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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72792471 United States 08/15/2016 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fingerprint-based credit cards have long been part of the “future” discussion of financial payments. But is that future right now? [link to www.thestreet.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70976145 United States 08/18/2016 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The number 666 has a much different number to a muslim than it does to a christian. A christian believes it represents someone that is evil Not so muslims. They think it's a holy number: [link to heavenawaits.wordpress.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72832359 United States 08/21/2016 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The number 666 has a much different number to a muslim than it does to a christian. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70976145 A christian believes it represents someone that is evil Not so muslims. They think it's a holy number: [link to heavenawaits.wordpress.com (secure)] Walid Shoebat believes in this video he knows what the number 666 represents: youtube.com/watch?v=Rs_09o5j_pY |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72838363 United States 08/22/2016 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The number 666 has a much different number to a muslim than it does to a christian. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70976145 A christian believes it represents someone that is evil Not so muslims. They think it's a holy number: [link to heavenawaits.wordpress.com (secure)] Walid Shoebat believes in this video he knows what the number 666 represents: youtube.com/watch?v=Rs_09o5j_pY Of course, there are many who disagree with Walid: The Number of the Beast, and a Response to Walid Shoebat New Testament scholar Daniel Wallace provides a brief note on the possibility of the number of the beast being 616, not 666, here. [link to www.alankurschner.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72850511 United States 08/24/2016 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just as there are many perspectives on Mystery Babylon - there are with the Mark of the Beast. One of these is from the Preterists: The mark of the beast is not to be taken as a physical mark (tatoos, barcode labels, writings..etc). David Chilton, before he died, calculated Nero's name to be 666: See image at link: In my opinion, it is very likely that this is correct, especially since Revelation says that it is a man's number and it can be figured out. If someone comes up with a better explanation, I would definitely consider it. [link to www.christianforums.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72857114 United States 08/25/2016 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just as there are many perspectives on Mystery Babylon - there are with the Mark of the Beast. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72850511 One of these is from the Preterists: The mark of the beast is not to be taken as a physical mark (tatoos, barcode labels, writings..etc). David Chilton, before he died, calculated Nero's name to be 666: See image at link: In my opinion, it is very likely that this is correct, especially since Revelation says that it is a man's number and it can be figured out. If someone comes up with a better explanation, I would definitely consider it. [link to www.christianforums.com] And here's an opposing view: Excerpt: In order to make 70 AD the magic year, we would have to delete dozens of prophecies that were never fulfilled. When was the Gospel preached to all the nations? When was the Mark of the Beast implemented? What about China's 200-million-man army? When did 100-pound hailstones fall from the sky? And what date was it when the Euphrates River dried up? The questions are endless. Why did we have the rebirth of Israel? If Jerusalem was forever removed from being the burdensome stone, why has it now returned to that status? When did all the Jews shout, "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord," as Jesus said they would? After being so strict in their interpretation of Matthew 24:34, preterists then run roughshod over many clear statements of Scripture. They say that although the "resurrection" happened in 70 AD, the bodies of Christians were left in the grave.... [link to www.raptureready.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72875857 United States 08/28/2016 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I want to go over the verses again regarding the mark of the beast. It's actually more complicated than I have portrayed. Here are the verses again: Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. --- Is what we are seeing in these 3 verses - options? Is the mark really the number 666? Maybe not.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72881978 United States 08/29/2016 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I want to go over the verses again regarding the mark of the beast. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72875857 It's actually more complicated than I have portrayed. Here are the verses again: Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. --- Is what we are seeing in these 3 verses - options? Is the mark really the number 666? Maybe not.... Sandwiched between 2 easy verses to interpret is one that is essentially a conundrum. We're told it's a mark OR a name OR a number. We have verses that warn - if you take the mark, you will lose your salvation. But what about the name or number? Is that still true? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72888364 United States 08/30/2016 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting article on 666: Excerpt Speculation makes for interesting imaginations and conversation, but among the many questions you might ask about 666 and the mark of the Beast–there is one very important thing you must ask yourself: When that time comes, what will I do when I’m faced with the mark of the Beast? Let’s notice what the passage actually says in Revelation 13:16-18, “He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666”. Can you imagine that society? You can identify that government, the government that inflicts the mark of the Beast in several ways. In a time, that may not be that distant in the future, there will be no difference between the small and the great, the rich and poor, free and slave. The similarity–none of them–not one will be able to buy or sell anything. Now, stop there for just a moment. Imagine this. That means, without the mark, you won’t be able to buy groceries or go to any superstore. You won’t be able to purchase the latest cell phone, or a retailer can’t sell you a pair of jeans. When it comes to that point, you can’t even buy a soda or even a pack of gum.... [link to www.ucg.org (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72901050 United States 09/01/2016 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I want to go over the verses again regarding the mark of the beast. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72875857 It's actually more complicated than I have portrayed. Here are the verses again: Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. --- Is what we are seeing in these 3 verses - options? Is the mark really the number 666? Maybe not.... Sandwiched between 2 easy verses to interpret is one that is essentially a conundrum. We're told it's a mark OR a name OR a number. We have verses that warn - if you take the mark, you will lose your salvation. But what about the name or number? Is that still true? I firmly believe Jesus and God never said anything in the bible that doesn't have relevance. IMHO, judging from the verse ..... the mark is not a number or a name - if you take the verse literally. 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Each of these options may have significance as to a person's status. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72913576 United States 09/03/2016 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I want to go over the verses again regarding the mark of the beast. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72875857 It's actually more complicated than I have portrayed. Here are the verses again: Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. --- Is what we are seeing in these 3 verses - options? Is the mark really the number 666? Maybe not.... Sandwiched between 2 easy verses to interpret is one that is essentially a conundrum. We're told it's a mark OR a name OR a number. We have verses that warn - if you take the mark, you will lose your salvation. But what about the name or number? Is that still true? I firmly believe Jesus and God never said anything in the bible that doesn't have relevance. IMHO, judging from the verse ..... the mark is not a number or a name - if you take the verse literally. 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Each of these options may have significance as to a person's status. It would stand to reason 'serfs' would not have the same privilege as 'The Great'. Nor would the poor be able to afford what a rich person could. One might only be able to attain 'a particular mark' if one could 'buy' it. This is something that happens in a very corrupt society. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49472165 United States 09/05/2016 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I want to go over the verses again regarding the mark of the beast. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72875857 It's actually more complicated than I have portrayed. Here are the verses again: Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. --- Is what we are seeing in these 3 verses - options? Is the mark really the number 666? Maybe not.... Sandwiched between 2 easy verses to interpret is one that is essentially a conundrum. We're told it's a mark OR a name OR a number. We have verses that warn - if you take the mark, you will lose your salvation. But what about the name or number? Is that still true? I firmly believe Jesus and God never said anything in the bible that doesn't have relevance. IMHO, judging from the verse ..... the mark is not a number or a name - if you take the verse literally. 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Each of these options may have significance as to a person's status. It would stand to reason 'serfs' would not have the same privilege as 'The Great'. Nor would the poor be able to afford what a rich person could. One might only be able to attain 'a particular mark' if one could 'buy' it. This is something that happens in a very corrupt society. What circumstances would usher in the mark of the beast? One needs look no further than Venezuela. With a total economic and societal collapse - Venezuelan's are required to be fingerprinted before purchasing food. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 51467627 United States 09/07/2016 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72881978 Sandwiched between 2 easy verses to interpret is one that is essentially a conundrum. We're told it's a mark OR a name OR a number. We have verses that warn - if you take the mark, you will lose your salvation. But what about the name or number? Is that still true? I firmly believe Jesus and God never said anything in the bible that doesn't have relevance. IMHO, judging from the verse ..... the mark is not a number or a name - if you take the verse literally. 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Each of these options may have significance as to a person's status. It would stand to reason 'serfs' would not have the same privilege as 'The Great'. Nor would the poor be able to afford what a rich person could. One might only be able to attain 'a particular mark' if one could 'buy' it. This is something that happens in a very corrupt society. What circumstances would usher in the mark of the beast? One needs look no further than Venezuela. With a total economic and societal collapse - Venezuelan's are required to be fingerprinted before purchasing food. Revelation 18 speaks of Mystery Babylon's destruction. When that happens - There appears to be a worldwide economic collapse. There are signs we are headed in that direction. From Beforeitsnews: “No Way to Avoid Economic Collapse” According to Recent Government Study... We're getting these kinds of headlines from billionaires & large banks. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71071226 United States 09/08/2016 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] The fallout from last week's historic bankruptcy of one of the world's biggest shipping lines, Hanjin Shipping, continued with little resolution with as much as $14 billion worth of cargo stranded at sea according to the WSJ, sending cargo owners scurrying to try to recover their goods and get them to customers. Since Hanjin's bankruptcy protection filing, dozens of ships carrying more than half a million cargo containers have been denied access to ports around the world because of uncertainty about who would pay docking fees, container-storage and unloading bills. Some of those ships have been seized by the company’s creditors. About 70 container movers and 15 bulk ships are stranded at 50 ports in 26 countries, according to Hanjin... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72955534 United States 09/10/2016 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72901050 I firmly believe Jesus and God never said anything in the bible that doesn't have relevance. IMHO, judging from the verse ..... the mark is not a number or a name - if you take the verse literally. 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Each of these options may have significance as to a person's status. It would stand to reason 'serfs' would not have the same privilege as 'The Great'. Nor would the poor be able to afford what a rich person could. One might only be able to attain 'a particular mark' if one could 'buy' it. This is something that happens in a very corrupt society. What circumstances would usher in the mark of the beast? One needs look no further than Venezuela. With a total economic and societal collapse - Venezuelan's are required to be fingerprinted before purchasing food. Revelation 18 speaks of Mystery Babylon's destruction. When that happens - There appears to be a worldwide economic collapse. There are signs we are headed in that direction. From Beforeitsnews: “No Way to Avoid Economic Collapse” According to Recent Government Study... We're getting these kinds of headlines from billionaires & large banks. Obviously, people can buy and sell as long as they have a mark; meaning there will be products to purchase. The question is - who will run the companies who produce merchandise? Will it be owned by individuals or "the state?" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72388552 United States 09/13/2016 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I want to go over the verses again regarding the mark of the beast. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72875857 It's actually more complicated than I have portrayed. Here are the verses again: Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. --- Is what we are seeing in these 3 verses - options? Is the mark really the number 666? Maybe not.... Sandwiched between 2 easy verses to interpret is one that is essentially a conundrum. We're told it's a mark OR a name OR a number. We have verses that warn - if you take the mark, you will lose your salvation. But what about the name or number? Is that still true? I firmly believe Jesus and God never said anything in the bible that doesn't have relevance. IMHO, judging from the verse ..... the mark is not a number or a name - if you take the verse literally. 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Each of these options may have significance as to a person's status. It would stand to reason 'serfs' would not have the same privilege as 'The Great'. Nor would the poor be able to afford what a rich person could. One might only be able to attain 'a particular mark' if one could 'buy' it. This is something that happens in a very corrupt society. I would like to look at the phrase - here is wisdom, let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast in Rev 13:18 This reminds me of the phrase in Mathew 24:15 ...whoso readeth, let him understand It appears we had to attain a certain level of knowledge to understand the meaning of this verse: 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) To paraphrase-When you SEE the antichrist stand in the holy place...from a field or rooftop; flee... Thread: Prophecies Jesus gave in Mathew 24 and Revevelation require internet and smartphone |
Deplorable Anonymous Coward User ID: 72995033 United States 09/15/2016 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72881978 Sandwiched between 2 easy verses to interpret is one that is essentially a conundrum. We're told it's a mark OR a name OR a number. We have verses that warn - if you take the mark, you will lose your salvation. But what about the name or number? Is that still true? I firmly believe Jesus and God never said anything in the bible that doesn't have relevance. IMHO, judging from the verse ..... the mark is not a number or a name - if you take the verse literally. 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Each of these options may have significance as to a person's status. It would stand to reason 'serfs' would not have the same privilege as 'The Great'. Nor would the poor be able to afford what a rich person could. One might only be able to attain 'a particular mark' if one could 'buy' it. This is something that happens in a very corrupt society. I would like to look at the phrase - here is wisdom, let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast in Rev 13:18 This reminds me of the phrase in Mathew 24:15 ...whoso readeth, let him understand It appears we had to attain a certain level of knowledge to understand the meaning of this verse: 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) To paraphrase-When you SEE the antichrist stand in the holy place...from a field or rooftop; flee... Thread: Prophecies Jesus gave in Mathew 24 and Revevelation require internet and smartphone Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Here is wisdom This seems pretty straightforward - the number of the beast is 666. But IMO - why preface it with "here is wisdom"?..... |
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