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Noble Six
 User ID: 73869720  United States08/22/2017 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fox NewsVerified account @FoxNews 5m5 minutes ago Quoting: Earth Cries Is someone hacking our 7th Fleet? Navy to investigate after USS John S McCain collision You know it would either be China.Russia or NK...the list is short... I already stated my views on that on another thread. The Navy has been attacked via EW (Electronic Warfare), pure and simple. There's no incompetence involved. The Navy has too much pride to acknowledge they've been hacked and that would promote fear and uncertainty throughout the Fleets. NobleSix “Seven Deadly Sins: Wealth without work, Pleasure without conscience, Science without humanity, Knowledge without character, Politics without principle, Commerce without morality, Worship without sacrifice.” - Mahatma Gandhi "Socialists destroy the economy piece by piece, but Fascists step in during the chaos and kill the host." - The GoldenJackass "The lessons that we learn are written on the tombstones of others." - Reid Henrichs - Valor Ridge "Marcus. Never end the fight!" - Lt.Mike "Murph" Murphy USN SEAL - Team Leader of Spartan 01 - Operation Red Wings 06/28/05 "Why don't you go preach that in all those wealthy Arab countries who are taking zero refugees, pope? Oh, right. Because preaching, at all, over there, will get your head cut off." "These people aren't fleeing oppression. They're spreading it." - Revbo "Your comment is not only illogical; it promotes a double standard that tells women they can act without accountability. That's not #Equality: that's #Impunity. Congratulations to you for advocating sexism against men." -Firebrand Central |
| Earth Cries
User ID: 71050108 United States08/22/2017 11:56 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fox Navy says cyber sabotage played 'no role' in USS John S. McCain incident Quoting: Earth Cries Uh Huh... Ok. So then they WILLINGLY just sat there and let the merchant ship ram them. Used to have a "watch" to make sure this didn't happen. Eyes on no more? Electronics will be their downfall. Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
~Jazzy~
(OP)Forum Administrator User ID: 75017870 United States08/22/2017 12:00 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fox NewsVerified account @FoxNews 5m5 minutes ago Quoting: Earth Cries Is someone hacking our 7th Fleet? Navy to investigate after USS John S McCain collision You know it would either be China.Russia or NK...the list is short... I already stated my views on that on another thread. The Navy has been attacked via EW (Electronic Warfare), pure and simple. There's no incompetence involved. The Navy has too much pride to acknowledge they've been hacked and that would promote fear and uncertainty throughout the Fleets. They were hacked but I'm not buying the 'spreading fear' part. 1 ok. 2 MAYBE. But 4...NOPE. The entire branch knows what's up. They're not stupid. Even the below deck cooks know what's going on. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| ~Jazzy~
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 75017870 United States08/22/2017 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fox Navy says cyber sabotage played 'no role' in USS John S. McCain incident Quoting: Earth Cries Uh Huh... Ok. So then they WILLINGLY just sat there and let the merchant ship ram them. Used to have a "watch" to make sure this didn't happen. Eyes on no more? Electronics will be their downfall. They suffer from the same arrogance and apathy as the crew of the Titanic. The ship is too advanced so no need for binocs in the crows nest. Last Edited by ~Jazzy~ on 08/22/2017 12:04 PM To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| ~Jazzy~
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 75017870 United States08/22/2017 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People have always claimed that computers would be the cause of mans' downfall. Last Edited by ~Jazzy~ on 08/22/2017 12:05 PM To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| Earth Cries
User ID: 71050108 United States08/22/2017 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep and I agree. Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
| ~Jazzy~
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 75017870 United States08/22/2017 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep, it's true. They've taken our jobs. They've taken our health. They've even taken our ability to reason because of all of the clutter and confusion they allow to seep through. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| Earth Cries
User ID: 71050108 United States08/22/2017 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep, it's true. They've taken our jobs. They've taken our health. They've even taken our ability to reason because of all of the clutter and confusion they allow to seep through. And soon, with all these new chips, they will take away our ability to even open doors. Our identities are already gone. Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
| Earth Cries
User ID: 71050108 United States08/22/2017 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i24NEWS English‏@i24NEWS_EN 3m3 minutes ago BREAKING: Suspects in recent terror attacks charged, reportedly say imam was main instigator Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
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| Earth Cries
User ID: 71050108 United States08/22/2017 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ABC News‏@ABC 2h2 hours ago JUST IN: U.S. Treasury sanctions 10 entities and 6 individuals in response to North Korea’s “development of weapons of mass destruction" Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
| ~Jazzy~
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 75017870 United States08/22/2017 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting Pakistan has been put on notice which unlike North Korea is a definate nuclear power Id be more concerned about them sneaking nukes into the Western World than North Korea quite frankly Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72165997 NK got their nuke tech from the Pakis To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| Noble Six
User ID: 73869720 United States08/22/2017 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fox Navy says cyber sabotage played 'no role' in USS John S. McCain incident Quoting: Earth Cries Uh Huh... Ok. So then they WILLINGLY just sat there and let the merchant ship ram them. Used to have a "watch" to make sure this didn't happen. Eyes on no more? Electronics will be their downfall. They suffer from the same arrogance and apathy as the crew of the Titanic. The ship is too advanced so no need for binocs in the crows nest. The watch still runs throughout the Navy. It should be. when I was a US Naval Sea Cadet, I pulled watches at various times and for the Navy to be that inept in not ensuring a physical watch in place is beyond astounding to me. NobleSix “Seven Deadly Sins: Wealth without work, Pleasure without conscience, Science without humanity, Knowledge without character, Politics without principle, Commerce without morality, Worship without sacrifice.” - Mahatma Gandhi "Socialists destroy the economy piece by piece, but Fascists step in during the chaos and kill the host." - The GoldenJackass "The lessons that we learn are written on the tombstones of others." - Reid Henrichs - Valor Ridge "Marcus. Never end the fight!" - Lt.Mike "Murph" Murphy USN SEAL - Team Leader of Spartan 01 - Operation Red Wings 06/28/05 "Why don't you go preach that in all those wealthy Arab countries who are taking zero refugees, pope? Oh, right. Because preaching, at all, over there, will get your head cut off." "These people aren't fleeing oppression. They're spreading it." - Revbo "Your comment is not only illogical; it promotes a double standard that tells women they can act without accountability. That's not #Equality: that's #Impunity. Congratulations to you for advocating sexism against men." -Firebrand Central |
| Earth Cries
User ID: 71050108 United States08/22/2017 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Used to have a "watch" to make sure this didn't happen. Eyes on no more? Electronics will be their downfall. They suffer from the same arrogance and apathy as the crew of the Titanic. The ship is too advanced so no need for binocs in the crows nest. The watch still runs throughout the Navy. It should be. when I was a US Naval Sea Cadet, I pulled watches at various times and for the Navy to be that inept in not ensuring a physical watch in place is beyond astounding to me. Don't forget, we're coming out of 8 years of Ozero and his "softer, more gentle" approach to the military. Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72165997 Australia08/22/2017 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting Pakistan has been put on notice which unlike North Korea is a definate nuclear power Id be more concerned about them sneaking nukes into the Western World than North Korea quite frankly Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72165997 NK got their nuke tech from the Pakis Pakistanis admit to 140 nuclear weapons the DPRK at best has 10 smaller yield weapons,this implied threat to Pakistan may force them to do something like improve relations with Iran against a common threat.Most of the complaints about Pakistan involve areas that the Pakistan army has no more control over than you or I do,that being said they are devious. |
| ~Jazzy~
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 75017870 United States08/22/2017 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Used to have a "watch" to make sure this didn't happen. Eyes on no more? Electronics will be their downfall. They suffer from the same arrogance and apathy as the crew of the Titanic. The ship is too advanced so no need for binocs in the crows nest. The watch still runs throughout the Navy. It should be. when I was a US Naval Sea Cadet, I pulled watches at various times and for the Navy to be that inept in not ensuring a physical watch in place is beyond astounding to me. If there was a watch on duty, the ship hadn't suffered a breakdown AND there was no electronic sabotage involved as they claim, then they just sat there and let the ship ram them. That's why I said the fear thing was bunk. You know how fast scuttlebutt travels as well as I do, regardless of how strongly they try to put it down. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| Earth Cries
User ID: 71050108 United States08/22/2017 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Judicial Watch@JudicialWatch 6m6 minutes ago We filed lawsuit w/ DHS & State for info on the anti-Israel #BDS movement & its lobbying connections to ObamaAdmin Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
| Noble Six
User ID: 73869720 United States08/22/2017 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Earth Cries Used to have a "watch" to make sure this didn't happen. Eyes on no more? Electronics will be their downfall. They suffer from the same arrogance and apathy as the crew of the Titanic. The ship is too advanced so no need for binocs in the crows nest. The watch still runs throughout the Navy. It should be. when I was a US Naval Sea Cadet, I pulled watches at various times and for the Navy to be that inept in not ensuring a physical watch in place is beyond astounding to me. If there was a watch on duty, the ship hadn't suffered a breakdown AND there was no electronic sabotage involved as they claim, then they just sat there and let the ship ram them. That's why I said the fear thing was bunk. You know how fast scuttlebutt travels as well as I do, regardless of how strongly they try to put it down. True. NobleSix “Seven Deadly Sins: Wealth without work, Pleasure without conscience, Science without humanity, Knowledge without character, Politics without principle, Commerce without morality, Worship without sacrifice.” - Mahatma Gandhi "Socialists destroy the economy piece by piece, but Fascists step in during the chaos and kill the host." - The GoldenJackass "The lessons that we learn are written on the tombstones of others." - Reid Henrichs - Valor Ridge "Marcus. Never end the fight!" - Lt.Mike "Murph" Murphy USN SEAL - Team Leader of Spartan 01 - Operation Red Wings 06/28/05 "Why don't you go preach that in all those wealthy Arab countries who are taking zero refugees, pope? Oh, right. Because preaching, at all, over there, will get your head cut off." "These people aren't fleeing oppression. They're spreading it." - Revbo "Your comment is not only illogical; it promotes a double standard that tells women they can act without accountability. That's not #Equality: that's #Impunity. Congratulations to you for advocating sexism against men." -Firebrand Central |
| ~Jazzy~
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 75017870 United States08/22/2017 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting Pakistan has been put on notice which unlike North Korea is a definate nuclear power Id be more concerned about them sneaking nukes into the Western World than North Korea quite frankly Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72165997 NK got their nuke tech from the Pakis Pakistanis admit to 140 nuclear weapons the DPRK at best has 10 smaller yield weapons,this implied threat to Pakistan may force them to do something like improve relations with Iran against a common threat.Most of the complaints about Pakistan involve areas that the Pakistan army has no more control over than you or I do,that being said they are devious. They've already got close relations with Iran. ALOT closer than they want the world to know. Oops..too slow. And that's exactly why they're being targeted. Bibi wasn't being dramatic when he said that Iran was the biggest threat to the region. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| Noble Six
User ID: 73869720 United States08/22/2017 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lovin' this. So many people need to hear the message, but we know where that typically goes. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] NobleSix “Seven Deadly Sins: Wealth without work, Pleasure without conscience, Science without humanity, Knowledge without character, Politics without principle, Commerce without morality, Worship without sacrifice.” - Mahatma Gandhi "Socialists destroy the economy piece by piece, but Fascists step in during the chaos and kill the host." - The GoldenJackass "The lessons that we learn are written on the tombstones of others." - Reid Henrichs - Valor Ridge "Marcus. Never end the fight!" - Lt.Mike "Murph" Murphy USN SEAL - Team Leader of Spartan 01 - Operation Red Wings 06/28/05 "Why don't you go preach that in all those wealthy Arab countries who are taking zero refugees, pope? Oh, right. Because preaching, at all, over there, will get your head cut off." "These people aren't fleeing oppression. They're spreading it." - Revbo "Your comment is not only illogical; it promotes a double standard that tells women they can act without accountability. That's not #Equality: that's #Impunity. Congratulations to you for advocating sexism against men." -Firebrand Central |
| ~Jazzy~
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 75017870 United States08/22/2017 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And IRAN is the reason NK's delivery systems have improved so rapidly lately. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| Earth Cries
User ID: 71050108 United States08/22/2017 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | North Korea’s latest propaganda puts Trump in cemetery President Trump is pictured looking out over a Guam graveyard cluttered with crosses in a photoshopped image from the newest propaganda film -- and grim warning -- from North Korea... [link to www.foxnews.com] Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72165997 Australia08/22/2017 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | North Korea is mostly piss and wind its just following the ancient Asian strategy of making a commotion and displaying more campfires and flags than their actual numbers to try and bluff.As long as Trump gives them an exit door they wont do anything the only problem you'll get there is if you corner them like a rat. Iran on the other hand directly and through Hezbullah does have a cadre of people conversant with more than just goosestepping and parades I agree they are the dark horse |
| Earth Cries
User ID: 71050108 United States08/22/2017 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rooters JUST IN: China urges U.S. to 'immediately correct its mistake' of sanctioning Chinese firms over North Korea - embassy spokesman Ooooo...they mad... Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
| ~Jazzy~
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 75017870 United States08/22/2017 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | North Korea is mostly piss and wind its just following the ancient Asian strategy of making a commotion and displaying more campfires and flags than their actual numbers to try and bluff.As long as Trump gives them an exit door they wont do anything the only problem you'll get there is if you corner them like a rat. Iran on the other hand directly and through Hezbullah does have a cadre of people conversant with more than just goosestepping and parades I agree they are the dark horse Yep. NK would just be pissing in the wind were it not for Iran directing the spray. The norks paranoia is their downfall and Iran is using it for all its' worth. NK is nothing more than a easily directed pawn for Iranian aggression. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| Noble Six
User ID: 73869720 United States08/22/2017 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | North Korea is mostly piss and wind its just following the ancient Asian strategy of making a commotion and displaying more campfires and flags than their actual numbers to try and bluff.As long as Trump gives them an exit door they wont do anything the only problem you'll get there is if you corner them like a rat. Iran on the other hand directly and through Hezbullah does have a cadre of people conversant with more than just goosestepping and parades I agree they are the dark horse Yep. NK would just be pissing in the wind were it not for Iran directing the spray. The norks paranoia is their downfall and Iran is using it for all its' worth. NK is nothing more than a easily directed pawn for Iranian aggression. It'll be interesting to see how the DPRK reacts to Iran ditching them once their usefulness comes to an end. NobleSix “Seven Deadly Sins: Wealth without work, Pleasure without conscience, Science without humanity, Knowledge without character, Politics without principle, Commerce without morality, Worship without sacrifice.” - Mahatma Gandhi "Socialists destroy the economy piece by piece, but Fascists step in during the chaos and kill the host." - The GoldenJackass "The lessons that we learn are written on the tombstones of others." - Reid Henrichs - Valor Ridge "Marcus. Never end the fight!" - Lt.Mike "Murph" Murphy USN SEAL - Team Leader of Spartan 01 - Operation Red Wings 06/28/05 "Why don't you go preach that in all those wealthy Arab countries who are taking zero refugees, pope? Oh, right. Because preaching, at all, over there, will get your head cut off." "These people aren't fleeing oppression. They're spreading it." - Revbo "Your comment is not only illogical; it promotes a double standard that tells women they can act without accountability. That's not #Equality: that's #Impunity. Congratulations to you for advocating sexism against men." -Firebrand Central |
| ~Jazzy~
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 75017870 United States08/22/2017 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rooters JUST IN: China urges U.S. to 'immediately correct its mistake' of sanctioning Chinese firms over North Korea - embassy spokesman Quoting: Earth Cries Ooooo...they mad... But but but...they signed onto the sanctions Sorry. Is my sarcasm showing? To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| Earth Cries
User ID: 71050108 United States08/22/2017 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rooters JUST IN: China urges U.S. to 'immediately correct its mistake' of sanctioning Chinese firms over North Korea - embassy spokesman Quoting: Earth Cries Ooooo...they mad... But but but...they signed onto the sanctions Sorry. Is my sarcasm showing? LOL  Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
| ~Jazzy~
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 75017870 United States08/22/2017 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | North Korea is mostly piss and wind its just following the ancient Asian strategy of making a commotion and displaying more campfires and flags than their actual numbers to try and bluff.As long as Trump gives them an exit door they wont do anything the only problem you'll get there is if you corner them like a rat. Iran on the other hand directly and through Hezbullah does have a cadre of people conversant with more than just goosestepping and parades I agree they are the dark horse Yep. NK would just be pissing in the wind were it not for Iran directing the spray. The norks paranoia is their downfall and Iran is using it for all its' worth. NK is nothing more than a easily directed pawn for Iranian aggression. It'll be interesting to see how the DPRK reacts to Iran ditching them once their usefulness comes to an end. There won't be anything left of them to realize it. Iran wouldn't build a monster and then just let it loose to roam on its' own. Last Edited by ~Jazzy~ on 08/22/2017 01:27 PM To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
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