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User ID: 70419932 United States 08/02/2016 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
Godzilla1980
Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States 08/02/2016 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | learned and adopted new rule at pub last night...don't talk politics or religion there either....almost turned into a brawl...(yeah I almost got involved) For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF |
Earth Cries
User ID: 70419932 United States 08/02/2016 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | learned and adopted new rule at pub last night...don't talk politics or religion there either....almost turned into a brawl...(yeah I almost got involved) LOL Cardinal rule of pubs...don't talk politics or religion. The young are learning. LOL Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
Godzilla1980
Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States 08/02/2016 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | learned and adopted new rule at pub last night...don't talk politics or religion there either....almost turned into a brawl...(yeah I almost got involved) LOL Cardinal rule of pubs...don't talk politics or religion. The young are learning. LOL only part I got heated when it was suggested that I was a not so smart person to put it lightly...I'm a lot of things...but stupid is definitely not one of em and I take great exception to it when it's suggested....I didn't even have a problem with the guys arguments, I am set in how I feel and am not going to change based on what others think they are free to think as they wish and I won't criticize it so safe to say I'm a friend shorter now For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF |
Earth Cries
User ID: 70419932 United States 08/02/2016 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lou Dobbs ‏@LouDobbs 36s36 seconds ago Rio Cursed? Freak waves lash Olympic broadcasting building on Copacabana beach Couldn't pay me to go there. Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
Godzilla1980
Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States 08/02/2016 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lou Dobbs ‏@LouDobbs 36s36 seconds ago Quoting: Earth Cries Rio Cursed? Freak waves lash Olympic broadcasting building on Copacabana beach Couldn't pay me to go there. yeah I'd stay away....I don't get good vibes about the games there...we may have another "munich" type incident For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF |
Earth Cries
User ID: 70419932 United States 08/02/2016 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | learned and adopted new rule at pub last night...don't talk politics or religion there either....almost turned into a brawl...(yeah I almost got involved) LOL Cardinal rule of pubs...don't talk politics or religion. The young are learning. LOL only part I got heated when it was suggested that I was a not so smart person to put it lightly...I'm a lot of things...but stupid is definitely not one of em and I take great exception to it when it's suggested....I didn't even have a problem with the guys arguments, I am set in how I feel and am not going to change based on what others think they are free to think as they wish and I won't criticize it so safe to say I'm a friend shorter now I know what you're saying, Zilla. I've lost a lot of so called "friends" over the years for telling the truth of things. Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
Godzilla1980
Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States 08/02/2016 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Godzilla1980 learned and adopted new rule at pub last night...don't talk politics or religion there either....almost turned into a brawl...(yeah I almost got involved) LOL Cardinal rule of pubs...don't talk politics or religion. The young are learning. LOL only part I got heated when it was suggested that I was a not so smart person to put it lightly...I'm a lot of things...but stupid is definitely not one of em and I take great exception to it when it's suggested....I didn't even have a problem with the guys arguments, I am set in how I feel and am not going to change based on what others think they are free to think as they wish and I won't criticize it so safe to say I'm a friend shorter now I know what you're saying, Zilla. I've lost a lot of so called "friends" over the years for telling the truth of things. yeah I don't look for people to agree with me all the time...if we did it would be boring and I don't believe innovation and new thoughts can come of always being in agreement, conflict is a healthy thing when done properly. Some people just don't know how to handle disagreement. For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF |
Earth Cries
User ID: 70419932 United States 08/02/2016 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Earth Cries LOL Cardinal rule of pubs...don't talk politics or religion. The young are learning. LOL only part I got heated when it was suggested that I was a not so smart person to put it lightly...I'm a lot of things...but stupid is definitely not one of em and I take great exception to it when it's suggested....I didn't even have a problem with the guys arguments, I am set in how I feel and am not going to change based on what others think they are free to think as they wish and I won't criticize it so safe to say I'm a friend shorter now I know what you're saying, Zilla. I've lost a lot of so called "friends" over the years for telling the truth of things. yeah I don't look for people to agree with me all the time...if we did it would be boring and I don't believe innovation and new thoughts can come of always being in agreement, conflict is a healthy thing when done properly. Some people just don't know how to handle disagreement. Very true. But there is a world of difference in disagreeing and combative stubborn hard head thinking. LOL Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
Godzilla1980
Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States 08/02/2016 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Godzilla1980 only part I got heated when it was suggested that I was a not so smart person to put it lightly...I'm a lot of things...but stupid is definitely not one of em and I take great exception to it when it's suggested....I didn't even have a problem with the guys arguments, I am set in how I feel and am not going to change based on what others think they are free to think as they wish and I won't criticize it so safe to say I'm a friend shorter now I know what you're saying, Zilla. I've lost a lot of so called "friends" over the years for telling the truth of things. yeah I don't look for people to agree with me all the time...if we did it would be boring and I don't believe innovation and new thoughts can come of always being in agreement, conflict is a healthy thing when done properly. Some people just don't know how to handle disagreement. Very true. But there is a world of difference in disagreeing and combative stubborn hard head thinking. LOL true...lol For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF |
Earth Cries
User ID: 70419932 United States 08/02/2016 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CNN International ‏@cnni 7m7 minutes ago UNESCO has placed five World Heritage Sites in Libya on its list of locations in danger [link to cnn.it] Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
NobleSix
User ID: 62524796 United States 08/02/2016 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | learned and adopted new rule at pub last night...don't talk politics or religion there either....almost turned into a brawl...(yeah I almost got involved) You're the top of the primordial ecosystem! You would've floored that pub with one swing of your mighty long tail! *I'm sure of it* NobleSix “Seven Deadly Sins: Wealth without work, Pleasure without conscience, Science without humanity, Knowledge without character, Politics without principle, Commerce without morality, Worship without sacrifice.” - Mahatma Gandhi "Socialists destroy the economy piece by piece, but Fascists step in during the chaos and kill the host." - The GoldenJackass "The lessons that we learn are written on the tombstones of others." - Reid Henrichs - Valor Ridge "Marcus. Never end the fight!" - Lt.Mike "Murph" Murphy USN SEAL - Team Leader of Spartan 01 - Operation Red Wings 06/28/05 "Why don't you go preach that in all those wealthy Arab countries who are taking zero refugees, pope? Oh, right. Because preaching, at all, over there, will get your head cut off." "These people aren't fleeing oppression. They're spreading it." - Revbo "Your comment is not only illogical; it promotes a double standard that tells women they can act without accountability. That's not #Equality: that's #Impunity. Congratulations to you for advocating sexism against men." -Firebrand Central |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58533798 United States 08/02/2016 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Update on Incirlik AB. Quoting: NobleSix [link to www.news.com.au] [link to shoebat.com] My POV - It's simply a matter of when, not if, Erdogan gives the green-light to his irregulars that have Incirlik surrounded, to storm the base proper. Expect to see diversions and distractions come into play over there. If he is to succeed at all in this insane endeavour, surprise and speed will have to be on his side. On the flipside, USAF personnel both tactical and support will have their jobs cut out for them. They cannot afford the base to be overrun. Hence, whatever is happening with their NATO allies on the base must be coordinated for common defense and ultimately, evacuation of all assets, personnel, and materiels. Enter Marine Corps General Dunford, the IG (Inspecting General). if he is smart and locked on, he would have both a MEU/SOC BLT and NAVSPECWAR assets somewhere on station off the coast of Turkey, preferably Greece, ready to go in on his call. Obama be damned in terms of contravening his authority as field commander. The Base Commander should have USAF/AFSOC elements ready too for this contingency. If surrender happens like it did in the Philippines during WWII, it will be a slaughter. Count on it. Survival is their only option and that means be ready to defend the base. Turkish AF units will have to be neutralized to ensure zero interference from Erdogan and heaven help our pilots should the Turks utilize MANPADS against them while they're taking off the runway. The entire scenario is TARFU in my opinion, but not impossible to win. The nukes aka B-61's needs to be flown out asap. Lives hang in the balance on this. Hussein Obama may trigger Civil War 2.0 here in CONUS to cover up his duplicity should things go Benghazi 2.0 at Incirlik. He knows what is happening over there. He opts to side with his people and faith... Islam. My head is spinning with probable scenarios for Incirlik, but this seems the most probable to me for the time being. DISTRACTION. DIVERSION. DIVISION. The connections are there for all the world to see. The masses simply want to have need to see it in order to stop it. A most futile thing to ask. Both Ergodan and Obama would ignore the lost lives of the Americans as Obama idly makes those nukes accessible to Erdogan, or plans such fantastically stupid fiascos in an attempt to save both the Americans and nukes then shrug and say "oh well I tried". To me, that has been in play since the very beginning. In other words, this is Obama handing the nukes off followed by crocodile tears ceremonies with nothing but shreds in the caskets. It is for the very reason you said - Obama is going to side with his people and his faith. Then a fight it will be then. I'd rather fight to keep those devices out of Erdogan's hands than simply fucking acquiesce. The can always be a dead man switch with the base commander, connected to a live nuke. All other nukes and equipment would be vaporized. It would assure no nukes in muslim hands. |
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JazzyG
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 3448973 United States 08/02/2016 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So close, the infinitesimal and the infinite. Quoting: JazzyG Suddenly, I knew they were really the two ends of the same concept. The unbelievably small and the unbelievably vast eventually meet, like the closing of a gigantic circle. I looked up as if somehow I would grasp the Heavens, the universe, worlds beyond number. G-d's silver tapestry spread across the night. And in that moment I knew the answer to the riddle of the infinite. I had thought in terms of man's own limited dimension. I had presumed upon nature...that existence begins and ends, is man's conception, not G-ds'. And I felt my body dwindling, melting....becoming....nothing. And in that moment my fears melted away and in their place came....acceptance. All this vast majesty of creation means something. And then I meant something too. Yes, smaller than the smallest, I meant something too. TO G-D, THERE IS NO ZERO. That, Achoti, is Torah. Ki Tov. G'morning Haun. Yes it is. It's actually the final scene from The Incredible Shrinking Man but it IS Torah to the core. I posted it in another thread for a friend of ours who seemed to need it and thought you guys here might like it too. Last Edited by ~Jazzy~ on 08/02/2016 12:01 PM To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
NobleSix
User ID: 62524796 United States 08/02/2016 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Update on Incirlik AB. Quoting: NobleSix [link to www.news.com.au] [link to shoebat.com] My POV - It's simply a matter of when, not if, Erdogan gives the green-light to his irregulars that have Incirlik surrounded, to storm the base proper. Expect to see diversions and distractions come into play over there. If he is to succeed at all in this insane endeavour, surprise and speed will have to be on his side. On the flipside, USAF personnel both tactical and support will have their jobs cut out for them. They cannot afford the base to be overrun. Hence, whatever is happening with their NATO allies on the base must be coordinated for common defense and ultimately, evacuation of all assets, personnel, and materiels. Enter Marine Corps General Dunford, the IG (Inspecting General). if he is smart and locked on, he would have both a MEU/SOC BLT and NAVSPECWAR assets somewhere on station off the coast of Turkey, preferably Greece, ready to go in on his call. Obama be damned in terms of contravening his authority as field commander. The Base Commander should have USAF/AFSOC elements ready too for this contingency. If surrender happens like it did in the Philippines during WWII, it will be a slaughter. Count on it. Survival is their only option and that means be ready to defend the base. Turkish AF units will have to be neutralized to ensure zero interference from Erdogan and heaven help our pilots should the Turks utilize MANPADS against them while they're taking off the runway. The entire scenario is TARFU in my opinion, but not impossible to win. The nukes aka B-61's needs to be flown out asap. Lives hang in the balance on this. Hussein Obama may trigger Civil War 2.0 here in CONUS to cover up his duplicity should things go Benghazi 2.0 at Incirlik. He knows what is happening over there. He opts to side with his people and faith... Islam. My head is spinning with probable scenarios for Incirlik, but this seems the most probable to me for the time being. DISTRACTION. DIVERSION. DIVISION. The connections are there for all the world to see. The masses simply want to have need to see it in order to stop it. A most futile thing to ask. Both Ergodan and Obama would ignore the lost lives of the Americans as Obama idly makes those nukes accessible to Erdogan, or plans such fantastically stupid fiascos in an attempt to save both the Americans and nukes then shrug and say "oh well I tried". To me, that has been in play since the very beginning. In other words, this is Obama handing the nukes off followed by crocodile tears ceremonies with nothing but shreds in the caskets. It is for the very reason you said - Obama is going to side with his people and his faith. Then a fight it will be then. I'd rather fight to keep those devices out of Erdogan's hands than simply fucking acquiesce. The can always be a dead man switch with the base commander, connected to a live nuke. All other nukes and equipment would be vaporized. It would assure no nukes in muslim hands. A remote, but distinct possibility. That level of secrecy would have to be airtight so no one would know of such a contingency exists. NobleSix “Seven Deadly Sins: Wealth without work, Pleasure without conscience, Science without humanity, Knowledge without character, Politics without principle, Commerce without morality, Worship without sacrifice.” - Mahatma Gandhi "Socialists destroy the economy piece by piece, but Fascists step in during the chaos and kill the host." - The GoldenJackass "The lessons that we learn are written on the tombstones of others." - Reid Henrichs - Valor Ridge "Marcus. Never end the fight!" - Lt.Mike "Murph" Murphy USN SEAL - Team Leader of Spartan 01 - Operation Red Wings 06/28/05 "Why don't you go preach that in all those wealthy Arab countries who are taking zero refugees, pope? Oh, right. Because preaching, at all, over there, will get your head cut off." "These people aren't fleeing oppression. They're spreading it." - Revbo "Your comment is not only illogical; it promotes a double standard that tells women they can act without accountability. That's not #Equality: that's #Impunity. Congratulations to you for advocating sexism against men." -Firebrand Central |
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JazzyG
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 3448973 United States 08/02/2016 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
JazzyG
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 3448973 United States 08/02/2016 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Beijing tightens maritime rules after South China Sea case [link to www.france24.com] To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
JazzyG
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 3448973 United States 08/02/2016 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China must prepare for 'people's war at sea': minister China's Defence Minister has urged preparations for a "people's war at sea" to counter offshore security threats and safeguard sovereignty, state media reported Tuesday. Chang Wanquan's comments came several weeks after an international tribunal dismissed the country's claim to most of the South China Sea, a judgement it angrily rejected. [link to www.yahoo.com (secure)] To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
NobleSix
User ID: 62524796 United States 08/02/2016 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just waiting for the tinderbox to be lit. The shot heard around the world... NobleSix “Seven Deadly Sins: Wealth without work, Pleasure without conscience, Science without humanity, Knowledge without character, Politics without principle, Commerce without morality, Worship without sacrifice.” - Mahatma Gandhi "Socialists destroy the economy piece by piece, but Fascists step in during the chaos and kill the host." - The GoldenJackass "The lessons that we learn are written on the tombstones of others." - Reid Henrichs - Valor Ridge "Marcus. Never end the fight!" - Lt.Mike "Murph" Murphy USN SEAL - Team Leader of Spartan 01 - Operation Red Wings 06/28/05 "Why don't you go preach that in all those wealthy Arab countries who are taking zero refugees, pope? Oh, right. Because preaching, at all, over there, will get your head cut off." "These people aren't fleeing oppression. They're spreading it." - Revbo "Your comment is not only illogical; it promotes a double standard that tells women they can act without accountability. That's not #Equality: that's #Impunity. Congratulations to you for advocating sexism against men." -Firebrand Central |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58533798 United States 08/02/2016 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: -Haun- Both Ergodan and Obama would ignore the lost lives of the Americans as Obama idly makes those nukes accessible to Erdogan, or plans such fantastically stupid fiascos in an attempt to save both the Americans and nukes then shrug and say "oh well I tried". To me, that has been in play since the very beginning. In other words, this is Obama handing the nukes off followed by crocodile tears ceremonies with nothing but shreds in the caskets. It is for the very reason you said - Obama is going to side with his people and his faith. Then a fight it will be then. I'd rather fight to keep those devices out of Erdogan's hands than simply fucking acquiesce. The can always be a dead man switch with the base commander, connected to a live nuke. All other nukes and equipment would be vaporized. It would assure no nukes in muslim hands. A remote, but distinct possibility. That level of secrecy would have to be airtight so no one would know of such a contingency exists. You misunderstand what I meant or I worded it poorly... I meant that as a fool-proof way of preventing the muslims from getting our nuclear weapons, not that it was the actual situation. Sorry for the misunderstanding. |
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Godzilla1980
Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States 08/02/2016 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China must prepare for 'people's war at sea': minister Quoting: JazzyG China's Defence Minister has urged preparations for a "people's war at sea" to counter offshore security threats and safeguard sovereignty, state media reported Tuesday. Chang Wanquan's comments came several weeks after an international tribunal dismissed the country's claim to most of the South China Sea, a judgement it angrily rejected. [link to www.yahoo.com (secure)] don't they have like 300 ships in South China Sea now for an "exercise"? For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF |
JazzyG
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 3448973 United States 08/02/2016 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The worst possible thing to happen. IS for nothing dramatic to happen, and it is just a drip drip drip water torture Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box same old same old like a turd floating in the punch bowl. Yep. But that drip can only go on for so long before somebody cries wolf or dies. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
JazzyG
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 3448973 United States 08/02/2016 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China must prepare for 'people's war at sea': minister Quoting: JazzyG China's Defence Minister has urged preparations for a "people's war at sea" to counter offshore security threats and safeguard sovereignty, state media reported Tuesday. Chang Wanquan's comments came several weeks after an international tribunal dismissed the country's claim to most of the South China Sea, a judgement it angrily rejected. [link to www.yahoo.com (secure)] don't they have like 300 ships in South China Sea now for an "exercise"? Yep. I posted this on the China thread on the main. China had the drills planned even before the UN verdict on the SCS Islands but beefed it up in a show of force after the verdict was against them. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
JazzyG
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 3448973 United States 08/02/2016 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Japan warns China over ‘coercive’ actions in disputed waters Japan has slammed what it called China’s “coercive” measures in the South China Sea, warning that Beijing’s resolve to push ahead with its “unilateral demands” in the disputed waters could have “unintended consequences.” [link to presstv.ir] To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |