Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10456635 United States 02/20/2015 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. I work in data security and networking and have background in embedded systems. It does not work like that. If it happens, it was orchestrated. Just like Sony. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61555135 United States 02/20/2015 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. [link to thehill.com] Quoting: Mountain Woman Three months ago, our State Department had a serious cyber breach. And today, they are powerless to rid the system of Russian malware that could shutdown our gas pipelines, wind turbines, and power plants. We seem to be sitting ducks. When will Russia decide to show their power by shutting down a power plant? Why can we not rid our system of this malware? Why? FROM ARTICLE: Exactly which portions of the State Department network are still infiltrated is unclear. The department continues to take portions of its network, such as remote email access, offline in attempts to eradicate the cyber crooks. Russian hackers are seen as one of the most consistent threat to U.S. networks. Not only are they thought to be behind the State Department and White House breaches, reports show Russians have infiltrated most of the U.S. critical infrastructure. It’s believed Russians have planted malware that could allow them to attack anything from gas pipelines, to wind turbines, to power plants. The government has yet to confirm this, though. At a December hearing, National Security Agency Director Michael Rogers acknowledged that China and “one or two” other countries are sitting on U.S. networks. The other countries are likely Russia and Iran Thank God! I hope this means Putin is getting ready to make his move and comes and liberates the American people from their oppression, from this Criminal and Satanic Godless, Homosexual/warped Muslim regime that has over taken us.. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 02/20/2015 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. I work in data security and networking and have background in embedded systems. It does not work like that. If it happens, it was orchestrated. Just like Sony. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10456635 So you are saying we could get rid of the malware if we really wanted to? OR is this just a general state of cyber security in the world now? We are all in each other's hair? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52424965 United States 02/20/2015 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. I work in data security and networking and have background in embedded systems. It does not work like that. If it happens, it was orchestrated. Just like Sony. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10456635 Thank you for your firsthand knowledge. Yes. How would malware in state department systems be used to shut down gas pipelines, which are completely different systems? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 02/20/2015 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. I work in data security and networking and have background in embedded systems. It does not work like that. If it happens, it was orchestrated. Just like Sony. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10456635 Thank you for your firsthand knowledge. Yes. How would malware in state department systems be used to shut down gas pipelines, which are completely different systems? Don't ask me. I don't understand why we cannot rid our system of this stuff. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52424965 United States 02/20/2015 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. I work in data security and networking and have background in embedded systems. It does not work like that. If it happens, it was orchestrated. Just like Sony. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10456635 Thank you for your firsthand knowledge. Yes. How would malware in state department systems be used to shut down gas pipelines, which are completely different systems? Don't ask me. I don't understand why we cannot rid our system of this stuff. If it's severe enough, you reformat all infected systems and rebuild them. The two Saturday Night Live comediennes Jen Psaki and Marie Harf could do that. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 02/20/2015 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. Yes. How would malware in state department systems be used to shut down gas pipelines, which are completely different systems? Don't ask me. I don't understand why we cannot rid our system of this stuff. If it's severe enough, you reformat all infected systems and rebuild them. The two Saturday Night Live comediennes Jen Psaki and Marie Harf could do that. Yeah, we always have Marie Harf. I don't know why I am worried. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52424965 United States 02/20/2015 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. Yes. How would malware in state department systems be used to shut down gas pipelines, which are completely different systems? Don't ask me. I don't understand why we cannot rid our system of this stuff. If it's severe enough, you reformat all infected systems and rebuild them. The two Saturday Night Live comediennes Jen Psaki and Marie Harf could do that. But maybe the Russians infected the hard drive firmware. Might have to trash the old servers. I'm not really familiar with firmware infections. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52424965 United States 02/20/2015 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52424965 Yes. How would malware in state department systems be used to shut down gas pipelines, which are completely different systems? Don't ask me. I don't understand why we cannot rid our system of this stuff. If it's severe enough, you reformat all infected systems and rebuild them. The two Saturday Night Live comediennes Jen Psaki and Marie Harf could do that. Yeah, we always have Marie Harf. I don't know why I am worried. Every time I see one of those silly girls, I keep expecting them to shout out, "Live from New York, it's ..." |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 02/20/2015 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52424965 Yes. How would malware in state department systems be used to shut down gas pipelines, which are completely different systems? Don't ask me. I don't understand why we cannot rid our system of this stuff. If it's severe enough, you reformat all infected systems and rebuild them. The two Saturday Night Live comediennes Jen Psaki and Marie Harf could do that. But maybe the Russians infected the hard drive firmware. Might have to trash the old servers. I'm not really familiar with firmware infections. Wow, I have never heard of that. Surely someone in the US has the knowledge to handle this. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 02/20/2015 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. ... Quoting: Mountain Woman Don't ask me. I don't understand why we cannot rid our system of this stuff. If it's severe enough, you reformat all infected systems and rebuild them. The two Saturday Night Live comediennes Jen Psaki and Marie Harf could do that. Yeah, we always have Marie Harf. I don't know why I am worried. Every time I see one of those silly girls, I keep expecting them to shout out, "Live from New York, it's ..." Yeah, so true! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5597618 Switzerland 02/20/2015 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. There are ways. Everything is so interconnected, it wouldn't take much to throw a wrench into the gears. Most people say "my water still flows during a power outage". Let's look at that on a larger scale. If the power goes out, the electric pumps that are pumping water into the tower stop pumping. Once the tower runs dry, the water presure will drop to zero & no water comes out of your faucet. Yeah, but the towers have a diesel backup pump. Yes, but do they have the fuel stored up to run those backup pumps? If not they need to run to the gas station & guess what? The fuel pumps run on electricity. No diesel = no water from the faucet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52424965 United States 02/20/2015 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. There are ways. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5597618 Everything is so interconnected, it wouldn't take much to throw a wrench into the gears. Most people say "my water still flows during a power outage". Let's look at that on a larger scale. If the power goes out, the electric pumps that are pumping water into the tower stop pumping. Once the tower runs dry, the water presure will drop to zero & no water comes out of your faucet. Yeah, but the towers have a diesel backup pump. Yes, but do they have the fuel stored up to run those backup pumps? If not they need to run to the gas station & guess what? The fuel pumps run on electricity. No diesel = no water from the faucet. In the so-called Internet of Things, everyone is vulnerable. The USSA is vulnerable. Russia is vulnerable. China is vulnerable. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52424965 United States 02/20/2015 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52424965 If it's severe enough, you reformat all infected systems and rebuild them. The two Saturday Night Live comediennes Jen Psaki and Marie Harf could do that. Yeah, we always have Marie Harf. I don't know why I am worried. Every time I see one of those silly girls, I keep expecting them to shout out, "Live from New York, it's ..." Yeah, so true! They are both so unprofessional. Marie Harf should be working the cosmetics counter at Macy's. Jen Psaki should be a low level bureaucrat for the DMV. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 02/20/2015 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. There are ways. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5597618 Everything is so interconnected, it wouldn't take much to throw a wrench into the gears. Most people say "my water still flows during a power outage". Let's look at that on a larger scale. If the power goes out, the electric pumps that are pumping water into the tower stop pumping. Once the tower runs dry, the water presure will drop to zero & no water comes out of your faucet. Yeah, but the towers have a diesel backup pump. Yes, but do they have the fuel stored up to run those backup pumps? If not they need to run to the gas station & guess what? The fuel pumps run on electricity. No diesel = no water from the faucet. Very well explained. Thank you. We are really in a very fragile system. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 02/20/2015 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. Every time I see one of those silly girls, I keep expecting them to shout out, "Live from New York, it's ..." Yeah, so true! They are both so unprofessional. Marie Harf should be working the cosmetics counter at Macy's. Jen Psaki should be a low level bureaucrat for the DMV. That's the Obama administration for you. |
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User ID: 53703796 United States 02/20/2015 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. There are ways. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5597618 Everything is so interconnected, it wouldn't take much to throw a wrench into the gears. Most people say "my water still flows during a power outage". Let's look at that on a larger scale. If the power goes out, the electric pumps that are pumping water into the tower stop pumping. Once the tower runs dry, the water presure will drop to zero & no water comes out of your faucet. Yeah, but the towers have a diesel backup pump. Yes, but do they have the fuel stored up to run those backup pumps? If not they need to run to the gas station & guess what? The fuel pumps run on electricity. No diesel = no water from the faucet. Very well explained. Thank you. We are really in a very fragile system. No...these systems are not that interconnected...you can take down a server and the plants would work just fine. You would have to have a working knowledge of many stand alone controllers. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 02/20/2015 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. There are ways. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5597618 Everything is so interconnected, it wouldn't take much to throw a wrench into the gears. Most people say "my water still flows during a power outage". Let's look at that on a larger scale. If the power goes out, the electric pumps that are pumping water into the tower stop pumping. Once the tower runs dry, the water presure will drop to zero & no water comes out of your faucet. Yeah, but the towers have a diesel backup pump. Yes, but do they have the fuel stored up to run those backup pumps? If not they need to run to the gas station & guess what? The fuel pumps run on electricity. No diesel = no water from the faucet. Very well explained. Thank you. We are really in a very fragile system. No...these systems are not that interconnected...you can take down a server and the plants would work just fine. You would have to have a working knowledge of many stand alone controllers. Explain, "stand alone controllers." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64456080 United States 02/20/2015 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. [link to thehill.com] Quoting: Mountain Woman Three months ago, our State Department had a serious cyber breach. And today, they are powerless to rid the system of Russian malware that could shutdown our gas pipelines, wind turbines, and power plants. We seem to be sitting ducks. When will Russia decide to show their power by shutting down a power plant? Why can we not rid our system of this malware? Why? FROM ARTICLE: Exactly which portions of the State Department network are still infiltrated is unclear. The department continues to take portions of its network, such as remote email access, offline in attempts to eradicate the cyber crooks. Russian hackers are seen as one of the most consistent threat to U.S. networks. Not only are they thought to be behind the State Department and White House breaches, reports show Russians have infiltrated most of the U.S. critical infrastructure. It’s believed Russians have planted malware that could allow them to attack anything from gas pipelines, to wind turbines, to power plants. The government has yet to confirm this, though. At a December hearing, National Security Agency Director Michael Rogers acknowledged that China and “one or two” other countries are sitting on U.S. networks. The other countries are likely Russia and Iran bullshit, they dont know who or if any because they should be able to remove. so they can't see it and can't find it but they know its there adn it was the russians? doubt it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67975989 United States 02/20/2015 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. They announced these "FACTS" from our trustworthy gubernment because they knew the truth was coming out about the NSA corruption of ALL HARD DRIVES ON ALL COMPUTERS. Their RUSSIA is the devil show is old, tired and full of NSA bullshit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10456635 United States 02/20/2015 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. There are ways. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5597618 Everything is so interconnected, it wouldn't take much to throw a wrench into the gears. Most people say "my water still flows during a power outage". Let's look at that on a larger scale. If the power goes out, the electric pumps that are pumping water into the tower stop pumping. Once the tower runs dry, the water presure will drop to zero & no water comes out of your faucet. Yeah, but the towers have a diesel backup pump. Yes, but do they have the fuel stored up to run those backup pumps? If not they need to run to the gas station & guess what? The fuel pumps run on electricity. No diesel = no water from the faucet. Very well explained. Thank you. We are really in a very fragile system. No...these systems are not that interconnected...you can take down a server and the plants would work just fine. You would have to have a working knowledge of many stand alone controllers. Explain, "stand alone controllers." Not everything is connected to the internet. Unfortunately we are sliding down this path of connecting everything (internet of everything) but there are critical things that will never be reached on the web) They can only be compromised locally or via malware delivered locally. This is what gates with guys with guns are for as well as access levels and clearances ETC. Some embedded systems don't run an OS that can be compromised (hard programmed controller), you have to practically reprogram the module, I hope someone would have stopped you at the gate before this happens. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36998602 United States 02/20/2015 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Hackers Have Planted MALWARE That Could Shutdown Our Gas Pipelines, Wind Turbines, And Power Plants - STATE DEPARTMENT Powerless. Why do we not have a gif...I think they are called that...of John McCain dancing and cavorting?? I would use it to show how happy he is that we are close to a good ole Nuke fest. |
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