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Message Subject Prophecies Jesus gave in Mathew 24 and Revevelation require internet and smartphone
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Daniel 8 cont.

The ram is Iran - and becomes great ( a nuclear power ?):

The goat's lead (USA or ?????) country is destroyed and 4 other countries rise up. The antichrist comes out of one of these 4 countries:

4 I saw the ram pushing westward, and northward, and southward; so that no beasts might stand before him, neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand; but he did according to his will, and became great.

5 And as I was considering, behold, an he goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.

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Iran is destroyed by the goat. The goat could be a coalition led by the USA, Nato or EU:

7 And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand.

8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.

9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

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If you recall - Daniel 7 tells us this little horn (antichrist) arrives on the beast after the 10 kings are established.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49492925


Tying the chapters 7 and 8 together - we are given 2 ways the antichrist arrives on the scene.

Chapter 7 - it's clear he rules the very last kingdom on this earth.

Chapter 8 - he only succeeds in ascending to leader ship after the goats horn is broken into 4 separate entities.

From there both chapters add some detail about the character of this evil person:

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Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

23 ..... The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

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Daniel 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.

11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down.

12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.

11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down.

12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

24....his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

25 ...and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68126066


To summarize:

Fourth beast shall:

shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.(Revelation infers the antichrist will head up this effort).

If we extract the antichrists qualities we have in chapter 7 and 8 so far:

shall subdue three kings
shall speak great words against God
shall wear out the saints of the Lord
change times and laws
magnify himself above God
take daily sacrifice away
cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered
by peace shall destroy many

There are other chapters where we learn of the antichrists characteristics, but the
bulk of them come from 7 & 8.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68126066


Daniel 8 continued:

Gabriel, an angel God sent to Daniel to interpret the vision tells Daniel the vision is for the end of time and gives him a breakdown of the vision. Here is where we get more information on the antichrist:

23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

Who are the mighty?

We know who the holy people are i.e. Israel
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68153876


Quote from Passage above: (He) shall destroy the mighty.


Compare James 5 to woman on beast aka mystery babylon (Rev 17 & 18). Are they one and the same, whose destruction causes a worldwide economic collapse:

Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

23....for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries(cdo's, derivatives) were all nations deceived.

Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

The passages here can readily be applied to bankers today:

James 5 King James Version (KJV)

5 Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.

2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.

3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.

4 Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.

5 Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.

6 Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.

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James 5 is pretty much saying what Revelation does about the wob

The mighty refers great men of the earth in James 5 and Rev 18.
 
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