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Why Astral Projection is not evil and something you should pursue if you want to learn about your true self.

 
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Why Astral Projection is not evil and something you should pursue if you want to learn about your true self.
This is my rebuttle against people infected with a thought-disease known as belief and fear. Having "astral projected" since birth, meaning even at the age of two years old, leaving the body was part of my experience package. There are gaps in my life where I don't consciously engage this but during the 42 years, I have easily had over 4,000 OBEs and clocked many many more hours in that state of existence. What I am going to share is based on experience and knowledge rather than imagination, fear and belief.

To fully understand what astral projection is, I have to completely turn this upside down on it's head and dispel all the myths and ignorant superstitions such as the silver chord which is total bunk. I will reveal things that as far as I am aware, no one else is talking about with regards to this experience so there will be a fresh perspective on this state.

What is the most fundamental role of astral projection? You are becoming fully conscious and awake in a state when your body is fully physically asleep. This is the mind-awake/body-asleep state (as per The Monroe Institute [TMI]) and is consciousness during physical sleep. The measurement of how conscious you are will relate back to you in your own self-realization and self-awareness during that wakefulness in that state.

Where and what is this “State” that you are in? The “Astral” state is a non-physical reality interface that is composed of thought. Instead of atoms to describe the content in that state, you have thought describing the content and I will elaborate how and why this is later.

The “Astral” state is an “interface” to information. It is allowing you to access a broad spectrum (astronomical spectrum) of information – relative to yourself. For example in the classical out-of-body experience where you can stand at the edge of your bed and observe your body. You are relative to the body you are looking at.

If you venture out and explore your house, or walk down the block in your neighborhood... all of those descriptors in the content are relative to your waking life experiences. Bear in mind, you are still in non-physical reality space, you are still accessing information but the information you are accessing is in proximity to your physical life so the details relay that content.

In this state however, you might see things that are not supposed to be there in the physical. James Randi had one out-of-body experience where he based his entire premise that it's not actually leaving your body because he saw objects that were not in the physical system. But then in only having one and then never exploring this mechanic one would be left with a very limited and ignorant perspective of this process.

You can enter into the astral state, and the content can relay details relative to your physical life accurately and even details you did not physically know. When you get into information outside your waking knowledge and experiences where you can later verify you then have veridical evidence. Veridical evidence is when you can validate something from subjective experience linked to the objective world.

What you are traversing however is a field of information and this field has many bands of information like tuning in different channels on a TV station or radio. If you pick up static, you will have interference which will produce non-physical artifacts in the content thus see things that are not supposed to be their. We call that “noise”. Noise comes when your ability to perceive is hindered even slightly and you pick up other details from this information bleed between bands.

Non-physical information is not limited to physical details. Being in this astral state having access through this interface to more than physical reality details now allows you to access other non-physical reality bands. It is like a webrowser to the internet of yourself. This means you can access memories, fears, fantasies, beliefs and everything you can imagine can describe itself in the content as part of a recursive feedback mechanism. The possibilities for experience derived content are seemingly infinite and astronomical.

So before we get to all of the possibilities we need to look at the mechanics of this state so you can understand the process of how this information becomes content relative to your self. And I cannot see how just being entangled in the content ignorant of the processes behind the content will benefit you – as simply being at the mercy of the content can leave you stuck in the mud with your growth opportunities. What produces the content in a non-physical mind-generated thought-based reality interface.

This interface applies not just to Astral information, but dream and even physical information. This is an absolute fundamental component of you as an aware, intelligent entity having the experiences with yourself through this interface.

The Recursive-Feedback Interface

To find what is similar in everything we experience we need to start at what is similar between physical, non-physical, astral, dreaming, lucid dreaming, near-death-experiences, entheogens and anything that bubbles up into your awareness allowing you to have an observation of information and experience with it.

The analogy is quite simple. A computer has information, but that information is meaningless until it is rendered into a user-interface on a computer screen so that you, the user can interact with that data. A computer has a physical computer screen composed of a two-dimensional grid of pixels by which to render the data into a view. Similar to a computer screen, but much more evolved and complex is the feedback interface that your are rendering information into a view.

This feedback interface is a virtual computer screen which is far more immersive in that it renders not just visual feedback, but sound, touch, taste, smell, emotions, space --- the whole experience package. It is a virtual reality simulator that the mind uses as a virtual “computer screen” but is more like a holodeck.

When you are awake, the same “screen” is being used to render your physical senses into a virtual reality interface that allows you, the mind to interact with the rendered information relative to physical reality, and interact with physical reality through the body. The content is described by sensory feedback from the objective world as a type of datastream and the brain has to process this information and render the information into a view.

When you fall asleep, the physical senses no longer send information to this recursive feedback interface and thought takes over. It's very simple. Thoughts start to program this interface as the datastream. Thus the interface now becomes recursive (that your thoughts recursively program the content and then feedback in the rendered interface).

We are most commonly familiar with dreaming which is something you can see in action as thought generating content on this recursive feedback interface. When you are sleeping, and the physical senses no longer provide the datastream, the interface relays thoughts (conscious and unconscious) as the datastream. It is a “thought reactive” interface reacting to thoughts forming the content of the experience.

That is probably the most important detail you should come to understand. For the interface itself is neutral – what you think however is potentially endless thus anything you believe, desire, imagine and fear can suddenly translate into some type of experience. But regardless of the “content”, the underling mechanics of thoughts creating a datastream that is then rendered into a view is universal.

So what differentiates our Physical Reality from a non-lucid dream, to a lucid dream, to an Astral experience, to a Near-Death experience or some drug induced hallucination? Simply the information you are rendering. The data. So reduce everything down to information as the source of content.

As this interface is a thought-reactive feedback loop – what you believe will render content relative to your belief-system. If you drag in beliefs and fears when you become conscious when the body falls asleep. The content will be influenced relative to you, and your beliefs. So right there you can see that the quality of the content can have a lot of “noise” that you drag in which could impair you with fears or irrational beliefs as this state can render even “Santa Clause” as if he was real. You an see Jesus, Devils, Allah, Flying Spaghetti Monsters rendered as if real in the non-physical thought-reactive canvas not knowing that you are producing this content unconsciously – until you learn that is why these archetypes come into play relative to yourself. You simply believe in them and project that belief into the canas.

Understanding that thought drives and influences the content in this recursive-feedback interface is again a universal law you should be aware of. This is also why in NDE experiences people with a religious belief-system often find that they encounter entities relative to their religious faith where others encounter something else. The inconsistency of information and how it “validates” one persons faith simply follows the law that thought creates content in non-physical reality. This applies to out-of-body experiences, dreaming, near death experiences and everything in that state.

Thought is king. It is the programming language and can be heavily burdened by beliefs and fears. These beliefs and fears produce “noise” which distorts the opportunity with limited “belief-fulfillment” renderings – so to a simple mind it would validate they were right in their belief-system never to question the fact they are projecting their beliefs into a thought-reactive canvas that yields the quality of content rendered therein.

The same applies to any limiting beliefs for example you can go into non-physical space and believe you cannot fly so you walk. Or you believe you can fly so you don't teleport. The constraints you impose on yourself will limit the experience relative to you. This is your backyard and it can be endless opportunity or a stick in the mud experience. But these things you can only learn if you repeat this process of being conscious during sleep and exploring every faucet of yourself in that state.

First and foremost the recursive-feedback interface is what yields all experiences and the datastream you are engaging describes the content rendered on that interface. This applies to all from physical to non-physical, your experiences are derived from information that is rendered into a view. Please try to see this interface in all of your experiences and understand what it is and why it's important before you place value into the content that is rendered there as a secondary meme.

What differentiates a lucid dream, from an astral experience?

If your body is asleep, and you become conscious you are now in non-physical reality implicitly. If you wonder why you can go from a lucid dream to an out-of-body state and vice-versa it is because you are already in this space.

With a lucid dream, you generally bypass the sensation of leaving the body and enter into a band of the datastream that relates to dream content. When you go astral, you will have all the sensations of leaving the body and the exit will usually be in what the Monroe Institute [TMI] calls Local 1 or physical reality so you can see your body et all. You would be in a focus 12 on TMI's awareness scale. Of which TMI has up to 49 focus states (which again represent bands of information relative to different aspects of yourself distributed into a full spectrum of information representing the datastreams available).

You can read the list of TMI focus states here: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Bhuddists also have Planes of Existence which fit in somewhat with TMI's table but again the belief-system territories likely provide a lot of these insights: [link to www.accesstoinsight.org]

In my reduction, you are simply accessing information relative to yourself as you are exploring yourself – not as a human being – but as a multidimensional cosmic entity which believe it or not is like a Universe of yourself, within yourself. Your own inner-universe and inner-reality. Why this is so; is everything you are exposed to in these states are “relative” to yourself as you are always in those experiences observing them.

Now in this mind-awake/body-asleep state how you direct your intent will yield what direction you take in this astronomical database of experiences. It will determine what datastream you are going to download and render from within you. If it's Local 1 information you can explore physical reality data and will render these physical details. If you shift focus the information can relay non-physical reality information which touches into TMI's focus states so you can begin encounter after-life data. (Focus 23-26 belief-system territories).

Ultimately you want to strip away as much belief and fear from this inner journey if you are going to use this tool to learn about yourself beyond the human constraints imposed on you. You want to become aware of how you produce “noise” that can interfere with the quality of information you are accessing.

Now why is there all of these supposed planes of existence or focus states reported by others who have explored astral space? Such as the Akashic Records (which again represents the database) or heavens, hells and other belief-system territories?

There is each of us as an “individual” but part of a collective which Carl Jung dubbed the “Collective Unconscious” in his study of dreams finding out that people in different parts of the world still had the same dream archtypes as others which for a dream to be entirely subjective he found this strange so assumed there is some type of collective unconscious that we access during dreaming.

TMI covers this also but they describe it in Focus 49 or a “sea of I-there clusters” which I've encountered prior to coming into human life as well as re-encountered in my astral travels. So let's get really technical about the “I-There” that TMI talks about as this quality is something that creates a type of dualism in how you will perceive you as this human part, and you as a resident in this non-physical system existing outside the constraints of physical limitation.

When Robert A. Monroe encountered an “I-There” he described it as an INSPEC or Intelligent Species that existed in this astral state. That they often appear as beings of light. They are very knowledgeable about that state and showed Monroe lots of deep insights into himself. Later, Monroe realized that this is what he was becoming or evolving into and started taking on the role of the INSPEC. I've encountered this also so what I will relay will be based on my experiences not Monroe's.

Remember that everything you experience there is “relative” to yourself, this applies to the INSPEC and “Other” that you encounter in that state. The being of light encounters that I have had actually started before this life as I remember existing before which is why this life I've explored the astral state so extensively – to get a better handle of what has happened to lately.

It was a being of light that intercepted me from a previous life, and assisted me through that transition and then sent me back into this life. As a child, I would go out of body (age 2-5) and return to this INSPEC or being of light and argue with it about being sent back. Had lots of child hood encounters with it until I gradually accepted my new life and normalized as a child dimming such experiences (but not forgetting them).

It would be in my teenage years by the time that I was 16 that I would return again to this being-of-light but not to fight with it over being sent back, rather to learn from it. After all, I was more mature and curious rather than full of fear. And teach it did. For example it showed me how thought formed dream experiences in every granular detail from the initial spatially geometric mesh to the overlay and animation of sequences to the final rendered product of a vivid sensory dream. Which you might think is trivial at first until it did something similar with a precognitive dream which later came true. So mind blowing information and experiences – relative to myself.

As I already stood in a sea of “I-there” before this life and I cover that in another thread I can just link that thread for further details: Thread: Standing in the Lake of Souls - Prelife Memory and the Afterlife. I was also privileged to see that these “souls” were evolving into beings-of-light obtaining a vast amount of self-control and knowledge through life experiences. That there was an evolutionary process that may lead to an actual graduation from human experience.

Ultimately in my journey I would come to the epiphany with this being that it was not someone else and I finally recognized it as “myself” when that bridge was crossed I literally merged with that part of myself rather then creating this “dualism” between a “I-there” and an “I-here” or a higher-self and a lower-self which in Gnosticism would represent the Daemon/Eidolon relationship.

Us as this evolved being is part of a non-local/non-linear awareness and it will be this part of you recursively traversing as if through time/space to guide you forward. At first you might believe it to be “other” or not “yourself” until such point that you evolve and naturally grow-up into this future self.

You will find also that you are projecting your awareness from this sea of "I-there" cluster into this body, so I wanted to note that astral projection and leaving the body is a bit of a myth, you are actually projecting into the body as the constant and projecting you awareness elsewhere when you dream or go OBE.

That is all a natural part of our evolutionary process as an awareness in this larger reality system. Other important details which is why I reduce everything back down to datastreams rendered on this interface comes to the role that thought plays in this collective sea of intelligent species making up the Jungian collective unconscious. (Which you can make conscious and should).

In non-physical space, thought is king. Our dreams are a language communicating from our waking-self and our unconscious mind (which you need to make conscious). The language of thought in non-physical space composes far beyond your waking verbal thinking such as words. Understanding thought beyond words is easy and I'll step-by-step show you how you already speak in this language and always have, and always will. Robert A. Monroe called it “NVC” or non-verbal communication but in another thread I do agree it's more than that as too many people confuse what Robert is describing as NVC as body language which it absolutely is not. It is a higher-order universal language that produces dream “virtual realities” in how it is communicating. It is like speaking in the language of reality itself.

I cover it in this thread: Thread: Non-Verbal Communication - The Universal Language

If you listen to your inner-monologue of your voice reading this text. That is a small example of thought simulating sound as your inner voice.

If you imagine an apple and see a faint apple in your mind, that is thought simulating visual objects.

This language demonstrates our ability to dream where our thoughts become not only sounds, visual objects, tactile feedback, taste, touch but “everything” that composes the dream. This ability to think where you can see a dream as the end-result of that thought process is how we communicate more advanced experiences to our-self.

Dreaming is an example of this ability to communicate in advance dream simulations between your waking conscious self and your much larger (normally unconscious self). And this language is also used more at the INSPEC level so the being-of-light aka you at a more advanced and evolved level uses this language to communicate other parts of itself.

This language is what encodes the datastream which you then render as your dream/astral/NDE ie... all experiences. If you can go there, it is also what you are rendering right now to produce your physical reality experience. It is what the sea of “I-there” is doing for us as our little human avatars. Acting like the server (super-computer of the Universe) sending datastreams of thought to aspects of itself to render as an experience be it: Physical/Non-Physical/Other... all reality.

I cover some of those points in these threads:

Thread: You are having a Human Experience.
Thread: You are an Avatar in a Simulated Virtual Reality Role-Playing Game
Thread: Why Dreams are a type of reality and how do we create them?

So you see... by going “Astral” or being conscious during sleep, you have an opportunity to learn about yourself not as a human being but as your true self which far greater than the limits of your own imagination. It's worth knowing who and what you really are in the big picture, and astral projection is a tool for “self-exploration”. Like any tool, you can learn from it if that is what you desire.

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you are wrong. Astro projection is at the sub-conscious level. Nature has forbidden us direct access to it so why would you think astro projection is acceptable to the universe? You are trying to access the akashic records and change to course that the universe has laid out. You will become an enemy. I speak from experience.
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you are wrong. Astro projection is at the sub-conscious level. Nature has forbidden us direct access to it so why would you think astro projection is acceptable to the universe? You are trying to access the akashic records and change to course that the universe has laid out. You will become an enemy. I speak from experience.
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Sounds like you talk from fear and limited experience with a nice handicap of beliefs that have gotten in the way.

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yep, you ARE wrong, and unfortunately your genetics were manipulated with before birth, to encourage you to believe that Astral projection is real ---- in other words, a realm outside of your MIND ...

you can NOT share your experiences in the AP with others because they ONLY exist IN YOUR MIND ... you have not "left your body" - that is a figment of your imagination - the AP is a "world" withIN the realms of the Human Mind system created to make you DEPENDENT upon others and to suppress the development of YOUR consciousness - that uses your enlarged ego to satisfy your personal desire to be seen as someone "Special" ... and you are --- a special kind of stupid

because it is tied to the emotion system, your "feelings" and senses of the Human Instrument are triggered, and you BELIEVE that your experiences are real ... but they are not... in truth, you are right HERE, always have been and always will be, because there is no place else for you to go - until your consciousness is fully developed, and you have transformed your present state of being


you may BELIEVE anything you want - but it doesn't make it true ... obviously you are the one with a mental diseases - because the AP is NOT real - except in YOUR mind.
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When I try astral project for some reason I always get stuck half way out....
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yep, you ARE wrong, and unfortunately your genetics were manipulated with before birth, to encourage you to believe that Astral projection is real ---- in other words, a realm outside of your MIND ...

you can NOT share your experiences in the AP with others because they ONLY exist IN YOUR MIND ... you have not "left your body" - that is a figment of your imagination - the AP is a "world" withIN the realms of the Human Mind system created to make you DEPENDENT upon others and to suppress the development of YOUR consciousness - that uses your enlarged ego to satisfy your personal desire to be seen as someone "Special" ... and you are --- a special kind of stupid

because it is tied to the emotion system, your "feelings" and senses of the Human Instrument are triggered, and you BELIEVE that your experiences are real ... but they are not... in truth, you are right HERE, always have been and always will be, because there is no place else for you to go - until your consciousness is fully developed, and you have transformed your present state of being


you may BELIEVE anything you want - but it doesn't make it true ... obviously you are the one with a mental diseases - because the AP is NOT real - except in YOUR mind.
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Another arrogant atheistard.
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astral projection= channeling the netherword..

quit doing it. stop trying to channel the demons
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When I try astral project for some reason I always get stuck half way out....
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have u tried unbolting the trap door first.. the one with the latch
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When I try astral project for some reason I always get stuck half way out....
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What is happening in your initial process, are you finding that you are stretching and how asleep/relaxed is the body?

What kind of techniques are you using?
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yep, you ARE wrong, and unfortunately your genetics were manipulated with before birth, to encourage you to believe that Astral projection is real ---- in other words, a realm outside of your MIND ...

you can NOT share your experiences in the AP with others because they ONLY exist IN YOUR MIND ... you have not "left your body" - that is a figment of your imagination - the AP is a "world" withIN the realms of the Human Mind system created to make you DEPENDENT upon others and to suppress the development of YOUR consciousness - that uses your enlarged ego to satisfy your personal desire to be seen as someone "Special" ... and you are --- a special kind of stupid

because it is tied to the emotion system, your "feelings" and senses of the Human Instrument are triggered, and you BELIEVE that your experiences are real ... but they are not... in truth, you are right HERE, always have been and always will be, because there is no place else for you to go - until your consciousness is fully developed, and you have transformed your present state of being


you may BELIEVE anything you want - but it doesn't make it true ... obviously you are the one with a mental diseases - because the AP is NOT real - except in YOUR mind.
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Truth. this thread is yet another lame attempt by the OP to promote a false idea.
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Thank you. That sounds exactly like Monroe describes his experiences in his books, except for one thing. If I recall correctly, Monroe had an experience of something hanging onto his back. He didn't know what it was till finally he realized it was the "cord." I'm not sure whether he called it the silver cord or not. It's been so many years ago that I read his books.

"That there was an evolutionary process that may lead to an actual graduation from human experience."


According to Monroe, we all eventually graduate.

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yep, you ARE wrong, and unfortunately your genetics were manipulated with before birth, to encourage you to believe that Astral projection is real ---- in other words, a realm outside of your MIND ...

you can NOT share your experiences in the AP with others because they ONLY exist IN YOUR MIND ... you have not "left your body" - that is a figment of your imagination - the AP is a "world" withIN the realms of the Human Mind system created to make you DEPENDENT upon others and to suppress the development of YOUR consciousness - that uses your enlarged ego to satisfy your personal desire to be seen as someone "Special" ... and you are --- a special kind of stupid

because it is tied to the emotion system, your "feelings" and senses of the Human Instrument are triggered, and you BELIEVE that your experiences are real ... but they are not... in truth, you are right HERE, always have been and always will be, because there is no place else for you to go - until your consciousness is fully developed, and you have transformed your present state of being


you may BELIEVE anything you want - but it doesn't make it true ... obviously you are the one with a mental diseases - because the AP is NOT real - except in YOUR mind.
 Quoting: Sunny Daze


Another arrogant atheistard.
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you WISH, you wannabe guru ... but people have been trying and predictably FAILED for thousands of years to prove that AP is anything other than a figment of their OWN imagination ... tapping into abilities that we all have - summed up in the statement "what the mind of man can concieve, it can achieve" ... except what is achieved in the AP - is not MANIFESTED in the real world ...

like I said, it MAKES you DEPENDENT upon un-embodied beings who were created to misdirect you - and keep you Ignorant of your full potential, and their idenitity - because they live in the realms of your mind, they can take on the appearance of anyone you desire to "see" - and project anything you desire to see ... but It isn't real ... it doesn't exist outside of your mind - and you know it

if it was real, then you would have won the lottery last week
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Yo Op. Tell me honestly, how sure are you of your definition of the astral?
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you are wrong. Astro projection is at the sub-conscious level. Nature has forbidden us direct access to it so why would you think astro projection is acceptable to the universe? You are trying to access the akashic records and change to course that the universe has laid out. You will become an enemy. I speak from experience.
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How so? If nature had actually "forbidden" it as you call it, then why are people able to do it? I'm afraid, that's your FEAR speaking and you are regurgitating something you were taught by others.
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yep, you ARE wrong, and unfortunately your genetics were manipulated with before birth, to encourage you to believe that Astral projection is real ---- in other words, a realm outside of your MIND ...

you can NOT share your experiences in the AP with others because they ONLY exist IN YOUR MIND ... you have not "left your body" - that is a figment of your imagination - the AP is a "world" withIN the realms of the Human Mind system created to make you DEPENDENT upon others and to suppress the development of YOUR consciousness - that uses your enlarged ego to satisfy your personal desire to be seen as someone "Special" ... and you are --- a special kind of stupid

because it is tied to the emotion system, your "feelings" and senses of the Human Instrument are triggered, and you BELIEVE that your experiences are real ... but they are not... in truth, you are right HERE, always have been and always will be, because there is no place else for you to go - until your consciousness is fully developed, and you have transformed your present state of being


you may BELIEVE anything you want - but it doesn't make it true ... obviously you are the one with a mental diseases - because the AP is NOT real - except in YOUR mind.
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And you talk from experience, do you? Or are you spewing crap out of your mouth that you have been taught by others?
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astral projection= channeling the netherword..

quit doing it. stop trying to channel the demons
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Who told you that? Did you met any demons yourself, or are you just projecting your own FEARS?
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Better hope the other ones don't get you when you're floating around out there.
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yep, you ARE wrong, and unfortunately your genetics were manipulated with before birth, to encourage you to believe that Astral projection is real ---- in other words, a realm outside of your MIND ...

you can NOT share your experiences in the AP with others because they ONLY exist IN YOUR MIND ... you have not "left your body" - that is a figment of your imagination - the AP is a "world" withIN the realms of the Human Mind system created to make you DEPENDENT upon others and to suppress the development of YOUR consciousness - that uses your enlarged ego to satisfy your personal desire to be seen as someone "Special" ... and you are --- a special kind of stupid

because it is tied to the emotion system, your "feelings" and senses of the Human Instrument are triggered, and you BELIEVE that your experiences are real ... but they are not... in truth, you are right HERE, always have been and always will be, because there is no place else for you to go - until your consciousness is fully developed, and you have transformed your present state of being


you may BELIEVE anything you want - but it doesn't make it true ... obviously you are the one with a mental diseases - because the AP is NOT real - except in YOUR mind.
 Quoting: Sunny Daze


And you talk from experience, do you? Or are you spewing crap out of your mouth that you have been taught by others?
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These trolls are clueless. They just cannot imagine that there is not only the physical body but many others, although unreachable by common means and thats where it gets interesting. Truth is, you cannot do something like astral projection without WANTING it. You need to deliberately make the move, efforts, intentions to achieve it. So its obvious that those only able to doubt and criticize will never have a chance.

The astral is a full world different from the physical but as enormous. It got its own rules and is infinite. Its not in your mind, but your mind can get there. Its akin to a parallel dimension and its usefulness is nothing short of incredible.
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yep, you ARE wrong, and unfortunately your genetics were manipulated with before birth, to encourage you to believe that Astral projection is real ---- in other words, a realm outside of your MIND ...

you can NOT share your experiences in the AP with others because they ONLY exist IN YOUR MIND ... you have not "left your body" - that is a figment of your imagination - the AP is a "world" withIN the realms of the Human Mind system created to make you DEPENDENT upon others and to suppress the development of YOUR consciousness - that uses your enlarged ego to satisfy your personal desire to be seen as someone "Special" ... and you are --- a special kind of stupid

because it is tied to the emotion system, your "feelings" and senses of the Human Instrument are triggered, and you BELIEVE that your experiences are real ... but they are not... in truth, you are right HERE, always have been and always will be, because there is no place else for you to go - until your consciousness is fully developed, and you have transformed your present state of being


you may BELIEVE anything you want - but it doesn't make it true ... obviously you are the one with a mental diseases - because the AP is NOT real - except in YOUR mind.
 Quoting: Sunny Daze





Truth. this thread is yet another lame attempt by the OP to promote a false idea.
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Explain how this is an "idea" when it is an actual experience? To have an "idea" means it has not yet manifested, while an experience has already manifested. I like how you people are so judgmental and yet know nothing about it other than what you've been told, most likely with religious overtones.
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astral projection= channeling the netherword..

quit doing it. stop trying to channel the demons
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Who told you that? Did you met any demons yourself, or are you just projecting your own FEARS?
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but its funny tho. OP you should remove the word "evil" from your title and it will get rid of most religiontards.. A pity but seems they are only attracted to negative things, poor bastards... xd
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rmv
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yep, you ARE wrong, and unfortunately your genetics were manipulated with before birth, to encourage you to believe that Astral projection is real ---- in other words, a realm outside of your MIND ...

you can NOT share your experiences in the AP with others because they ONLY exist IN YOUR MIND ... you have not "left your body" - that is a figment of your imagination - the AP is a "world" withIN the realms of the Human Mind system created to make you DEPENDENT upon others and to suppress the development of YOUR consciousness - that uses your enlarged ego to satisfy your personal desire to be seen as someone "Special" ... and you are --- a special kind of stupid

because it is tied to the emotion system, your "feelings" and senses of the Human Instrument are triggered, and you BELIEVE that your experiences are real ... but they are not... in truth, you are right HERE, always have been and always will be, because there is no place else for you to go - until your consciousness is fully developed, and you have transformed your present state of being


you may BELIEVE anything you want - but it doesn't make it true ... obviously you are the one with a mental diseases - because the AP is NOT real - except in YOUR mind.
 Quoting: Sunny Daze


the only thing accurate about your statement - "your genetics were altered"...

in our ancient past, astral projection and telepathy was common... it was the discovery of this planet by alien groups in their desire to control this planet and make a slave population, that severely diminished this ability...

a cutting up of the original 12 strand dna down to 2 intact strands, was the major culprit...do you really think what science classify's as junk dna in your system is actually junk??? no, these are remnants of the original 12 strands...

however, in certain individuals, such as the op, the flaw has been overcome... the true natural state of a being is non-physical...society, religion, and people like you, try to steer people away from this knowledge with stupid beLIEfs, and a heavy dose of fear...

congratulations, you are doing your part... now, go join the rest of the slaves...
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like I said, it MAKES you DEPENDENT upon un-embodied beings who were created to misdirect you - and keep you Ignorant of your full potential, and their idenitity - because they live in the realms of your mind, they can take on the appearance of anyone you desire to "see" - and project anything you desire to see ... but It isn't real ... it doesn't exist outside of your mind - and you know it

if it was real, then you would have won the lottery last week
 Quoting: Sunny Daze


So, what goes on in YOUR mind while your physical body is asleep? Just because you can't recall your OBEs, you definitely have them every single night (or whenever your physical body demands rest).
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I think it is fascinating some people live in fear of what is such a natural state of being. Their eyes will be opened eventually and they will be chagrined at how much they missed in life due to their own fears. hf
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when you leave your body, something else can jump in
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:rmv:
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Lol you cant be serious. Honestly your post will be seen as a joke by any real AP practitioner. You are like entangled in thick disgusting tentacles that represent none other than all your bias and false beliefs. And believe me, you are nowhere near the truth. Just a petty delusional broken individual. Ok you dont want to hear it.. iamwith whatever
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nice post!!
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when something else has jumped in, you think it's memories of moving about in the astral realm are yours
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yep, you ARE wrong, and unfortunately your genetics were manipulated with before birth, to encourage you to believe that Astral projection is real ---- in other words, a realm outside of your MIND ...

you can NOT share your experiences in the AP with others because they ONLY exist IN YOUR MIND ... you have not "left your body" - that is a figment of your imagination - the AP is a "world" withIN the realms of the Human Mind system created to make you DEPENDENT upon others and to suppress the development of YOUR consciousness - that uses your enlarged ego to satisfy your personal desire to be seen as someone "Special" ... and you are --- a special kind of stupid

because it is tied to the emotion system, your "feelings" and senses of the Human Instrument are triggered, and you BELIEVE that your experiences are real ... but they are not... in truth, you are right HERE, always have been and always will be, because there is no place else for you to go - until your consciousness is fully developed, and you have transformed your present state of being


you may BELIEVE anything you want - but it doesn't make it true ... obviously you are the one with a mental diseases - because the AP is NOT real - except in YOUR mind.
 Quoting: Sunny Daze


And you talk from experience, do you? Or are you spewing crap out of your mouth that you have been taught by others?
 Quoting: beebee


These trolls are clueless. They just cannot imagine that there is not only the physical body but many others, although unreachable by common means and thats where it gets interesting. Truth is, you cannot do something like astral projection without WANTING it. You need to deliberately make the move, efforts, intentions to achieve it. So its obvious that those only able to doubt and criticize will never have a chance.

The astral is a full world different from the physical but as enormous. It got its own rules and is infinite. Its not in your mind, but your mind can get there. Its akin to a parallel dimension and its usefulness is nothing short of incredible.
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You are right. And they will not know or understand the extent of their ignorance until they themselves start the necessary learning process to move past it. Good luck is all I can say.
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And you talk from experience, do you? Or are you spewing crap out of your mouth that you have been taught by others?
 Quoting: beebee


These trolls are clueless. They just cannot imagine that there is not only the physical body but many others, although unreachable by common means and thats where it gets interesting. Truth is, you cannot do something like astral projection without WANTING it. You need to deliberately make the move, efforts, intentions to achieve it. So its obvious that those only able to doubt and criticize will never have a chance.

The astral is a full world different from the physical but as enormous. It got its own rules and is infinite. Its not in your mind, but your mind can get there. Its akin to a parallel dimension and its usefulness is nothing short of incredible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68277253


Well, Monroe was one of those to whom this happened without any provocation on his part. It just happened. He was terrified of it at first but finally allowed himself to relax and see where it would take him. And what journeys he had!!
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