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There is a very well used technology to "Torpedo" in 3/4 inch copper tubing into domestic homes, if not larger sizes for commerical and industrial use.. Guess what they use to get the pipe in and to animate the "torpedo?" An air compressor.....

Technically i think it maybe possible for a smaller aircompressor - not the kind they typically use on wheels, to do the job - it would just take much-much longer. Essentially a torpedo is a pneumatic hammer which drives forward underground.. In this case we have very sandy soil, from what I saw in the video, so it is might be possible....

Having said that, I'm no explosive/demolition expert...

But lets say a bunch of C4 or other explosive was put inside 3/4 inch copper tubing, pnuematically hammered under a terrorist target, by the use of a torpedo? Is it possible? Could such a contraption be rigged? It seems possible that with the right tunnel a network of 3/4 inch tubing may have been torpedoed under a target like the lines of an open hand-fan - but structurally aimed at specific supports (load points) of a building and/or near particular footings.

Long story short, just because the tunnel looked short, doesn't mean crap! The tunnel only needs to be long enough to uncoil tubing and to support the air compressor, generator, sump pump, and ventilation, with adequate work-room.

Technically it may also be possible to use much smaller sizes of copper tubing with a smaller air compressor - but also much harder perhaps to rig explosives inside.
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Also,

1. If they had years to plan, they could have built a much smaller torpedo, custom made, to pneumatically hammer in any size of small bore pipe in, engineered to work with the size of the compressor used in the trench.

2. Typically when plumbers and/or city workers torpedo in pipes, there are two holes dug, one being a basement, typically, and the other just a veru carefully hand-dug and/or back-hoed acess to the city water valve. What I'm saying is that typically this is done by eye, but there is no reason why basic trigonometry can't be used to both plot a course, and to terminate at proper locations, explosive charges. My guess is GPS would not work below ground, but what do I know?

3. After any potential pipe is torpedoed in, I would personally dig in 2-5 more feet, to mask all the indentations and traffic of torpedoing in pipe. I'd terminate connections maybe 6 more inches in a trench wall, and come up with a way to patch up the holes, so it looked natural. I'd then cover up any tracks that might indicate fuses or pipe had been used anywhere, as well as to clean up any copper burs... In any case, there are many types of pipe - pex pipe could of even of been used. Hard to say.
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There is a very well used technology to "Torpedo" in 3/4 inch copper tubing into domestic homes, if not larger sizes for commerical and industrial use.. Guess what they use to get the pipe in and to animate the "torpedo?" An air compressor.....

Technically i think it maybe possible for a smaller aircompressor - not the kind they typically use on wheels, to do the job - it would just take much-much longer. Essentially a torpedo is a pneumatic hammer which drives forward underground.. In this case we have very sandy soil, from what I saw in the video, so it is might be possible....

Having said that, I'm no explosive/demolition expert...

But lets say a bunch of C4 or other explosive was put inside 3/4 inch copper tubing, pnuematically hammered under a terrorist target, by the use of a torpedo? Is it possible? Could such a contraption be rigged? It seems possible that with the right tunnel a network of 3/4 inch tubing may have been torpedoed under a target like the lines of an open hand-fan - but structurally aimed at specific supports (load points) of a building and/or near particular footings.

Long story short, just because the tunnel looked short, doesn't mean crap! The tunnel only needs to be long enough to uncoil tubing and to support the air compressor, generator, sump pump, and ventilation, with adequate work-room.

Technically it may also be possible to use much smaller sizes of copper tubing with a smaller air compressor - but also much harder perhaps to rig explosives inside.
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Also,

1. If they had years to plan, they could have built a much smaller torpedo, custom made, to pneumatically hammer in any size of small bore pipe in, engineered to work with the size of the compressor used in the trench.

2. Typically when plumbers and/or city workers torpedo in pipes, there are two holes dug, one being a basement, typically, and the other just a veru carefully hand-dug and/or back-hoed acess to the city water valve. What I'm saying is that typically this is done by eye, but there is no reason why basic trigonometry can't be used to both plot a course, and to terminate at proper locations, explosive charges. My guess is GPS would not work below ground, but what do I know?

3. After any potential pipe is torpedoed in, I would personally dig in 2-5 more feet, to mask all the indentations and traffic of torpedoing in pipe. I'd terminate connections maybe 6 more inches in a trench wall, and come up with a way to patch up the holes, so it looked natural. I'd then cover up any tracks that might indicate fuses or pipe had been used anywhere, as well as to clean up any copper burs... In any case, there are many types of pipe - pex pipe could of even of been used. Hard to say.
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Based on #2, does the underground tunnel match the specifications for some easy trigonometry, torpedoed at vectors leading to specific/critical load points? If it does, I'd be very concerned...
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There is a very well used technology to "Torpedo" in 3/4 inch copper tubing into domestic homes, if not larger sizes for commerical and industrial use.. Guess what they use to get the pipe in and to animate the "torpedo?" An air compressor.....

Technically i think it maybe possible for a smaller aircompressor - not the kind they typically use on wheels, to do the job - it would just take much-much longer. Essentially a torpedo is a pneumatic hammer which drives forward underground.. In this case we have very sandy soil, from what I saw in the video, so it is might be possible....

Having said that, I'm no explosive/demolition expert...

But lets say a bunch of C4 or other explosive was put inside 3/4 inch copper tubing, pnuematically hammered under a terrorist target, by the use of a torpedo? Is it possible? Could such a contraption be rigged? It seems possible that with the right tunnel a network of 3/4 inch tubing may have been torpedoed under a target like the lines of an open hand-fan - but structurally aimed at specific supports (load points) of a building and/or near particular footings.

Long story short, just because the tunnel looked short, doesn't mean crap! The tunnel only needs to be long enough to uncoil tubing and to support the air compressor, generator, sump pump, and ventilation, with adequate work-room.

Technically it may also be possible to use much smaller sizes of copper tubing with a smaller air compressor - but also much harder perhaps to rig explosives inside.
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Also,

1. If they had years to plan, they could have built a much smaller torpedo, custom made, to pneumatically hammer in any size of small bore pipe in, engineered to work with the size of the compressor used in the trench.

2. Typically when plumbers and/or city workers torpedo in pipes, there are two holes dug, one being a basement, typically, and the other just a veru carefully hand-dug and/or back-hoed acess to the city water valve. What I'm saying is that typically this is done by eye, but there is no reason why basic trigonometry can't be used to both plot a course, and to terminate at proper locations, explosive charges. My guess is GPS would not work below ground, but what do I know?

3. After any potential pipe is torpedoed in, I would personally dig in 2-5 more feet, to mask all the indentations and traffic of torpedoing in pipe. I'd terminate connections maybe 6 more inches in a trench wall, and come up with a way to patch up the holes, so it looked natural. I'd then cover up any tracks that might indicate fuses or pipe had been used anywhere, as well as to clean up any copper burs... In any case, there are many types of pipe - pex pipe could of even of been used. Hard to say.
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Based on #2, does the underground tunnel match the specifications for some easy trigonometry, torpedoed at vectors leading to specific/critical load points? If it does, I'd be very concerned...
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Last time I hope to reply to my own thoughts...

If memory serves me correct, typically the torpedo itself is intercepted at another hole and the torpedo is disconnected; the pneumatic hose is then pulled back from where it came from.

Thus a person wanting to rig explosives, would likely have to sacrificially use a torpedo - a sort of one way trip - and then have some rigid tubing packed with explosives, that fits inside the bore of the pneumatic hose. Thus if multiple targets where planned for, multiple torpedos and hoses would be needed. No doubt it would have to be very well planned in advance. You wouldn't be able to dream it up on the fly... All your allowances and distances would have to be fitted and calculated to the T.
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There is a very well used technology to "Torpedo" in 3/4 inch copper tubing into domestic homes, if not larger sizes for commerical and industrial use.. Guess what they use to get the pipe in and to animate the "torpedo?" An air compressor.....

Technically i think it maybe possible for a smaller aircompressor - not the kind they typically use on wheels, to do the job - it would just take much-much longer. Essentially a torpedo is a pneumatic hammer which drives forward underground.. In this case we have very sandy soil, from what I saw in the video, so it is might be possible....

Having said that, I'm no explosive/demolition expert...

But lets say a bunch of C4 or other explosive was put inside 3/4 inch copper tubing, pnuematically hammered under a terrorist target, by the use of a torpedo? Is it possible? Could such a contraption be rigged? It seems possible that with the right tunnel a network of 3/4 inch tubing may have been torpedoed under a target like the lines of an open hand-fan - but structurally aimed at specific supports (load points) of a building and/or near particular footings.

Long story short, just because the tunnel looked short, doesn't mean crap! The tunnel only needs to be long enough to uncoil tubing and to support the air compressor, generator, sump pump, and ventilation, with adequate work-room.

Technically it may also be possible to use much smaller sizes of copper tubing with a smaller air compressor - but also much harder perhaps to rig explosives inside.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68277144


Also,

1. If they had years to plan, they could have built a much smaller torpedo, custom made, to pneumatically hammer in any size of small bore pipe in, engineered to work with the size of the compressor used in the trench.

2. Typically when plumbers and/or city workers torpedo in pipes, there are two holes dug, one being a basement, typically, and the other just a veru carefully hand-dug and/or back-hoed acess to the city water valve. What I'm saying is that typically this is done by eye, but there is no reason why basic trigonometry can't be used to both plot a course, and to terminate at proper locations, explosive charges. My guess is GPS would not work below ground, but what do I know?

3. After any potential pipe is torpedoed in, I would personally dig in 2-5 more feet, to mask all the indentations and traffic of torpedoing in pipe. I'd terminate connections maybe 6 more inches in a trench wall, and come up with a way to patch up the holes, so it looked natural. I'd then cover up any tracks that might indicate fuses or pipe had been used anywhere, as well as to clean up any copper burs... In any case, there are many types of pipe - pex pipe could of even of been used. Hard to say.
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Based on #2, does the underground tunnel match the specifications for some easy trigonometry, torpedoed at vectors leading to specific/critical load points? If it does, I'd be very concerned...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68277144


Last time I hope to reply to my own thoughts...

If memory serves me correct, typically the torpedo itself is intercepted at another hole and the torpedo is disconnected; the pneumatic hose is then pulled back from where it came from.

Thus a person wanting to rig explosives, would likely have to sacrificially use a torpedo - a sort of one way trip - and then have some rigid tubing packed with explosives, that fits inside the bore of the pneumatic hose. Thus if multiple targets where planned for, multiple torpedos and hoses would be needed. No doubt it would have to be very well planned in advance. You wouldn't be able to dream it up on the fly... All your allowances and distances would have to be fitted and calculated to the T.
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if this were the case, I'd also use some electricians lubricant.. soap like crap that's yellow I believe... that would cut down on the friction...

just not sure how an explosive expert would ignite any potential explosives once underground... How would they get a signal below ground? ELF? I don't have the foggiest clue how that could be done.
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The article above best describes Toronto Police investigative work. Man found stabbed not homicide or suicide? Like wtf the knife just came out of nowhere...smh
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Just a smart prepper getting ready.
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Just a smart prepper getting ready.
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Why would a "smart prepper" have his stronghold surrounded by the one of the worst ghettos in city, Where the surrounding buildings carry a small arsenal of weapons? And not to mention their are town houses and bulidings that line this valley where the tunnel was. Not so smart.
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WW1 they would tunnel under and blow up the enemy. They did it alot
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That's why they found a poppy.

The tunnel was found by a Toronto and Region Conservation Authority employee. After lifting a sheet of aluminum, the employee saw the entrance to a reinforced tunnel, which was about seven metres long and 2.5 metres beneath the ground.

The tunnel has since been filled in, and poses no threat “at this point,” according to police.

Over a month after discovering it, Toronto Police say they have no idea why someone built the underground tunnel or who dug it, and if they are not still looking for the culprits that is clearly not acceptable.

Suffice it to say that anybody who is able to get away with building a sophisticated terror tunnel without exposure is sophisticated enough to get away with a terrorist attack.

Everybody involved in the illegal construction of the discovered tunnel was potentially aiding and abetting an act of terrorism and as long as every detail of what appears to be a foiled terrorist plot is not exposed, Toronto is not safe.

The typical use for an illegal tunnel—at least in North America—is to smuggle drugs or to get felons out of prison. Neither use appears to have been feasible with the Toronto tunnel. Consequently, in today's environment, one atypical use of such a clandestine tunnel is to pack it with enough explosives to simulate the impact of a nuclear, terorist attack, to remind an extremely gullible world that we must kill all the terrorists before they kill us.

Boston had its "awakening", Paris was likewise attacked and even tiny Denmark was brought to its knees by events which have not been fully explained because they are shrouded in deception.

If you do not understand all the unresolved questions about the Boston Marathon attack, Google the following "Terrorist Attacks: Unanswered questions" -and click on the link 'Terrorist Attacks: Unanswered questions.' (if you are a regular GLP'er, you get it !)


To better understand the Paris attacks, Google the following "Truth is, Extremists are exclusively responsible for assassination of contr oversial Magazine editor." -and click on "Who killed Charlie?" (again, if you are a regular GLP'er, you get it !)

The Denmark attack was literally copycat and it is consequently reasonable to assume that it will not be fully solved until all the mystery surrounding the Paris attacks is resolved.

Best educated guess -The discovered tunnel in Toronto was funded by Saudi-style terrorists with links to western intelligence and the purpose of the foiled attack was to link the Paris, Boston and Denmark attacks to an ever escalating, world-wide terrorist threat and the culprits who plotted this attack have thus far evaded the authorities -they are ruthless murderers who routinely make corpses or total fools of all the "authorities" -remember the alleged suicide of the Paris police chief who was investigating the Charlie Hebdo massacre?

Now, unlike the Toronto police, you know who to blame.
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The poppy is key.
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I agree. This was a false flag to embolden our warmonger PM. We need to get rid of him fast or they'll do it again.
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The money is on nefarious.


1. A terror hideout

Ron Wretham, a 32-year Toronto police veteran, can’t get over the tunnel’s proximity to a Pan-Am Games venue. While Deputy Police Chief Mark Saunders told reporters Tuesday that the unfinished tunnel did not appear to be headed toward the stadium, Mr. Wretham said that doesn’t rule out the possibility that the tunnel is connected to someone wanting to disrupt the games. “They could do something horrendous, run to this bunker and possibly go undetected right under the nose of police,” said Mr. Wretham, a former detective sergeant who is currently the co-CEO of Investigative Solutions Network. “I firmly believe that this is for something nefarious,” he said. The size of the tunnel — 10 metres long, 2.5 metres high and 70 centimetres wide — would also make for an ideal place to cache a large quantity of weapons or explosives, Mr. Wretham said.

The culprits must be hunted down as if they had in fact succeeded to terrorize.
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Think the air compressor is key... to have an air compressor to merely put studs together does not reflect necessity, but very unnecessary extravagence. Thus my thinking is that sacrificial torpedos may have been involved along with packing in a network of explosives underground using basic triginometry.

Behaviourally im confused over the air compressor. Anybody know another reason it coukd be there beyond extravagence?
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The money is on nefarious.


1. A terror hideout

Ron Wretham, a 32-year Toronto police veteran, can’t get over the tunnel’s proximity to a Pan-Am Games venue. While Deputy Police Chief Mark Saunders told reporters Tuesday that the unfinished tunnel did not appear to be headed toward the stadium, Mr. Wretham said that doesn’t rule out the possibility that the tunnel is connected to someone wanting to disrupt the games. “They could do something horrendous, run to this bunker and possibly go undetected right under the nose of police,” said Mr. Wretham, a former detective sergeant who is currently the co-CEO of Investigative Solutions Network. “I firmly believe that this is for something nefarious,” he said. The size of the tunnel — 10 metres long, 2.5 metres high and 70 centimetres wide — would also make for an ideal place to cache a large quantity of weapons or explosives, Mr. Wretham said.

The culprits must be hunted down as if they had in fact succeeded to terrorize.
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All the "sohhisticated" terrorist attacks lead back to the same source.

Charlie Hebdo Terrorists abandoned their car in front of a shop with a terrace and a partially lowered metal curtain. This is a restaurant-bakery called Patistory, located at 45, rue de Meaux.

The special interest of the place? Patistory is one of the seven locations – in all France – of an annual gala dedicated to the Israeli army and organized by the French Zionist association Migdal.

In 2008, members of the France-Palestine Solidarity expressed their displeasure with the stewards of the gala: the Jewish Defense League.

The Jewish Defense League, or JDL, is a notorious international terrorist group implicated in hundreds of acts of violence, and untold thousands of death threats, worldwide. Even the FBI, which is normally cowed by the Israel lobby and often complicit in Zionist terrorism, has labeled the JDL a terrorist group.

Best guess is the JDL was plannin a terroris attack, to blame it on the Muslims.

Thank God their fucken plot was discovered this time.
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1. A terror hideout

Ron Wretham, a 32-year Toronto police veteran, can’t get over the tunnel’s proximity to a Pan-Am Games venue. While Deputy Police Chief Mark Saunders told reporters Tuesday that the unfinished tunnel did not appear to be headed toward the stadium, Mr. Wretham said that doesn’t rule out the possibility that the tunnel is connected to someone wanting to disrupt the games. “They could do something horrendous, run to this bunker and possibly go undetected right under the nose of police,” said Mr. Wretham, a former detective sergeant who is currently the co-CEO of Investigative Solutions Network. “I firmly believe that this is for something nefarious,” he said. The size of the tunnel — 10 metres long, 2.5 metres high and 70 centimetres wide — would also make for an ideal place to cache a large quantity of weapons or explosives, Mr. Wretham said.

The culprits must be hunted down as if they had in fact succeeded to terrorize.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6795916


All the "sohhisticated" terrorist attacks lead back to the same source.

Charlie Hebdo Terrorists abandoned their car in front of a shop with a terrace and a partially lowered metal curtain. This is a restaurant-bakery called Patistory, located at 45, rue de Meaux.

The special interest of the place? Patistory is one of the seven locations – in all France – of an annual gala dedicated to the Israeli army and organized by the French Zionist association Migdal.

In 2008, members of the France-Palestine Solidarity expressed their displeasure with the stewards of the gala: the Jewish Defense League.

The Jewish Defense League, or JDL, is a notorious international terrorist group implicated in hundreds of acts of violence, and untold thousands of death threats, worldwide. Even the FBI, which is normally cowed by the Israel lobby and often complicit in Zionist terrorism, has labeled the JDL a terrorist group.

Best guess is the JDL was plannin a terroris attack, to blame it on the Muslims.

Thank God their fucken plot was discovered this time.
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This could be pulled of easily here.

The JDL does have a chapter in the city most likely their Canadian headquarters


We also have over 200k in Ontario alone
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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1. A terror hideout

Ron Wretham, a 32-year Toronto police veteran, can’t get over the tunnel’s proximity to a Pan-Am Games venue. While Deputy Police Chief Mark Saunders told reporters Tuesday that the unfinished tunnel did not appear to be headed toward the stadium, Mr. Wretham said that doesn’t rule out the possibility that the tunnel is connected to someone wanting to disrupt the games. “They could do something horrendous, run to this bunker and possibly go undetected right under the nose of police,” said Mr. Wretham, a former detective sergeant who is currently the co-CEO of Investigative Solutions Network. “I firmly believe that this is for something nefarious,” he said. The size of the tunnel — 10 metres long, 2.5 metres high and 70 centimetres wide — would also make for an ideal place to cache a large quantity of weapons or explosives, Mr. Wretham said.

The culprits must be hunted down as if they had in fact succeeded to terrorize.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6795916


All the "sohhisticated" terrorist attacks lead back to the same source.

Charlie Hebdo Terrorists abandoned their car in front of a shop with a terrace and a partially lowered metal curtain. This is a restaurant-bakery called Patistory, located at 45, rue de Meaux.

The special interest of the place? Patistory is one of the seven locations – in all France – of an annual gala dedicated to the Israeli army and organized by the French Zionist association Migdal.

In 2008, members of the France-Palestine Solidarity expressed their displeasure with the stewards of the gala: the Jewish Defense League.

The Jewish Defense League, or JDL, is a notorious international terrorist group implicated in hundreds of acts of violence, and untold thousands of death threats, worldwide. Even the FBI, which is normally cowed by the Israel lobby and often complicit in Zionist terrorism, has labeled the JDL a terrorist group.

Best guess is the JDL was plannin a terroris attack, to blame it on the Muslims.

Thank God their fucken plot was discovered this time.
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This could be pulled of easily here.

The JDL does have a chapter in the city most likely their Canadian headquarters


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1. A terror hideout

Ron Wretham, a 32-year Toronto police veteran, can’t get over the tunnel’s proximity to a Pan-Am Games venue. While Deputy Police Chief Mark Saunders told reporters Tuesday that the unfinished tunnel did not appear to be headed toward the stadium, Mr. Wretham said that doesn’t rule out the possibility that the tunnel is connected to someone wanting to disrupt the games. “They could do something horrendous, run to this bunker and possibly go undetected right under the nose of police,” said Mr. Wretham, a former detective sergeant who is currently the co-CEO of Investigative Solutions Network. “I firmly believe that this is for something nefarious,” he said. The size of the tunnel — 10 metres long, 2.5 metres high and 70 centimetres wide — would also make for an ideal place to cache a large quantity of weapons or explosives, Mr. Wretham said.

The culprits must be hunted down as if they had in fact succeeded to terrorize.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6795916


All the "sohhisticated" terrorist attacks lead back to the same source.

Charlie Hebdo Terrorists abandoned their car in front of a shop with a terrace and a partially lowered metal curtain. This is a restaurant-bakery called Patistory, located at 45, rue de Meaux.

The special interest of the place? Patistory is one of the seven locations – in all France – of an annual gala dedicated to the Israeli army and organized by the French Zionist association Migdal.

In 2008, members of the France-Palestine Solidarity expressed their displeasure with the stewards of the gala: the Jewish Defense League.

The Jewish Defense League, or JDL, is a notorious international terrorist group implicated in hundreds of acts of violence, and untold thousands of death threats, worldwide. Even the FBI, which is normally cowed by the Israel lobby and often complicit in Zionist terrorism, has labeled the JDL a terrorist group.

Best guess is the JDL was plannin a terroris attack, to blame it on the Muslims.

Thank God their fucken plot was discovered this time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44499558


This could be pulled of easily here.

The JDL does have a chapter in the city most likely their Canadian headquarters


We also have over 200k in Ontario alone
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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These fanatics have to use their money somehow.

Good for Toronto's construction industry.
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There is NO tunnel !
Media is yanking your chain.
More money for security YES
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There is NO tunnel !
Media is yanking your chain.
More money for security YES
tunnel really exists NO

Thread: Mainstream News is a Mental Illness.

you believe whatever they tell you
then natter about it online !!!!!!!
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Is the media lying about the cartels in your country slaughtering and kidnapping...doubtful. I've seen the videos god help you sir.
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The tunnel (though possibly incomplete) leads nowhere. Why build a tunnel at all instead of just a shaft/chamber combination?

If the tunnel leads nowhere why was a lengthy passageway even necessary?

To dig the extra length without adequately concealing the excavation makes no sense.
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There is NO tunnel !
Media is yanking your chain.
More money for security YES
tunnel really exists NO

Thread: Mainstream News is a Mental Illness.

you believe whatever they tell you
then natter about it online !!!!!!!
 Quoting: 7he4ngl


Is the media lying about the cartels in your country slaughtering and kidnapping...doubtful. I've seen the videos god help you sir.
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Just a stupid shill OP.

Keep up the great work, I think this thread solved that mystery.

The stupid Mexican is on drugs.
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A police investigation should be conducted on a mens shelter called Seaton House.

The staff are physically and mentally abusive. Homeless will not go there. huffy
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A police investigation should be conducted on a mens shelter called Seaton House.

The staff are physically and mentally abusive. Homeless will not go there.

huffy
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A police investigation should be conducted on a mens shelter called Seaton House.

The staff are physically and mentally abusive. Homeless will not go there. huffy
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Cops are too busy chasing Johns.
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Anything new on this today?

.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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I hate the city tdown

but I love the 80's band rockon

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Anything new on this today?

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 Quoting: Bluebird


False flags are buried, don't expect anything new unless they find a scapegoat to blame.

Needless to say the pattern is clear.

Terrorize the public and blame ISIS.

SICK BASTARDS.
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If there is a terrorist attack in Toronto the JDL will be bombed out of existence/
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Anything new on this today?

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 Quoting: Bluebird


False flags are buried, don't expect anything new unless they find a scapegoat to blame.

Needless to say the pattern is clear.

Terrorize the public and blame ISIS.

SICK BASTARDS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68414264



Imagine how pissed they are spending all that money for nothing laugh
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Re: Toronto Tunnel Mystery - Former Assistant Director from CSIS Rules Out Drug Lab or Bug Out Shelter
The tunnel (though possibly incomplete) leads nowhere. Why build a tunnel at all instead of just a shaft/chamber combination?

If the tunnel leads nowhere why was a lengthy passageway even necessary?

To dig the extra length without adequately concealing the excavation makes no sense.
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In my view to set up a spool of pipe and uncoil it youd like all the space u can get as it fishes out, while inserting it into some torpedoed holes underground. its not just the piping with but the machinery turning. Imagine if it was a tight space and u got tied up in the mess or the hose and piping itself tore the shoring/walls of the trench apart. Much like snaking open a plugged pipe with a rigid machine you dont want the snake or the machinery to pull your body apart. Depending on the potential equipment used and judging by the sizeable exthere were excavation its possible that larger pipe and machinery was used. Hell if there were pully systems used it could have been for uncoiling pipe safely but i havent seen the system to determine if its more than just a rope and gyn wheel system.
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The tunnel (though possibly incomplete) leads nowhere. Why build a tunnel at all instead of just a shaft/chamber combination?

If the tunnel leads nowhere why was a lengthy passageway even necessary?

To dig the extra length without adequately concealing the excavation makes no sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68122040


In my view to set up a spool of pipe and uncoil it youd like all the space u can get as it fishes out, while inserting it into some torpedoed holes underground. its not just the piping with but the machinery turning. Imagine if it was a tight space and u got tied up in the mess or the hose and piping itself tore the shoring/walls of the trench apart. Much like snaking open a plugged pipe with a rigid machine you dont want the snake or the machinery to pull your body apart. Depending on the potential equipment used and judging by the sizeable exthere were excavation its possible that larger pipe and machinery was used. Hell if there were pully systems used it could have been for uncoiling pipe safely but i havent seen the system to determine if its more than just a rope and gyn wheel system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35851706


Funny thing is to hide a large spool of piping down there they would have to likely uncoil it and recoil it below if the entrance is likely too small. that alone would require space on top of the safety margin for not getting caught in hose or pipe as it was being fished into the ground





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