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Survival Gear - Preparing for Tough Times/Societal Collapse, What you should have to survive.

Keeping in mind, most people have limited Time, Money and Resources this is a wish list.
of course it would be best to have everything you need, in a remote secure location with you and your family, all there with you when the world goes mad, from the Engineered Collapse that the Satanic New World Order has been working to bring about for many years now. If you can't just up and move, and take everything and everyone you care about with you now, this is a list of what you may want to have to get you where you want to be, and live well when you get there.

1)Spiritual - Get Saved(through Jesus Christ)

- Physical, Mental and Skill preparedness -
2)Nutrition - Eat Organic / Detox
3)Strength and Flexibility training
4)Endurance Training
5)Weapons Training
6)Evasion Training
7)Martial Arts
8)Survival Skills
First Aid / Healing - Herbs, Essential Oils, Detox, Pressure Points....
Fire - Friction, Optics, Flint, Compression, Electrical, Tinder, Charcloth...
Shelter - Earth, Cabin, Natural, Tarps, Debris...
Clothing - Natural Fibers for Yarn/Threads, Sewing, Knitting, Weaving, Leather...
Food - Hunting, Gathering, Growing, Preserving methods...
Wood - Making Tools, Furniture, Doors, shutters, and Weapons...
Iron - Refining, Forging, making tools items and weapons...
Clay - Making Pots and useful items
Glass - Making Bottles, Jars and Windows.
=================================
Every Day Carry
Tactical Bag - (Water Resistant)
(stores in top of scout pack)
Knife / Sharpener
.22 Revolver with 200/ammo.
.22 Bore Snake/cleaning kit.
Earplugs
Spare Eyeglasses in Case
Sunglasses in Case
Steel Water Bottle
Flashlight
Extra Charged Batteries
First Aid Kit
Fire Kit
Para-cord 100'
Rain Gear
Leather Gloves
Ceramic Water Filter
Multitool
Maps
Compass
Watch
Scope(spyglass)
Pens/Pencil/Notebook
Small Steel Cook kit
Steel fork and spoon
=================================
Scout Pack -Survival Essentials
.22 Rifle with 2000 rounds min. ammo.
Bow Saw Blades (Steel Nails for Ends)
Small Shovel
Axe / File
Steel Water Bottles x2
Sewing Kit
Fishing Kit
Tool Kit
Cooking Kit
SAS - Survival Manual
Tarp Camo/Brown
4mil clear plastic
Clear Trashbags
Para-cord 200'
Ziplock Bags
Foam Ground Pad
Sleeping Bag/Liner Sheet
Wool Blanket
Seeds(Heirloom Veg/fruit)
Clothes(Socks, Underwear, Hat, Heavy Pants/Shirts, Hat)
Bug Netting / bite proof Cloak with hood /face netting
Food
Bear Bells/Bag/Rope
"Cash"/Silver
Salt
Soap/Laundry Bucket/Plunger
TP/Rags/Spray Bottles
Rechargeable Batteries
Flashlights
Alarm Clock
2way Radios x2
sw/am/fm radio
e-reader / mem cards
Biolite T.E.G. Stove
Solar Charger
Hand Wound Generator
Tablet with Mem Cards
Vitamin/Mineral Supplement
==========================================
--- Breakdown of Kit Contents -----------
==========================================
** First Aid Kit **
Band-Aids
Suture needles/thread
Sterile Gauze
Razor
Locking Forceps
Scissors
Tweezers
Nail Cutter
Activated Charcoal
Cyanee
Garlic
Turmeric
Baking Soda
Iodine
Colloidal Silver
Oil of Oragonal
Gelatin(Healing Joint/Ligaments/Cartilage)
Suction Kit
Ace Bandages
Exacto Knife (mixed blade types)
------------------------------------------
** Fire Kit **
gas lighters
Optical Lens
rod sparker
fire piston
Vaseline Cotton balls
Char Cloth/Tin
------------------------------------------
** Small Stainless Steel Cook kit **
Pan
Pot
Cup
------------------------------------------
** Sewing Kit **
Needles
Heavy Thread many colors
Folding Scissors
Buttons
Eye hooks
Velcro
Elastic
Thimble
Measuring Tape
------------------------------------------
** Fishing Kit **
Line Heavy,Medium,Light
hooks
pliers
Flies/spinners
------------------------------------------
** Tool Kit **
Small Hand Drill/Bits
Screw Driver/Bits
Razor Knife/Blades
Files
Hacksaw/Blades
Crescent Wrench
Adjustable Pliers
Small Pry bar
Forceps(locking)
Side Snips
Wire cutter/stripper
------------------------------------------
** Cooking Kit **
Stainless Steel Pot
Stainless Steel Pan
Bottle Brush
Stainless Steel Cup
Large Stainless Steel Spoon
------------------------------------------
** Clothes **
Hemp, Wool, Denim/Cotton.
------------------------------------------
** Food **
Whey Protein mix, Nuts, Sprouts, Vegetables.
Natural High Fat Foods
No Processed, GMO or Sugar foods
------------------------------------------
===================================================
=== Extra Equipment if Transportation is possible ====
===================================================
** Shelter **
Large Earthen Color Canvas Tarps matching Size of Group
Sandbags
Stovepipe/shroud
Plexiglas
para-cord
Folding Shovel
Axe
Pick
Hand Drill/Bits
Bow Saw
Spare Grommets
Synthetic Tarps
Nails
Hinges/Screws
Straight Saw
Level
Tape measure
Metal Screen
------------------------------------------
** Gun Bag **
Cleaning Kit
Extra Ammo
Extra Rifles/Handguns in .22
and Larger size caliber if you
can afford the space/cost/weight issues.
------------------------------------------
** Weapons Bag **
Slingshot/extra bands
SlingBow
Arrows
Bows / Strings
Quivers
------------------------------------------
** Books **
First Aid / Healing - Herbs, Essential Oils, Detox, Pressure Points....
Fire - Friction, Optics, Flint, Compression, Electrical, Tinder, Charcloth...
Shelter - Earth, Cabin, Natural, Tarps, Debris...
Clothing - Natural Fibers for Yarn/Threads, Sewing, Knitting, Weaving, Leather...
Food - Hunting, Gathering, Growing, Preserving methods...
Wood - Making Tools, Furniture, Doors, shutters, and Weapons...
Iron - Refining, Forging, making tools items and weapons...
Clay - Making Pots and useful items
Glass - Making Bottles, Jars and Windows.
------------------------------------------
** Homesteading Items **
Blacksmithing
Anvil
Hammer
Tongs
Punches
Bellows

** Gun reloading **
Bullet molds
Brass Sizing Dies
Bullet Press Dies
Reloading Press
Smokeless Powder/Data Books
Scale
Calipers

** Fabric Cloths making **
Spinning Wheel/Top
knitting needles.
Crochet forms

** Power Generation **
Solar
Wind
Water
T.E.G.
crank human powered
** Power Storage **
Edison Batteries (Iron/Nickel)
Super Capacitors
Elevated Water Hydro Storage.

** Food Preservation **
Dehydrators
Smokers
Canning (Tadler reusable lids)

** Construction **
Wood Carving tools
Pulleys Block/tackle/Ropes
Nuts/Bolts/Washers

** Water **
Ram Pumps (pump water up using water pressure at head of pump.)
Rope Pumps (pull water up pipe using washers tied/spaced along rope.)
Air Bubble Pumps (elevate water using rising bubbles in vertical pipe.
Store water in Glass,
Stainless Steel, Non BPA Plastic,
Clean Clay fired Pots, Wood Barrels

** Scientific Research **
Books, Microscopes, Telescopes.....

Do Not Take Vaccines, Rx Drugs or the Mark of the Beast.
If you are on Rx Drugs, find a natural alternative to heal your body, and carefully get of the Rx Drugs, some are seriously dangerous to quit cold turkey and must be slowly reduced till you are off of them.
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When the final Taxman comes around, its all taken away.
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Best way to prepare for doom is be at ground zero when the nukes hit...its cheaper...less stressful..and saves a lot of time and trouble..
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I didn't see frozen egg rolls on that list!
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A better solution is to start visiting some of the better prepper sites....

Most have tons of information from people that have been doing this for decades...

Most even have lists, suggestions, sources, spreadsheets, articles, etc....

To get a newbie on the right track

The first "trick" is to start
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start doing something, good advice.

If you can't leave, store, Food, Water and have a way to get more water and purify it. don't advertize you are getting ready. Keep stuff hidden when you can, even your guns and food.
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I have a little orphan annie secret decoder pin.
We are a REPUBLIC.If we can keep it MORAN!
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Bury this huge amount of stuff in the ground somewhere and hope to locate it and dig up later?
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Edgard Caice predicted

( From Russia freedom will come to America)

I hope so because today we lost them ! suicide
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Keep it simple & don't drive yourself nuts.

your NEEDS for survival are:
Shelter
Water
Fire
Food
in that order.

Start by getting
A good knife or machette.
A metal pot to boil water in.
A fire starter (lighter will do).
Cordage (rope, twine, fishing line, etc.)
Brand new fresh bottle of uncented clorox bleach (for water treatment).

And start learning...alot of good SHTF forums out there! Tons of info & ideas just waiting to be read.
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Didn't the Blacks, Muslim Americans, Jews, and Asain Americans buy all that stuff up ???
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I have a flashlight some rope and a roll of tin foil

how will it do>?
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Survival Gear - Preparing for Tough Times/Societal Collapse, What you should have to survive.

Keeping in mind, most people have limited Time, Money and Resources this is a wish list.
of course it would be best to have everything you need, in a remote secure location with you and your family, all there with you when the world goes mad, from the Engineered Collapse that the Satanic New World Order has been working to bring about for many years now. If you can't just up and move, and take everything and everyone you care about with you now, this is a list of what you may want to have to get you where you want to be, and live well when you get there.

1)Spiritual - Get Saved(through Jesus Christ)

- Physical, Mental and Skill preparedness -
2)Nutrition - Eat Organic / Detox
3)Strength and Flexibility training
4)Endurance Training
5)Weapons Training
6)Evasion Training
7)Martial Arts
8)Survival Skills
First Aid / Healing - Herbs, Essential Oils, Detox, Pressure Points....
Fire - Friction, Optics, Flint, Compression, Electrical, Tinder, Charcloth...
Shelter - Earth, Cabin, Natural, Tarps, Debris...
Clothing - Natural Fibers for Yarn/Threads, Sewing, Knitting, Weaving, Leather...
Food - Hunting, Gathering, Growing, Preserving methods...
Wood - Making Tools, Furniture, Doors, shutters, and Weapons...
Iron - Refining, Forging, making tools items and weapons...
Clay - Making Pots and useful items
Glass - Making Bottles, Jars and Windows.
=================================
Every Day Carry
Tactical Bag - (Water Resistant)
(stores in top of scout pack)
Knife / Sharpener
.22 Revolver with 200/ammo.
.22 Bore Snake/cleaning kit.
Earplugs
Spare Eyeglasses in Case
Sunglasses in Case
Steel Water Bottle
Flashlight
Extra Charged Batteries
First Aid Kit
Fire Kit
Para-cord 100'
Rain Gear
Leather Gloves
Ceramic Water Filter
Multitool
Maps
Compass
Watch
Scope(spyglass)
Pens/Pencil/Notebook
Small Steel Cook kit
Steel fork and spoon
=================================
Scout Pack -Survival Essentials
.22 Rifle with 2000 rounds min. ammo.
Bow Saw Blades (Steel Nails for Ends)
Small Shovel
Axe / File
Steel Water Bottles x2
Sewing Kit
Fishing Kit
Tool Kit
Cooking Kit
SAS - Survival Manual
Tarp Camo/Brown
4mil clear plastic
Clear Trashbags
Para-cord 200'
Ziplock Bags
Foam Ground Pad
Sleeping Bag/Liner Sheet
Wool Blanket
Seeds(Heirloom Veg/fruit)
Clothes(Socks, Underwear, Hat, Heavy Pants/Shirts, Hat)
Bug Netting / bite proof Cloak with hood /face netting
Food
Bear Bells/Bag/Rope
"Cash"/Silver
Salt
Soap/Laundry Bucket/Plunger
TP/Rags/Spray Bottles
Rechargeable Batteries
Flashlights
Alarm Clock
2way Radios x2
sw/am/fm radio
e-reader / mem cards
Biolite T.E.G. Stove
Solar Charger
Hand Wound Generator
Tablet with Mem Cards
Vitamin/Mineral Supplement
==========================================
--- Breakdown of Kit Contents -----------
==========================================
** First Aid Kit **
Band-Aids
Suture needles/thread
Sterile Gauze
Razor
Locking Forceps
Scissors
Tweezers
Nail Cutter
Activated Charcoal
Cyanee
Garlic
Turmeric
Baking Soda
Iodine
Colloidal Silver
Oil of Oragonal
Gelatin(Healing Joint/Ligaments/Cartilage)
Suction Kit
Ace Bandages
Exacto Knife (mixed blade types)
------------------------------------------
** Fire Kit **
gas lighters
Optical Lens
rod sparker
fire piston
Vaseline Cotton balls
Char Cloth/Tin
------------------------------------------
** Small Stainless Steel Cook kit **
Pan
Pot
Cup
------------------------------------------
** Sewing Kit **
Needles
Heavy Thread many colors
Folding Scissors
Buttons
Eye hooks
Velcro
Elastic
Thimble
Measuring Tape
------------------------------------------
** Fishing Kit **
Line Heavy,Medium,Light
hooks
pliers
Flies/spinners
------------------------------------------
** Tool Kit **
Small Hand Drill/Bits
Screw Driver/Bits
Razor Knife/Blades
Files
Hacksaw/Blades
Crescent Wrench
Adjustable Pliers
Small Pry bar
Forceps(locking)
Side Snips
Wire cutter/stripper
------------------------------------------
** Cooking Kit **
Stainless Steel Pot
Stainless Steel Pan
Bottle Brush
Stainless Steel Cup
Large Stainless Steel Spoon
------------------------------------------
** Clothes **
Hemp, Wool, Denim/Cotton.
------------------------------------------
** Food **
Whey Protein mix, Nuts, Sprouts, Vegetables.
Natural High Fat Foods
No Processed, GMO or Sugar foods
------------------------------------------
===================================================
=== Extra Equipment if Transportation is possible ====
===================================================
** Shelter **
Large Earthen Color Canvas Tarps matching Size of Group
Sandbags
Stovepipe/shroud
Plexiglas
para-cord
Folding Shovel
Axe
Pick
Hand Drill/Bits
Bow Saw
Spare Grommets
Synthetic Tarps
Nails
Hinges/Screws
Straight Saw
Level
Tape measure
Metal Screen
------------------------------------------
** Gun Bag **
Cleaning Kit
Extra Ammo
Extra Rifles/Handguns in .22
and Larger size caliber if you
can afford the space/cost/weight issues.
------------------------------------------
** Weapons Bag **
Slingshot/extra bands
SlingBow
Arrows
Bows / Strings
Quivers
------------------------------------------
** Books **
First Aid / Healing - Herbs, Essential Oils, Detox, Pressure Points....
Fire - Friction, Optics, Flint, Compression, Electrical, Tinder, Charcloth...
Shelter - Earth, Cabin, Natural, Tarps, Debris...
Clothing - Natural Fibers for Yarn/Threads, Sewing, Knitting, Weaving, Leather...
Food - Hunting, Gathering, Growing, Preserving methods...
Wood - Making Tools, Furniture, Doors, shutters, and Weapons...
Iron - Refining, Forging, making tools items and weapons...
Clay - Making Pots and useful items
Glass - Making Bottles, Jars and Windows.
------------------------------------------
** Homesteading Items **
Blacksmithing
Anvil
Hammer
Tongs
Punches
Bellows

** Gun reloading **
Bullet molds
Brass Sizing Dies
Bullet Press Dies
Reloading Press
Smokeless Powder/Data Books
Scale
Calipers

** Fabric Cloths making **
Spinning Wheel/Top
knitting needles.
Crochet forms

** Power Generation **
Solar
Wind
Water
T.E.G.
crank human powered
** Power Storage **
Edison Batteries (Iron/Nickel)
Super Capacitors
Elevated Water Hydro Storage.

** Food Preservation **
Dehydrators
Smokers
Canning (Tadler reusable lids)

** Construction **
Wood Carving tools
Pulleys Block/tackle/Ropes
Nuts/Bolts/Washers

** Water **
Ram Pumps (pump water up using water pressure at head of pump.)
Rope Pumps (pull water up pipe using washers tied/spaced along rope.)
Air Bubble Pumps (elevate water using rising bubbles in vertical pipe.
Store water in Glass,
Stainless Steel, Non BPA Plastic,
Clean Clay fired Pots, Wood Barrels

** Scientific Research **
Books, Microscopes, Telescopes.....

Do Not Take Vaccines, Rx Drugs or the Mark of the Beast.
If you are on Rx Drugs, find a natural alternative to heal your body, and carefully get of the Rx Drugs, some are seriously dangerous to quit cold turkey and must be slowly reduced till you are off of them.
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When TSHTF the only thing you'll really have is what you can carry.
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Books:
USA Army Survival Manual (FM 21-76)
SAS Survival Guide by Lofty

I figure those two paperbacks cover 99% of the vital info.
We all breathe the same air.
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Always thought it odd that the majority on GLP have little or no interest in prepping. I only visit here for any possible "heads up" on whatnot not mentioned in the news. It's getting pretty difficult with so many BS threads burying the worthy stuff pages back. Obammys minions at work I suppose.
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Always thought it odd that the majority on GLP have little or no interest in prepping. I only visit here for any possible "heads up" on whatnot not mentioned in the news. It's getting pretty difficult with so many BS threads burying the worthy stuff pages back. Obammys minions at work I suppose.
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There's really not that much to be said about prepping.

We've all seen the same basic list of Important Shit To Have When TSHTF 500 times now.

Not as interesting to me as it was 10 years ago.
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Rechargeable batteries?
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Quote:
When TSHTF the only thing you'll really have is what you can carry.

Drag...I got a plastic sled to drag it on (I can carry/drag more that way) :)
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a four wheel garden/yard cart has a much higher weight capacity than your back, and works on the ground without snow, unlike a sled.
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No offense, but "many colors of thread" as part of a sewing kit? This is a very nice OCD list, but the illness in creating it is showing a bit too much. And I've been at it for years...
There is nothing quite as compelling as a bad idea whose time has come...
Thulsa
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Rechargeable batteries?
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And e-reader LMFAOlmao
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All those lists of stuff, great if you have the luxury of sheltering in place. If you have to bug out, stick with what you can carry. Keep it simple. Rugged outer shell garment, under clothing in layers, a canteen cup and canteen, a rugged multi tool like leatherman. A wrist rocket slingshot with extra rubbers (knock a armed bad guy out cold and take his stuff) a flint. Your best tool is your noggin. All the gung ho jonny commando gear won't do you a bit of good with out noggin skills to improvise and turn every day garbage into tools of survival. Plentiful and disposable. Your best bet is learn firecraft, water purification, small animal traps and snares, wild herbs and medicinal plants. Shelter and concealment, hole up by day, move by night, stay off water ways, stay off ridgelines, stay off roads and trails. The clothes on your back, a rucksack with a few essentials. Learn the other stuff you can improvise and fashion things to use and discard as you go. My 2 cents. Taught Survival long ago.
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This thread means well but is comical to people who actually know how to live out doors weeks on end and do so without being seen.
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No offense, but "many colors of thread" as part of a sewing kit? This is a very nice OCD list, but the illness in creating it is showing a bit too much. And I've been at it for years...
 Quoting: Thulsa


Yep!

I always get a kick out these lists, especially when it comes to the amount of weight that everything adds up to. For instance in the list a "Soap/Laundry Bucket/Plunger" in your pack, along with squirt bottles? Really? Far too much space taken up along with weight. And ditch the cotton clothes. They may be comfortable until their wet and hypothermia becomes a threat, not to mention they take forever to dry out. There are FAR better synthetics on the market today that are lighter, more comfortable and more durable. Wear a pair of Levi's soaking wet when it's 50 degrees and raining, then get back to me on how well they worked out.

No offense OP, but your list blows. Far too much weight and far too many items that could be totally left out. Think light and fast. Lumbering around with 80 pounds of crap is a sure way to get no where quick and the old adage of you'll only die tired bears repeating.

Here's my way. First off is knowledge! Read as many books/watch as many videos on survival/backpacking/hunting/defense as you can possibly stomach. Then go DO. Put that knowledge into practice, practice, and more practice until you don't even need to think about what you're doing. Along the way you'll get the gear that's best for YOU and you're situation. There's a vast treasure trove of info on the web about lightweight backpacking, bushcraft and gear for any income and skill level. You can be dirt cheap or have the finest titanium gear made for the big bucks. But in no way is "stuff" a replacement for what's in your head.
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No offense, but "many colors of thread" as part of a sewing kit? This is a very nice OCD list, but the illness in creating it is showing a bit too much. And I've been at it for years...
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Yep!

I always get a kick out these lists, especially when it comes to the amount of weight that everything adds up to. For instance in the list a "Soap/Laundry Bucket/Plunger" in your pack, along with squirt bottles? Really? Far too much space taken up along with weight. And ditch the cotton clothes. They may be comfortable until their wet and hypothermia becomes a threat, not to mention they take forever to dry out. There are FAR better synthetics on the market today that are lighter, more comfortable and more durable. Wear a pair of Levi's soaking wet when it's 50 degrees and raining, then get back to me on how well they worked out.

No offense OP, but your list blows. Far too much weight and far too many items that could be totally left out. Think light and fast. Lumbering around with 80 pounds of crap is a sure way to get no where quick and the old adage of you'll only die tired bears repeating.

Here's my way. First off is knowledge! Read as many books/watch as many videos on survival/backpacking/hunting/defense as you can possibly stomach. Then go DO. Put that knowledge into practice, practice, and more practice until you don't even need to think about what you're doing. Along the way you'll get the gear that's best for YOU and you're situation. There's a vast treasure trove of info on the web about lightweight backpacking, bushcraft and gear for any income and skill level. You can be dirt cheap or have the finest titanium gear made for the big bucks. But in no way is "stuff" a replacement for what's in your head.
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LMFAO! love your well intentioned thread OP.
Someone repost that link to the guy who survived holed up in his Bosnian town in the 90's. I think its in thread about when the collapse comes and the shooting starts. Bunch of John Waynes posted in that thread. People, friends, Brothers, Sisters you can't imagine the horror. No one one, not even me, Dick Head Richard Cranium will survive without deep lifelong psychological permanent scarring. You may choose. not to even long afterwards. Just ask some Vets.
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No offense, but "many colors of thread" as part of a sewing kit? This is a very nice OCD list, but the illness in creating it is showing a bit too much. And I've been at it for years...
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Yep!

I always get a kick out these lists, especially when it comes to the amount of weight that everything adds up to. For instance in the list a "Soap/Laundry Bucket/Plunger" in your pack, along with squirt bottles? Really? Far too much space taken up along with weight. And ditch the cotton clothes. They may be comfortable until their wet and hypothermia becomes a threat, not to mention they take forever to dry out. There are FAR better synthetics on the market today that are lighter, more comfortable and more durable. Wear a pair of Levi's soaking wet when it's 50 degrees and raining, then get back to me on how well they worked out.

No offense OP, but your list blows. Far too much weight and far too many items that could be totally left out. Think light and fast. Lumbering around with 80 pounds of crap is a sure way to get no where quick and the old adage of you'll only die tired bears repeating.

Here's my way. First off is knowledge! Read as many books/watch as many videos on survival/backpacking/hunting/defense as you can possibly stomach. Then go DO. Put that knowledge into practice, practice, and more practice until you don't even need to think about what you're doing. Along the way you'll get the gear that's best for YOU and you're situation. There's a vast treasure trove of info on the web about lightweight backpacking, bushcraft and gear for any income and skill level. You can be dirt cheap or have the finest titanium gear made for the big bucks. But in no way is "stuff" a replacement for what's in your head.
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I agree with most of what you said, but I want to encourage the OP... at least he posted a list. This can make people think & talk, even if it is to criticize.

I agree that knowledge & skills are most important. Many people, though, lack the time or motivation to 'practice, practice and more practice' as you said...

First prep: Get your soul saved through Jesus Christ.

Second prep: Realize you are not prepared (and do not want to die unprepared).

Third prep: Start reading / learning / and slowly stocking up on the things you ALREADY USE.

It will become a lifestyle that is sustainable, rewarding, and very smart financially.
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Survival Gear - Preparing for Tough Times/Societal Collapse, What you should have to survive.

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Too much!

Reduce it to:

Minimal:
A knife (Mora knifes are cheap and good)
The knowledge in your brain.


Maybe:
Cooking pot,
A rope
If you are american a gun (.45 revolver something that can kill a grizzly and be concealable)

That's it, if you are immobile you are doomed. Too much stuff and you are tied to a place.

If you can acquire social skills, like how to make friends quickly. That sort of thing, but don't turn your back on them. If you are in a group you are stronger.

And of course be prepared to give up everything except your love for Jesus.
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No offense, but "many colors of thread" as part of a sewing kit? This is a very nice OCD list, but the illness in creating it is showing a bit too much. And I've been at it for years...
 Quoting: Thulsa


Yep!

I always get a kick out these lists, especially when it comes to the amount of weight that everything adds up to. For instance in the list a "Soap/Laundry Bucket/Plunger" in your pack, along with squirt bottles? Really? Far too much space taken up along with weight. And ditch the cotton clothes. They may be comfortable until their wet and hypothermia becomes a threat, not to mention they take forever to dry out. There are FAR better synthetics on the market today that are lighter, more comfortable and more durable. Wear a pair of Levi's soaking wet when it's 50 degrees and raining, then get back to me on how well they worked out.

No offense OP, but your list blows. Far too much weight and far too many items that could be totally left out. Think light and fast. Lumbering around with 80 pounds of crap is a sure way to get no where quick and the old adage of you'll only die tired bears repeating.

Here's my way. First off is knowledge! Read as many books/watch as many videos on survival/backpacking/hunting/defense as you can possibly stomach. Then go DO. Put that knowledge into practice, practice, and more practice until you don't even need to think about what you're doing. Along the way you'll get the gear that's best for YOU and you're situation. There's a vast treasure trove of info on the web about lightweight backpacking, bushcraft and gear for any income and skill level. You can be dirt cheap or have the finest titanium gear made for the big bucks. But in no way is "stuff" a replacement for what's in your head.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51728832


I agree with most of what you said, but I want to encourage the OP... at least he posted a list. This can make people think & talk, even if it is to criticize.

I agree that knowledge & skills are most important. Many people, though, lack the time or motivation to 'practice, practice and more practice' as you said...

First prep: Get your soul saved through Jesus Christ.

Second prep: Realize you are not prepared (and do not want to die unprepared).

Third prep: Start reading / learning / and slowly stocking up on the things you ALREADY USE.

It will become a lifestyle that is sustainable, rewarding, and very smart financially.
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VERY true on wanting to encourage the OP and any one else reading and thinking about this thread. I applaud him on the .22. That's a good, wise choice as is some of his other choices in gear. OP, I'm sorry I used the word "blows" in relation to your list. "Fine tuning" would be a better way of describing it. And God knows fine tuning is the one thing that you (or I) never run out of!:) I swear I'll be on my death bed debating the virtues of one machete design over another.

And to be honest I have to begrudge you on the lack of time and motivation to practice. Practice does take time but it's an investment in that while that skill set may get rusty without use, even a rusty skill set beats an empty skill set when you truly need it. My trapping skills haven't been used in years in the wild, but I still enjoy constructing new traps in my backyard just to fine tune the skills needed to build them. A half hour here or there soon adds up in the knowledge base. But yep, time really is a major investment when it comes to prepping and learning. But if you want to do it you'll always find the time. As with any hobby whether it's going for a long walk, playing video games or spending time at the range it's up to you to motivate and do those things while prioritizing what you NEED to do with your time. And there's the crux: choosing between want and need. Again, priorities.

Oh BTW Azazia, you make some very cool things, including the little fan!





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