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The World at War

 
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Re: The World at War
PRIDE GOETH BEFORE THE FALL.

What goes around, comes around.

Judgement.

Last Edited by ~Jazzy~ on 06/30/2015 11:54 AM
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General question....what's the chances of Israel going for broke and attacking Iran on or around 4th of July or sometime shortly after?
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When Iran starts churning its new centrifuges, Israel's gloves will come off. If that happens before the 4th, yes there will be an attack. At the same time, Iran may be doing things that cross Israeli redlines and if that is the case, Israel will immediately attack (detection of higher enrichment, or moving its nuclear equipment and uranium into unreachable chambers underground. Chances of Iran doing such events immediately, perhaps 10%, higher if she fears an Israeli attack. That causes the risk to perhaps rise because of fear on both sides.

Meanwhile, Israel's displeasure with the agreement is enough to spark an attack and why not do so immediately verses wait weeks or months? The longer Israel waits, the greater the chance Iran will move her uranium into underground chambers as well as her hi-tech centrifuges and manufacturing equipment for more centrifuges, and a greater chance of Iran initiating enriching beyond limits in underground chambers where nukes can be made in weeks if not days and with no detection. I give that a 33% chance of an attack within a week of the agreement with an increase of 1% each day after the signing of an agreement.

You can see that be mid-September, Israel will have to have attacked by these chances and the weighing risk of letting Iran go nuclear due to inability to detect what Iran is actually doing. Before then, the sooner an attack happens, the more damage could be wrought.

Does that help understand the chances of an immediate attack?
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It's not as if there's one big huge bomb being hidden in some bunker close to hell.

Iran isn't stupid. She has scientists just like other countries and they're all led by the spirit of darkness.

It wouldn't take a huge nuke to completely destroy Israel. And besides, that's not what Iran wants. They don't want to destroy the LAND...just the people.
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I imagine an EMP would pretty much accomplish that. Blow it and just sit and wait a while. And I would imagine they'd throw a few more EMPs out there to the other surrounding countries. I can visualize a bleak future if they do that in the Mid East.
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

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It's not as if there's one big huge bomb being hidden in some bunker close to hell.

Iran isn't stupid. She has scientists just like other countries and they're all led by the spirit of darkness.

It wouldn't take a huge nuke to completely destroy Israel. And besides, that's not what Iran wants. They don't want to destroy the LAND...just the people.
 Quoting: JazzyG


to them it may not make a difference, if they can't have the land...then at least get rid of the people..to them it's all relative...their "mahdi" will just make it all better when he shows up
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They will use it when they are ready. Not even for the land in totality, nor even necessarily the people they want to wipe out. They will use it because they believe it is their duty, given their prophecies, to bring about the 12th imam/last mahdi. Israel being destroyed is one of the main events to hasten his return.

(and if you listen carefully, hastening his return is something they are very vocal about - Ahmoudinanutjob prayed for it every single time he addressed the UN - it was his opening sentence)
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Remember too that the Islamic nation that hits Israel will lead all the other muslim nations and thus if it is Iran, she will end the Shiite sunni war soon thereafter with much support and conversion.

That in itself is a reason why Iran needs to build a sufficient quantity of nukes in a very quick fashion. She wants her own self-built nuke to be blessed for use before using those nukes bought through North Korea.
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You're not thinking guys.

PERSIA is still here after the fall.

Scripture isn't talking about the land. It speaks of the GOVERNMENT.

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To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Israel News Feed ‏@IsraelHatzolah 9m9 minutes ago
MORE: Following latest wave of terror attacks, newly reopened Ramallah-Jalazoun road has been closed once again by the IDF.
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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Haaretz.com ‏@haaretzcom 11m11 minutes ago
BREAKING: Israeli man succumbs to wounds following West Bank shooting [link to htz.li]

May he rest in peace.
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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Haaretz.com ‏@haaretzcom 11m11 minutes ago
BREAKING: Israeli man succumbs to wounds following West Bank shooting [link to htz.li]

May he rest in peace.
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To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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It's not as if there's one big huge bomb being hidden in some bunker close to hell.

Iran isn't stupid. She has scientists just like other countries and they're all led by the spirit of darkness.

It wouldn't take a huge nuke to completely destroy Israel. And besides, that's not what Iran wants. They don't want to destroy the LAND...just the people.
 Quoting: JazzyG


I read last year that Iran had studied how to drop a nuke into the sea off Israel's coastline and create a tsunami effect.
It would also wipe out Gaza too.

The land would be intact but slightly roughed up.......
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Haaretz.com ‏@haaretzcom 11m11 minutes ago
BREAKING: Israeli man succumbs to wounds following West Bank shooting [link to htz.li]

May he rest in peace.
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verysad
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zerohedge ‏@zerohedge 8m8 minutes ago
USDA: 2015 CORN ACRES PLANTED LOWEST SINCE 2010

I can verify this. We live in a farming area and I've never seen such little planted. The early spring was extremely rainy and the farmers couldn't get in the fields. The winter wheat was absolutely beautiful and was getting ripe when the rains hit. Every wheat field around here rotted and was burnt off. Not one was able to be harvested. Another sign of the times, my friends. Couple that with the droughts out west and famine is on the horizon.
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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Well, my goodness. There was just now a 3.3 earthquake in Michigan not too far from Battle Creek. Never saw one in that area before. Earthquakes in diverse places...
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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Arutz Sheva Articles ‏@israelnatnews 9m9 minutes ago
Arab Shouting 'Allahu Akbar' Shot Trying to Breach Checkpoint [link to dlvr.it]

Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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If all this plays out Holy Crap! This could be exactly where WW3 starts.


Turkey and Jordan said preparing buffer zones inside Syria. Israeli air support mooted. Putin issues warning

Turkish and Jordanian armies were reported on June 30 to be getting ready to cross into Syria and set up security buffer zones – to fight ISIS, oppose the Assad regime and stem the never-ending flow of refugees. It is not clear if they are coordinated. Turkey has prepared 18,000 troops for the operation. Its air force is to impose a no-fly zone against Syrian flights. The Jordanian army is also on the ready to go in and said to be seeking Israel’s air force participation for air cover and a parallel no-fly zone in the south.

[link to www.debka.com]
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It's not as if there's one big huge bomb being hidden in some bunker close to hell.

Iran isn't stupid. She has scientists just like other countries and they're all led by the spirit of darkness.

It wouldn't take a huge nuke to completely destroy Israel. And besides, that's not what Iran wants. They don't want to destroy the LAND...just the people.
 Quoting: JazzyG


I read last year that Iran had studied how to drop a nuke into the sea off Israel's coastline and create a tsunami effect.
It would also wipe out Gaza too.

The land would be intact but slightly roughed up.......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69607076


Exactly. There's many ways that the people of Israel can be wiped out without using nukes.

Scripture says that 1/3 of her people will die. And then a third of what is left will die after that.

What once was, will be again.

G-d removes His protection. Michael stands up. The restrainer is removed so that the dark one can come in.

Zechariah 13

7 "Awake, O sword, against My Shepherd, And against the man, My Associate," Declares the LORD of hosts. "Strike the Shepherd that the sheep may be scattered; And I will turn My hand against the little ones. 8 "It will come about in all the land," Declares the LORD, "That two parts in it will be cut off and perish; But the third will be left in it. 9 "And I will bring the third part through the fire, Refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, And I will answer them; I will say, 'They are My people,' And they will say, 'The LORD is my G-d.'"

Ezekiel 5

12 'One third of you will die by plague or be consumed by famine among you, one third will fall by the sword around you, and one third I will scatter to every wind, and I will unsheathe a sword behind them. 13 'Thus My anger will be spent and I will satisfy My wrath on them, and I will be appeased; then they will know that I, the LORD, have spoken in My zeal when I have spent My wrath upon them.…'
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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If all this plays out Holy Crap! This could be exactly where WW3 starts.


Turkey and Jordan said preparing buffer zones inside Syria. Israeli air support mooted. Putin issues warning

Turkish and Jordanian armies were reported on June 30 to be getting ready to cross into Syria and set up security buffer zones – to fight ISIS, oppose the Assad regime and stem the never-ending flow of refugees. It is not clear if they are coordinated. Turkey has prepared 18,000 troops for the operation. Its air force is to impose a no-fly zone against Syrian flights. The Jordanian army is also on the ready to go in and said to be seeking Israel’s air force participation for air cover and a parallel no-fly zone in the south.

[link to www.debka.com]
 Quoting: AltUpdateReport


Let's see if Debka is right this time.
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who knows maybe we are telling Iran if you dont sign this nuke deal we invade syria
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Arutz Sheva Articles ‏@israelnatnews 2m2 minutes ago
Shin Bet Head Warns Hamas is Readying for Another War [link to dlvr.it]
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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Rami ‏@RamiAlLolah 1m1 minute ago
#ISIS is back in #TalAbyad.. Eastern outskirts are under their control after reports of massive clashes .. #Syria #TwitterKurds
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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If all this plays out Holy Crap! This could be exactly where WW3 starts.


Turkey and Jordan said preparing buffer zones inside Syria. Israeli air support mooted. Putin issues warning

Turkish and Jordanian armies were reported on June 30 to be getting ready to cross into Syria and set up security buffer zones – to fight ISIS, oppose the Assad regime and stem the never-ending flow of refugees. It is not clear if they are coordinated. Turkey has prepared 18,000 troops for the operation. Its air force is to impose a no-fly zone against Syrian flights. The Jordanian army is also on the ready to go in and said to be seeking Israel’s air force participation for air cover and a parallel no-fly zone in the south.

[link to www.debka.com]
 Quoting: AltUpdateReport


Let's see if Debka is right this time.
 Quoting: TripleH23


Jordan Seeks Buffer Zone to Keep Syrian Islamists at Bay

[link to atlanticsentinel.com]

Turkey could send 20,000 troops to Syria to fight ISIS: President threatens military strikes to create 'buffer zone' for refugees

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

I think Debka is on to something!
"How fortunate for governments that men do not think."
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Conflict News ‏@rConflictNews 24s25 seconds ago
NATO Commander @PMBreedlove: "I don't think Mr. Putin is done in eastern #Ukraine"
[link to www.atlanticcouncil.org] …
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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Israel News Feed ‏@IsraelHatzolah 45s46 seconds ago
BREAKING: Police searching for Palestinian Arab from Gaza that entered Israel to undergo medical treatment & escaped from Tel Aviv hospital.
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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zerohedge ‏@zerohedge 29s30 seconds ago
Merkel now is hoping aftermath of Greek banking panic after ELA is pulled topples the government.
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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Rami ‏@RamiAlLolah 40s41 seconds ago
#Turkey army is ready for the action.. #Jordan will follow shortly after.. #Israel has its own plans as well.. #Syria is f***** up forever..
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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Us lot getting in on the action too

"Tunisia hotel attack: David Cameron raises possibility of air strikes on Syria as he calls for Isis to be 'crushed'"

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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Question is when it will start.
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Seems the plan for major military intervention into Syria is all but green lighted.
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If all this plays out Holy Crap! This could be exactly where WW3 starts.


Turkey and Jordan said preparing buffer zones inside Syria. Israeli air support mooted. Putin issues warning

Turkish and Jordanian armies were reported on June 30 to be getting ready to cross into Syria and set up security buffer zones – to fight ISIS, oppose the Assad regime and stem the never-ending flow of refugees. It is not clear if they are coordinated. Turkey has prepared 18,000 troops for the operation. Its air force is to impose a no-fly zone against Syrian flights. The Jordanian army is also on the ready to go in and said to be seeking Israel’s air force participation for air cover and a parallel no-fly zone in the south.

[link to www.debka.com]
 Quoting: AltUpdateReport


Let's see if Debka is right this time.
 Quoting: TripleH23


Jordan Seeks Buffer Zone to Keep Syrian Islamists at Bay

[link to atlanticsentinel.com]

Turkey could send 20,000 troops to Syria to fight ISIS: President threatens military strikes to create 'buffer zone' for refugees

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

I think Debka is on to something!
 Quoting: AltUpdateReport


Thanks for the links. Not that I was calling BS or anything,it's just that Debka has been way off on things.
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Question is when it will start.
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wtflol
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All this going on and O is on with the pres of Brazil talking about replanting the rainforest and extending trade. Lord have mercy on the people of the US!
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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