NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1060308 United States 03/18/2015 07:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! WHY WERE THE RUSSIANS NOT ARRESTED ?...ISN'T FLYING WITHOUT AN ACTIVATED TRANSPONDER SOME SORT OF A CRIME ?...IS THAT WHY THEY CALL IT CRIMEA ?...MAYBE THE RUSSIANS HAD TOO MUCH VODKA FOR ST. PATTY'S DAY & WILL APOLOGISE. LET'S NOT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS NOW! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54304290 Bulgaria 03/18/2015 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! WHY WERE THE RUSSIANS NOT ARRESTED ?...ISN'T FLYING WITHOUT AN ACTIVATED TRANSPONDER SOME SORT OF A CRIME ?...IS THAT WHY THEY CALL IT CRIMEA ?...MAYBE THE RUSSIANS HAD TOO MUCH VODKA FOR ST. PATTY'S DAY & WILL APOLOGISE. LET'S NOT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS NOW! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1060308 How do you arrest people flying with jets? Explain. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 03/18/2015 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! WHY WERE THE RUSSIANS NOT ARRESTED ?...ISN'T FLYING WITHOUT AN ACTIVATED TRANSPONDER SOME SORT OF A CRIME ?...IS THAT WHY THEY CALL IT CRIMEA ?...MAYBE THE RUSSIANS HAD TOO MUCH VODKA FOR ST. PATTY'S DAY & WILL APOLOGISE. LET'S NOT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS NOW! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1060308 That's all I know. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61801193 United States 03/18/2015 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! WHY WERE THE RUSSIANS NOT ARRESTED ?...ISN'T FLYING WITHOUT AN ACTIVATED TRANSPONDER SOME SORT OF A CRIME ?...IS THAT WHY THEY CALL IT CRIMEA ?...MAYBE THE RUSSIANS HAD TOO MUCH VODKA FOR ST. PATTY'S DAY & WILL APOLOGISE. LET'S NOT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS NOW! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1060308 How do you arrest people flying with jets? Explain. A huge net that shoots out and catches them then you tow them back and put them in the jail! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68599606 United States 03/18/2015 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! WHY WERE THE RUSSIANS NOT ARRESTED ?...ISN'T FLYING WITHOUT AN ACTIVATED TRANSPONDER SOME SORT OF A CRIME ?...IS THAT WHY THEY CALL IT CRIMEA ?...MAYBE THE RUSSIANS HAD TOO MUCH VODKA FOR ST. PATTY'S DAY & WILL APOLOGISE. LET'S NOT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS NOW! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1060308 That's all I know. Why aren't we nuking Iran right now?!?!?!?! |
Damnright2k14
User ID: 3578033 Germany 03/18/2015 07:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! WHY WERE THE RUSSIANS NOT ARRESTED ?...ISN'T FLYING WITHOUT AN ACTIVATED TRANSPONDER SOME SORT OF A CRIME ?...IS THAT WHY THEY CALL IT CRIMEA ?...MAYBE THE RUSSIANS HAD TOO MUCH VODKA FOR ST. PATTY'S DAY & WILL APOLOGISE. LET'S NOT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS NOW! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1060308 How do you arrest people flying with jets? Explain. A huge net that shoots out and catches them then you tow them back and put them in the jail! Damnright2k14 |
miabelieves
User ID: 58385225 United States 03/18/2015 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! WHY WERE THE RUSSIANS NOT ARRESTED ?...ISN'T FLYING WITHOUT AN ACTIVATED TRANSPONDER SOME SORT OF A CRIME ?...IS THAT WHY THEY CALL IT CRIMEA ?...MAYBE THE RUSSIANS HAD TOO MUCH VODKA FOR ST. PATTY'S DAY & WILL APOLOGISE. LET'S NOT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS NOW! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1060308 How do you arrest people flying with jets? Explain. A huge net that shoots out and catches them then you tow them back and put them in the jail! how old are you? Hold on to your undies, it's gonna be a hell of a ride |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 03/18/2015 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! [link to answers.yahoo.com (secure)] :FROM LINK: As a retired airline captain, I'd like to add my "two cents" worth. First of all, the flight crew has to be able to turn off every single piece of electronic equipment from the cockpit in the event of an emergency such as an electrical fire. Just look at the disastrous results of Swissair 111 off the east coast of Canada - the plane had an internal fire within the in-flight entertainment system that the pilots could not switch off due to improper wiring. Second of all, an aircraft can be tracked with the transponder off, but just not at most commercial airports. There are two types of radar - primary surveillance radar PSR and secondary surveillance radar SSR. PSR is what the military uses and it can detect any object that reflects the radar waves including airplanes with the transponder turned off. SSR is what air traffic controllers (ATC) use at commercial airports to track commercial aircraft as well as military aircraft squawking their IFF codes. The transponder provides a lot more information to ATC than a 'blip' on PSR, such as the aircraft identification through the unique squawk code and its altitude. There have been many instances of PSR being used to help aircraft navigate safely to an airport in case of transponder failure or a complete electrical failure. Fortunately, it never happened to me, but its been done. With all the military airports in the northeast US, it should have been possible to easily track those 4 doomed airliners, but if you look a tthe reality of it all, nobody expected the consequences. Its easy with 20/20 hindsight to look back at it and realize the mistakes that were made. Even if the aircraft were tracked on PSR, what were the ATC and military authorities supposed to do? Up until 9/11 pretty well every hijacked commercial plane landed safely at an airport other than its intended destination, so its not right just to shoot down a plane because the transponder signal is turned off! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 03/18/2015 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! [link to www.express.co.uk] FROM LINK: The Russian planes were flying with their transponders off close to EU countries Lithuania and Latvia at around 11.30pm, it was reported. A spokesman for the Lithuanian defence ministry said: "NATO fighter-jets were scrambled to identify the aircraft. "They identified two An-26 transport airplanes, one An-12 transport airplane and an additional group of eight aircraft including Su-27 and Su-34 fighter-jets. "The Russian airplanes had their transponders switched off, had not provided flight plans, and refused to establish contact," said a report by the Baltic News Service. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68570767 United States 03/18/2015 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! WHY WERE THE RUSSIANS NOT ARRESTED ?...ISN'T FLYING WITHOUT AN ACTIVATED TRANSPONDER SOME SORT OF A CRIME ?...IS THAT WHY THEY CALL IT CRIMEA ?...MAYBE THE RUSSIANS HAD TOO MUCH VODKA FOR ST. PATTY'S DAY & WILL APOLOGISE. LET'S NOT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS NOW! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1060308 How do you arrest people flying with jets? Explain. You don't. If they are over international waters, you call them out. If they are flying with transponders off and go over sovereign airspace, they should just be shot down. No warnings. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60794475 Russia 03/18/2015 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! WHY WERE THE RUSSIANS NOT ARRESTED ?...ISN'T FLYING WITHOUT AN ACTIVATED TRANSPONDER SOME SORT OF A CRIME ?...IS THAT WHY THEY CALL IT CRIMEA ?...MAYBE THE RUSSIANS HAD TOO MUCH VODKA FOR ST. PATTY'S DAY & WILL APOLOGISE. LET'S NOT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS NOW! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1060308 How do you arrest people flying with jets? Explain. Easy! Just shut down! No? Why? |
eV3y
User ID: 67907218 United States 03/18/2015 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! I wonder if that coincided with the times I heard the Russian numbers stations go nuts, it was early this morning I'd have to check on the time zone differences. Thread: Skyking in effect multiple signals (Page 95) I'm not hearing UVB-76 anymore.....channel 4625. The Buzzer. Quoting: eV3y Just static. Can anyone else verify, I thought it didn't go offline? Maybe the sunburst affected it? Whoa....5448 the Pip is transmitting codes.... Squeaky Wheel is static The Buzzer - 4625 kHz The Pip - 5448 kHz by day, and 3756 kHz by night The Squeaky Wheel - 3650 kHz, 3815 kHz, 5474 kHz, and 5641 kHz I know this happens on occasion, but simultaneously? That's just too eerie. Last Edited by eV3y on 03/18/2015 08:41 AM *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* I can't force people to accept the truth, but I can expose them to it. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 03/18/2015 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! I wonder if that coincided with the times I heard the Russian numbers stations go nuts, it was early this morning I'd have to check on the time zone differences. Quoting: eV3y www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2513490/pg95#49405911 I'm not hearing UVB-76 anymore.....channel 4625. The Buzzer. Quoting: eV3y Just static. Can anyone else verify, I thought it didn't go offline? Maybe the sunburst affected it? Whoa....5448 the Pip is transmitting codes.... Squeaky Wheel is static The Buzzer - 4625 kHz The Pip - 5448 kHz by day, and 3756 kHz by night The Squeaky Wheel - 3650 kHz, 3815 kHz, 5474 kHz, and 5641 kHz I know this happens on occasion, but simultaneously? That's just too eerie. I bet you are right on the money. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 60794475 Russia 03/18/2015 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! WHY WERE THE RUSSIANS NOT ARRESTED ?...ISN'T FLYING WITHOUT AN ACTIVATED TRANSPONDER SOME SORT OF A CRIME ?...IS THAT WHY THEY CALL IT CRIMEA ?...MAYBE THE RUSSIANS HAD TOO MUCH VODKA FOR ST. PATTY'S DAY & WILL APOLOGISE. LET'S NOT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS NOW! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1060308 How do you arrest people flying with jets? Explain. Easy! Just shut down! No? Why? No answer - only Psaki detected here. They have no logic. Completely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68567028 United Kingdom 03/18/2015 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! [link to www.express.co.uk] Quoting: Mountain Woman FROM LINK: The Russian planes were flying with their transponders off close to EU countries Lithuania and Latvia at around 11.30pm, it was reported. A spokesman for the Lithuanian defence ministry said: "NATO fighter-jets were scrambled to identify the aircraft. "They identified two An-26 transport airplanes, one An-12 transport airplane and an additional group of eight aircraft including Su-27 and Su-34 fighter-jets. "The Russian airplanes had their transponders switched off, had not provided flight plans, and refused to establish contact," said a report by the Baltic News Service. The make up of the current NATO Air Policing for the region comes from the airforces of Italy, Belgium, Poland and Spain (Eurofighters, MIG29s and F16s) |
eV3y
User ID: 67908277 United States 03/18/2015 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! I noticed it started around 2:00 am EST, there were Chinese & Russian voices on the same frequency - and if you're familiar with the # stations, they're the ones that rarely if ever go offline since the Cold War and nobody's sure what they're used for. That I'm aware of anyways. If you search for the Buzzer, the Pip & the Squeaky Wheel online it'll tell you more. But the frequencies were off, not making any noises, and the ones that were did nothing but transmit codes and you could overhear the different conversations back & forth on them which is supposedly a rare event. But it wasn't anything like background noise or overlapping, the Russian male, Russian female, and Chinese male were all on the same channel having a conversation back & forth, what sounded like confirming messages. Still don't know what to make of it, but this thread has me highly suspicious. Started on thread page 95. Last Edited by eV3y on 03/18/2015 08:51 AM *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* I can't force people to accept the truth, but I can expose them to it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45349794 United Kingdom 03/18/2015 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! no military plane has to have its transponders turned on ....Only civilians aircraft..But you still have to legally make a flight path for aircraft even miitary and submit those flight paths to airports long the route so airtower controllers can make adjustments to move possible threats away to avoid collisions..... So yes they been flying without transponders but they did submit a flight plan. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 03/18/2015 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! I noticed it started around 2:00 am EST, there were Chinese & Russian voices on the same frequency - and if you're familiar with the # stations, they're the ones that rarely if ever go offline since the Cold War and nobody's sure what they're used for. That I'm aware of anyways. If you search for the Buzzer, the Pip & the Squeaky Wheel online it'll tell you more. But the frequencies were off, not making any noises, and the ones that were did nothing but transmit codes and you could overhear the different conversations back & forth on them which is supposedly a rare event. But it wasn't anything like background noise or overlapping, the Russian male, Russian female, and Chinese male were all on the same channel having a conversation back & forth, what sounded like confirming messages. Still don't know what to make of it, but this thread has me highly suspicious. Started on thread page 95. Wow, I bet it is related. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60794475 Russia 03/18/2015 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! WHY WERE THE RUSSIANS NOT ARRESTED ?...ISN'T FLYING WITHOUT AN ACTIVATED TRANSPONDER SOME SORT OF A CRIME ?...IS THAT WHY THEY CALL IT CRIMEA ?...MAYBE THE RUSSIANS HAD TOO MUCH VODKA FOR ST. PATTY'S DAY & WILL APOLOGISE. LET'S NOT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS NOW! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1060308 How do you arrest people flying with jets? Explain. Easy! Just shut down! No? Why? Ansver for morans we do not break the rules |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8202346 Croatia 03/18/2015 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NATO Jets Scrambled From Lithuania Overnight to Escort 11 Russian Warplanes - transponders switched off and no flight plans! OH anything to amuse sheeple and blame Russia for war games so sheeple will not watch how war mongers and imperialists poking the bear NATO Black Sea military drills [link to tass.ru] |