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To the OP or anyone else. What is your opinion on the UN giving the Temple Mount to the Muslims?









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Recompense will be coming!!!
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Yes, indeed.
As Mulder once said, "the truth is out there".

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To the OP or anyone else. What is your opinion on the UN giving the Temple Mount to the Muslims?









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It's indicative of bible prophecies being fulfilled.

All nations of the world abandon Israel.

Once all nations turn against Israel - the gog magog war will start.
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Zechariah 12:And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

----




Jerusalem has been a huge headache for all heads of state that have tried to get a peace treaty negotiated between Israel and Palestine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66940800



Do you all think the war with Syria will lead to Christ second coming?


My understanding of bible prophesy is when a false god is set up on the Mount. The one that ought not be. Which is what is happening when the UN gave the Muslims Gods Holy temple, his coming draws near.



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 Quoting: Firestone


Close, but not yet

We have years of prophecies to be fulfilled - just from the book of Revelation alone. However, according to Jesus in Mathew 24, we are in the times of sorrows.

As far as a god being set up - here's 2 Thes 2:

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

It will be the person we have come to know as THE antichrist - who will go into the temple and declare he is god.

After that there will be a great tribulation - Mathew 24:

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
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It's indicative of bible prophecies being fulfilled.

All nations of the world abandon Israel.

Once all nations turn against Israel - the gog magog war will start.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66940800


Zechariah 12:And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

----




Jerusalem has been a huge headache for all heads of state that have tried to get a peace treaty negotiated between Israel and Palestine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66940800



Do you all think the war with Syria will lead to Christ second coming?


My understanding of bible prophesy is when a false god is set up on the Mount. The one that ought not be. Which is what is happening when the UN gave the Muslims Gods Holy temple, his coming draws near.



.
 Quoting: Firestone


Close, but not yet

We have years of prophecies to be fulfilled - just from the book of Revelation alone. However, according to Jesus in Mathew 24, we are in the times of sorrows.

As far as a god being set up - here's 2 Thes 2:

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

It will be the person we have come to know as THE antichrist - who will go into the temple and declare he is god.

After that there will be a great tribulation - Mathew 24:

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73218995


We're told in Daniel 8:23 - this man speaking dark sentences will happen after the gog magog war:

23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

The transgressors are the Israelis who will be protected and forgiven during the gog magog war: Ezekiel 38-9.

Ezekiel 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.

22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the Lord their God from that day and forward.
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Everything Jesus predicted in Matt 24 has come to pass.
The temple was destroyed and ancient Israel was dispersed.
The "end of the world" OF ANCIENT ISRAEL came to pass.

Jesus did NOT promise that we 2000 years later would "see" all that occured at that time.

The "we didn't see it happen so it didn't happen" idea is absurd. Of course we TODAY didn't see what happened nearly 2000 years ago. But THAT era saw it.



Revelation 13->forward is THE revealing of OUR end of era scenario.

One will heed Revelation 13->forward and end up thankful
or
one will sincerely regret not heeding it.

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Everything Jesus predicted in Matt 24 has come to pass.
The temple was destroyed and ancient Israel was dispersed.
The "end of the world" OF ANCIENT ISRAEL came to pass.

Jesus did NOT promise that we 2000 years later would "see" all that occured at that time.

The "we didn't see it happen so it didn't happen" idea is absurd. Of course we TODAY didn't see what happened nearly 2000 years ago. But THAT era saw it.



Revelation 13->forward is THE revealing of OUR end of era scenario.

One will heed Revelation 13->forward and end up thankful
or
one will sincerely regret not heeding it.
 Quoting: JWP


Instead of going over and over everything I've already said, I'll just post this interesting article about partial preterism:

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Those who hold to partial preterism also do not read Matthew 24 in a literal sense. Christ spoke of the destruction of the temple (Matthew 24:2). But much of what He described did not occur in AD 70. Christ speaks of that future time as one of “great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened” (Matthew 24:21–22). Surely, this cannot be applied to the events of AD 70. There have been worse times in the history of the world since then.

The Lord also says, “Immediately after the distress of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory” (Matthew 24:29–30). In order for the events of these two verses to have already occurred, Jesus Christ must have returned bodily in AD 70—but He did not. The partial preterist believes that these verses do not refer to a bodily return of Christ but to an appearing of His judgment. However, this is not what a normal, literal reading of the text would lead anyone to believe. It is the “Son of Man” whom people see, not just His judgment.

Partial preterists also appeal to Matthew 24:34 where Jesus speaks of “this generation.” They say that Christ was referring to those living at the time He spoke the words recorded in that chapter; thus, the tribulation had to occur within about 40 years of His statement. However, we believe that Jesus was not referring to the people of His day but to the generation who would witness the events recorded in Matthew 24:15–31. That future generation will witness all of the swiftly moving events of the last days, including Christ’s bodily return (verses 29–30).

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Zechariah 12:And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

----




Jerusalem has been a huge headache for all heads of state that have tried to get a peace treaty negotiated between Israel and Palestine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66940800



Do you all think the war with Syria will lead to Christ second coming?


My understanding of bible prophesy is when a false god is set up on the Mount. The one that ought not be. Which is what is happening when the UN gave the Muslims Gods Holy temple, his coming draws near.



.
 Quoting: Firestone


Close, but not yet

We have years of prophecies to be fulfilled - just from the book of Revelation alone. However, according to Jesus in Mathew 24, we are in the times of sorrows.

As far as a god being set up - here's 2 Thes 2:

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

It will be the person we have come to know as THE antichrist - who will go into the temple and declare he is god.

After that there will be a great tribulation - Mathew 24:

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73218995


We're told in Daniel 8:23 - this man speaking dark sentences will happen after the gog magog war:

23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

The transgressors are the Israelis who will be protected and forgiven during the gog magog war: Ezekiel 38-9.

Ezekiel 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.

22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the Lord their God from that day and forward.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73218995


Here is an outline of book of Revelation - with supporting verses from Mathew 24, so no one can claim it is symbolic.

Revelation timeline:

7 seal judgements (Rev 6): - Mathew 24, what Jesus calls time of sorrows

First four seal judgements horses of apocalypse start journey -

1) NWO-globalization - by deception; Math 24, see that no man deceives you.
2) war(terrorism?) - Math 24, nation will rise against nation.
3) price of food soars, - Math 24, there will be famine in diverse places.
4) 1/4 part men dies (hunger,pestilence, catastrophes, etc) - Math 24, disease; earthquakes.

5) Christians are killed for believing in Jesus - Math 24, many will be killed for my namesake

6) Great earthquake, sun blackens, moon red, many signs in sky takes place; men hide, for the great day of his wrath is come - Mathew 24, what Jesus calls the Great Tribulation starts with this seal.

7) Opens up the seven trumpet judgements.

The 144,000 witnesses are sealed (protected) - and all hell is literally unleashed on earth.

7 Trumpet judgements:

1) 1/3 of all trees destroyed, all grass burned up.

2) Sun, moon stars all effect what is going to happen on earth(differently).

3) 1/3 of sea life, and ships - die and destroyed.

4) The fresh water supply becomes poisonous.

5) Men that received mark are tortured 5 months

6) Another 1/3 part men dies (war? ELE????) in a little over a year.

7) Opens up the seven vial judgements.

Characters of Revelation: first beast(AC), second beast(false prophet), woman on the beast (mystery babylon).

The AC ultimately destroys the woman on the beast, mystery babylon (USD? elite? Fed?).

The AC's sidekick (false prophet) tells all they must worship AC's image, and take a mark to buy or sell.
If anyone does this they are "lost forever".

Meanwhile the earth is going through such turmoil everyone is asking what is going on - sound familiar?

We will hear the gospel from the 144,000 who will be given a song no man can learn, and temple rebuilt.

2 witnesses will appear - and preach the gospel. After 3 1/2 years will be killed by beast.

They will lay in street 3 days and in front of the whole world God will ascend them into heaven.

The easiest part of all this time to recognize is the last 3 1/2 years:

The AC's army will surround Jerusalem. The AC will go in and defile the temple sanctuary. and declare himself to be God. He will then rule the world. He and his sidekick will be able to perform miracles.

7 Vial judgements: At the end of time - only people with mark of beast should be around to receive the double portion of God's wrath - you definitely don't want to be around for this.

Then Jesus meets beast in what is know as armageddon. Throws the beast in lake of fire, puts satan in pit for 1000 years. After 1000 years satan is released. Tries to get nations to go against Jerusalem. After satan looses that battle is thrown into lake of fire.

God creates new heaven and earth. Jerusalem is center, and God will live with us.


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Beast (EU, antichrist)
Sidekick - false Prophet 2nd beast revelation - USA , China?
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Do you all think the war with Syria will lead to Christ second coming?


My understanding of bible prophesy is when a false god is set up on the Mount. The one that ought not be. Which is what is happening when the UN gave the Muslims Gods Holy temple, his coming draws near.



.
 Quoting: Firestone


Close, but not yet

We have years of prophecies to be fulfilled - just from the book of Revelation alone. However, according to Jesus in Mathew 24, we are in the times of sorrows.

As far as a god being set up - here's 2 Thes 2:

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

It will be the person we have come to know as THE antichrist - who will go into the temple and declare he is god.

After that there will be a great tribulation - Mathew 24:

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73218995


We're told in Daniel 8:23 - this man speaking dark sentences will happen after the gog magog war:

23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

The transgressors are the Israelis who will be protected and forgiven during the gog magog war: Ezekiel 38-9.

Ezekiel 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.

22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the Lord their God from that day and forward.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73218995


Here is an outline of book of Revelation - with supporting verses from Mathew 24, so no one can claim it is symbolic.

Revelation timeline:

7 seal judgements (Rev 6): - Mathew 24, what Jesus calls time of sorrows

First four seal judgements horses of apocalypse start journey -

1) NWO-globalization - by deception; Math 24, see that no man deceives you.
2) war(terrorism?) - Math 24, nation will rise against nation.
3) price of food soars, - Math 24, there will be famine in diverse places.
4) 1/4 part men dies (hunger,pestilence, catastrophes, etc) - Math 24, disease; earthquakes.

5) Christians are killed for believing in Jesus - Math 24, many will be killed for my namesake

6) Great earthquake, sun blackens, moon red, many signs in sky takes place; men hide, for the great day of his wrath is come - Mathew 24, what Jesus calls the Great Tribulation starts with this seal.

7) Opens up the seven trumpet judgements.

The 144,000 witnesses are sealed (protected) - and all hell is literally unleashed on earth.

7 Trumpet judgements:

1) 1/3 of all trees destroyed, all grass burned up.

2) Sun, moon stars all effect what is going to happen on earth(differently).

3) 1/3 of sea life, and ships - die and destroyed.

4) The fresh water supply becomes poisonous.

5) Men that received mark are tortured 5 months

6) Another 1/3 part men dies (war? ELE????) in a little over a year.

7) Opens up the seven vial judgements.

Characters of Revelation: first beast(AC), second beast(false prophet), woman on the beast (mystery babylon).

The AC ultimately destroys the woman on the beast, mystery babylon (USD? elite? Fed?).

The AC's sidekick (false prophet) tells all they must worship AC's image, and take a mark to buy or sell.
If anyone does this they are "lost forever".

Meanwhile the earth is going through such turmoil everyone is asking what is going on - sound familiar?

We will hear the gospel from the 144,000 who will be given a song no man can learn, and temple rebuilt.

2 witnesses will appear - and preach the gospel. After 3 1/2 years will be killed by beast.

They will lay in street 3 days and in front of the whole world God will ascend them into heaven.

The easiest part of all this time to recognize is the last 3 1/2 years:

The AC's army will surround Jerusalem. The AC will go in and defile the temple sanctuary. and declare himself to be God. He will then rule the world. He and his sidekick will be able to perform miracles.

7 Vial judgements: At the end of time - only people with mark of beast should be around to receive the double portion of God's wrath - you definitely don't want to be around for this.

Then Jesus meets beast in what is know as armageddon. Throws the beast in lake of fire, puts satan in pit for 1000 years. After 1000 years satan is released. Tries to get nations to go against Jerusalem. After satan looses that battle is thrown into lake of fire.

God creates new heaven and earth. Jerusalem is center, and God will live with us.


legend:

Beast (EU, antichrist)
Sidekick - false Prophet 2nd beast revelation - USA , China?



vvvvv vvvvv
The AC ultimately destroys the woman on the beast, mystery babylon (USD? elite? Fed?).



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If Hillary becomes President aka HilldaBeast...hmm






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As Mulder once said, "the truth is out there".

"We want to be the band to dance to when the bomb drops." - SLB
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Close, but not yet

We have years of prophecies to be fulfilled - just from the book of Revelation alone. However, according to Jesus in Mathew 24, we are in the times of sorrows.

As far as a god being set up - here's 2 Thes 2:

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

It will be the person we have come to know as THE antichrist - who will go into the temple and declare he is god.

After that there will be a great tribulation - Mathew 24:

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73218995


We're told in Daniel 8:23 - this man speaking dark sentences will happen after the gog magog war:

23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

The transgressors are the Israelis who will be protected and forgiven during the gog magog war: Ezekiel 38-9.

Ezekiel 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.

22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the Lord their God from that day and forward.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73218995


Here is an outline of book of Revelation - with supporting verses from Mathew 24, so no one can claim it is symbolic.

Revelation timeline:

7 seal judgements (Rev 6): - Mathew 24, what Jesus calls time of sorrows

First four seal judgements horses of apocalypse start journey -

1) NWO-globalization - by deception; Math 24, see that no man deceives you.
2) war(terrorism?) - Math 24, nation will rise against nation.
3) price of food soars, - Math 24, there will be famine in diverse places.
4) 1/4 part men dies (hunger,pestilence, catastrophes, etc) - Math 24, disease; earthquakes.

5) Christians are killed for believing in Jesus - Math 24, many will be killed for my namesake

6) Great earthquake, sun blackens, moon red, many signs in sky takes place; men hide, for the great day of his wrath is come - Mathew 24, what Jesus calls the Great Tribulation starts with this seal.

7) Opens up the seven trumpet judgements.

The 144,000 witnesses are sealed (protected) - and all hell is literally unleashed on earth.

7 Trumpet judgements:

1) 1/3 of all trees destroyed, all grass burned up.

2) Sun, moon stars all effect what is going to happen on earth(differently).

3) 1/3 of sea life, and ships - die and destroyed.

4) The fresh water supply becomes poisonous.

5) Men that received mark are tortured 5 months

6) Another 1/3 part men dies (war? ELE????) in a little over a year.

7) Opens up the seven vial judgements.

Characters of Revelation: first beast(AC), second beast(false prophet), woman on the beast (mystery babylon).

The AC ultimately destroys the woman on the beast, mystery babylon (USD? elite? Fed?).

The AC's sidekick (false prophet) tells all they must worship AC's image, and take a mark to buy or sell.
If anyone does this they are "lost forever".

Meanwhile the earth is going through such turmoil everyone is asking what is going on - sound familiar?

We will hear the gospel from the 144,000 who will be given a song no man can learn, and temple rebuilt.

2 witnesses will appear - and preach the gospel. After 3 1/2 years will be killed by beast.

They will lay in street 3 days and in front of the whole world God will ascend them into heaven.

The easiest part of all this time to recognize is the last 3 1/2 years:

The AC's army will surround Jerusalem. The AC will go in and defile the temple sanctuary. and declare himself to be God. He will then rule the world. He and his sidekick will be able to perform miracles.

7 Vial judgements: At the end of time - only people with mark of beast should be around to receive the double portion of God's wrath - you definitely don't want to be around for this.

Then Jesus meets beast in what is know as armageddon. Throws the beast in lake of fire, puts satan in pit for 1000 years. After 1000 years satan is released. Tries to get nations to go against Jerusalem. After satan looses that battle is thrown into lake of fire.

God creates new heaven and earth. Jerusalem is center, and God will live with us.


legend:

Beast (EU, antichrist)
Sidekick - false Prophet 2nd beast revelation - USA , China?



vvvvv vvvvv
The AC ultimately destroys the woman on the beast, mystery babylon (USD? elite? Fed?).



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73218995



If Hillary becomes President aka HilldaBeast...hmm






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I've often thought, if elected - she would become my first choice for mystery babylon(woman on the beast).
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In Mathew 24 one of the first things Jesus tells us is not to let anyone deceive us.

He says this before he gives any end times prophecies.

So what would be the purpose of saying this so early in the discourse?


Mathew 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 or many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.


There have been deceptive people since the beginning of time.

But there will be the biggest deceiver of all - the antichrist, performing miracles and wonders - so awesome he fools even God's people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67772525


The antichrist is the one who will stand in the "holy place".

An item of controversy is - will the temple be built
that the antichrist defiles?

Many say it doesn't have to be built, others say there will be a physical temple.

I'm leaning towards the temple being built - or the
replica used by temple mount faithful to train priest.

How do we know it will be a temple?

Well - there are several sources supporting this belief.

One is Paul - being an x-pharisee he most certainly should know what a temple is:

2 Thessalonians 2

3 Let no man deceive you..and that man of sin be revealed

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

We Also have daniel in several places telling us he will stop the daily sacrifice and declare he is God in the temple :

Daniel 12

9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

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There has to be a temple/physical structure, or how could the daily sacrifice be done?
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The temple that is breached and defiled is our bodies and our minds. They have mapped our nervous systems and brains and have the technology to control, manipulate and know your every thought.

No privacy inside or out, thought police is becoming a reality.
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In Mathew 24 one of the first things Jesus tells us is not to let anyone deceive us.

He says this before he gives any end times prophecies.

So what would be the purpose of saying this so early in the discourse?


Mathew 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 or many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.


There have been deceptive people since the beginning of time.

But there will be the biggest deceiver of all - the antichrist, performing miracles and wonders - so awesome he fools even God's people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67772525


The antichrist is the one who will stand in the "holy place".

An item of controversy is - will the temple be built
that the antichrist defiles?

Many say it doesn't have to be built, others say there will be a physical temple.

I'm leaning towards the temple being built - or the
replica used by temple mount faithful to train priest.

How do we know it will be a temple?

Well - there are several sources supporting this belief.

One is Paul - being an x-pharisee he most certainly should know what a temple is:

2 Thessalonians 2

3 Let no man deceive you..and that man of sin be revealed

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

We Also have daniel in several places telling us he will stop the daily sacrifice and declare he is God in the temple :

Daniel 12

9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

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There has to be a temple/physical structure, or how could the daily sacrifice be done?
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The temple that is breached and defiled is our bodies and our minds. They have mapped our nervous systems and brains and have the technology to control, manipulate and know your every thought.

No privacy inside or out, thought police is becoming a reality.
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This is true, thought police are becoming a reality.

But, Paul is telling us in 2 Thessalonians 2 to not let any man deceive us - that this person will sit in the temple and declare he is god.

2 Thessalonians 2

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
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"This means we want him to be the master of our lives instead of trying to run them ourselves. Have you turned over the control of your life to him?

"Following Christ also means we seek to obey him every day. He knows what is best for us and has told us how he wants us to live in his word, the Bible.

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Rev 14:4 tells us these are men who have not been defiled by women..

Verses in Corinthians & Hebrews pretty much explain what this means
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Question: "What does the Bible say about sex before marriage?"

Answer: .. but is sex before marriage considered sexually immoral? According to 1 Corinthians 7:2, “yes” is the clear answer: “But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.” In this verse, Paul states that marriage is the “cure” for sexual immorality. First Corinthians 7:2 is essentially saying that, because people cannot control themselves and so many are having immoral sex outside of marriage, people should get married. Then they can fulfill their passions in a moral way.

Sex between a husband and his wife is the only form of sexual relations of which God approves (Hebrews 13:4).

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1 Corinthians 6:16-18
Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.” But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit. Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.

[Sexual intimacy "unites" you with the other person. When this uniting of flesh happens outside of marriage, it is called "sexual immorality." One fleshness is to be limited to the one you marry. This is similar to what we saw in Exodus 22:16-17.]
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The next verse - they follow the lamb where ever he goes.

IMO if they are following Jesus - he is leading them.

Does this mean it's like the children of Israel staying as one group like they did in the wilderness, when God lead them after Moses brought them out of Egypt?

I don't think so.

Rev 14:4 ... These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth.
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What does it mean to follow Jesus?

Here is one opinion:

Following Jesus means striving to be like Him. He always obeyed His Father, so that's what we strive to do (John 8:29; 15:10). To truly follow Christ means to make Him the Boss. That's what it means to make Jesus Lord of our lives (Romans 10:9; 1 Corinthians 12:3; 2 Corinthians 4:5). Every decision and dream is filtered through His Word with the goal of glorifying Him in everything (1 Corinthians 10:31)....

To follow Christ means we apply the truths we learn from His Word and live as if Jesus walked beside us in person....

Less than 50%

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In the Gospel of John, chapters 7-8, Jesus goes to the Festival of Tabernacles to publically reveal His identity as the Messiah. In front of everyone He makes a radical statement: “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” (John 8:12)...

[link to livingontheedge.org]
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Question: "What does the Bible say about sex before marriage?"

Answer: .. but is sex before marriage considered sexually immoral? According to 1 Corinthians 7:2, “yes” is the clear answer: “But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.” In this verse, Paul states that marriage is the “cure” for sexual immorality. First Corinthians 7:2 is essentially saying that, because people cannot control themselves and so many are having immoral sex outside of marriage, people should get married. Then they can fulfill their passions in a moral way.

Sex between a husband and his wife is the only form of sexual relations of which God approves (Hebrews 13:4).

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1 Corinthians 6:16-18
Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.” But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit. Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.

[Sexual intimacy "unites" you with the other person. When this uniting of flesh happens outside of marriage, it is called "sexual immorality." One fleshness is to be limited to the one you marry. This is similar to what we saw in Exodus 22:16-17.]
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The next verse - they follow the lamb where ever he goes.

IMO if they are following Jesus - he is leading them.

Does this mean it's like the children of Israel staying as one group like they did in the wilderness, when God lead them after Moses brought them out of Egypt?

I don't think so.

Rev 14:4 ... These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73196528


What does it mean to follow Jesus?

Here is one opinion:

Following Jesus means striving to be like Him. He always obeyed His Father, so that's what we strive to do (John 8:29; 15:10). To truly follow Christ means to make Him the Boss. That's what it means to make Jesus Lord of our lives (Romans 10:9; 1 Corinthians 12:3; 2 Corinthians 4:5). Every decision and dream is filtered through His Word with the goal of glorifying Him in everything (1 Corinthians 10:31)....

To follow Christ means we apply the truths we learn from His Word and live as if Jesus walked beside us in person....

Less than 50%

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In the Gospel of John, chapters 7-8, Jesus goes to the Festival of Tabernacles to publically reveal His identity as the Messiah. In front of everyone He makes a radical statement: “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” (John 8:12)...

[link to livingontheedge.org]
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Rev 14:4 ... These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth....

Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile

One thing I found very shocking are the disney movies.

There was a time I considered them 'safe' - i.e. no taking God's name in vain or profanity.

So I comfortably & confidently turned them on.

Then it happened. Out of the mouths of children, profanity; and adults blaspheme.

Gives you the direction we are going - and fast!!
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The next verse - they follow the lamb where ever he goes.

IMO if they are following Jesus - he is leading them.

Does this mean it's like the children of Israel staying as one group like they did in the wilderness, when God lead them after Moses brought them out of Egypt?

I don't think so.

Rev 14:4 ... These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73196528


What does it mean to follow Jesus?

Here is one opinion:

Following Jesus means striving to be like Him. He always obeyed His Father, so that's what we strive to do (John 8:29; 15:10). To truly follow Christ means to make Him the Boss. That's what it means to make Jesus Lord of our lives (Romans 10:9; 1 Corinthians 12:3; 2 Corinthians 4:5). Every decision and dream is filtered through His Word with the goal of glorifying Him in everything (1 Corinthians 10:31)....

To follow Christ means we apply the truths we learn from His Word and live as if Jesus walked beside us in person....

Less than 50%

[link to gotquestions.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66940800


In the Gospel of John, chapters 7-8, Jesus goes to the Festival of Tabernacles to publically reveal His identity as the Messiah. In front of everyone He makes a radical statement: “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” (John 8:12)...

[link to livingontheedge.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73233531


Rev 14:4 ... These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth....

Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile

One thing I found very shocking are the disney movies.

There was a time I considered them 'safe' - i.e. no taking God's name in vain or profanity.

So I comfortably & confidently turned them on.

Then it happened. Out of the mouths of children, profanity; and adults blaspheme.

Gives you the direction we are going - and fast!!
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Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile for they are without fault before the throne of God.

[link to www.biblestudytools.com]

Small Excerpt:

May their obedient and dedicated state before the Lamb be ever before us as motivation in our walk during the present age! was found no deceit

Their mouths are to be contrasted with the blasphemous mouth of the Beast. See commentary on Revelation 13:5. Unlike the masses upon the earth at the time of their ministry, they do not mouth the lie (2Th. 2Th. 2:11). Their mouths are like that of wisdom and of the Lamb:

Listen, for I will speak of excellent things, and from the opening of my lips will come right things; for my mouth will speak truth; wickedness is an abomination to my lips. All the words of my mouth are with righteousness; nothing crooked or perverse is in them. (Pr. Pr. 8:6-8)
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And Pokeman.
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LOL

Pokeman is how the antichrist ends up in the temple
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What does it mean to follow Jesus?

Here is one opinion:

Following Jesus means striving to be like Him. He always obeyed His Father, so that's what we strive to do (John 8:29; 15:10). To truly follow Christ means to make Him the Boss. That's what it means to make Jesus Lord of our lives (Romans 10:9; 1 Corinthians 12:3; 2 Corinthians 4:5). Every decision and dream is filtered through His Word with the goal of glorifying Him in everything (1 Corinthians 10:31)....

To follow Christ means we apply the truths we learn from His Word and live as if Jesus walked beside us in person....

Less than 50%

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In the Gospel of John, chapters 7-8, Jesus goes to the Festival of Tabernacles to publically reveal His identity as the Messiah. In front of everyone He makes a radical statement: “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” (John 8:12)...

[link to livingontheedge.org]
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Rev 14:4 ... These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth....

Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile

One thing I found very shocking are the disney movies.

There was a time I considered them 'safe' - i.e. no taking God's name in vain or profanity.

So I comfortably & confidently turned them on.

Then it happened. Out of the mouths of children, profanity; and adults blaspheme.

Gives you the direction we are going - and fast!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73241639


Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile for they are without fault before the throne of God.

[link to www.biblestudytools.com]

Small Excerpt:

May their obedient and dedicated state before the Lamb be ever before us as motivation in our walk during the present age! was found no deceit

Their mouths are to be contrasted with the blasphemous mouth of the Beast. See commentary on Revelation 13:5. Unlike the masses upon the earth at the time of their ministry, they do not mouth the lie (2Th. 2Th. 2:11). Their mouths are like that of wisdom and of the Lamb:

Listen, for I will speak of excellent things, and from the opening of my lips will come right things; for my mouth will speak truth; wickedness is an abomination to my lips. All the words of my mouth are with righteousness; nothing crooked or perverse is in them. (Pr. Pr. 8:6-8)
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Next verse:
Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

Just as John in Revelation was told to go and preach to every nation, kindred, tongue and people - the 144,000 have received their instructions.
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In the Gospel of John, chapters 7-8, Jesus goes to the Festival of Tabernacles to publically reveal His identity as the Messiah. In front of everyone He makes a radical statement: “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” (John 8:12)...

[link to livingontheedge.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73233531


Rev 14:4 ... These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth....

Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile

One thing I found very shocking are the disney movies.

There was a time I considered them 'safe' - i.e. no taking God's name in vain or profanity.

So I comfortably & confidently turned them on.

Then it happened. Out of the mouths of children, profanity; and adults blaspheme.

Gives you the direction we are going - and fast!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73241639


Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile for they are without fault before the throne of God.

[link to www.biblestudytools.com]

Small Excerpt:

May their obedient and dedicated state before the Lamb be ever before us as motivation in our walk during the present age! was found no deceit

Their mouths are to be contrasted with the blasphemous mouth of the Beast. See commentary on Revelation 13:5. Unlike the masses upon the earth at the time of their ministry, they do not mouth the lie (2Th. 2Th. 2:11). Their mouths are like that of wisdom and of the Lamb:

Listen, for I will speak of excellent things, and from the opening of my lips will come right things; for my mouth will speak truth; wickedness is an abomination to my lips. All the words of my mouth are with righteousness; nothing crooked or perverse is in them. (Pr. Pr. 8:6-8)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73247205


Next verse:
Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

Just as John in Revelation was told to go and preach to every nation, kindred, tongue and people - the 144,000 have received their instructions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73261428


Mathew 24 we're told once the gospel goes to all nations - the world will end:

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
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Here is a parable Jesus gives us that's a clear signal end times has started, and commentary:

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

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The fig tree is Israel -

When Israel is a new nation - know what season it is (it is a sign of the time).

When you SEE ALL the things listed above - know the end of the world is close.

This generation that SEE's Israel reborn, and all things listed is the generation that will see all prophecies fulfilled.

There are many who dispute Israel is the nation of end times.

I've already given examples from Mathew 24 saying Israel exists before the great tribulation. Here's another:

Ezekiel 38 makes it abundantly clear Israel will be around before the millenial reign - because there will be no more wars once the millenial reign starts.

Eze 38:8 .....in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations (nations - not nation)..

Eze 38:4......and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, ......

5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:

6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.

and bring them all against the mountains of Israel - and God will supernaturally destroy this army.
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Israel is a man's name, not a Nation. Abram's name was changed to Abraham. Jacob's name was changed to Israel. But nowhere was Israel's name changed to Jew.
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Here is a parable Jesus gives us that's a clear signal end times has started, and commentary:

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

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The fig tree is Israel -

When Israel is a new nation - know what season it is (it is a sign of the time).

When you SEE ALL the things listed above - know the end of the world is close.

This generation that SEE's Israel reborn, and all things listed is the generation that will see all prophecies fulfilled.

There are many who dispute Israel is the nation of end times.

I've already given examples from Mathew 24 saying Israel exists before the great tribulation. Here's another:

Ezekiel 38 makes it abundantly clear Israel will be around before the millenial reign - because there will be no more wars once the millenial reign starts.

Eze 38:8 .....in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations (nations - not nation)..

Eze 38:4......and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, ......

5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:

6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.

and bring them all against the mountains of Israel - and God will supernaturally destroy this army.
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Israel is a man's name, not a Nation. Abram's name was changed to Abraham. Jacob's name was changed to Israel. But nowhere was Israel's name changed to Jew.
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Funny - God wasn't aware of that:

Ezekiel 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

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Jeremiah 24:5 Thus saith the Lord, the God of Israel; Like these good figs, so will I acknowledge them that are carried away captive of Judah, whom I have sent out of this place into the land of the Chaldeans for their good.
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Rev 14:4 ... These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth....

Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile

One thing I found very shocking are the disney movies.

There was a time I considered them 'safe' - i.e. no taking God's name in vain or profanity.

So I comfortably & confidently turned them on.

Then it happened. Out of the mouths of children, profanity; and adults blaspheme.

Gives you the direction we are going - and fast!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73241639


Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile for they are without fault before the throne of God.

[link to www.biblestudytools.com]

Small Excerpt:

May their obedient and dedicated state before the Lamb be ever before us as motivation in our walk during the present age! was found no deceit

Their mouths are to be contrasted with the blasphemous mouth of the Beast. See commentary on Revelation 13:5. Unlike the masses upon the earth at the time of their ministry, they do not mouth the lie (2Th. 2Th. 2:11). Their mouths are like that of wisdom and of the Lamb:

Listen, for I will speak of excellent things, and from the opening of my lips will come right things; for my mouth will speak truth; wickedness is an abomination to my lips. All the words of my mouth are with righteousness; nothing crooked or perverse is in them. (Pr. Pr. 8:6-8)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73247205


Next verse:
Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

Just as John in Revelation was told to go and preach to every nation, kindred, tongue and people - the 144,000 have received their instructions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73261428


Mathew 24 we're told once the gospel goes to all nations - the world will end:

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46102615


I believe what we have next is a preview of what is going to happen from here until the end of the world:

Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
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Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile for they are without fault before the throne of God.

[link to www.biblestudytools.com]

Small Excerpt:

May their obedient and dedicated state before the Lamb be ever before us as motivation in our walk during the present age! was found no deceit

Their mouths are to be contrasted with the blasphemous mouth of the Beast. See commentary on Revelation 13:5. Unlike the masses upon the earth at the time of their ministry, they do not mouth the lie (2Th. 2Th. 2:11). Their mouths are like that of wisdom and of the Lamb:

Listen, for I will speak of excellent things, and from the opening of my lips will come right things; for my mouth will speak truth; wickedness is an abomination to my lips. All the words of my mouth are with righteousness; nothing crooked or perverse is in them. (Pr. Pr. 8:6-8)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73247205


Next verse:
Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

Just as John in Revelation was told to go and preach to every nation, kindred, tongue and people - the 144,000 have received their instructions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73261428


Mathew 24 we're told once the gospel goes to all nations - the world will end:

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46102615


I believe what we have next is a preview of what is going to happen from here until the end of the world:

Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73275293


If Chapter 14 is giving us the order in which judgments are to take place during the great tribulation - then we'll see the destruction of mystery babylon first:

Revelation 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication...
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Next verse:
Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

Just as John in Revelation was told to go and preach to every nation, kindred, tongue and people - the 144,000 have received their instructions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73261428


Mathew 24 we're told once the gospel goes to all nations - the world will end:

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46102615


I believe what we have next is a preview of what is going to happen from here until the end of the world:

Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73275293


If Chapter 14 is giving us the order in which judgments are to take place during the great tribulation - then we'll see the destruction of mystery babylon first:

Revelation 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication...
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Many experts believe there are 2 babylons referred to in this verse of Rev 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

If so, it's possible we're going to see them both fulfilled around the same time.

These verses are referring to the first babylon or physical babylon:

Isaiah 13:19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.

20 It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there.

21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.

22 And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.

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Which hasn't happened yet.
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Mathew 24 we're told once the gospel goes to all nations - the world will end:

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
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I believe what we have next is a preview of what is going to happen from here until the end of the world:

Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
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If Chapter 14 is giving us the order in which judgments are to take place during the great tribulation - then we'll see the destruction of mystery babylon first:

Revelation 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73289002


Many experts believe there are 2 babylons referred to in this verse of Rev 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

If so, it's possible we're going to see them both fulfilled around the same time.

These verses are referring to the first babylon or physical babylon:

Isaiah 13:19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.

20 It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there.

21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.

22 And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.

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Which hasn't happened yet.
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And the prophecy for the 2nd babylon hasn't happened yet...

Isaiah 13:11 And I will punish the world for their evil....

Here's a commentary I posted on mystery babylon and the varied views of what it is - starting with this post, about 1/2 way down the page:

The main character in end times is by far the antichrist.

I've spoken at length and almost exclusively of the AC.

However, there is another major player I would like spend some time discussing.

That is mystery babylon aka the woman on the beast of Revelation.

I believe her downfall is key to the rise of the antichrist and the ushering of electronic currency.

Thread: All prophecies the bible says will happen in End Times are happening or almost completed at present (Page 12)
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I believe what we have next is a preview of what is going to happen from here until the end of the world:

Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73275293


If Chapter 14 is giving us the order in which judgments are to take place during the great tribulation - then we'll see the destruction of mystery babylon first:

Revelation 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73289002


Many experts believe there are 2 babylons referred to in this verse of Rev 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

If so, it's possible we're going to see them both fulfilled around the same time.

These verses are referring to the first babylon or physical babylon:

Isaiah 13:19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.

20 It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there.

21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.

22 And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.

---

Which hasn't happened yet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73302882


And the prophecy for the 2nd babylon hasn't happened yet...

Isaiah 13:11 And I will punish the world for their evil....

Here's a commentary I posted on mystery babylon and the varied views of what it is - starting with this post, about 1/2 way down the page:

The main character in end times is by far the antichrist.

I've spoken at length and almost exclusively of the AC.

However, there is another major player I would like spend some time discussing.

That is mystery babylon aka the woman on the beast of Revelation.

I believe her downfall is key to the rise of the antichrist and the ushering of electronic currency.

Thread: All prophecies the bible says will happen in End Times are happening or almost completed at present (Page 12)
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We have parts of Isaiah 13 coming true today.

When God describes a country - he uses it's ancient name; even in end times.

For instance - it's understood that the name of persia is actually modern day Iran. So all commentaries of the gog magog war agree it's Iran that will be involved.

It's the same here in Isaiah 13 - God says he will 'rise' up the medes - and it looks at though he's kept his promise.





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