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Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless.

 
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[link to thehill.com]

Three months ago, our State Department had a serious cyber breach. And today, they are powerless to rid the system of Russian malware that could shutdown our gas pipelines, wind turbines, and power plants.

We seem to be sitting ducks. When will Russia decide to show their power by shutting down a power plant?

Why can we not rid our system of this malware? Why?

FROM ARTICLE:

Exactly which portions of the State Department network are still infiltrated is unclear. The department continues to take portions of its network, such as remote email access, offline in attempts to eradicate the cyber crooks.

Russian hackers are seen as one of the most consistent threat to U.S. networks.

Not only are they thought to be behind the State Department and White House breaches, reports show Russians have infiltrated most of the U.S. critical infrastructure. It’s believed Russians have planted malware that could allow them to attack anything from gas pipelines, to wind turbines, to power plants.

The government has yet to confirm this, though. At a December hearing, National Security Agency Director Michael Rogers acknowledged that China and “one or two” other countries are sitting on U.S. networks. The other countries are likely Russia and Iran
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I work in data security and networking and have background in embedded systems. It does not work like that. If it happens, it was orchestrated. Just like Sony.
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[link to thehill.com]

Three months ago, our State Department had a serious cyber breach. And today, they are powerless to rid the system of Russian malware that could shutdown our gas pipelines, wind turbines, and power plants.

We seem to be sitting ducks. When will Russia decide to show their power by shutting down a power plant?

Why can we not rid our system of this malware? Why?

FROM ARTICLE:

Exactly which portions of the State Department network are still infiltrated is unclear. The department continues to take portions of its network, such as remote email access, offline in attempts to eradicate the cyber crooks.

Russian hackers are seen as one of the most consistent threat to U.S. networks.

Not only are they thought to be behind the State Department and White House breaches, reports show Russians have infiltrated most of the U.S. critical infrastructure. It’s believed Russians have planted malware that could allow them to attack anything from gas pipelines, to wind turbines, to power plants.

The government has yet to confirm this, though. At a December hearing, National Security Agency Director Michael Rogers acknowledged that China and “one or two” other countries are sitting on U.S. networks. The other countries are likely Russia and Iran
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Thank God! I hope this means Putin is getting ready to make his move and comes and liberates the American people from their oppression, from this Criminal and Satanic Godless, Homosexual/warped Muslim regime that has over taken us..
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Pretty sure when the ship hits the fan, both sides may be in a world of hurt when the gloves come off.
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I work in data security and networking and have background in embedded systems. It does not work like that. If it happens, it was orchestrated. Just like Sony.
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Thank you for your firsthand knowledge.
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I work in data security and networking and have background in embedded systems. It does not work like that. If it happens, it was orchestrated. Just like Sony.
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So you are saying we could get rid of the malware if we really wanted to?

OR is this just a general state of cyber security in the world now? We are all in each other's hair?
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Pretty sure when the ship hits the fan, both sides may be in a world of hurt when the gloves come off.
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Yeah, it could be Armageddon...so many possibilities for Armageddon.
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Soon.
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I work in data security and networking and have background in embedded systems. It does not work like that. If it happens, it was orchestrated. Just like Sony.
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Thank you for your firsthand knowledge.
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Yes. How would malware in state department systems be used to shut down gas pipelines, which are completely different systems?
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time to fire them nukes..
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I work in data security and networking and have background in embedded systems. It does not work like that. If it happens, it was orchestrated. Just like Sony.
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Thank you for your firsthand knowledge.
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Yes. How would malware in state department systems be used to shut down gas pipelines, which are completely different systems?
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Don't ask me. I don't understand why we cannot rid our system of this stuff.
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I work in data security and networking and have background in embedded systems. It does not work like that. If it happens, it was orchestrated. Just like Sony.
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Thank you for your firsthand knowledge.
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Yes. How would malware in state department systems be used to shut down gas pipelines, which are completely different systems?
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Don't ask me. I don't understand why we cannot rid our system of this stuff.
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If it's severe enough, you reformat all infected systems and rebuild them. The two Saturday Night Live comediennes Jen Psaki and Marie Harf could do that.
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Thank you for your firsthand knowledge.
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Yes. How would malware in state department systems be used to shut down gas pipelines, which are completely different systems?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52424965

Don't ask me. I don't understand why we cannot rid our system of this stuff.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


If it's severe enough, you reformat all infected systems and rebuild them. The two Saturday Night Live comediennes Jen Psaki and Marie Harf could do that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52424965


Yeah, we always have Marie Harf. I don't know why I am worried.
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Thank you for your firsthand knowledge.
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Yes. How would malware in state department systems be used to shut down gas pipelines, which are completely different systems?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52424965

Don't ask me. I don't understand why we cannot rid our system of this stuff.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


If it's severe enough, you reformat all infected systems and rebuild them. The two Saturday Night Live comediennes Jen Psaki and Marie Harf could do that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52424965


But maybe the Russians infected the hard drive firmware. Might have to trash the old servers. I'm not really familiar with firmware infections.
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Yes. How would malware in state department systems be used to shut down gas pipelines, which are completely different systems?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52424965

Don't ask me. I don't understand why we cannot rid our system of this stuff.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


If it's severe enough, you reformat all infected systems and rebuild them. The two Saturday Night Live comediennes Jen Psaki and Marie Harf could do that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52424965


Yeah, we always have Marie Harf. I don't know why I am worried.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


Every time I see one of those silly girls, I keep expecting them to shout out, "Live from New York, it's ..."
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Yes. How would malware in state department systems be used to shut down gas pipelines, which are completely different systems?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52424965

Don't ask me. I don't understand why we cannot rid our system of this stuff.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


If it's severe enough, you reformat all infected systems and rebuild them. The two Saturday Night Live comediennes Jen Psaki and Marie Harf could do that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52424965


But maybe the Russians infected the hard drive firmware. Might have to trash the old servers. I'm not really familiar with firmware infections.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52424965


Wow, I have never heard of that. Surely someone in the US has the knowledge to handle this.
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Don't ask me. I don't understand why we cannot rid our system of this stuff.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


If it's severe enough, you reformat all infected systems and rebuild them. The two Saturday Night Live comediennes Jen Psaki and Marie Harf could do that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52424965


Yeah, we always have Marie Harf. I don't know why I am worried.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


Every time I see one of those silly girls, I keep expecting them to shout out, "Live from New York, it's ..."
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Yeah, so true!5a
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There are ways.

Everything is so interconnected, it wouldn't take much to throw a wrench into the gears.

Most people say "my water still flows during a power outage".

Let's look at that on a larger scale.

If the power goes out, the electric pumps that are pumping water into the tower stop pumping. Once the tower runs dry, the water presure will drop to zero & no water comes out of your faucet.

Yeah, but the towers have a diesel backup pump.

Yes, but do they have the fuel stored up to run those backup pumps? If not they need to run to the gas station & guess what?

The fuel pumps run on electricity. No diesel = no water from the faucet.
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There are ways.

Everything is so interconnected, it wouldn't take much to throw a wrench into the gears.

Most people say "my water still flows during a power outage".

Let's look at that on a larger scale.

If the power goes out, the electric pumps that are pumping water into the tower stop pumping. Once the tower runs dry, the water presure will drop to zero & no water comes out of your faucet.

Yeah, but the towers have a diesel backup pump.

Yes, but do they have the fuel stored up to run those backup pumps? If not they need to run to the gas station & guess what?

The fuel pumps run on electricity. No diesel = no water from the faucet.
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In the so-called Internet of Things, everyone is vulnerable. The USSA is vulnerable. Russia is vulnerable. China is vulnerable.
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If it's severe enough, you reformat all infected systems and rebuild them. The two Saturday Night Live comediennes Jen Psaki and Marie Harf could do that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52424965


Yeah, we always have Marie Harf. I don't know why I am worried.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


Every time I see one of those silly girls, I keep expecting them to shout out, "Live from New York, it's ..."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52424965


Yeah, so true!5a
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


They are both so unprofessional. Marie Harf should be working the cosmetics counter at Macy's. Jen Psaki should be a low level bureaucrat for the DMV.
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lol
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There are ways.

Everything is so interconnected, it wouldn't take much to throw a wrench into the gears.

Most people say "my water still flows during a power outage".

Let's look at that on a larger scale.

If the power goes out, the electric pumps that are pumping water into the tower stop pumping. Once the tower runs dry, the water presure will drop to zero & no water comes out of your faucet.

Yeah, but the towers have a diesel backup pump.

Yes, but do they have the fuel stored up to run those backup pumps? If not they need to run to the gas station & guess what?

The fuel pumps run on electricity. No diesel = no water from the faucet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5597618


Very well explained. Thank you. We are really in a very fragile system.
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Yeah, we always have Marie Harf. I don't know why I am worried.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


Every time I see one of those silly girls, I keep expecting them to shout out, "Live from New York, it's ..."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52424965


Yeah, so true!5a
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


They are both so unprofessional. Marie Harf should be working the cosmetics counter at Macy's. Jen Psaki should be a low level bureaucrat for the DMV.
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That's the Obama administration for you.
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There are ways.

Everything is so interconnected, it wouldn't take much to throw a wrench into the gears.

Most people say "my water still flows during a power outage".

Let's look at that on a larger scale.

If the power goes out, the electric pumps that are pumping water into the tower stop pumping. Once the tower runs dry, the water presure will drop to zero & no water comes out of your faucet.

Yeah, but the towers have a diesel backup pump.

Yes, but do they have the fuel stored up to run those backup pumps? If not they need to run to the gas station & guess what?

The fuel pumps run on electricity. No diesel = no water from the faucet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5597618


Very well explained. Thank you. We are really in a very fragile system.
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No...these systems are not that interconnected...you can take down a server and the plants would work just fine. You would have to have a working knowledge of many stand alone controllers.
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There are ways.

Everything is so interconnected, it wouldn't take much to throw a wrench into the gears.

Most people say "my water still flows during a power outage".

Let's look at that on a larger scale.

If the power goes out, the electric pumps that are pumping water into the tower stop pumping. Once the tower runs dry, the water presure will drop to zero & no water comes out of your faucet.

Yeah, but the towers have a diesel backup pump.

Yes, but do they have the fuel stored up to run those backup pumps? If not they need to run to the gas station & guess what?

The fuel pumps run on electricity. No diesel = no water from the faucet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5597618


Very well explained. Thank you. We are really in a very fragile system.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman

No...these systems are not that interconnected...you can take down a server and the plants would work just fine. You would have to have a working knowledge of many stand alone controllers.
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Explain, "stand alone controllers."
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[link to thehill.com]

Three months ago, our State Department had a serious cyber breach. And today, they are powerless to rid the system of Russian malware that could shutdown our gas pipelines, wind turbines, and power plants.

We seem to be sitting ducks. When will Russia decide to show their power by shutting down a power plant?

Why can we not rid our system of this malware? Why?

FROM ARTICLE:

Exactly which portions of the State Department network are still infiltrated is unclear. The department continues to take portions of its network, such as remote email access, offline in attempts to eradicate the cyber crooks.

Russian hackers are seen as one of the most consistent threat to U.S. networks.

Not only are they thought to be behind the State Department and White House breaches, reports show Russians have infiltrated most of the U.S. critical infrastructure. It’s believed Russians have planted malware that could allow them to attack anything from gas pipelines, to wind turbines, to power plants.

The government has yet to confirm this, though. At a December hearing, National Security Agency Director Michael Rogers acknowledged that China and “one or two” other countries are sitting on U.S. networks. The other countries are likely Russia and Iran
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bullshit, they dont know who or if any because they should be able to remove. so they can't see it and can't find it but they know its there adn it was the russians?

doubt it
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They announced these "FACTS" from our trustworthy gubernment because they knew the truth was coming out about the NSA corruption of ALL HARD DRIVES ON ALL COMPUTERS.
Their RUSSIA is the devil show is old, tired and full of NSA bullshit.
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There are ways.

Everything is so interconnected, it wouldn't take much to throw a wrench into the gears.

Most people say "my water still flows during a power outage".

Let's look at that on a larger scale.

If the power goes out, the electric pumps that are pumping water into the tower stop pumping. Once the tower runs dry, the water presure will drop to zero & no water comes out of your faucet.

Yeah, but the towers have a diesel backup pump.

Yes, but do they have the fuel stored up to run those backup pumps? If not they need to run to the gas station & guess what?

The fuel pumps run on electricity. No diesel = no water from the faucet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5597618


Very well explained. Thank you. We are really in a very fragile system.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman

No...these systems are not that interconnected...you can take down a server and the plants would work just fine. You would have to have a working knowledge of many stand alone controllers.
 Quoting: StriScoLand


Explain, "stand alone controllers."
 Quoting: Mountain Woman



Not everything is connected to the internet. Unfortunately we are sliding down this path of connecting everything (internet of everything) but there are critical things that will never be reached on the web) They can only be compromised locally or via malware delivered locally. This is what gates with guys with guns are for as well as access levels and clearances ETC.

Some embedded systems don't run an OS that can be compromised (hard programmed controller), you have to practically reprogram the module, I hope someone would have stopped you at the gate before this happens.
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Why do we not have a gif...I think they are called that...of John McCain dancing and cavorting?? I would use it to show how happy he is that we are close to a good ole Nuke fest.
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One star because of the severe lack of titties in this thread.





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