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FCC Net neutrality rules released! How fucked are we?! Pin this shit!

 
cletus_jones
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FCC Net neutrality rules released! How fucked are we?! Pin this shit!
Let's try and organize and read this massive 400 page set of rules and regulations.

[link to transition.fcc.gov]
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That is worse than what I thought it would be! No wonder they had to pass it in secret.

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How are us mere mortals supposed to even read this dense shit?! This is government run amok!
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Let me know when you guys figure it out m Kay?
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it says the service ISP's provide does not fall under free speech.

so they can require ISP's disclose all kinds of info, and they can be shut down with no regard for the first amendment

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it also says in there that there will be new fees
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#544
"When engaged in broadband Internet access services, broadband providers are not speakers, but rather serve as
conduits for the speech of others. The manner in which broadband providers operate their networks does
not rise to the level of speech protected by the First Amendment."

And since it is not an issue of Free Speech, the government can require service providers to disclose all kinds of information...

#560
"CenturyLink contends that the disclosure requirements under the transparency rule violate the First Amendment by compelling speech without a reasonable basis.1723 They argue that the Commission has not established a potential problem which these disclosures are necessary to remedy and that this is fatal to the rules under the First Amendment. This argument misapprehends both the factual justification for the transparency rules and the constitutional legal standard against which any disclosure requirements would be evaluated by the courts. "
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it also says in there that there will be new fees
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58351617


But but but.... i thought they said no new taxes or fees...

Crooked bastards.
The Abyss stares back...

Glp ping pong champ...
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Page 42, section 99.. There it is! get ready to open the wallet folks..
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That is worse than what I thought it would be! No wonder they had to pass it in secret.

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The most open and transparent Administration in history Brah
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Page 42, section 99.. There it is! get ready to open the wallet folks..
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What? That's a comment. Most of this thing is a listing of every comment posted in the 4 months they allowed public comments.
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No. There are several hundred numbered sections so you can refer to a specific part of the 400 page document.
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5 stars because everyone should read this. I'm bookmarking to read through later.
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554. A content-neutral regulation will survive intermediate scrutiny if “it furthers an important or substantial government interest . . . unrelated to the suppression of free expression,” and if “the means
chosen” to achieve that interest “do not burden substantially more speech than is necessary.”1712
The government interests underlying this Order are clear and numerous.
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Well this is scary
Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
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basically what this means; lawful content as defined by the government or the CGB (others)
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Let's try and organize and read this massive 400 page set of rules and regulations.

[link to transition.fcc.gov]
 Quoting: cletus_jones


You start at the top, I'll start at the bottom.

Anyone got middle down and middle up?
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it also says in there that there will be new fees
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58351617


But but but.... i thought they said no new taxes or fees...

Crooked bastards.
 Quoting: Roobit


And you can keep your doctor...
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Let me know when you guys figure it out m Kay?
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Hell, it will take thousands of lawyers years to figure it out, which was the reason it was written. Job security.
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Cultural Marxism 101. One of the many tentacles of communism.
"Control the information".
"Nullify all discussion and thought with politically correctness".
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I'll do a simple analysis, without reading it, based on past actions taken by bumbling goobmit bureaucraps.

Worse service, higher prices
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"PASS IT SO WE CAN SEE WHAT IS IN IT" has struck again!

And you fuckers just sit idly by yapping on GLP like little bitches.
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Oh thank you and may I have another?!workdone1butthurt9
You are the creator of your own master plan... Make it a good one.

Wake the fuk up and be ready... This is absolutely no time to be stupid!

“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” - Nikola Tesla
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New Fees...

#81
Among the costs that consumers may experience are:
high upfront device installation fees; long-term contracts and early termination fees; the activation fee
when changing service providers

#99
Switching costs may arise due to a number of factors that affect mobile consumers.

#528 Bullet 5
the classification of broadband Internet access service as a telecommunications service could
trigger certain contributions to support mechanisms or fee payment requirements under the Act and
Commission rules

Page 325
New Broadband Taxes.—One avenue for higher bills is the new taxes and fees that will be
applied to broadband. Here’s the background. If you look at your phone bill, you’ll see a “Universal
Service Fee,” or something like it. These fees (what most Americans would call taxes) are paid by
Americans on their telephone service and funnel about $9 billion each year through the FCC—all outside
the congressional appropriations process. Consumers haven’t had to pay these taxes on their broadband
bills because broadband Internet access service has never before been a Title II service.
But now it is. And so the Order explicitly opens the door to billions of dollars in new taxes on
broadband. As the Order frankly acknowledges, Title II “authorizes the Commission to impose universal
service contributions requirements on telecommunications carriers—and, indeed, goes even further to
require ‘[e]very telecommunications carrier that provides interstate telecommunications services’ to
contribute.”36
And so the FCC now has a statutory obligation to make sure that all Internet service
providers (and in the end, their customers) contribute to the Universal Service Fund.

Page 329
reclassification will expose many small companies to higher state and local taxes.
Tax rates on telecommunications companies are often significantly higher than those imposed on general
businesses, and so reclassification threatens Internet service providers with property tax hikes, new
transaction-based taxes and fees, and greater income, franchising, and gross receipts taxes.56
And these
tax hikes won’t necessarily be de minimis. In the District of Columbia, for instance, companies will face
an instant 11% increase in taxes on their gross receipts.
57
That big bite will leave a welt on Washington
consumers’ wallets.

broadband taxes like those imposed by the Order have evaded the scope of
the Internet Tax Freedom Act so far—because they are “fees,” not “taxes,” and because they’re not
exclusively about “Internet access” but more generally applied.59
And since Congress has not entrusted
the Commission with interpreting the Internet Tax Freedom Act, even our most fervent pronouncements
for it to be broader will not make it so.
All of these new fees and costs add up. One estimate puts the total at $11 billion a year.60


page 400
the Commission claims that this item does not require broadband providers to
contribute to the federal universal service fund at this time. But that’s because it defers that decision to a
pending proceeding which is likely to result in new fees on broadband service.

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Hope and Change Bitches, so if u voted for Obama you own this shit!
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it also says in there that there will be new fees
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58351617


But but but.... i thought they said no new taxes or fees...

Crooked bastards.
 Quoting: Roobit


"Read my lips..."

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govmt going to collect fees to build a whole new regulatory agency. Bloat!
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"PASS IT SO WE CAN SEE WHAT IS IN IT" has struck again!

And you fuckers just sit idly by yapping on GLP like little bitches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56446269


I signed the petition, Hell i even sent it to a few of my friends

Those bastatrds did us dirty once again
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it also says in there that there will be new fees
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58351617


But but but.... i thought they said no new taxes or fees...

Crooked bastards.
 Quoting: Roobit


And you can keep your doctor...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64420740



If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Read my lips, "no new taxes!"
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I wonder what's in the psyche of democrats that forces them to hate their country and the American people so much?
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Page 42, section 99.. There it is! get ready to open the wallet folks..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68172602



What? That's a comment. Most of this thing is a listing of every comment posted in the 4 months they allowed public comments.
 Quoting: The Årtist


hesright





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