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Anonymous Coward User ID: 61868562 United States 02/03/2015 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a black man with limited knowledge on Norse and viking culture other than the exploits and explorations of the various tribes, is say go ahead, there is nothing wrong with having pride and reverence for your culture. Quoting: Bigman88 55306168 But as a Christian, if this culture contradicts the empirically, intrinsically sound rules and desires of the one true, REAL God, Jehovah, then you should shed any part of that culture off, and only have pride on the part of the culture that will not diminish the presence in the mind of people. Have pride in the way your ancestors lived, the clothes, the food, the architecture, the songs, ceremonies, just ways of going about your daily life. But here this, proud Nords. The aspects of this proud culture dealing with any kind of worship or reverence for Gods, or even if you are not directly worshipping these Gods, but only honoring and recognizing the meaning, enigma and lessons the idea of those Gods portray,, as the article states, is still going against the one true God. An above poster said that she is a Christian, but still ascribes to this. Impossible. It is either one or the other. To those who don't believe in the one true God, Jehovah. Get right. Now. As a Christian, I agree that we should not be worshiping these gods as THE God. I've spent a number of years researching the Israelite/European connection. I have some information in some of my books and from articles online which indicate that Odin was a real person and an Israelite. I worry about posting links and getting banned, but if anyone is interested in reading more about this just go to Yahoo and type in Ensign Message Odin and read the first two links that come up. You can read a couple more articles if you type in Hope of Israel Odin. The only problem I have with the last two articles is they confuse the word Jew with Judah as if they mean the same thing. |
Bigman88 User ID: 55306168 United States 02/03/2015 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a black man with limited knowledge on Norse and viking culture other than the exploits and explorations of the various tribes, is say go ahead, there is nothing wrong with having pride and reverence for your culture. Quoting: Bigman88 55306168 But as a Christian, if this culture contradicts the empirically, intrinsically sound rules and desires of the one true, REAL God, Jehovah, then you should shed any part of that culture off, and only have pride on the part of the culture that will not diminish the presence in the mind of people. Have pride in the way your ancestors lived, the clothes, the food, the architecture, the songs, ceremonies, just ways of going about your daily life. But here this, proud Nords. The aspects of this proud culture dealing with any kind of worship or reverence for Gods, or even if you are not directly worshipping these Gods, but only honoring and recognizing the meaning, enigma and lessons the idea of those Gods portray,, as the article states, is still going against the one true God. An above poster said that she is a Christian, but still ascribes to this. Impossible. It is either one or the other. To those who don't believe in the one true God, Jehovah. Get right. Now. And many blacks might gain from the religion as its intolerant of slavery. Really!!!! And believes in hospitality and respect. Although within any groups as you know there are exceptions to the rule but they have their own racist agendas anyway. I think it can be seen as similar to African religions in that it has many archetypes within it. The same way Africans practiced things before the Christians took over and called everyone there a witch. If you are insinuating that we are synonymous with slavery and lack of hospitality and respect, then you are horribly brainwashed, and can learn to not sell each other (which our ancestors did, along with the rest of the world), and practice hospitality and respect (we, in general, are not respectful or hospitable? Get real and stop watching TV...), then you are WRONG. If you meant that we were slaves in the U.S. and were disrespected in an inhospitable environment, and that this religion does not contain that practice or mindset, then |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 755245 United Kingdom 02/03/2015 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a black man with limited knowledge on Norse and viking culture other than the exploits and explorations of the various tribes, is say go ahead, there is nothing wrong with having pride and reverence for your culture. Quoting: Bigman88 55306168 But as a Christian, if this culture contradicts the empirically, intrinsically sound rules and desires of the one true, REAL God, Jehovah, then you should shed any part of that culture off, and only have pride on the part of the culture that will not diminish the presence in the mind of people. Have pride in the way your ancestors lived, the clothes, the food, the architecture, the songs, ceremonies, just ways of going about your daily life. But here this, proud Nords. The aspects of this proud culture dealing with any kind of worship or reverence for Gods, or even if you are not directly worshipping these Gods, but only honoring and recognizing the meaning, enigma and lessons the idea of those Gods portray,, as the article states, is still going against the one true God. An above poster said that she is a Christian, but still ascribes to this. Impossible. It is either one or the other. To those who don't believe in the one true God, Jehovah. Get right. Now. And many blacks might gain from the religion as its intolerant of slavery. Really!!!! And believes in hospitality and respect. Although within any groups as you know there are exceptions to the rule but they have their own racist agendas anyway. I think it can be seen as similar to African religions in that it has many archetypes within it. The same way Africans practiced things before the Christians took over and called everyone there a witch. If you are insinuating that we are synonymous with slavery and lack of hospitality and respect, then you are horribly brainwashed, and can learn to not sell each other (which our ancestors did, along with the rest of the world), and practice hospitality and respect (we, in general, are not respectful or hospitable? Get real and stop watching TV...), then you are WRONG. If you meant that we were slaves in the U.S. and were disrespected in an inhospitable environment, and that this religion does not contain that practice or mindset, then No I am explaining that today with the Norse religion slavery which has effected blacks would not exist. Because that isn't compatible with the religion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 755245 United Kingdom 02/03/2015 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a black man with limited knowledge on Norse and viking culture other than the exploits and explorations of the various tribes, is say go ahead, there is nothing wrong with having pride and reverence for your culture. Quoting: Bigman88 55306168 But as a Christian, if this culture contradicts the empirically, intrinsically sound rules and desires of the one true, REAL God, Jehovah, then you should shed any part of that culture off, and only have pride on the part of the culture that will not diminish the presence in the mind of people. Have pride in the way your ancestors lived, the clothes, the food, the architecture, the songs, ceremonies, just ways of going about your daily life. But here this, proud Nords. The aspects of this proud culture dealing with any kind of worship or reverence for Gods, or even if you are not directly worshipping these Gods, but only honoring and recognizing the meaning, enigma and lessons the idea of those Gods portray,, as the article states, is still going against the one true God. An above poster said that she is a Christian, but still ascribes to this. Impossible. It is either one or the other. To those who don't believe in the one true God, Jehovah. Get right. Now. As a Christian, I agree that we should not be worshiping these gods as THE God. I've spent a number of years researching the Israelite/European connection. I have some information in some of my books and from articles online which indicate that Odin was a real person and an Israelite. I worry about posting links and getting banned, but if anyone is interested in reading more about this just go to Yahoo and type in Ensign Message Odin and read the first two links that come up. You can read a couple more articles if you type in Hope of Israel Odin. The only problem I have with the last two articles is they confuse the word Jew with Judah as if they mean the same thing. Norse religion is not like Judaism at all. But it is able to merge with other belief systems, ie, take on other Gods. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65530734 United States 02/03/2015 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Norse Gods made the Viking great. They sailed and did business from Constantine (Istanbul) to America (Vinland). They settled also where I live in Iceland and have been drinking liquor ever since mostly in public facilities. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56127011 UMMHMMM AND NOW THEY ARE A BUNCH OF PUSSYS |
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User ID: 62063713 United States 02/03/2015 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the people behind building this temple are reading this thread, I'll bet they're like, "Yikes! We just wanted to construct an awesome tourist attraction with a lucrative gift shop." Quoting: OCD Chaos Theorist he he I'm sure you right, this is more an honoring their ancestors thing, than a real Norse lifestyle change. If they could somehow reform Norse into modern way of living, it could catch on. I might even join tha movement, I can't deny my Norse blood in my veins. I think many in the nordic country would love to call themself norse again. We really really need our Norse idendity back. It would do wonders for the people of the north, we are a mess culture and idendity wise at the moment. Islam gaining more and more ground for that reason alone. I would like to have my Norse identity back too; I think I can claim a bit somewhere back in history. Heh I've a bit of all the Caucasian races sprinkled in as well a some native about six generations back. I was excited with the story of the Dutch plan to colonize Mars a few years ago. I was like 'Woohoo, they're going viking again.' I wish I had more time so I could do even less. |
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User ID: 53860996 United States 02/03/2015 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Viking gods rock! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] “If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.” Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace "But ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8 "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7715788 Canada 02/03/2015 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He hung on the windswept world tree Whose roots no one knows For nine whole days, he hung there Pierced by Gugnir, his spear Swimming in pain, he peered into the depths And cried out in agony Reaching out, he grasped the runes Before falling back from the abyss He gave himself unto himself In a world of sheering pain So that we all may live our lives By the wisdom that he gained You doubted him and spread their lies Across the world with sword in hand You raped our souls and stole our right All for the words of mild-mannered man You listened to mild-mannered god And put your faith in deceitful words Your power trip was paid by blood In kindness' name, you spilled our blood I refuse to submit To the god you say is kind I know what's right and it is time It's time to fight and free our minds Let me die without fear As I have lived without it So shut your mouth and spare my ears I'm fed up with all your bullshit After a thousand years of oppression Let the berserks rise again Let the world hear these words once more "Save us, oh Lord from the wrath of the Norseman" Our spirits were forged in snow and ice To bend like steel forged over fire We were not made to bend like reed Or turn the other cheek He grasped the runes, they're ours to use |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 777204 United States 02/03/2015 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If they are going to go back hard-core to their roots, they should just go ahead and sacrifice animals. Fuck the lambs. If PETA intervenes----well, let them taste Norse steel. Maybe a good beheading with a double-0headed axe and one's head in a pike for the locals to stare at for about three decades or so. Yes indeed. All hail. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67665353 Canada 02/03/2015 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I found this about when Odin was born ... so is it true ? To understand the answer to this question, it is important to outline the events that led up to the birth of Odin. Although the story is far, far longer than written here, these are the basic facts... Odin (Otherwise known variously as Woden, Oden, Wodan, Wotan, Allfather Lifthrasir, and Valfather, among other things) was born in the time before time, in the place between places; a region of space called Ginnunga Gap. This place lay north of Muspels-heim (Home of elemental fire) and south of Nifl-heim, the home of elemental mist & darkness and to Hvergelmir, the seething cauldron that continually supplied the twelve rivers of Elivagar which constantly flowed into Ginnunga Gap. In the depths of Ginnunga Gap the rivers of Elivagar froze and broke off into enormas ice blocks. Among these blocks was created (By the unseen / unknown) Ymir or Orgelmir (meaning "Seething Clay"), the first Frost Giant or Hrim-thurs, who proceeded off to find something to eat. While wandering the chasm, Ymir happened across a giant cow, Audhumla (meaning milk giver) and noticed that from her udder there continually poured four great streams of milk. Having drank his fill, Ymir went about his business (creating his race). Audhumla, however was now hungry and began to lick the salt from one of the nearby ice blocks. After much licking, Audhumla had inadvertantly freed the god Buri (The producer) from imprisonment within the block. Buri immediately "produced" a son, Borr (Born) and as soon as Ymir and his progeny became aware of the two gods they began to wage war on them. The Aesir (gods), representing all that was good could not have hoped to live in peace with the Hrim-thurs, who represented all that was evil or malignant. The struggle continued for ages until Borr married the giantess, Bestla (Daughter to Bolthorn or "Thorn of evil"). Of this union were born three sons; Odin, Vili and Ve (meaning "Spirit", "Will" and "Holy" respectively). The three brothers were later to be the slayers of the great Ymir, whos blood created a deluge in which all his race, except for Bergelmir were drowned. Bergelmir thence went on to repopulate his race, having escaped in a boat to the world. There is no mention in the Eddas of a date, and for good reason; the world had not yet been created and time was meaningless and immeasurable. The briefest translations of the Eddas & Sagas makes all these events sound very close together on a timescale, when in actual fact they may have happened thousands of years apart. When studying Norse mythology it is not so important to take note of when or exactly how things happened, but rather to take lessons from the outcomes of events. The whole theology was based around moral implications; fables if you like. The gods were imperfect and as such were fated to one day be destroyed. This day came and was called Ragnarok. The men who worshipped Odin and his compatriots centred their lives on pleasing their gods in order to garner favour. To do this they lead honourable lives, and strode fearlessly toward honourable deaths. This was the example set by the gods, and men were rewarded for following it with admission into Valhalla upon their deaths. |
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Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 65052277 United States 02/03/2015 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many years ago in high school, I took American Government class in summer school to graduate early. We had an exchange teacher from Iceland - 22 years old, 6ft 4in, long blonde hair and blue eyes, named Thor. Not a single girl missed a day of class. Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo And I'll bet that NONE of them reflected upon the irony of a class in American Government being taught by a teacher from Iceland! "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49531429 United States 02/03/2015 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many years ago in high school, I took American Government class in summer school to graduate early. We had an exchange teacher from Iceland - 22 years old, 6ft 4in, long blonde hair and blue eyes, named Thor. Not a single girl missed a day of class. Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo And I'll bet that NONE of them reflected upon the irony of a class in American Government being taught by a teacher from Iceland! Was going to make the same comment earlier... |
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User ID: 53860996 United States 02/03/2015 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many years ago in high school, I took American Government class in summer school to graduate early. We had an exchange teacher from Iceland - 22 years old, 6ft 4in, long blonde hair and blue eyes, named Thor. Not a single girl missed a day of class. Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo And I'll bet that NONE of them reflected upon the irony of a class in American Government being taught by a teacher from Iceland! Oh, no, this was the 70s, we were very much aware He was WAY cool - knew the American political system better than any US citizen. He also let us debate and discuss taboo subjects like abortion. First time I ever saw the Anarchist's Cookbook was in his class. “If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.” Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace "But ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8 "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67665353 Canada 02/03/2015 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOW! Vikings was sooo badasses! I wanna be a viking too when I grow up! Pffft... You are all a bunch of delusional idiots who thinks that real life is an action movie. Grow up losers (or die trying) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67644360 they used to wear necklaces made of brazilian skulls around their necks |
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