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Lot's of Godtards in here.

Biblebashers...

I love it.

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The new song is the Testimony.
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Rev 14:3.....no man could learn that song

The question here is - why can't we learn the song?

Is it because we can't hear it or it's a language the angels teach them - that is not spoken on earth?

Will we recognize the 144,000 by this song that we can't learn?

Why are they given a song we can't learn?

Interesting....
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"Not by might,nor by power,but by my spirit" (Zachariah4:6)

"The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” Let the one who hears say, “Come!” And let the one who is thirsty come, and the one who desires the water of life drink freely." (Revelation 22:17)

The 144,000 is a remnant of the bride.They will be the temples of the Lord who's spirit will draw people in.
Remember that the Holy Spirit comes in the name of Jesus?

I've never needed the full testimony to be saved.
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The remnant (144,000) are here during the great tribulation:

Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

Zephaniah 3:13

The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none shall make them afraid.
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Matt 24 "end" is end of ancient Israel. Which is a done deal.
Ezekiel 38-39 is soon to come. Israel has never been invaded with an OUTCOME like that revealed in Ezekiel 38-39.
Revelation 13->forward is yet to come.
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Matt 24 "end" is end of ancient Israel. Which is a done deal.
Ezekiel 38-39 is soon to come. Israel has never been invaded with an OUTCOME like that revealed in Ezekiel 38-39.
Revelation 13->forward is yet to come.
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Mathew 24

When have we seen the antichrist stand in the temple and declare he is god? Never.

Jesus said after this happens - there will be a great tribulation.

When has the great tribulation taken place? Not yet.

Soon though.
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Matt 24 "end" is end of ancient Israel. Which is a done deal.
Ezekiel 38-39 is soon to come. Israel has never been invaded with an OUTCOME like that revealed in Ezekiel 38-39.
Revelation 13->forward is yet to come.
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Mathew 24

When have we seen the antichrist stand in the temple and declare he is god? Never.

Jesus said after this happens - there will be a great tribulation.

When has the great tribulation taken place? Not yet.

Soon though.
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I think I need to add some clarification to my post above.

In Mathew 24 - the disciples are asking Jesus when would the end of the world be? Jesus answers and said - when we HEAR of wars and rumours of wars - that's not the end.

But when we SEE and KNOW (Luke 21) - that's the end?

Mathew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

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So you see his entire discourse is about the end of the world - not ancient Israel.
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Everything Jesus predicted in Matt 24 has come to pass.
The temple was destroyed and ancient Israel was dispersed.
The "end of the world" OF ANCIENT ISRAEL came to pass.

Jesus did NOT promise that we 2000 years later would "see" all that occured at that time.

The "we didn't see it happen so it didn't happen" idea is absurd.

Revelation 13->forward is THE revealing of OUR end of era scenario.

One will heed Revelation 13->forward and end up thankful
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one will sincerely regret not heeding it.
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Everything Jesus predicted in Matt 24 has come to pass.
The temple was destroyed and ancient Israel was dispersed.
The "end of the world" OF ANCIENT ISRAEL came to pass.

Jesus did NOT promise that we 2000 years later would "see" all that occured at that time.

The "we didn't see it happen so it didn't happen" idea is absurd.

Revelation 13->forward is THE revealing of OUR end of era scenario.

One will heed Revelation 13->forward and end up thankful
or
one will sincerely regret not heeding it.
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Not absurd at all; here's why:

Luke 21 in looking at the trees said:

Luke 21:30 When they now shoot forth, ye SEE and KNOW of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.

31 So likewise ye, when ye SEE these things come to pass....

Mathew 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall SEE All these things....

So what things are they talking about?

Well, earthquakes, famines, wars, disease in diverse places.

How does one know they are in diverse places? Internet perhaps....

Ancients didn't know about earthquakes - other than the ones in their own region.

Also - to paraphrase Jesus in Mathew 24 - When you SEE the evil one stand in the holy place - flee..

If you are on a roof, or in a field and you SEE him - flee.

How are you going to see the 'evil one' in the holy place from a field without a mobile device?

2 thes 2 says - the 'evil one' will sit in the temple and declare he is god. No one has ever been in the temple and declared they personally are god. Sure they might have set up idols - but not their self....
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Here's someone else's take on it:

People for 2000 years have been incorrectly saying Jesus would return.

Up til now - it couldn't have happened because the technology didn't exist.

You couldn't see something happening on the other side of the world - this passage below (KJV) makes no sense to anyone living in Jesus time.

Only we today can understand the technology it takes for this to happen:

Rev 13:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall SEE their dead bodies three and an half days lie in the street.

This says other people from other nations will SEE their dead bodies in the street.

The tech didn't exist for people to be in a FIELD or someone on a ROOF and both simultaneously seeing something they should act on i.e. the antichrist STANDING in the temple.

Math 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

Well, the technology now exists for the rest of these prophecies to come true.
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Here is a commentary that believes the 144,000 in rev 7 and 14 are the same group:

Are the 144,000 of Revelation 7 the same as the 144,000 portrayed in Revelation 14?

I believe they are. Why would the book introduce us to a totally different group of 144,000 people without telling us so?

[link to christinprophecy.org]
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Another point of contention is Mt Sion.

The debate is whether Mt Sion is in heaven or Jerusalem:

The Lamb On Mount Zion - Rev. Herman Hoeksema


A Symbol Of Power And Authority

If this is clear, it will not be difficult to understand the meaning of this entire picture in detail.

But different it is with regard to Mt. Sion. Interpreters differ widely when they come to explain this figure.

As we have already mentioned, there are some who take it in the literal sense of the word, not as a symbol but as the literal Mt. Sion in Jerusalem, and then explain that Christ during the days of Antichrist shall stand on that mount.

But the symbolic nature of the entire passage, as we have already observed, is against this interpretation. It will not do to separate one element from all the rest and to explain it in the literal sense of the word. There are others who maintain that Sion is heavenly Jerusalem.

But this is impossible because of the context. We read that as the Lamb stands with His people on Mt. Sion, a voice is heard from heaven, clearly indicating that Mt. Sion is on earth. Still others claim that Mt. Sion is the symbol of the church invisible on earth. And this is perfectly allowable as such, for Mt. Sion appears in Scripture as the church of Christ.

Only the contents of this passage are all against this interpretation. If Mt. Sion is the church, what then must we make of the one hundred forty-four thousand? They are evidently the church of the living God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

But if they are, then Mt. Sion cannot mean the same thing. And therefore, we feel compelled to discard all these interpretations and to look for something else....

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IMO the next few verses give the impression that Mt Sion is in heaven:

Rev 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

----

It appears the 144,000 were being taught a song by a group that was before the throne of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44890912


In these first few verses we have:

The 144,000 were redeemed from the earth; redeemed from men and were the first fruits unto God and the lamb.

Does this mean they were raptured?

I don't think so.

The definition of rapture as I understand it is - you go to heaven and never return.



From the looks of it - the 144,000 go to heaven - receive the holy gospel, and return to earth to preach it.

This is not unheard of

We have Paul's experience:


2 Corinthians 12:2 (KJV)
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67771608


We aren't given too much information on the 144,000 in Rev 14 & 7, however there a some who have extrapolated from other verses in the old testament and new testament more characteristics.

Here is an interpretation that does just that:

[link to www.tedloywritings.com]
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WITHOUT modern technology,
The temple was destroyed and ancient Israel was dispersed.
The "end of the world" OF ANCIENT ISRAEL came to pass.


Believe it or not.

Matt 24 and Rev 13->forward are about TWO distinctly different "end times"


Revelation 13->forward is THE revealing of OUR end of era scenario.

One will heed Revelation 13->forward and end up thankful
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one will sincerely regret not heeding it.
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WITHOUT modern technology,
The temple was destroyed and ancient Israel was dispersed.
The "end of the world" OF ANCIENT ISRAEL came to pass.


Believe it or not.

Matt 24 and Rev 13->forward are about TWO distinctly different "end times"


Revelation 13->forward is THE revealing of OUR end of era scenario.

One will heed Revelation 13->forward and end up thankful
or
one will sincerely regret not heeding it.
 Quoting: JWP


Notice the beginning of Daniel 12 is talking about the great tribulation. We get some background in the following verses what happens next. Then we're told about the very end of the world.....

Daniel is told he shall die - and stand to face God's judgment - at the end of days.

Also notice he's told his judgment will happen 1335 days after the destruction of the temple, and sacrifices stopped.

We know it's days - because Both Daniel and Revelation tell us the whole period of the great tribulation is 3 1/2 years:

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Mathew 24:15

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

----

From commentary - Error of Preterism we get this about Mathew 24:

To Preterists Matthew 24 and the book of Revelation are all fulfilled. The destruction of Jerusalem was the Great Tribulation along with the persecution of believers. (Makes one wonder how they justify Matthew 24:21 which states that the period after the "antichrist" signs a seven-year peace treaty with Israel will be the worst time in all of history? Many scenarios since 70 AD have been far worse than the destruction of 70 AD, including World War II.

Also - We've never had this happen yet:

Mathew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Notice in red - it's immediately after the great tribulation, not 2000 yrs or so.
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Another point of contention is Mt Sion.

The debate is whether Mt Sion is in heaven or Jerusalem:

The Lamb On Mount Zion - Rev. Herman Hoeksema


A Symbol Of Power And Authority

If this is clear, it will not be difficult to understand the meaning of this entire picture in detail.

But different it is with regard to Mt. Sion. Interpreters differ widely when they come to explain this figure.

As we have already mentioned, there are some who take it in the literal sense of the word, not as a symbol but as the literal Mt. Sion in Jerusalem, and then explain that Christ during the days of Antichrist shall stand on that mount.

But the symbolic nature of the entire passage, as we have already observed, is against this interpretation. It will not do to separate one element from all the rest and to explain it in the literal sense of the word. There are others who maintain that Sion is heavenly Jerusalem.

But this is impossible because of the context. We read that as the Lamb stands with His people on Mt. Sion, a voice is heard from heaven, clearly indicating that Mt. Sion is on earth. Still others claim that Mt. Sion is the symbol of the church invisible on earth. And this is perfectly allowable as such, for Mt. Sion appears in Scripture as the church of Christ.

Only the contents of this passage are all against this interpretation. If Mt. Sion is the church, what then must we make of the one hundred forty-four thousand? They are evidently the church of the living God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

But if they are, then Mt. Sion cannot mean the same thing. And therefore, we feel compelled to discard all these interpretations and to look for something else....

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73083785


IMO the next few verses give the impression that Mt Sion is in heaven:

Rev 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

----

It appears the 144,000 were being taught a song by a group that was before the throne of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44890912


In these first few verses we have:

The 144,000 were redeemed from the earth; redeemed from men and were the first fruits unto God and the lamb.

Does this mean they were raptured?

I don't think so.

The definition of rapture as I understand it is - you go to heaven and never return.



From the looks of it - the 144,000 go to heaven - receive the holy gospel, and return to earth to preach it.

This is not unheard of

We have Paul's experience:


2 Corinthians 12:2 (KJV)
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67771608


We aren't given too much information on the 144,000 in Rev 14 & 7, however there a some who have extrapolated from other verses in the old testament and new testament more characteristics.

Here is an interpretation that does just that:

[link to www.tedloywritings.com]
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Rev 14:4 tells us these are men who have not been defiled by women..

Verses in Corrinthians & Hebrews pretty much explain what this means
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IMO the next few verses give the impression that Mt Sion is in heaven:

Rev 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

----

It appears the 144,000 were being taught a song by a group that was before the throne of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44890912


In these first few verses we have:

The 144,000 were redeemed from the earth; redeemed from men and were the first fruits unto God and the lamb.

Does this mean they were raptured?

I don't think so.

The definition of rapture as I understand it is - you go to heaven and never return.



From the looks of it - the 144,000 go to heaven - receive the holy gospel, and return to earth to preach it.

This is not unheard of

We have Paul's experience:


2 Corinthians 12:2 (KJV)
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67771608


We aren't given too much information on the 144,000 in Rev 14 & 7, however there a some who have extrapolated from other verses in the old testament and new testament more characteristics.

Here is an interpretation that does just that:

[link to www.tedloywritings.com]
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Rev 14:4 tells us these are men who have not been defiled by women..

Verses in Corinthians & Hebrews pretty much explain what this means
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73153109


Question: "What does the Bible say about sex before marriage?"

Answer: .. but is sex before marriage considered sexually immoral? According to 1 Corinthians 7:2, “yes” is the clear answer: “But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.” In this verse, Paul states that marriage is the “cure” for sexual immorality. First Corinthians 7:2 is essentially saying that, because people cannot control themselves and so many are having immoral sex outside of marriage, people should get married. Then they can fulfill their passions in a moral way.

Sex between a husband and his wife is the only form of sexual relations of which God approves (Hebrews 13:4).

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1 Corinthians 6:16-18
Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.” But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit. Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.

[Sexual intimacy "unites" you with the other person. When this uniting of flesh happens outside of marriage, it is called "sexual immorality." One fleshness is to be limited to the one you marry. This is similar to what we saw in Exodus 22:16-17.]
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In these first few verses we have:

The 144,000 were redeemed from the earth; redeemed from men and were the first fruits unto God and the lamb.

Does this mean they were raptured?

I don't think so.

The definition of rapture as I understand it is - you go to heaven and never return.



From the looks of it - the 144,000 go to heaven - receive the holy gospel, and return to earth to preach it.

This is not unheard of

We have Paul's experience:


2 Corinthians 12:2 (KJV)
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67771608


We aren't given too much information on the 144,000 in Rev 14 & 7, however there a some who have extrapolated from other verses in the old testament and new testament more characteristics.

Here is an interpretation that does just that:

[link to www.tedloywritings.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73129149


Rev 14:4 tells us these are men who have not been defiled by women..

Verses in Corinthians & Hebrews pretty much explain what this means
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73153109


Question: "What does the Bible say about sex before marriage?"

Answer: .. but is sex before marriage considered sexually immoral? According to 1 Corinthians 7:2, “yes” is the clear answer: “But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.” In this verse, Paul states that marriage is the “cure” for sexual immorality. First Corinthians 7:2 is essentially saying that, because people cannot control themselves and so many are having immoral sex outside of marriage, people should get married. Then they can fulfill their passions in a moral way.

Sex between a husband and his wife is the only form of sexual relations of which God approves (Hebrews 13:4).

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1 Corinthians 6:16-18
Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.” But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit. Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.

[Sexual intimacy "unites" you with the other person. When this uniting of flesh happens outside of marriage, it is called "sexual immorality." One fleshness is to be limited to the one you marry. This is similar to what we saw in Exodus 22:16-17.]
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The next verse - they follow the lamb where ever he goes.

IMO if they are following Jesus - he is leading them.

Does this mean it's like the children of Israel staying as one group like they did in the wilderness, when God lead them after Moses brought them out of Egypt?

I don't think so.

Rev 14:4 ... These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth.
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We aren't given too much information on the 144,000 in Rev 14 & 7, however there a some who have extrapolated from other verses in the old testament and new testament more characteristics.

Here is an interpretation that does just that:

[link to www.tedloywritings.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73129149


Rev 14:4 tells us these are men who have not been defiled by women..

Verses in Corinthians & Hebrews pretty much explain what this means
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73153109


Question: "What does the Bible say about sex before marriage?"

Answer: .. but is sex before marriage considered sexually immoral? According to 1 Corinthians 7:2, “yes” is the clear answer: “But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.” In this verse, Paul states that marriage is the “cure” for sexual immorality. First Corinthians 7:2 is essentially saying that, because people cannot control themselves and so many are having immoral sex outside of marriage, people should get married. Then they can fulfill their passions in a moral way.

Sex between a husband and his wife is the only form of sexual relations of which God approves (Hebrews 13:4).

---

1 Corinthians 6:16-18
Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.” But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit. Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.

[Sexual intimacy "unites" you with the other person. When this uniting of flesh happens outside of marriage, it is called "sexual immorality." One fleshness is to be limited to the one you marry. This is similar to what we saw in Exodus 22:16-17.]
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The next verse - they follow the lamb where ever he goes.

IMO if they are following Jesus - he is leading them.

Does this mean it's like the children of Israel staying as one group like they did in the wilderness, when God lead them after Moses brought them out of Egypt?

I don't think so.

Rev 14:4 ... These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth.
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What does it mean to follow Jesus?

Here is one opinion:

Following Jesus means striving to be like Him. He always obeyed His Father, so that's what we strive to do (John 8:29; 15:10). To truly follow Christ means to make Him the Boss. That's what it means to make Jesus Lord of our lives (Romans 10:9; 1 Corinthians 12:3; 2 Corinthians 4:5). Every decision and dream is filtered through His Word with the goal of glorifying Him in everything (1 Corinthians 10:31)....

To follow Christ means we apply the truths we learn from His Word and live as if Jesus walked beside us in person....

Less than 50%

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But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. Daniel 12:4

Also the increase of knowledge prophesied in the book of Daniel refers to the internet.
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But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. Daniel 12:4

Also the increase of knowledge prophesied in the book of Daniel refers to the internet.
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Yep

Dan 7:23 - the beast shall devour the earth.

How could he do this without the internet?
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To the OP or anyone else. What is your opinion on the UN giving the Temple Mount to the Muslims?









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To the OP or anyone else. What is your opinion on the UN giving the Temple Mount to the Muslims?









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It's indicative of bible prophecies being fulfilled.

All nations of the world abandon Israel.

Once all nations turn against Israel - the gog magog war will start.
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To the OP or anyone else. What is your opinion on the UN giving the Temple Mount to the Muslims?









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It's indicative of bible prophecies being fulfilled.

All nations of the world abandon Israel.

Once all nations turn against Israel - the gog magog war will start.
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Zechariah 12:And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

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Jerusalem has been a huge headache for all heads of state that have tried to get a peace treaty negotiated between Israel and Palestine.
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But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. Daniel 12:4

Also the increase of knowledge prophesied in the book of Daniel refers to the internet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73208912


Yep

Dan 7:23 - the beast shall devour the earth.

How could he do this without the internet?
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+1
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Recompense will be coming!!!
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I remember France had those big floods last time they meddled in these affairs. So maybe something similar to whoever nations are the main offenders.
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I remember France had those big floods last time they meddled in these affairs. So maybe something similar to whoever nations are the main offenders.
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Yep

Hurricane Mathew

All the deaths and disasters we are experiencing around the world from floods and other catastrophes.

Fish deaths by the millions.

Middle East being torn to shreds.

God is giving all the nations of the world a warning shot.
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To the OP or anyone else. What is your opinion on the UN giving the Temple Mount to the Muslims?









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It's indicative of bible prophecies being fulfilled.

All nations of the world abandon Israel.

Once all nations turn against Israel - the gog magog war will start.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66940800


Zechariah 12:And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

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Jerusalem has been a huge headache for all heads of state that have tried to get a peace treaty negotiated between Israel and Palestine.
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Do you all think the war with Syria will lead to Christ second coming?


My understanding of bible prophesy is when a false god is set up on the Mount. The one that ought not be. Which is what is happening when the UN gave the Muslims Gods Holy temple, his coming draws near.



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Last Edited by Firestone on 10/18/2016 05:27 PM
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