"We dance with the skulls in the church" MODERATED. UPDATED WITH CURRENT PAEDOPHILE ISSUES//LINKS P247.

sent it again Xx

Other forums are talking about this stuff too - but we want forums discussing direction: for example David Cameron has said people showing wilful neglect will get 5 years jail - but we need WILFUL NEGLECT DEFINED - IN DEFINITIVE TERMS - no more loopholes!!!!!!!


In this case - we need action: why did the police not pursue the case?? EU law states they ought to have done; if the tapes had not gone public - this would have all been put to bed already; yet it is illegal that the tapes went public ?????

to follow.

Thanks Ms!

Fuck that shit.

still waiting...

Thanks for moving this thread. I would like to know that since the previous OP was non existant on the other thread to the point of actually having to move it... how were many posts (including my own) deleted recently from that old thread. I wasn't the only one who mentioned their posts being deleted. WHO WAS ALLOWED TO DELETE THE POSTS??? WTF is going on here....I made one comment and got bad Karma and my post removed....

Thank you.

Last Edited by Sympol Mynz on 03/16/2015 10:20 PM

No problem we needed a clean slate to work on, and that is a good question my friend which I do not know the answer to Xx

for this to be covered up like this takes some major power pull. someone with a lot of power. my prayers are for the children and that they get Justice. good to keep the info up and running.

The AC that was the original poster was not a paid member so therefore the OP had no capability to delete posts within the thread.

If a paid member originates the thread, then the paid member can delete, etc.
This is from the "upgrade Account" link to the left: Ability to moderate your own threads: delete spam posts or ban specific users from posting on your threads

Otherwise any deleted posts were done by a Mod or an Admin.

Does that help?

It's too bad some intrepid investigative journalist or honest person of integrity couldn't go under cover and infiltrate these networks, collecting names, documents, photo/video, like Piscatone (sp?) did when he infiltrated the American Cosa Nostra. Might be the best way around a system that is already corrupted and can't be trusted to investigate itself.

The things these children have very obviously experienced are horrific and sickening...I don't see how they could have made all that up from a "Zorro" movie...They had to have seen and experienced it.

Gosh darn it...this was me - thought I was logged in.

yea BS, you can hear the child is making up the things :) they fill him or her with the gesture of this or that and the boy or girl continue rattling about it, the 2 kids have a weird imagination i have to say, little future psychopaths

actually the 2 that interview the kids need to be put behind bars, the gestures and so they tell them are in violation and the 2 kids need to be in a psychiatry, sex this sex that bla bla bla pff what a nonsense

AC you are more than entitled to an opinion, however I would ask that you don't voice it with a sneer and a smiley face given the nature of what is being dealt with here.

These children are damaged. This is clear. By Whom we know not atm however they have been damaged.

I misread what you wrote.
have you followed the whole case AC?

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Supposing covert ops were put in place - let's say - covert cctv - and this was discovered: you discover a large percentage of a community is involved with.... ritual behaviour based on ... some type of belief (not talking about those higher up right now).... you would need to empty your jail to put them in - disbanding a large number of families and you would need to replace all those positions in the community and re-shelter all the children from those families etc: we are talking a huge amount of people - maybe to the extent that it isn't even viable - I don't know - but if arrests did start happening - then we would see these systems crumble - because no one wants to lose their family or their stability etc. the real reason we don't see arrests is a combination of these two things - but what we do need is arrests - what is the point of law if it is rendered impotent by large scale organised crime?


The route to the top is much quicker than sweeping up the floor.


At the moment, as it is, because there is such a system in place - it means technically that all crime is incorporated and overseen by a small elite higher up: these have the power to change things lower down, but under what circumstances would they do that?


Ultimately they are going to want to self-protect and that means war to the death - and that means continuing to mis-guide:


For example - those lower down... let's look at religious incarceration: people who have been led to believe that these acts are righteous - in a religious sense: eating the flesh of Christ - drinking the blood of christ - I have no idea what amount of lunacies are in people's heads: the white lamb - purity etc; it seems to me that a large amount of what is happening is for the prevention of a Virgin birth - by ensuring no virginity etc - so from this standpoint - we need major religious leaders speaking out emphatically about interpretation of biblical word: these people in these cults may have been persuaded that they are doing the right thing but that they will be persecuted to the end in order to retain their place in the future kingdom etc and so you will be vying with indoctrinated belief forces; on the other hand those who have done wrong will endeavour in any way possible to deter the forthcoming of any messiahnic entity etc. so justice cannot be meted against them.


I don't want to hear about cognitive dissonance or any other baloney - ... how do you tell the ignorant they have been misled to such degrees as these - how do you tell those who have been tempted into a life of crime and who are bound by it that they should stop when they are bound by such constraints as: they will be beheaded or burnt alive if they leave? These people have seen and done evil that many are only now coming to hear about and which many will find incomprehensible or imaginable or in any way conceivable; the law at the moment does not act against these people - they act against each other and this is what keeps them bound; what if for once - law was enacted?

Forgiveness? Forgiveness perpetuates this disease... those who believe in forgiveness need to speak out now and save who they can by leading them forward in truth: truth that there will be justice and the time is at hand; whatever else you believe - believe that.


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If you really want to help stop pedophiles here is a website/organization dedicated to this. Perverted Justice.

Frostedblue, I am sorry I don't have the answers I am not a mod just a poster as you are .....maybe PM a mod with your concerns hun Xx

Not sure who it was there were a couple of mods interacting at 1st in the original thread, however I don't know which one it was, anyway, lets try again in a civil manner here.
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Abraham Jemal Christie abused the children and is now trumping up horror stories in hopes of creating doubt in jurors' minds as to where the children's scars came from.

Transparent as hell (where, unfortunately, he belongs).

I don't really wish for Christie to suffer the pains of hell; I do think he ought to be legally and physically prevented from contact with minors (and their gullible, starry-eyed mothers).

Thanks for the new thread, bumping to check out in the morning.

Prayers to those children

Amen--prayers for Alisa and Gabriel. May they be protected from the filth who got them into this mess.

Your opinion AC
this is why it needs a transparent court hearing in the public domain, because we DO need to find out who hurt them and I am afraid its been more than 1 person who knew them a matter of months.

And yes, I understand that he is devastated by the death of his own child, but that is a terrible, terrible (non)reason to extend abuse towards other people's children.

I'm sure he is in a lot of pain and needs a grief counselor to deal with his own child's death; however, I'm not convinced that losing ones child automatically turns one into a child abuser, and my deep suspicion is that he likely committed abuses toward his biological children as well. I get that he blames the mom, but again, I don't see the psychological profile indicating that the loss of a child, even at the hands of another adult (in his mind) statistically results in one suddenly beginning to abuse other children.

My guess is that like any abuser, he was abused as a child and has simply, sadly, become like his own father and/or mother or whoever hurt him.

They have almost no physical signs of abuse, and that fact is consistent with recent, limited abuse.

For Pete's sake, Abraham was brainless enough to film Alisa when she still had a fresh wound on her chin, courtesy of this maniac and his red-hot spoons.

And you're defending him.

Sick.

Do you mean Jemal Christie lost a son AC....I have not heard this info before do you have something you can link for me to read?

I am defending no one but the children my friend.

A son?

Oops, lol.

I didn't say a son.

Give it up Sabine, Araya or whoever.

We're not buying it.

You guys need to stop gushing over this wack job and keep him away from kids.