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The World at War: hamass Leader Haniyeh - "When We Say From the River to the Sea, We Mean NO ISRAEL. We Will NEVER Accept It."...pg 4355

 
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look at it that way.
there aren't supposed to be any nations in the messianic age except for Israel.
the rest of the world would be divided according to your families.
which is a very good thing, the fall of America signifies the rise of the family unit as ones nation.

also... why would you care for the US, its a government system implemented by rome/Vatican to control you.
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It's not so much he caring of the nation of once was as it is the pogrom that will be ran against those that do not support the tyranny that rolls in during the transition period.
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I understand.
you care for the LIVES of American PEOPLE, not the flag and capitol building.
I should have understood that.

I don't think there would a transition period.
Mashiach is at the door.
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I can give strategic/tactical perspectives and out of the box POVs til I turn blue in the face, but deep inside it hurts to see this mess. I've no idea as to how to explain this to my two little ones. The children will suffer the most out of all of this.

Before the peace of the world comes from His return, the violence must get higher. I'll fight the future, per se to keep my children and other children safe.
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feeling responsible for ones nation is natural.
you are wise to be protective of your children.

I advise you to do what you deem is necessary, but keep in mind not to take things to heart, it is not healthy.
divine providence determines every aspect and detail of our lives.
keep your confidence in G-d.

“The Lord kills and makes alive;
He brings down to the grave and brings up.

7
The Lord makes poor and makes rich;
He brings low and lifts up.

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He raises the poor from the dust
And lifts the beggar from the ash heap,
To set them among princes
And make them inherit the throne of glory.


let me tell you, that I myself, don't prepare to survive whats it coming, I prepare to be resurrected.
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G-d alone appoints kings and kingdoms.

He does so for correction AND protection.

Our people have been under the rule of MANY during our existence. And for MANY reasons.

Seeded among the nations, not all of our people have been CALLED home yet.

Each in their own time, according to HaShems' will alone.

This is HIS story...not our own.
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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State Dept Press Pool Suggest Israeli Security Move is ‘Ethnic Cleansing’ and Wrong

Members of the press attacked Israeli consideration of stripping eastern Jerusalemites of identity cards

In the wake of a wave of vicious brutality unleashed on innocent Israelis by Arab Palestinian terrorists drunk on the lies told them by their political and religious leaders, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu raised the possibility of a serious punishment for the stabbings, shootings and car rammings. The response from some quarters suggest Israelis have no right to self-defense, and should perhaps just turn the other cheek. Wrong religion...

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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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Mogherini Demanding Netanyahu, Abbas, Meet EU Envoys in ‘Days, Not Weeks’

EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini on Tuesday insisted that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmud Abbas must receive Quartet representatives “within days” in order to kick-start the peace talks. Mogherini met Abbas in Brussels on Monday and Netanyahu last week in Berlin.

“I have asked both Netanyahu and Abbas to receive the Quartet envoys in the coming days, not weeks,” Mogherini said, saying there was a need for speedy action before another surge in the violence begins, which could then spiral out of control...

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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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G-d alone appoints kings and kingdoms.

He does so for correction AND protection.

Our people have been under the rule of MANY during our existence. And for MANY reasons.

Seeded among the nations, not all of our people have been CALLED home yet.

Each in their own time, according to HaShems' will alone.

This is HIS story...not our own.
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1 John 5:19, Luke 4:5,6, Matthew 4:8,9, 2 Corinthians 4:4

If God really does appoint all nations, how could the devil truly tempt Jesus with world governorship? it couldn't have been a real temptation if the devil wasn't readily able to deliver, would it?

I mean the DEVIL himself said : Then the Devil said to him: “I will give you all this authority and their glory, because it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish."

So.... who controls the governments and appoints them?

I guess it is inconsequential though as God will step in and begin the Messianic Age any moment now. He has placed the times and seasons in His jurisdiction. Acts 1:7
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I guess in a way though, it is "God" that appoints the governments, in that the God of this system of things (Pre-Messianic, Last Days system) appoints governments.

I say that because of what's found at 2 Corinthians 4:4, and Ephesians 2:1-3 identifies Satan the Devil as the God of this system of things.

So, Philip K Dick was right with what he said in Valis, the God in power now is insane, knowing his time left is short (Revelation 12:12).

So, in a way "God" appoints the nations, but that "God" will be dethroned when the rightful and true King's reign extends from Heaven to the Earth.
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G-d alone appoints kings and kingdoms.

He does so for correction AND protection.

Our people have been under the rule of MANY during our existence. And for MANY reasons.

Seeded among the nations, not all of our people have been CALLED home yet.

Each in their own time, according to HaShems' will alone.

This is HIS story...not our own.
 Quoting: JazzyG


1 John 5:19, Luke 4:5,6, Matthew 4:8,9, 2 Corinthians 4:4

If God really does appoint all nations, how could the devil truly tempt Jesus with world governorship? it couldn't have been a real temptation if the devil wasn't readily able to deliver, would it?

I mean the DEVIL himself said : Then the Devil said to him: “I will give you all this authority and their glory, because it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish."

So.... who controls the governments and appoints them?

I guess it is inconsequential though as God will step in and begin the Messianic Age any moment now. He has placed the times and seasons in His jurisdiction. Acts 1:7
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And the satan is still restrained. Michael has not yet stood up and left Yisra'el defenseless to suffer the full wrath of the adversary. We still exist. And it is by the hand of HaShem that we do so.

So yes, G-d does make the decisions. He ALLOWS the appointment of kingdoms and kings...until their appointed times are over.

Moshiach comes and shortens the satans' days, or no flesh would be saved.

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A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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jazzy you know better, don't lower yourself into the spiritual theological understanding of Christians regarding satan.

Satan cant be unleashed, Satan is not some chained beast.
Satan is an angel doing everything G-d orders him, and nothing but that.
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jazzy you know better, don't lower yourself into the spiritual theological understanding of Christians regarding satan.

Satan cant be unleashed, Satan is not some chained beast.
Satan is an angel doing everything G-d orders him, and nothing but that.
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Exactly. He is not a chained beast. Yet.

The satan fulfills the will of Abba. He is the prosecutor of those who he would find guilty of sin.

But his days are numbered. His appointment as prosecutor of the earth DOES come to an end. The satan knows when his days are are about to be cut short and will seek to bring as many as he can before the Holy Throne of G-ds' court.

It is the coming of Moshiach that brings that appointment to its' end. He brings full circle the will of Adonai.

The end from the beginning.
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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The winnowing of the final harvest.
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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jazzy you know better, don't lower yourself into the spiritual theological understanding of Christians regarding satan.

Satan cant be unleashed, Satan is not some chained beast.
Satan is an angel doing everything G-d orders him, and nothing but that.
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Exactly. He is not a chained beast. Yet.

The satan fulfills the will of Abba. He is the prosecutor of those who he would find guilty of sin.

But his days are numbered. His appointment as prosecutor of the earth DOES come to an end. The satan knows when his days are are about to be cut short and will seek to bring as many as he can before the Holy Throne of G-ds' court.

It is the coming of Moshiach that brings that appointment to its' end. He brings full circle the will of Adonai.

The end from the beginning.
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he knows his days are numbered? he does everything to persecute as many as possible?

no, Satan cries when he does a good "job"
satan doesn't interfere with ones life unless one opens a door for him.

if you know how to read Job, you would see Job did something to deserve Satan's complaining to G-d about him.
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A word of caution to neophyte Martini drinkers: When taken to excess, this perfectly civilized drink can lead directly to uncivilized behavior.
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jazzy... how is your Hebrew?
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jazzy you know better, don't lower yourself into the spiritual theological understanding of Christians regarding satan.

Satan cant be unleashed, Satan is not some chained beast.
Satan is an angel doing everything G-d orders him, and nothing but that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70666622


Exactly. He is not a chained beast. Yet.

The satan fulfills the will of Abba. He is the prosecutor of those who he would find guilty of sin.

But his days are numbered. His appointment as prosecutor of the earth DOES come to an end. The satan knows when his days are are about to be cut short and will seek to bring as many as he can before the Holy Throne of G-ds' court.

It is the coming of Moshiach that brings that appointment to its' end. He brings full circle the will of Adonai.

The end from the beginning.
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he knows his days are numbered? he does everything to persecute as many as possible?

no, Satan cries when he does a good "job"
satan doesn't interfere with ones life unless one opens a door for him.

if you know how to read Job, you would see Job did something to deserve Satan's complaining to G-d about him.
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Yes. Job did deserve it. Pride has caused the fall of many a man. The satan brings the sins of men before G-d because he SERVES Him. Job disobeyed and was punished for it. And he was then blessed because of t'shuva.

The satan does not interfere unless HaShem gives him the authority to do so. And in the case of Job, he was given one RESTRICTION on how far he could go. He does the will of Abba. He plays the same role now as he did in the beginning..the tempter. He does not MAKE man fall, but rather simply makes known the alternative.

It is man who chooses to obey G-d or not.

But no matter how you look at it, the appointment of the satan as prosecutor DOES come to an end. And he KNOWS that his services will no longer be needed. He too will seek to see that NOT ONE blemish enters the Kingdom. But he will no longer have the RESTRICTION of bringing about the death of the flesh upon him.

Unrestrained.

And Moshiach comes or NO FLESH would be saved.
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Jordan seeking to stream Temple Mount footage on Internet

Senior Jordanian official says surveillance cameras to be installed in ‘days, not weeks,’ and will aim for maximum transparency.

Israel has welcomed the camera plan, saying the surveillance will prove it is doing nothing wrong and expose violent activities by Palestinian protesters.

The Palestinians have given the plan a cool reception, saying Israel will use the cameras to arrest people and complaining that deeper issues have been ignored.

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This technology would allow the '2 Witnesses' to be seen worldwide.
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jazzy you know better, don't lower yourself into the spiritual theological understanding of Christians regarding satan.

Satan cant be unleashed, Satan is not some chained beast.
Satan is an angel doing everything G-d orders him, and nothing but that.
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Exactly. He is not a chained beast. Yet.

The satan fulfills the will of Abba. He is the prosecutor of those who he would find guilty of sin.

But his days are numbered. His appointment as prosecutor of the earth DOES come to an end. The satan knows when his days are are about to be cut short and will seek to bring as many as he can before the Holy Throne of G-ds' court.

It is the coming of Moshiach that brings that appointment to its' end. He brings full circle the will of Adonai.

The end from the beginning.
 Quoting: JazzyG


he knows his days are numbered? he does everything to persecute as many as possible?

no, Satan cries when he does a good "job"
satan doesn't interfere with ones life unless one opens a door for him.

if you know how to read Job, you would see Job did something to deserve Satan's complaining to G-d about him.
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Yes. Job did deserve it. Pride has caused the fall of many a man. The satan brings the sins of men before G-d because he SERVES Him. Job disobeyed and was punished for it. And he was then blessed because of t'shuva.

The satan does not interfere unless HaShem gives him the authority to do so. And in the case of Job, he was given one RESTRICTION on how far he could go. He does the will of Abba. He plays the same role now as he did in the beginning..the tempter. He does not MAKE man fall, but rather simply makes known the alternative.

It is man who chooses to obey G-d or not.

But no matter how you look at it, the appointment of the satan as prosecutor DOES come to an end. And he KNOWS that his services will no longer be needed. He too will seek to see that NOT ONE blemish enters the Kingdom. But he will no longer have the RESTRICTION of bringing about the death of the flesh upon him.

Unrestrained.

And Moshiach comes or NO FLESH would be saved.
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if we start talking about jesus you would ban me like you always do.

you are wrong, the law of the house of hillel applies today, which means in this age, G-d judges with grace and mercy.
but in the messianic age, G-d would be according to the law of the house of shammai, G-d will judge of strictness and severity.
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Whoever seeks to preserve his nefesh will lose it; but whoever loses it, will preserve it. ~Luke 17:33~

And He has made us Kings and Priests under Moshiach. Yisra'el is restored.

The rule of Shammai.
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Whoever seeks to preserve his nefesh will lose it; but whoever loses it, will preserve it. ~Luke 17:33~

And He has made us Kings and Priests under Moshiach. Yisra'el is restored.

The rule of Shammai.
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meh... I really don't care about you enough to bother and show you how foolish you are.
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As it is written, so it shall be.
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Whoever seeks to preserve his nefesh will lose it; but whoever loses it, will preserve it. ~Luke 17:33~

And He has made us Kings and Priests under Moshiach. Yisra'el is restored.

The rule of Shammai.
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meh... I really don't care about you enough to bother and show you how foolish you are.
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Stop acting like you have some sort of superiority complex. You are no better than any of us. Now then, can you please shut up and let JazzyG do her job on this thread? This thread is not for arguments. If you're going to argue, do it on another thread or make your own.
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Islamic Jihad advises that it has called for escalation in Jlem, and there will be an increase in attacks.

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A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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7 IDF soldiers held for allegedly beating Palestinians

Combat troops from ultra-Orthodox battalion charged with hitting suspects detained during operation near Jenin

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Police say knife-wielding Afula woman not a terrorist

Asra’a Zidan Abed had a history of mental illness, may have tried to get shot after losing custody of her child

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Kerry: Israelis, Palestinians need ‘creative’ leaders

Top US diplomat calls on PA to stop inciting violence, urges Israel to help strengthen Palestinian economy

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A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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American-Israeli Teacher Who Stood for Coexistence, and Was a Victim of Its Failure, Is Buried in Israel

Mr. Richard Lakin, 76, was shot in the head and stabbed in the face and chest by Palestinian assailants on a public bus in Jerusalem at the height of this month’s violent uprising. An American who moved to Israel three decades ago, he died after two weeks in the hospital, where he had much surgery and a parade of visitors including Mayor Bill de Blasio of New York, Secretary General Ban Ki-moon of the United Nations, and students from Hand in Hand, Jerusalem’s joint Arab-Jewish school.

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PM Netanyahu Responds After Arab MK Defies Har Habayis Ban

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu on Wednesday 15 Cheshvan responded to Arab MK Ghattas successfully sneaking onto Har Habayis in defiance of his ban for MK and cabinet ministers to visit the holy site at time. Making things worse, Ghattas told the press that his defiance sends a clear message to the prime minister, that “he has no sovereignty over Jerusalem, al-Aqsa or him as an Arab MK”.

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A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Re: The World at War: hamass Leader Haniyeh - "When We Say From the River to the Sea, We Mean NO ISRAEL. We Will NEVER Accept It."...pg 4355
G-d alone appoints kings and kingdoms.

He does so for correction AND protection.

Our people have been under the rule of MANY during our existence. And for MANY reasons.

Seeded among the nations, not all of our people have been CALLED home yet.

Each in their own time, according to HaShems' will alone.

This is HIS story...not our own.
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1 John 5:19, Luke 4:5,6, Matthew 4:8,9, 2 Corinthians 4:4

If God really does appoint all nations, how could the devil truly tempt Jesus with world governorship? it couldn't have been a real temptation if the devil wasn't readily able to deliver, would it?

I mean the DEVIL himself said : Then the Devil said to him: “I will give you all this authority and their glory, because it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish."

So.... who controls the governments and appoints them?

I guess it is inconsequential though as God will step in and begin the Messianic Age any moment now. He has placed the times and seasons in His jurisdiction. Acts 1:7
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And the satan is still restrained. Michael has not yet stood up and left Yisra'el defenseless to suffer the full wrath of the adversary. We still exist. And it is by the hand of HaShem that we do so.

So yes, G-d does make the decisions. He ALLOWS the appointment of kingdoms and kings...until their appointed times are over.

Moshiach comes and shortens the satans' days, or no flesh would be saved.
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I appreciate your response and I agree with what you say. Thanks for the hard work keeping us informed! hf
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A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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G-d alone appoints kings and kingdoms.

He does so for correction AND protection.

Our people have been under the rule of MANY during our existence. And for MANY reasons.

Seeded among the nations, not all of our people have been CALLED home yet.

Each in their own time, according to HaShems' will alone.

This is HIS story...not our own.
 Quoting: JazzyG


1 John 5:19, Luke 4:5,6, Matthew 4:8,9, 2 Corinthians 4:4

If God really does appoint all nations, how could the devil truly tempt Jesus with world governorship? it couldn't have been a real temptation if the devil wasn't readily able to deliver, would it?

I mean the DEVIL himself said : Then the Devil said to him: “I will give you all this authority and their glory, because it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish."

So.... who controls the governments and appoints them?

I guess it is inconsequential though as God will step in and begin the Messianic Age any moment now. He has placed the times and seasons in His jurisdiction. Acts 1:7
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And the satan is still restrained. Michael has not yet stood up and left Yisra'el defenseless to suffer the full wrath of the adversary. We still exist. And it is by the hand of HaShem that we do so.

So yes, G-d does make the decisions. He ALLOWS the appointment of kingdoms and kings...until their appointed times are over.

Moshiach comes and shortens the satans' days, or no flesh would be saved.
 Quoting: JazzyG


I appreciate your response and I agree with what you say. Thanks for the hard work keeping us informed! hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13456989


hf
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A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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