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lol...

Saudi FM Jubeir refused to take calls from Kerry about severing relations with Iran.

Kerry was forced to speak with the Saudi defense minister.

The DF told him it was out of his hands.


Bitch slap.
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LOL Gave him the old kiss off...

:Donkeykiss:
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lmao
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Saud orders all Saudi citizens to leave Iran immediately.
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I posted this in another thread. I watched a documentary the other day that focused on the Shi'ite versus Sunni wars that began in approximately 11AD. It was during this period that assassination was first used as a primary mode of war and the first time terrorist cells were created. It was also the first time Shi'ites and Sunnis began assassinating each other's clerics.

They have not evolved much since 11AD.
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Brother against brother. Each claims the mahdi is of their own and won't stop until only one remains.
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US markets are plunging in early trading.
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DOW -418
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BREAKING: Dow Jones index drops 450 points; worst stock market opening in 84 years - CNBC


current: -470
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And oil is back in the red. Took back all gains and is now in the 36 handle.
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China markets suspended trading, it started tanking right from the get go and fell like a rock.
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DOW -418
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BREAKING: Dow Jones index drops 450 points; worst stock market opening in 84 years - CNBC


current: -470
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And oil is back in the red. Took back all gains and is now in the 36 handle.
 Quoting: Earth Cries


China markets suspended trading, it started tanking right from the get go and fell like a rock.
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Think they fell like 7% which is huge. Markets here, I believe, stop trading at 5% loss.
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BREAKING: Iranian official says Teheran will issue 'severe' retaliatory measures against the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
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FARS is running a story that states that Oman is criticizing Saud for breaking relations with Iran.

uh...
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BREAKING: Iranian official says Teheran will issue 'severe' retaliatory measures against the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
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European stocks posted the worst start to a year ever
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Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hossein Jaber Ansari: Tehran will use all its possibilities to deter Riyadh's policies
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Jaber Ansari on possible Russian mediation of the tensions:

"If Saudi Arabia's policies were based on logic and reason, there would be no need for mediation in relations between the two neighbors, but as long as Saudi Arabia's policy rests on this basis, there is no possibility for the development of relations"
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Iraqi protesters demand that their government cut ties with Saudi Arabia: [link to apne.ws]
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Arab League to hold urgent meeting in Cairo
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Meeting to take place Sunday
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Iraqi protesters demand that their government cut ties with Saudi Arabia: [link to apne.ws]
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The lines are clear cut from what I have gathered. It's going to be in the hands of the proxies once orders of battle are set. Then we shall see the major powers get openly involved.

The Straits of Hormuz should be looked at. Iran can sink Saudi tankers and supers. I wonder will the USN make a heavy presence in the region in the name of "freedom of navigation"...
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The UN envoy for Syria will be heading to Saudi Arabia and then Iran.
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Arab League to hold urgent meeting in Cairo
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Meeting to take place Sunday
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I would think urgent would be like....today
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Arab League to hold urgent meeting in Cairo
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Meeting to take place Sunday
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That's a week away...wonder what their definition of "urgent" is?
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The UN envoy for Syria will be heading to Saudi Arabia and then Iran.
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I posted this up on Janey's thread in terms of where I see things going.

My take on the situation is this:

1.) All diplomatic ties have been severed amongst the Sunni ruled nation-states against the Shia aka Persian (Iran). That was bound to happen due to an Ayatollah being executed at the behest of a dementia ridden King Salman of the KSA.

2.) All forms of commerce, trade, and cooperation have been cut.

3.) Soon we will all bear witness to a major increase of the Proxy Wars. Pay strict attention at the Shia-dominated forces in Yemen. They've made serious gains inside the southern regions of the KSA. Expect that to heat up to the point where it goes hot.

4.) All eyes will be on Iran due to the free navigation of the Straits of Hormuz. They'll be targeting Saudi oil tankers and supers.

5.) Expect to see a rapid build-up of foreign military forces in the region, as the major powers ramp up their proxies to the point where the big kids step into the playground to fight.

6.) Oil. Oil. Oil. The global markets will crumble and panic once it all goes wild weasel.

That's where I see things going for the time being. Everything is subject to change as you all know. That being said, what I hypothesized is strictly probability, not a certainty.

Stay frosty.

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Arab League to hold urgent meeting in Cairo
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Meeting to take place Sunday
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I would think urgent would be like....today
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ikr
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BREAKING: Police lockdown of the Tzanz\Belz neighborhood, all residents told to remain inside.
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BREAKING: Police lockdown of the Tzanz\Belz neighborhood, all residents told to remain inside.
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appears to be a routine suspicious package
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Saud turns down Russian/French mediation offers

Yep. Knew that was coming. It's all or nothing now.
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Iraqi protesters demand that their government cut ties with Saudi Arabia: [link to apne.ws]
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The lines are clear cut from what I have gathered. It's going to be in the hands of the proxies once orders of battle are set. Then we shall see the major powers get openly involved.

The Straits of Hormuz should be looked at. Iran can sink Saudi tankers and supers. I wonder will the USN make a heavy presence in the region in the name of "freedom of navigation"...
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I thought almost all of our ships had left the gulf. Do we have anything left there ?
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UAE Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Anwar Gargash:

"There is an Iranian escalation of sectarian rhetoric on sovereign issues. Iran deals with the duality of State and revolution. The Arab world is saying ENOUGH!"
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UAE Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Anwar Gargash:

"There is an Iranian escalation of sectarian rhetoric on sovereign issues. Iran deals with the duality of State and revolution. The Arab world is saying ENOUGH!"
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"Iran has no right of exerting a sectarian mandate beyond its borders."
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Iraqi protesters demand that their government cut ties with Saudi Arabia: [link to apne.ws]
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The lines are clear cut from what I have gathered. It's going to be in the hands of the proxies once orders of battle are set. Then we shall see the major powers get openly involved.

The Straits of Hormuz should be looked at. Iran can sink Saudi tankers and supers. I wonder will the USN make a heavy presence in the region in the name of "freedom of navigation"...
 Quoting: NobleSix


I thought almost all of our ships had left the gulf. Do we have anything left there ?
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The 5th Fleet is still HQ'd out of Bahrain, so I can see us having a few naval assets out there, but nothing heavy. Most of the Fleets are focused on the Pacific or are in port for repair and refits that are not happening in timely manner.
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Saud turns down Russian/French mediation offers

Yep. Knew that was coming. It's all or nothing now.
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Apparently so, Jazzy.
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Iran: ‘Knowledge and Capability to Build the Atomic Bomb is Necessary’

Iran’s centrifuges ‘getting power for this divine government’

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BREAKING: Siege ends near #India's Afghan consulate after all attackers killed, officials say - @AFP
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Unconfirmed: Dahiya neighborhood now being evacuated for fear of an Israeli response
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Lebanese media is reporting that now
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