainly free to comment on it, but its value is in the eye of the beholder. The bible is extremely clear on how God feels about paganism. It is EXTREMELY offensive to Him. If it's offensive to HIM, then it should be offensive to HIS children. Enough said on that......you either get what I mean or you don't. Peace. And they were very clear that they are not practicing paganism. They were very specific about it. The Bible is replete with examples of how God views paganism and his righteous anger towards it. Good thing these people are not practicing it, yes? We are all, each and every person on earth, God's children. I have no right to be angry at any of them in His name. When I am, He is the only Being I answer to. As we all will. I now agree with you twice. Peace. |
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User ID: 53936955 Canada 02/03/2015 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doesn't' surprise me that most here spit in the face of Jesus when congratulating paganism. Quoting: daughteroftheking Doesn't surprise me at all because, although "awake" to conspiracy theories, you're still all typical of the world's mindset that the one true God does in fact exist and He is worthy or ALL praise and worship and any other form of praise and worship is evil to the core and in fact a form of satanism. You all are still "asleep" in that sense along with the majority of the world. That is why Jesus Himself said the road to eternal life was narrow and few will find it. His words are always true! No, that's just your egoic mind being 'offended' and feeling insecure that other people in this Universe do not believe and worship at you do. You 'wake up' honey - this existence does not revolve around your personal, chosen beliefs just because you want it to be so... It could be that some have not read the article. Headline is: A modern version of Norse paganism has been gaining popularity in recent years as followers see the stories as metaphors for life not worship of the gods This is a celebration of their culture, which I fully support. From the article: “I don’t believe anyone believes in a one-eyed man who is riding about on a horse with eight feet,” said Hilmar Örn Hilmarsson, high priest of Ásatrúarfélagið, an association that promotes faith in the Norse gods. “We see the stories as poetic metaphors and a manifestation of the forces of nature and human psychology.” This is respecting the roots of their culture and what motivated them to be who they are then and now. I am a Christian and am not offput nor offended by the building of this temple. They could not have been clearer on what their intentions are. I just don't think people are actually reading the article and are just responding to the thread title. Oh I read the article alright, and I stand by what I said. If you were close to the Lord, you would see the error in all of this. Celebrating ones roots, if the roots are bad, isn't a good thing......spiritually speaking. And, it's not that "i'm" offended, or "you're" not offended, it's about what the ALMIGHTY CREATOR thinks and if HE is offended.........cause that's all that matters! Going along with the bolded comment....perhaps then you should not be practicing Christianity, considering their own dark history. Next bolded statement.....if you really knew about the "Almighty" you would not have made that statement. Why, because the Almighty (Prime Source)does not indulge in being offended. Being offended is strictly a human trait. hollyhocks |
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User ID: 64800567 United States 02/03/2015 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nearly 500 years before Christopher Columbus 'sailed the ocean blue', Leif Eriksson arrived on the shores of an area he called 'Vinland' -- the land we know today as North America. This fascinating short film recounts Eriksson's journey, and unearths evidence that the brave, bold and adventurous Viking was the first European to set foot in North America. Untroubled, Scornful, Outrageous-That is how Wisdom wants us to be! White Genocide: 1900AD @ 35% - Today less than 8% of the earth's population Sophia's Correction |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 755245 United Kingdom 02/03/2015 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How disappointing. Our only hope of surviving on this planet is to evolve beyond this need to worship murderous, bloody, evil "gods" not resurrect those we had outgrown already. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67503588 They don't worship them. See how ignorant people get they believe that the monotheistic and pagans are viewing Gods the same. Not at all similar! |
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User ID: 67272900 United States 02/03/2015 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: WOLF* No, that's just your egoic mind being 'offended' and feeling insecure that other people in this Universe do not believe and worship at you do. You 'wake up' honey - this existence does not revolve around your personal, chosen beliefs just because you want it to be so... It could be that some have not read the article. Headline is: A modern version of Norse paganism has been gaining popularity in recent years as followers see the stories as metaphors for life not worship of the gods This is a celebration of their culture, which I fully support. From the article: “I don’t believe anyone believes in a one-eyed man who is riding about on a horse with eight feet,” said Hilmar Örn Hilmarsson, high priest of Ásatrúarfélagið, an association that promotes faith in the Norse gods. “We see the stories as poetic metaphors and a manifestation of the forces of nature and human psychology.” This is respecting the roots of their culture and what motivated them to be who they are then and now. I am a Christian and am not offput nor offended by the building of this temple. They could not have been clearer on what their intentions are. I just don't think people are actually reading the article and are just responding to the thread title. Oh I read the article alright, and I stand by what I said. If you were close to the Lord, you would see the error in all of this. Celebrating ones roots, if the roots are bad, isn't a good thing......spiritually speaking. And, it's not that "i'm" offended, or "you're" not offended, it's about what the ALMIGHTY CREATOR thinks and if HE is offended.........cause that's all that matters! No, I do not accept your thinking that unless I agree that this is a spit in the face of Christ then I am not close to the Lord. I no more find this wrong than I do Native Americans who celebrate their heritage and adhere to "old ways" yet go to church every Sunday. The builders of the temple are very clear on their intent. They are very clear in terms of not worshipping pagan gods. The only thing I agree with in your statement is that what matters is what God thinks. Whatever you think my relationship to the Lord is, whatever you think about how this offends you, does not matter in the least. Ultimately that is between me and God and not me and you. It is also not up to you nor I to determine whether or not their "roots" are bad. That judgment, again, is not up to you. You are certainly free to comment on it, but its value is in the eye of the beholder. The old Germanic and Norse folkways are indeed quite similar to Native American beliefs in many ways. The old north European Germanic and Norse divinities never required worship or sacrifice. They are better thought of in the Jungian sense as kinsmen -- archetypal and spectacular kinsmen -- but kinsmen nonetheless. They are like grandparents or great aunts and uncles we always hear stories about. People say someone is close to a Divinity, the same as he takes after an ancestor. Ancestors -- But larger than life. Indwelling, hereditary memes. And if someone thinks I have "bad roots" and am a bad person for honoring both my Anishinaabe Native AND my Germanic heritage... ... at least I am honoring what is mine, and not lamely trying to "graft" myself onto some semitic desert clan. Sorry, Aspamance, I mean no slight to Christians who honestly follow the teachings of Jesus in word and in deed, and who shed light and compassion upon a troubled world in time of conflict. Last Edited by goodmockingbird on 02/03/2015 03:29 PM I Support Our First Responders |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 755245 United Kingdom 02/03/2015 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Aspamce It could be that some have not read the article. Headline is: A modern version of Norse paganism has been gaining popularity in recent years as followers see the stories as metaphors for life not worship of the gods This is a celebration of their culture, which I fully support. From the article: “I don’t believe anyone believes in a one-eyed man who is riding about on a horse with eight feet,” said Hilmar Örn Hilmarsson, high priest of Ásatrúarfélagið, an association that promotes faith in the Norse gods. “We see the stories as poetic metaphors and a manifestation of the forces of nature and human psychology.” This is respecting the roots of their culture and what motivated them to be who they are then and now. I am a Christian and am not offput nor offended by the building of this temple. They could not have been clearer on what their intentions are. I just don't think people are actually reading the article and are just responding to the thread title. Oh I read the article alright, and I stand by what I said. If you were close to the Lord, you would see the error in all of this. Celebrating ones roots, if the roots are bad, isn't a good thing......spiritually speaking. And, it's not that "i'm" offended, or "you're" not offended, it's about what the ALMIGHTY CREATOR thinks and if HE is offended.........cause that's all that matters! No, I do not accept your thinking that unless I agree that this is a spit in the face of Christ then I am not close to the Lord. I no more find this wrong than I do Native Americans who celebrate their heritage and adhere to "old ways" yet go to church every Sunday. The builders of the temple are very clear on their intent. They are very clear in terms of not worshipping pagan gods. The only thing I agree with in your statement is that what matters is what God thinks. Whatever you think my relationship to the Lord is, whatever you think about how this offends you, does not matter in the least. Ultimately that is between me and God and not me and you. It is also not up to you nor I to determine whether or not their "roots" are bad. That judgment, again, is not up to you. You are certainly free to comment on it, but its value is in the eye of the beholder. The old Germanic and Norse folkways are indeed quite similar to Native American beliefs in many ways. The old north European Germanic and Norse divinities never required worship or sacrifice. They are better thought of in the Jungian sense as kinsmen -- archetypal and spectacular kinsmen -- but kinsmen nonetheless. They are like grandparents or great aunts and uncles we always hear stories about. People say someone is close to a Divinity, the same as he takes after an ancestor. Ancestors -- But larger than life. Indwelling, hereditary memes. And if someone thinks I have "bad roots" and am a bad person for honoring both my Anishinaabe Native AND my Germanic heritage... ... at least I am honoring what is mine, and not lamely trying to "graft" myself onto some semitic desert clan. Sorry, Aspamance, I mean no slight to Christians who honestly follow the teachings of Jesus in word and in deed, and who shed light and compassion upon a troubled world in time of conflict. That's the thing we are given two options Christianity or atheism. Its like a set up really! |
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