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Would the Apollo Moon astronauts have been frozen then cooked like chicken-in-a-bag - One Star Warrior unveiled - page 28

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I have found a list of NASA paints from the early 1980s and some better tools for calculating view factors as well as some more pictures of the Hasselblad in use so we can revisit the question of the external environment later but for now I want to start to look at the astronaut inside the spacesuit.

The astronaut was was cooled by a water circulating garment called the LCG. The water for the LCG was in turn cooled by a water ice sublimator fed from a tank in the astronauts backpack ( PLS or primary life support system ). Now I guess we have to find out how much cooling capacity the sublimator and its water supply could provide, how much metabolic heat the astronaut released, how much heat did the electrical systems add and if there is any contribution to the cooling from the oxygen supply.

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How much heat did the astronauts generate on the Moon? Here is a video of them moving around to remind you of how strenuous the moving on the Moon might have been.



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

The later missions ( A15,A16,A17 ) used the lunar rover to move around during their long EVA's

Here is a table of metabolic heat ( and work ) production during different activities.

[link to www.engineeringtoolbox.com]

and here is the schedule of EVAs

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

What do you think the peak and the average metabolic rate during the later EVAs would be ?

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There is a giant 144 page PDF here on the technology of the Apollo spacesuit and support systems

[link to www.lpi.usra.edu]

I tells us that enhanced battery in the PLSS used on A15-A17 had a rating of 390 Wh and was designed for 8 hour EVAs. The three subsystems that continuously draw power from the battery are the oxygen circulation fan, water circulation pump and radio transceiver. They have a nominal power consumption of 21.8W,8.4W and 10.9W respectively. The waste heat either ending up in the suit or being directly removed by the sublimator so that's a nominal net contribution to the waste heat removal requirement of 41.1 W

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Denying the reality of the Apollo triumph is morally equivalent to Holocaust denial!

ANTI-SEMITES!!!

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According to the big operations manual, water enters the sublimator at 298 K, 22 C. Once it reaches the sublimator plate it freezes, then sublimates.

The heat flow to the sublimator is equal to the enthalpy of vaporisation of water at 298 K. This is because the water has to freeze first ( producing heat, - the enthalpy of fusion of the water ) before sublimation ( which = enthalpy of fusion + enthalpy of vaporisation ).

at 25 C that is 44KJ/mol

[link to www2.bren.ucsb.edu]

The water feed system for the sublimator in the PLSS for the later Apollo missions contained 5.2 l of water so that's 5200/18 ( water is 18g/mol ) 289 mol. 44KJ/mol * 289 mol = 12.72 MJ of heat can be removed during an EVA.

Over an eight hour EVA ( the longest possible ) that would average 442 W heat removal.

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edit) subject to 96.8% efficiency, see Thread: Would the Apollo Moon astronauts have been frozen then cooked like chicken-in-a-bag - One Star Warrior unveiled - page 28 (Page 26) so multiply those totals by 0.968 to get a closer answer.
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The reason why we didn't really go to the moon is becasue

EARTH IS NOT A PLANET


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Denying the reality of the Apollo triumph is morally equivalent to Holocaust denial!

ANTI-SEMITES!!!

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And oddly enough you will never find a single defender of the Apollo hoax that will ever criticize a jew. EVER

What this seems to indicate is that both hoaxes are being promoted by the same folks, probably towards a similar or identical goal
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There was a brilliant video where all the equipment they officially displayed using on the moon was compilated.
Can't find it now.
It proved that all their cooling tanks, their airtanks, their food, plus all this technical equipment would have NEVER fitted into the capsule!!!!!!

THIS I call proof!
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Plus the rover ....
Impossible!!!!!
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Another video exists where Wernher von Braun states that the quantity of fuel necessary would be so heavy that a rocket could not even lift it from the ground.
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It's very important everyone believes the moon hoax was actually real. Very important to the ruling stratas in this world. The Russians went along with it. Ask yourself why that is.

At the time I'm sure they thought it was a good idea. They really had no idea how dated and anachronistic the 'footage' and 'stills' would look to a post analogue imaging world.

Early plates show evidence of the old ways of manipulating images, where contrast and colour are compromised with each copy. Information is always lost. Evidence of deep etching in images of the lunar lander beneath the orbiting module with a weird moon background come to mind.

Too many things to list here, but it doesn't matter. Loss of faith in their moon landing production by people all over, also means loss of faith in the whole world view. How we're supposed to think about it all... with enemies and wars to be fought - as though Putin is a real enemy, for instance.

Their biggest fear is that people lose faith in it all.
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You are claiming something with these 'magic paints" that is simply not possible, blah blah, I'm a genius, blah blah, no one else would understand, blah blah, can't survive the Van Halen bands, blah blah the Jews did it, blah blah
You can't. SO my post will be deleted.
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I'm not a gold starred member so I can't delete anything and I haven't reported any of your posts so don't play the victim. I asked you to put up or shut up but it seems this miraculous proof you have doesn't exist so from what I can see your posts are just lengthy self aggrandizing noise.

Stick to the thermal environment like the title and first post says or post your dribble on some other thread.

K
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How much heat did the astronauts generate on the Moon? Here is a video of them moving around to remind you of how strenuous the moving on the Moon might have been.



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

The later missions ( A15,A16,A17 ) used the lunar rover to move around during their long EVA's

Here is a table of metabolic heat ( and work ) production during different activities.

[link to www.engineeringtoolbox.com]

and here is the schedule of EVAs

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

What do you think the peak and the average metabolic rate during the later EVAs would be ?

K
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Doesn't anyone want to have a guess at this ? This could be your big chance to prove the Moon landings never happened. Too high a metabolic output and you have ( nearly ) all the proof you need.

K
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There was a brilliant video where all the equipment they officially displayed using on the moon was compilated.
Can't find it now.
It proved that all their cooling tanks, their airtanks, their food, plus all this technical equipment would have NEVER fitted into the capsule!!!!!!
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How convenient.

Another video exists where Wernher von Braun states that the quantity of fuel necessary would be so heavy that a rocket could not even lift it from the ground.
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I guess, you can't find it, too.

How convenient.

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Another video exists where Wernher von Braun states that the quantity of fuel necessary would be so heavy that a rocket could not even lift it from the ground.
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Did you get the context of that statement? He was talking about using the direct ascent method.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
They instead went with the lunar orbit rendezvous method which uses far less fuel.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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There was a brilliant video where all the equipment they officially displayed using on the moon was compilated.
Can't find it now.
It proved that all their cooling tanks, their airtanks, their food, plus all this technical equipment would have NEVER fitted into the capsule!!!!!!

THIS I call proof!
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Sure it did. And conveniently it can't be found. rolleyes yet the technical diagrams show where everything was and videos and pictures are available showing stuff being unpacked.

Plus the rover ....
Impossible!!!!!
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Attached to the outside and there is video of its deployment
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There was a brilliant video where all the equipment they officially displayed using on the moon was compilated.
Can't find it now.
It proved that all their cooling tanks, their airtanks, their food, plus all this technical equipment would have NEVER fitted into the capsule!!!!!!

THIS I call proof!
 Quoting: German Coward 68047183

People making stupid claims on the internet is only proof of stupidity.

Plus the rover ....
Impossible!!!!!
 Quoting: German Coward 68047183

The rover wasn't carried inside the "capsule."

Another video exists [Can't find it now.] where Wernher von Braun states that the quantity of fuel necessary would be so heavy that a rocket could not even lift it from the ground.
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No, he wrote that a single-stage-to-the-moon-and-back-to-Earth rocketship would be impractically large. "As large as the Empire State building and as heavy as the QE2.".
Hence one would need to use staging.

Apollo used staging. ALLL space missions use staging.

He also wrote: "I have learned to use the word 'impossible' with the greatest caution."

Not as if Von Braun was the only rocket scientist ever!
Millions of people know how to calculate these things.
Hoaxies invariably CAN NOT.
book


Early plates show evidence of the old ways of manipulating images, where contrast and colour are compromised with each copy.
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You can win €50,000 if you can demonstrate that THIS IS TRUE.
book
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Early plates show evidence of the old ways of manipulating images, where contrast and colour are compromised with each copy.
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You can win €50,000 if you can demonstrate that THIS IS TRUE.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


Who judges what has been proved, the ones offering the reward?

How exactly does THAT work?

I can PROVE several different aspects of fakery in the Apollo surface photography , not beyond reasonable doubt, but beyond a shadow of a doubt, using the scientific method and accepted methodologies.


These include the following:

1)Lunar surface devoid of coloration

2)Objects appearing in backgrounds are within 100 meters of the camera as proved by sophisticated parallax investigations.
3)Proximity of landing sites to previous unmanned probes is suggestive that images from these probes were used to create accurate backdrops using front screen projection

4)Objects in shadows clearly visible with Sun in frame, an impossibility

5) Parallax investigation of Shadows indicate proximity of lighting source is 93,000,000 miles closer to the illuminated objects than the Sun

6)Clearly defined line between background screen and stage visible in every Apollo image with mountains in background

7) Infinite focus, objects close to cameras are in focus as well as objects many miles from the camera, indicating background are much closer than claimed.

8) Photography indicates alinement of antennas not in Earths direction during periods of broadcasting video

9)Lack of radiation damage to a single frame, no high energy particle spotting and no x radiation fogging.

10)Presence of Scotchlite front projection screen evident simple by adjusting contrast and brightness in original photography , including photos released to media and public

I have a 100 more, where do I collect?
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FTW!

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You are claiming something with these 'magic paints" that is simply not possible, blah blah, I'm a genius, blah blah, no one else would understand, blah blah, can't survive the Van Halen bands, blah blah the Jews did it, blah blah
You can't. SO my post will be deleted.
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I'm not a gold starred member so I can't delete anything and I haven't reported any of your posts so don't play the victim. I asked you to put up or shut up but it seems this miraculous proof you have doesn't exist so from what I can see your posts are just lengthy self aggrandizing noise.

Stick to the thermal environment like the title and first post says or post your dribble on some other thread.

K
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Altering posts in quotes is an autoban offense. Your desperation(and the fact you were nto banned for the same thing other would have been) are very revealing.
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Really? I'd be very surprised at that, give the software used to run this board isn't sophisticated enough to detect that.

Or do you not actually know what "auto-ban" means? tounge

The question is DIRECTLY RELATED to your claims and proves they are nonsense, explain how paint can reflect thermal energy outward while not impeding emissivity of the metal it is painted onto.

I have had enough experience in this particular area to know you're FOS.
 Quoting: IDW 68059166

On the contrary, your points are only tangentially related to the issue of the thermal properties of the camera and film (the subject of this thread). And your contentions about religious stereotypes has no bearing on it whatever - it only shows your own particular illogical and irrational approach to the subject...
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Another video exists [Can't find it now.] where Wernher von Braun states that the quantity of fuel necessary would be so heavy that a rocket could not even lift it from the ground.
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No, he wrote that a single-stage-to-the-moon-and-back-to-Earth rocketship would be impractically large. "As large as the Empire State building and as heavy as the QE2.".
Hence one would need to use staging.

Apollo used staging. ALLL space missions use staging.

He also wrote: "I have learned to use the word 'impossible' with the greatest caution."

Not as if Von Braun was the only rocket scientist ever!
Millions of people know how to calculate these things.
Hoaxies invariably CAN NOT.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Daze, drug addict that supplies his habit by lying on the internet


He might not have been the ONLY rocket scientist, but he was NASA's lead man. Multi staging had already been applied. He was calculating the size of the rocket necessary by including adequate shielding, something you ignore.
 Quoting: IDW 68059166

Nope! You're taking his statement out of the context it was made in.

Please go and find the relevant quote, and post the whole thing if you think he was talking about a multi-stage mission, and about the required shielding.

NOTE : since Von Braun wasn't talking about the weight of the shielding, IDW will now avoid answering, ignore the question, and hurl insults...
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Meanwhile, we're still waiting for IDW to :-

a) point out the flaws in K. Hall's calculations

and / or

b) provide his own calculations showing the extremes of temperature he claims the camera would have been subjected to while on in use on the moon

Should I start running a book on when we can expect these pronouncements?

(My money is on "never"...)
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I have found a list of NASA paints from the early 1980s and some better tools for calculating view factors as well as some more pictures of the Hasselblad in use so we can revisit the question of the external environment later but for now I want to start to look at the astronaut inside the spacesuit.

The astronaut was was cooled by a water circulating garment called the LCG. The water for the LCG was in turn cooled by a water ice sublimator fed from a tank in the astronauts backpack ( PLS or primary life support system ). Now I guess we have to find out how much cooling capacity the sublimator and its water supply could provide, how much metabolic heat the astronaut released, how much heat did the electrical systems add and if there is any contribution to the cooling from the oxygen supply.

K
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You are claiming something with these 'magic paints" that is simply not possible. If you have a type of paint that reflects radiant heat , it's going to impede the radiant process and decrease emissivity of the metal it is painted onto.. In other words, if it can reflect heat in one direction, it will in the other as well.

I don't think anyone familiar with the Apollo hoax is unaware of the claims with the space suit. I have engaged in an extremely detailed conversation about them and I know more details about it than I believe you are capable of understanding. Obviously space suits work in low Earth orbit, and the designs being used now are essentially the same as the Apollo space suits. The problem with the Apollo space suits is that they offer zero protection from radiation ,of which there were three types present on the moon that were of concern.

One of course was solar radiation, which under ordinary conditions would result in a greatly increased exposure rate due to X rays (which are CONTINUOUSLY emitted by the Sun), proton particle radiation (with a wide energy levels which taper off gradually towards the higher end of the spectrum), electron particle radiation (which produces x rays upon contact with matter) and in the case of a particle event or x ray flare depending on the strength could have resulted in nearly instant death to an astronaut. Cosmic radiation impacting the lunar surface results in a splattering effect and gamma +x ray emissions which are very powerful. And then there is the radioisotopes that are spread all over the lunar surface that would have been on the space suits when they entered the LEM and took them off. They'd have breathed this material, it couldn't be a voided. They claim they smelled it, that means they breathed it, But I'm not claiming they couldn't have survived. What I am saying is this:

If you combine whatever level of radiation that could be reasonably expected traversing the VAB at a latitude no greater than 20-40 degrees (this course HAS been determined to great deal of accuracy to have been an average of 12-13 degrees north latitude through the lower belt to approximately 18.5 degrees north latitude in the electron region with that of what the astronauts would have been exposed to on the lunar surface, wouldn't radiation exposure rates have to be at least considerably higher than a lower earth orbit mission inside a command module of identical design?

How is this possible?

You do realize we have NASA's biometric reports that they have since scrubbed from the internet that prove the radiation exposure rates were practically identical with Apollo 7 (a Low Earth orbit Mission) and Apollo 11?


Thats not possible and is indicative of the fact that Apollo 11 (and all Apollo missions) did not involve astronauts leaving low Earth orbit or walking on the moon. There in fact is not any discernible difference between the astronaut who never walked on the moon and orbited in the command module with that of those who supposedly walked on the moon. What does that tell you?

I know the thermal problems with a lunar surface mission could possibly be managed, but not in comfort and not with chemical emulsion film. But how do you reconcile the radiation biometric data?

You can't. SO my post will be deleted.
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I would like to see a step by step response to this post.
I think we all would.
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1rof1 I'm not your monkey, you're mine ! I have no idea what your 1st paragraph is about, try again only this time quote the actual example you don't understand.

K

Edit - I have just seen this on another thread

Talk on topic of FUCK OFF

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Well said, this thread is about the thermal environment, there are 1001 threads about the Van Halen bands so talk on topic like the man said.
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Another video exists [Can't find it now.] where Wernher von Braun states that the quantity of fuel necessary would be so heavy that a rocket could not even lift it from the ground.
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No, he wrote that a single-stage-to-the-moon-and-back-to-Earth rocketship would be impractically large. "As large as the Empire State building and as heavy as the QE2.".
Hence one would need to use staging.

Apollo used staging. ALLL space missions use staging.

He also wrote: "I have learned to use the word 'impossible' with the greatest caution."

Not as if Von Braun was the only rocket scientist ever!
Millions of people know how to calculate these things.
Hoaxies invariably CAN NOT.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Daze, drug addict that supplies his habit by lying on the internet


He might not have been the ONLY rocket scientist, but he was NASA's lead man. Multi staging had already been applied. He was calculating the size of the rocket necessary by including adequate shielding, something you ignore.
 Quoting: IDW 68059166

Wrong. He was talking about the direct ascent method.
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You are claiming something with these 'magic paints" that is simply not possible, blah blah, I'm a genius, blah blah, no one else would understand, blah blah, can't survive the Van Halen bands, blah blah the Jews did it, blah blah
You can't. SO my post will be deleted.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22799246


I'm not a gold starred member so I can't delete anything and I haven't reported any of your posts so don't play the victim. I asked you to put up or shut up but it seems this miraculous proof you have doesn't exist so from what I can see your posts are just lengthy self aggrandizing noise.

Stick to the thermal environment like the title and first post says or post your dribble on some other thread.

K
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Altering posts in quotes is an autoban offense. Your desperation(and the fact you were nto banned for the same thing other would have been) are very revealing.

The question is DIRECTLY RELATED to your claims and proves they are nonsense, explain how paint can reflect thermal energy outward while not impeding emissivity of the metal it is painted onto.

I have had enough experience in this particular area to know you're FOS.
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drama

If you feel so buthurt why don't you report me ?

K
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Early plates show evidence of the old ways of manipulating images, where contrast and colour are compromised with each copy.
 Quoting: Ozzie Coward 67961062


You can win €50,000 if you can demonstrate that THIS IS TRUE.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


Who judges what has been proved, the ones offering the reward?

How exactly does THAT work?

I can PROVE several different aspects of fakery in the Apollo surface photography , not beyond reasonable doubt, but beyond a shadow of a doubt, using the scientific method and accepted methodologies.


These include the following:

1)Lunar surface devoid of coloration

2)Objects appearing in backgrounds are within 100 meters of the camera as proved by sophisticated parallax investigations.
3)Proximity of landing sites to previous unmanned probes is suggestive that images from these probes were used to create accurate backdrops using front screen projection

4)Objects in shadows clearly visible with Sun in frame, an impossibility

5) Parallax investigation of Shadows indicate proximity of lighting source is 93,000,000 miles closer to the illuminated objects than the Sun

6)Clearly defined line between background screen and stage visible in every Apollo image with mountains in background

7) Infinite focus, objects close to cameras are in focus as well as objects many miles from the camera, indicating background are much closer than claimed.

8) Photography indicates alinement of antennas not in Earths direction during periods of broadcasting video

9)Lack of radiation damage to a single frame, no high energy particle spotting and no x radiation fogging.

10)Presence of Scotchlite front projection screen evident simple by adjusting contrast and brightness in original photography , including photos released to media and public

I have a 100 more, where do I collect?
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clappa

NAILED IT!!!
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NAILED IT!!!
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Yeah, Nailed it [link to justsomething.co]

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I'm not your monkey, you're mine !
 Quoting: K Hall



Yeah, okee dokee

Now get back in your cage and stop slinging your feces

You've been destroyed in this "exercise" Your sock puppeting is showing too.
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Destroyed by your super secret squirrel model and calculations that are so secret no one is allowed to see them, but you have to believe they exist because, because... because ... a middle aged man who calls himself the inter-dimensional warrior who has apparently frittered away half his life on a conspiracy theory and who in his own mind is a brilliant scientist but in reality can't even understand the most basic concepts says so.

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Re: Would the Apollo Moon astronauts have been frozen then cooked like chicken-in-a-bag - One Star Warrior unveiled - page 28
No I don't There are several variables that we don't have. But the fact that you ignore surface thermal emission and solar energy from your "calculations"
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The sublimator is inside the PLSS, its not exposed to the external environment what solar energy is it exposed to, in the dark, inside the PLSS, behind the insulation ?

proves you have ignored an obvious problem that would have probably made sublimation impossible. Before water can sublimate it has to freeze, and in a vacuum the temperature neccessary to freeze water is slightly less than at atmospheric pressure.
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more than 75K colder.

Compare this to the thermal equilibrium temperature of the camera you calculated without solar energy input
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Because the camera's surface is exposed to the Sun.

It is my contention that the design COULD work in orbit, and probably would as long as the astronaut didn't remain in a position exposing the side of the sublimator to the Sun, but on the lunar surface with surface temperatures exceeding 90C and possibly as high as 130C, sublimation couldn't work in any position consistently. SHOW YOURcalculations!

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What does the regolith temperature have to do with the temperature inside the PLSS ? You seem to be continually confused by the idea that there is a "Moon temperature" and everything on the Moon will be at the same temperature. Get yourself a physics book and start with the basics.

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Re: Would the Apollo Moon astronauts have been frozen then cooked like chicken-in-a-bag - One Star Warrior unveiled - page 28
Another video exists [Can't find it now.] where Wernher von Braun states that the quantity of fuel necessary would be so heavy that a rocket could not even lift it from the ground.
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No, he wrote that a single-stage-to-the-moon-and-back-to-Earth rocketship would be impractically large. "As large as the Empire State building and as heavy as the QE2.".
Hence one would need to use staging.

Apollo used staging. ALLL space missions use staging.

He also wrote: "I have learned to use the word 'impossible' with the greatest caution."

Not as if Von Braun was the only rocket scientist ever!
Millions of people know how to calculate these things.
Hoaxies invariably CAN NOT.
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He might not have been the ONLY rocket scientist, but he was NASA's lead man.
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There was no NASA in 1953.

Multi staging had already been applied.
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The book was written for laymen.
Multi-staging was shown in the 1929 German SF-movie Frau im Mond which had Von Braun's mentor Hermann Oberth as science advisor, so the pros were certainly familiar with it.

He was calculating the size of the rocket necessary by including adequate shielding, something you ignore.
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So you haven't read the chapter in question.

Why do you fekking lie so much, you fekking liar?
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