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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17625964 United States 02/23/2015 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A better solution is to start visiting some of the better prepper sites.... Most have tons of information from people that have been doing this for decades... Most even have lists, suggestions, sources, spreadsheets, articles, etc.... To get a newbie on the right track The first "trick" is to start |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68412162 Switzerland 02/26/2015 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | your NEEDS for survival are: Shelter Water Fire Food in that order. Start by getting A good knife or machette. A metal pot to boil water in. A fire starter (lighter will do). Cordage (rope, twine, fishing line, etc.) Brand new fresh bottle of uncented clorox bleach (for water treatment). And start learning...alot of good SHTF forums out there! Tons of info & ideas just waiting to be read. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 48955322 United States 02/26/2015 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Survival Gear - Preparing for Tough Times/Societal Collapse, What you should have to survive. Quoting: 201X 67659082 Keeping in mind, most people have limited Time, Money and Resources this is a wish list. of course it would be best to have everything you need, in a remote secure location with you and your family, all there with you when the world goes mad, from the Engineered Collapse that the Satanic New World Order has been working to bring about for many years now. If you can't just up and move, and take everything and everyone you care about with you now, this is a list of what you may want to have to get you where you want to be, and live well when you get there. 1)Spiritual - Get Saved(through Jesus Christ) - Physical, Mental and Skill preparedness - 2)Nutrition - Eat Organic / Detox 3)Strength and Flexibility training 4)Endurance Training 5)Weapons Training 6)Evasion Training 7)Martial Arts 8)Survival Skills First Aid / Healing - Herbs, Essential Oils, Detox, Pressure Points.... Fire - Friction, Optics, Flint, Compression, Electrical, Tinder, Charcloth... Shelter - Earth, Cabin, Natural, Tarps, Debris... Clothing - Natural Fibers for Yarn/Threads, Sewing, Knitting, Weaving, Leather... Food - Hunting, Gathering, Growing, Preserving methods... Wood - Making Tools, Furniture, Doors, shutters, and Weapons... Iron - Refining, Forging, making tools items and weapons... Clay - Making Pots and useful items Glass - Making Bottles, Jars and Windows. ================================= Every Day Carry Tactical Bag - (Water Resistant) (stores in top of scout pack) Knife / Sharpener .22 Revolver with 200/ammo. .22 Bore Snake/cleaning kit. Earplugs Spare Eyeglasses in Case Sunglasses in Case Steel Water Bottle Flashlight Extra Charged Batteries First Aid Kit Fire Kit Para-cord 100' Rain Gear Leather Gloves Ceramic Water Filter Multitool Maps Compass Watch Scope(spyglass) Pens/Pencil/Notebook Small Steel Cook kit Steel fork and spoon ================================= Scout Pack -Survival Essentials .22 Rifle with 2000 rounds min. ammo. Bow Saw Blades (Steel Nails for Ends) Small Shovel Axe / File Steel Water Bottles x2 Sewing Kit Fishing Kit Tool Kit Cooking Kit SAS - Survival Manual Tarp Camo/Brown 4mil clear plastic Clear Trashbags Para-cord 200' Ziplock Bags Foam Ground Pad Sleeping Bag/Liner Sheet Wool Blanket Seeds(Heirloom Veg/fruit) Clothes(Socks, Underwear, Hat, Heavy Pants/Shirts, Hat) Bug Netting / bite proof Cloak with hood /face netting Food Bear Bells/Bag/Rope "Cash"/Silver Salt Soap/Laundry Bucket/Plunger TP/Rags/Spray Bottles Rechargeable Batteries Flashlights Alarm Clock 2way Radios x2 sw/am/fm radio e-reader / mem cards Biolite T.E.G. Stove Solar Charger Hand Wound Generator Tablet with Mem Cards Vitamin/Mineral Supplement ========================================== --- Breakdown of Kit Contents ----------- ========================================== ** First Aid Kit ** Band-Aids Suture needles/thread Sterile Gauze Razor Locking Forceps Scissors Tweezers Nail Cutter Activated Charcoal Cyanee Garlic Turmeric Baking Soda Iodine Colloidal Silver Oil of Oragonal Gelatin(Healing Joint/Ligaments/Cartilage) Suction Kit Ace Bandages Exacto Knife (mixed blade types) ------------------------------------------ ** Fire Kit ** gas lighters Optical Lens rod sparker fire piston Vaseline Cotton balls Char Cloth/Tin ------------------------------------------ ** Small Stainless Steel Cook kit ** Pan Pot Cup ------------------------------------------ ** Sewing Kit ** Needles Heavy Thread many colors Folding Scissors Buttons Eye hooks Velcro Elastic Thimble Measuring Tape ------------------------------------------ ** Fishing Kit ** Line Heavy,Medium,Light hooks pliers Flies/spinners ------------------------------------------ ** Tool Kit ** Small Hand Drill/Bits Screw Driver/Bits Razor Knife/Blades Files Hacksaw/Blades Crescent Wrench Adjustable Pliers Small Pry bar Forceps(locking) Side Snips Wire cutter/stripper ------------------------------------------ ** Cooking Kit ** Stainless Steel Pot Stainless Steel Pan Bottle Brush Stainless Steel Cup Large Stainless Steel Spoon ------------------------------------------ ** Clothes ** Hemp, Wool, Denim/Cotton. ------------------------------------------ ** Food ** Whey Protein mix, Nuts, Sprouts, Vegetables. Natural High Fat Foods No Processed, GMO or Sugar foods ------------------------------------------ =================================================== === Extra Equipment if Transportation is possible ==== =================================================== ** Shelter ** Large Earthen Color Canvas Tarps matching Size of Group Sandbags Stovepipe/shroud Plexiglas para-cord Folding Shovel Axe Pick Hand Drill/Bits Bow Saw Spare Grommets Synthetic Tarps Nails Hinges/Screws Straight Saw Level Tape measure Metal Screen ------------------------------------------ ** Gun Bag ** Cleaning Kit Extra Ammo Extra Rifles/Handguns in .22 and Larger size caliber if you can afford the space/cost/weight issues. ------------------------------------------ ** Weapons Bag ** Slingshot/extra bands SlingBow Arrows Bows / Strings Quivers ------------------------------------------ ** Books ** First Aid / Healing - Herbs, Essential Oils, Detox, Pressure Points.... Fire - Friction, Optics, Flint, Compression, Electrical, Tinder, Charcloth... Shelter - Earth, Cabin, Natural, Tarps, Debris... Clothing - Natural Fibers for Yarn/Threads, Sewing, Knitting, Weaving, Leather... Food - Hunting, Gathering, Growing, Preserving methods... Wood - Making Tools, Furniture, Doors, shutters, and Weapons... Iron - Refining, Forging, making tools items and weapons... Clay - Making Pots and useful items Glass - Making Bottles, Jars and Windows. ------------------------------------------ ** Homesteading Items ** Blacksmithing Anvil Hammer Tongs Punches Bellows ** Gun reloading ** Bullet molds Brass Sizing Dies Bullet Press Dies Reloading Press Smokeless Powder/Data Books Scale Calipers ** Fabric Cloths making ** Spinning Wheel/Top knitting needles. Crochet forms ** Power Generation ** Solar Wind Water T.E.G. crank human powered ** Power Storage ** Edison Batteries (Iron/Nickel) Super Capacitors Elevated Water Hydro Storage. ** Food Preservation ** Dehydrators Smokers Canning (Tadler reusable lids) ** Construction ** Wood Carving tools Pulleys Block/tackle/Ropes Nuts/Bolts/Washers ** Water ** Ram Pumps (pump water up using water pressure at head of pump.) Rope Pumps (pull water up pipe using washers tied/spaced along rope.) Air Bubble Pumps (elevate water using rising bubbles in vertical pipe. Store water in Glass, Stainless Steel, Non BPA Plastic, Clean Clay fired Pots, Wood Barrels ** Scientific Research ** Books, Microscopes, Telescopes..... Do Not Take Vaccines, Rx Drugs or the Mark of the Beast. If you are on Rx Drugs, find a natural alternative to heal your body, and carefully get of the Rx Drugs, some are seriously dangerous to quit cold turkey and must be slowly reduced till you are off of them. When TSHTF the only thing you'll really have is what you can carry. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64158988 United States 02/26/2015 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Always thought it odd that the majority on GLP have little or no interest in prepping. I only visit here for any possible "heads up" on whatnot not mentioned in the news. It's getting pretty difficult with so many BS threads burying the worthy stuff pages back. Obammys minions at work I suppose. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64957503 There's really not that much to be said about prepping. We've all seen the same basic list of Important Shit To Have When TSHTF 500 times now. Not as interesting to me as it was 10 years ago. |
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Richard Cranium
User ID: 37698198 United States 03/02/2015 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All those lists of stuff, great if you have the luxury of sheltering in place. If you have to bug out, stick with what you can carry. Keep it simple. Rugged outer shell garment, under clothing in layers, a canteen cup and canteen, a rugged multi tool like leatherman. A wrist rocket slingshot with extra rubbers (knock a armed bad guy out cold and take his stuff) a flint. Your best tool is your noggin. All the gung ho jonny commando gear won't do you a bit of good with out noggin skills to improvise and turn every day garbage into tools of survival. Plentiful and disposable. Your best bet is learn firecraft, water purification, small animal traps and snares, wild herbs and medicinal plants. Shelter and concealment, hole up by day, move by night, stay off water ways, stay off ridgelines, stay off roads and trails. The clothes on your back, a rucksack with a few essentials. Learn the other stuff you can improvise and fashion things to use and discard as you go. My 2 cents. Taught Survival long ago. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 51728832 United States 03/02/2015 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No offense, but "many colors of thread" as part of a sewing kit? This is a very nice OCD list, but the illness in creating it is showing a bit too much. And I've been at it for years... Quoting: Thulsa Yep! I always get a kick out these lists, especially when it comes to the amount of weight that everything adds up to. For instance in the list a "Soap/Laundry Bucket/Plunger" in your pack, along with squirt bottles? Really? Far too much space taken up along with weight. And ditch the cotton clothes. They may be comfortable until their wet and hypothermia becomes a threat, not to mention they take forever to dry out. There are FAR better synthetics on the market today that are lighter, more comfortable and more durable. Wear a pair of Levi's soaking wet when it's 50 degrees and raining, then get back to me on how well they worked out. No offense OP, but your list blows. Far too much weight and far too many items that could be totally left out. Think light and fast. Lumbering around with 80 pounds of crap is a sure way to get no where quick and the old adage of you'll only die tired bears repeating. Here's my way. First off is knowledge! Read as many books/watch as many videos on survival/backpacking/hunting/defense as you can possibly stomach. Then go DO. Put that knowledge into practice, practice, and more practice until you don't even need to think about what you're doing. Along the way you'll get the gear that's best for YOU and you're situation. There's a vast treasure trove of info on the web about lightweight backpacking, bushcraft and gear for any income and skill level. You can be dirt cheap or have the finest titanium gear made for the big bucks. But in no way is "stuff" a replacement for what's in your head. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51728832 United States 03/02/2015 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No offense, but "many colors of thread" as part of a sewing kit? This is a very nice OCD list, but the illness in creating it is showing a bit too much. And I've been at it for years... Quoting: Thulsa Yep! I always get a kick out these lists, especially when it comes to the amount of weight that everything adds up to. For instance in the list a "Soap/Laundry Bucket/Plunger" in your pack, along with squirt bottles? Really? Far too much space taken up along with weight. And ditch the cotton clothes. They may be comfortable until their wet and hypothermia becomes a threat, not to mention they take forever to dry out. There are FAR better synthetics on the market today that are lighter, more comfortable and more durable. Wear a pair of Levi's soaking wet when it's 50 degrees and raining, then get back to me on how well they worked out. No offense OP, but your list blows. Far too much weight and far too many items that could be totally left out. Think light and fast. Lumbering around with 80 pounds of crap is a sure way to get no where quick and the old adage of you'll only die tired bears repeating. Here's my way. First off is knowledge! Read as many books/watch as many videos on survival/backpacking/hunting/defense as you can possibly stomach. Then go DO. Put that knowledge into practice, practice, and more practice until you don't even need to think about what you're doing. Along the way you'll get the gear that's best for YOU and you're situation. There's a vast treasure trove of info on the web about lightweight backpacking, bushcraft and gear for any income and skill level. You can be dirt cheap or have the finest titanium gear made for the big bucks. But in no way is "stuff" a replacement for what's in your head. |
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User ID: 37698198 United States 03/02/2015 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LMFAO! love your well intentioned thread OP. Someone repost that link to the guy who survived holed up in his Bosnian town in the 90's. I think its in thread about when the collapse comes and the shooting starts. Bunch of John Waynes posted in that thread. People, friends, Brothers, Sisters you can't imagine the horror. No one one, not even me, Dick Head Richard Cranium will survive without deep lifelong psychological permanent scarring. You may choose. not to even long afterwards. Just ask some Vets. |
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User ID: 68442109 United States 03/02/2015 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No offense, but "many colors of thread" as part of a sewing kit? This is a very nice OCD list, but the illness in creating it is showing a bit too much. And I've been at it for years... Quoting: Thulsa Yep! I always get a kick out these lists, especially when it comes to the amount of weight that everything adds up to. For instance in the list a "Soap/Laundry Bucket/Plunger" in your pack, along with squirt bottles? Really? Far too much space taken up along with weight. And ditch the cotton clothes. They may be comfortable until their wet and hypothermia becomes a threat, not to mention they take forever to dry out. There are FAR better synthetics on the market today that are lighter, more comfortable and more durable. Wear a pair of Levi's soaking wet when it's 50 degrees and raining, then get back to me on how well they worked out. No offense OP, but your list blows. Far too much weight and far too many items that could be totally left out. Think light and fast. Lumbering around with 80 pounds of crap is a sure way to get no where quick and the old adage of you'll only die tired bears repeating. Here's my way. First off is knowledge! Read as many books/watch as many videos on survival/backpacking/hunting/defense as you can possibly stomach. Then go DO. Put that knowledge into practice, practice, and more practice until you don't even need to think about what you're doing. Along the way you'll get the gear that's best for YOU and you're situation. There's a vast treasure trove of info on the web about lightweight backpacking, bushcraft and gear for any income and skill level. You can be dirt cheap or have the finest titanium gear made for the big bucks. But in no way is "stuff" a replacement for what's in your head. I agree with most of what you said, but I want to encourage the OP... at least he posted a list. This can make people think & talk, even if it is to criticize. I agree that knowledge & skills are most important. Many people, though, lack the time or motivation to 'practice, practice and more practice' as you said... First prep: Get your soul saved through Jesus Christ. Second prep: Realize you are not prepared (and do not want to die unprepared). Third prep: Start reading / learning / and slowly stocking up on the things you ALREADY USE. It will become a lifestyle that is sustainable, rewarding, and very smart financially. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68456694 Austria 03/02/2015 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Survival Gear - Preparing for Tough Times/Societal Collapse, What you should have to survive. Quoting: 201X 67659082 . . . Too much! Reduce it to: Minimal: A knife (Mora knifes are cheap and good) The knowledge in your brain. Maybe: Cooking pot, A rope If you are american a gun (.45 revolver something that can kill a grizzly and be concealable) That's it, if you are immobile you are doomed. Too much stuff and you are tied to a place. If you can acquire social skills, like how to make friends quickly. That sort of thing, but don't turn your back on them. If you are in a group you are stronger. And of course be prepared to give up everything except your love for Jesus. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51728832 United States 03/02/2015 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No offense, but "many colors of thread" as part of a sewing kit? This is a very nice OCD list, but the illness in creating it is showing a bit too much. And I've been at it for years... Quoting: Thulsa Yep! I always get a kick out these lists, especially when it comes to the amount of weight that everything adds up to. For instance in the list a "Soap/Laundry Bucket/Plunger" in your pack, along with squirt bottles? Really? Far too much space taken up along with weight. And ditch the cotton clothes. They may be comfortable until their wet and hypothermia becomes a threat, not to mention they take forever to dry out. There are FAR better synthetics on the market today that are lighter, more comfortable and more durable. Wear a pair of Levi's soaking wet when it's 50 degrees and raining, then get back to me on how well they worked out. No offense OP, but your list blows. Far too much weight and far too many items that could be totally left out. Think light and fast. Lumbering around with 80 pounds of crap is a sure way to get no where quick and the old adage of you'll only die tired bears repeating. Here's my way. First off is knowledge! Read as many books/watch as many videos on survival/backpacking/hunting/defense as you can possibly stomach. Then go DO. Put that knowledge into practice, practice, and more practice until you don't even need to think about what you're doing. Along the way you'll get the gear that's best for YOU and you're situation. There's a vast treasure trove of info on the web about lightweight backpacking, bushcraft and gear for any income and skill level. You can be dirt cheap or have the finest titanium gear made for the big bucks. But in no way is "stuff" a replacement for what's in your head. I agree with most of what you said, but I want to encourage the OP... at least he posted a list. This can make people think & talk, even if it is to criticize. I agree that knowledge & skills are most important. Many people, though, lack the time or motivation to 'practice, practice and more practice' as you said... First prep: Get your soul saved through Jesus Christ. Second prep: Realize you are not prepared (and do not want to die unprepared). Third prep: Start reading / learning / and slowly stocking up on the things you ALREADY USE. It will become a lifestyle that is sustainable, rewarding, and very smart financially. VERY true on wanting to encourage the OP and any one else reading and thinking about this thread. I applaud him on the .22. That's a good, wise choice as is some of his other choices in gear. OP, I'm sorry I used the word "blows" in relation to your list. "Fine tuning" would be a better way of describing it. And God knows fine tuning is the one thing that you (or I) never run out of!:) I swear I'll be on my death bed debating the virtues of one machete design over another. And to be honest I have to begrudge you on the lack of time and motivation to practice. Practice does take time but it's an investment in that while that skill set may get rusty without use, even a rusty skill set beats an empty skill set when you truly need it. My trapping skills haven't been used in years in the wild, but I still enjoy constructing new traps in my backyard just to fine tune the skills needed to build them. A half hour here or there soon adds up in the knowledge base. But yep, time really is a major investment when it comes to prepping and learning. But if you want to do it you'll always find the time. As with any hobby whether it's going for a long walk, playing video games or spending time at the range it's up to you to motivate and do those things while prioritizing what you NEED to do with your time. And there's the crux: choosing between want and need. Again, priorities. Oh BTW Azazia, you make some very cool things, including the little fan! |