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Israel News Feed ‏@IsraelHatzolah 45s45 seconds ago
ISRAEL UNDER TERROR:
- 4 Israelis murdered
- 9 wounded
- 1 Arab dead
- TLV Stabbing
- Shooting/run-over attack
- 3 terrorists arrested.

Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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bumpbumpbump alot going on there not good my prayers are with the Israel people.
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morning all, sad to hear about the latest attack and that there were deaths unfortunately....anything from the israeli govt on this yet?
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Death toll in Gush Etzion attack rises to 3, says Israel Defense Forces; IDF says attacker opened fire, rammed car into traffic - @IDFSpokesperson
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Israeli security forces raid West Bank home of suspected Tel Aviv synagogue stabber - @TOIAlerts
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HERO OF THE DAY: Man who took down the Tel Aviv terrorist with his own bare hands tying terrorist hands with a belt.


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Bravo brave soul!
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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HERO OF THE DAY: Man who took down the Tel Aviv terrorist with his own bare hands tying terrorist hands with a belt.


[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Bravo brave soul!
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nice
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HERO OF THE DAY: Man who took down the Tel Aviv terrorist with his own bare hands tying terrorist hands with a belt.


[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Bravo brave soul!
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hf God bless him.
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BREAKING: 10 #Israelis wounded in separate shooting attack in Gush Etzion - @rc_schneider

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Well looks like it is really on now.
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BREAKING: 10 #Israelis wounded in separate shooting attack in Gush Etzion - @rc_schneider

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Well looks like it is really on now.
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this better get more than some pin prick strikes or houses demolished, this is freaking ridiculous
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Herb Keinon ‏@HerbKeinon 17m17 minutes ago
Netanyahu: Those who do not condemn the terrorism in Israel like they do in Paris are hypocrites.

Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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BREAKING: 10 #Israelis wounded in separate shooting attack in Gush Etzion - @rc_schneider

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 Quoting: OXI Luisport


Well looks like it is really on now.
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this better get more than some pin prick strikes or houses demolished, this is freaking ridiculous
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Plenty is being done to nearly stop terror in November alone most attacks subsided. You expect miracles. Totally unrealistic, esp.

You want them to totally close off West Bank? stop Palestinian workers from coming in? Randomly start bombing the many leaders of the many terrorist factions both in Gaza and West Bank? Maybe Israeli-Arab areas if this is revenge for banning the Northern Islamic Movement a few days ago?

Before even knowing if this was spontaneous twitter-related, Paris ISIS inspired retards at work.... or actually masterminded by an organization?


Then you'll get the one thing that all parties wanted to avoid: a full-blown 3rd Intifada. An all-out war, Abbas security forces who have a TON of automatic weapons will be forced to join the fight. Israeli Arabs for their part will literally set the country on fire (see: Carmiel fire in late 2010 for a small preview)

It will be a long war, the world will suddenly forget about ISIS, Iranian nuke deal, all other problems. It will be "Save Gaza, Palestine under Zionist Genocide 24/7" global media coverage, protests like you've never seen before.

10s of billions of dollars damage to the sensitive high-tech Israeli economy.

Who knows, Hezbollah might just decide this is a perfect time to rehabilitate its image in the eyes of the Sunni world and over-run the Israeli north, while raining down big missiles on the country.

Obama would have his excuse to act all "outraged" at Israeli disproportionate self-defense and withhold a UNSC veto. Which would have devastating long-term legal ramifications for the Jewish State.

Oh yeah, the critically important "pro-Zionist" stooges Sisi in Egypt and King Abdullah in might be overthrown by masses of outraged Arab Street. So at the very least, kiss the Peace Treaties good-bye (just whe Israel was finally starting to have real important Sunni allies, including powerful Saudi Arabia on its side...)

Want all that and more, Zilla? Because once you get this monster-ball rolling, it's gonna roll over everybody and everything in its path.

And the thing is, if an Arab with no security record one day wakes up and decides to end his own miserable life by stabbing a bunch of random people on the street, there is NOTHING you can do to prevent it. Not on Tel Aviv. Not in Jerusalem.

Not in Paris. Not in New York. Not anywhere.
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horn Shout out to itsmaka2 GLP-member
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 Quoting: OXI Luisport


Well looks like it is really on now.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


this better get more than some pin prick strikes or houses demolished, this is freaking ridiculous
 Quoting: GodzillaReturns


Plenty is being done to nearly stop terror in November alone most attacks subsided. You expect miracles. Totally unrealistic, esp.

You want them to totally close off West Bank? stop Palestinian workers from coming in? Randomly start bombing the many leaders of the many terrorist factions both in Gaza and West Bank? Maybe Israeli-Arab areas if this is revenge for banning the Northern Islamic Movement a few days ago?

Before even knowing if this was spontaneous twitter-related, Paris ISIS inspired retards at work.... or actually masterminded by an organization?


Then you'll get the one thing that all parties wanted to avoid: a full-blown 3rd Intifada. An all-out war, Abbas security forces who have a TON of automatic weapons will be forced to join the fight. Israeli Arabs for their part will literally set the country on fire (see: Carmiel fire in late 2010 for a small preview)

It will be a long war, the world will suddenly forget about ISIS, Iranian nuke deal, all other problems. It will be "Save Gaza, Palestine under Zionist Genocide 24/7" global media coverage, protests like you've never seen before.

10s of billions of dollars damage to the sensitive high-tech Israeli economy.

Who knows, Hezbollah might just decide this is a perfect time to rehabilitate its image in the eyes of the Sunni world and over-run the Israeli north, while raining down big missiles on the country.

Obama would have his excuse to act all "outraged" at Israeli disproportionate self-defense and withhold a UNSC veto. Which would have devastating long-term legal ramifications for the Jewish State.

Oh yeah, the critically important "pro-Zionist" stooges Sisi in Egypt and King Abdullah in might be overthrown by masses of outraged Arab Street. So at the very least, kiss the Peace Treaties good-bye (just whe Israel was finally starting to have real important Sunni allies, including powerful Saudi Arabia on its side...)

Want all that and more, Zilla? Because once you get this monster-ball rolling, it's gonna roll over everybody and everything in its path.

And the thing is, if an Arab with no security record one day wakes up and decides to end his own miserable life by stabbing a bunch of random people on the street, there is NOTHING you can do to prevent it. Not on Tel Aviv. Not in Jerusalem.

Not in Paris. Not in New York. Not anywhere.
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that was certainly a mouthful....Israel is going to get condemned no matter what it does....saying goes better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF

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5 dead in Tel Aviv/West Bank attacks


I didn't see this posted yet.
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BREAKING: 10 #Israelis wounded in separate shooting attack in Gush Etzion - @rc_schneider

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5 dead in Tel Aviv/West Bank attacks


I didn't see this posted yet.
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Well looks like it is really on now.
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this better get more than some pin prick strikes or houses demolished, this is freaking ridiculous
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Plenty is being done to nearly stop terror in November alone most attacks subsided. You expect miracles. Totally unrealistic, esp.

You want them to totally close off West Bank? stop Palestinian workers from coming in? Randomly start bombing the many leaders of the many terrorist factions both in Gaza and West Bank? Maybe Israeli-Arab areas if this is revenge for banning the Northern Islamic Movement a few days ago?

Before even knowing if this was spontaneous twitter-related, Paris ISIS inspired retards at work.... or actually masterminded by an organization?


Then you'll get the one thing that all parties wanted to avoid: a full-blown 3rd Intifada. An all-out war, Abbas security forces who have a TON of automatic weapons will be forced to join the fight. Israeli Arabs for their part will literally set the country on fire (see: Carmiel fire in late 2010 for a small preview)

It will be a long war, the world will suddenly forget about ISIS, Iranian nuke deal, all other problems. It will be "Save Gaza, Palestine under Zionist Genocide 24/7" global media coverage, protests like you've never seen before.

10s of billions of dollars damage to the sensitive high-tech Israeli economy.

Who knows, Hezbollah might just decide this is a perfect time to rehabilitate its image in the eyes of the Sunni world and over-run the Israeli north, while raining down big missiles on the country.

Obama would have his excuse to act all "outraged" at Israeli disproportionate self-defense and withhold a UNSC veto. Which would have devastating long-term legal ramifications for the Jewish State.

Oh yeah, the critically important "pro-Zionist" stooges Sisi in Egypt and King Abdullah in might be overthrown by masses of outraged Arab Street. So at the very least, kiss the Peace Treaties good-bye (just whe Israel was finally starting to have real important Sunni allies, including powerful Saudi Arabia on its side...)

Want all that and more, Zilla? Because once you get this monster-ball rolling, it's gonna roll over everybody and everything in its path.

And the thing is, if an Arab with no security record one day wakes up and decides to end his own miserable life by stabbing a bunch of random people on the street, there is NOTHING you can do to prevent it. Not on Tel Aviv. Not in Jerusalem.

Not in Paris. Not in New York. Not anywhere.
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that was certainly a mouthful....Israel is going to get condemned no matter what it does....saying goes better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
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No, it's called reality. Not cookie-cutter quick solutions in a video game or Hollywood movie.

I know it's not what you want to hear. I bet Avigdor Lieberman demagogue-pyromaniac is probably gleefully warming up the pipes for a presser, as we speak, haha. "Soft on terror, Netanyahu must go"

Hey, why don't we throw some Neutron-bombs at Palestinians too, while we're at it?
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Israel News Feed ‏@IsraelHatzolah 43s43 seconds ago
TERROR CONTINUES: Israeli bus attacked and stoned by Arabs in Gush Etzion area, no injuries, Police searching area.

Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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Israel News Feed ‏@IsraelHatzolah · 5h5 hours ago
BREAKING NEWS - TEL AVIV: At least 2 Israelis wounded, after being stabbed by Arab terrorist on Ben Zvi st, United Hatzalah rushing.


Israel News Feed ‏@IsraelHatzolah · 30m30 minutes ago
TEL AVIV U/D: Arab terrorist who stabbed to death two Jews at prayer and moderately wounded a third, worked at a local restaurant nearby.




Israel News Feed ‏@IsraelHatzolah · 2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING PHOTO - TEL AVIV: Knife used by Arab terrorist, murdering 2 Israelis and wounding 1 Israeli in a Synagogue.

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The Telegraph ‏@Telegraph · 2m2 minutes ago
#BREAKING: Two schoolboys stabbed at West Dulwich academy


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they say one person arrested but not if it is Terror related
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this better get more than some pin prick strikes or houses demolished, this is freaking ridiculous
 Quoting: GodzillaReturns


Plenty is being done to nearly stop terror in November alone most attacks subsided. You expect miracles. Totally unrealistic, esp.

You want them to totally close off West Bank? stop Palestinian workers from coming in? Randomly start bombing the many leaders of the many terrorist factions both in Gaza and West Bank? Maybe Israeli-Arab areas if this is revenge for banning the Northern Islamic Movement a few days ago?

Before even knowing if this was spontaneous twitter-related, Paris ISIS inspired retards at work.... or actually masterminded by an organization?


Then you'll get the one thing that all parties wanted to avoid: a full-blown 3rd Intifada. An all-out war, Abbas security forces who have a TON of automatic weapons will be forced to join the fight. Israeli Arabs for their part will literally set the country on fire (see: Carmiel fire in late 2010 for a small preview)

It will be a long war, the world will suddenly forget about ISIS, Iranian nuke deal, all other problems. It will be "Save Gaza, Palestine under Zionist Genocide 24/7" global media coverage, protests like you've never seen before.

10s of billions of dollars damage to the sensitive high-tech Israeli economy.

Who knows, Hezbollah might just decide this is a perfect time to rehabilitate its image in the eyes of the Sunni world and over-run the Israeli north, while raining down big missiles on the country.

Obama would have his excuse to act all "outraged" at Israeli disproportionate self-defense and withhold a UNSC veto. Which would have devastating long-term legal ramifications for the Jewish State.

Oh yeah, the critically important "pro-Zionist" stooges Sisi in Egypt and King Abdullah in might be overthrown by masses of outraged Arab Street. So at the very least, kiss the Peace Treaties good-bye (just whe Israel was finally starting to have real important Sunni allies, including powerful Saudi Arabia on its side...)

Want all that and more, Zilla? Because once you get this monster-ball rolling, it's gonna roll over everybody and everything in its path.

And the thing is, if an Arab with no security record one day wakes up and decides to end his own miserable life by stabbing a bunch of random people on the street, there is NOTHING you can do to prevent it. Not on Tel Aviv. Not in Jerusalem.

Not in Paris. Not in New York. Not anywhere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70713219


that was certainly a mouthful....Israel is going to get condemned no matter what it does....saying goes better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
 Quoting: GodzillaReturns


No, it's called reality. Not cookie-cutter quick solutions in a video game or Hollywood movie.

I know it's not what you want to hear. I bet Avigdor Lieberman demagogue-pyromaniac is probably gleefully warming up the pipes for a presser, as we speak, haha. "Soft on terror, Netanyahu must go"

Hey, why don't we throw some Neutron-bombs at Palestinians too, while we're at it?
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Well if that as the thought process back in WWII we probably wouldn't be here, instead of giving excuses for not doing things, should be finding ways of making ops succeed. So worried about what can go wrong instead of focusing on getting the task done. I'm not advocating neutron bombs or genocidal campaings....what I am advocating..holding these so called leaders of the territories to account...if necessary..take em out to make way for people who are interested in peace and not in the status quo. I think all those that have died deserve that to be tried at least.
For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF

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Seth Frantzman ‏@sfrantzman · 60s60 seconds ago  Israel
"The terror wave continues - 5 killed", Channel 2 summing up the day so far, indeed this day is big change from last weeks
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The Jerusalem Post ‏@Jerusalem_Post · 37s37 seconds ago
Jew burned in effigy by Polish anti-migrant demonstrators [link to dlvr.it] #Diaspora
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'Terrorist bypassed traffic jam, sprayed cars with bullets' [link to dlvr.it]

Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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Plenty is being done to nearly stop terror in November alone most attacks subsided. You expect miracles. Totally unrealistic, esp.

You want them to totally close off West Bank? stop Palestinian workers from coming in? Randomly start bombing the many leaders of the many terrorist factions both in Gaza and West Bank? Maybe Israeli-Arab areas if this is revenge for banning the Northern Islamic Movement a few days ago?

Before even knowing if this was spontaneous twitter-related, Paris ISIS inspired retards at work.... or actually masterminded by an organization?


Then you'll get the one thing that all parties wanted to avoid: a full-blown 3rd Intifada. An all-out war, Abbas security forces who have a TON of automatic weapons will be forced to join the fight. Israeli Arabs for their part will literally set the country on fire (see: Carmiel fire in late 2010 for a small preview)

It will be a long war, the world will suddenly forget about ISIS, Iranian nuke deal, all other problems. It will be "Save Gaza, Palestine under Zionist Genocide 24/7" global media coverage, protests like you've never seen before.

10s of billions of dollars damage to the sensitive high-tech Israeli economy.

Who knows, Hezbollah might just decide this is a perfect time to rehabilitate its image in the eyes of the Sunni world and over-run the Israeli north, while raining down big missiles on the country.

Obama would have his excuse to act all "outraged" at Israeli disproportionate self-defense and withhold a UNSC veto. Which would have devastating long-term legal ramifications for the Jewish State.

Oh yeah, the critically important "pro-Zionist" stooges Sisi in Egypt and King Abdullah in might be overthrown by masses of outraged Arab Street. So at the very least, kiss the Peace Treaties good-bye (just whe Israel was finally starting to have real important Sunni allies, including powerful Saudi Arabia on its side...)

Want all that and more, Zilla? Because once you get this monster-ball rolling, it's gonna roll over everybody and everything in its path.

And the thing is, if an Arab with no security record one day wakes up and decides to end his own miserable life by stabbing a bunch of random people on the street, there is NOTHING you can do to prevent it. Not on Tel Aviv. Not in Jerusalem.

Not in Paris. Not in New York. Not anywhere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70713219


that was certainly a mouthful....Israel is going to get condemned no matter what it does....saying goes better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
 Quoting: GodzillaReturns


No, it's called reality. Not cookie-cutter quick solutions in a video game or Hollywood movie.

I know it's not what you want to hear. I bet Avigdor Lieberman demagogue-pyromaniac is probably gleefully warming up the pipes for a presser, as we speak, haha. "Soft on terror, Netanyahu must go"

Hey, why don't we throw some Neutron-bombs at Palestinians too, while we're at it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70713219


Well if that as the thought process back in WWII we probably wouldn't be here, instead of giving excuses for not doing things, should be finding ways of making ops succeed. So worried about what can go wrong instead of focusing on getting the task done. I'm not advocating neutron bombs or genocidal campaings....what I am advocating..holding these so called leaders of the territories to account...if necessary..take em out to make way for people who are interested in peace and not in the status quo. I think all those that have died deserve that to be tried at least.
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Mr. Zilla, with all due respect, I already explained in my "mouthful" post what it is that you are (implictly) suggesting.

It took 4 or 5 years to stop the 2nd Intifada. And that was when hard-liner Ariel Sharon was in power and George Bush was protecting his ass at the UN!. No comparison to today when Obama is just waiting for Bibi to give him an excuse to betray Israel at the UN.

(another big difference: in 2001-2005, Palestinian terror groups had yet to master the art of global PR; there was no smart-phone in the hands of every other Palestinian kid, and terror groups didn't have sophisticated communication-encryption technologies that they do today. Thank Edward Snowden for that, too, LOL.

And was still super-hard to defeat them, took years and bankrupted the Israeli economy in the process! Think about that for a minute, Zilla)

It sounds nice on paper, but in reality you are suggesting HELL ON EARTH breaking loose. Just as Israel has put terror wave behind it in only 1 month (firebomb and stone attacks and protests are down by whopping 90% in November as compared to the 'Black October).

Israel is finally making its case to the world, after Paris attacks. Fought off numerous diplomatic attacks. Finally getting some deep cooperation from Arab state leaders (albeit mostly behind the scenes).

The tiny 1-seat majority government of Israeli Ronald Reagan is finally stable, after passing the 2015-2016 budget... Left Coup aided by Obama has failed thus far. Even Israeli Arabs are reluctantly admitting life is much better under Jewish State than in Syrian civil war or whatever....

Again, I know you are saying this emotionally, out of good intentions. But unfortunately, reality on the ground is SUPER-COMPLICATED. Like, beyond an average poster's wildest dreams complicated.

Iran, Putin, Hamas, Obama, Erdogan, Muslim Brotherhood would LOVE, LOVE, LOVE for a full-blown 3rd Intifada War to start. So would the western media who have been forced to concentrate on Islamic terror recently rather than their favorite subject (see: 'Zionist Baby-killers')

Israeli authorities already do so much unprecedented measures, you won't even read about them probably.

You want all that to be thrown away because some miserable lone wolf in Tel Aviv stabbed 2 people? As heart-breaking as it is, you just can't do that. Sorry.

Killing terrorist leaders? Who? Where? There are literally 100's of various Palestinian officials, field commanders, spiritual leaders in Gaza and WB? Probably already going into hiding underneath children's schools or hospitals as we speak. You kill 1 of them, you unleash Hell. Plain and simple.

Sure, if investigation shows it was a disguised Hamas or Islamic Jihad or Fatah operation, OK Israel may have no choice.

If suicide bombings resume, sure you will have War. Trust me.

But until then, patience is in order.

PS. World War 2, you say? Seriously? Today all of them, Patton, Bomber Harris, Roosevelt, Churchill, De Gaulle would be war-criminals in the Hague.

And the Jewish State doesn't even have that kind of luxury. If it starts carpet-bombing entire cities, then, it would be literally DIS-SOLVED at the United Nations. Legally.
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The Jerusalem Post ‏@Jerusalem_Post · 3m3 minutes ago
Swedish Jews close synagogues after terror threat raised [link to dlvr.it] #Diaspora
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Two killed in Tel Aviv attack identified as Reuven Aviram, 51, of Ramla, and Aharon Yesayev, 32, of Holon [link to htz.li]

Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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UPDATE: 18-Year-Old American Among Dead in Gush Etzion Shooting Attack [link to fb.me]

Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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Israel News ‏@IsraelNewsNow · 7s7 seconds ago
#IsraeltheRegion #chemicalweapons #ISIslamicState #Iraq Officials: Islamic State seeking chemical weapons [link to dlvr.it]

 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box
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that was certainly a mouthful....Israel is going to get condemned no matter what it does....saying goes better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
 Quoting: GodzillaReturns


No, it's called reality. Not cookie-cutter quick solutions in a video game or Hollywood movie.

I know it's not what you want to hear. I bet Avigdor Lieberman demagogue-pyromaniac is probably gleefully warming up the pipes for a presser, as we speak, haha. "Soft on terror, Netanyahu must go"

Hey, why don't we throw some Neutron-bombs at Palestinians too, while we're at it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70713219


Well if that as the thought process back in WWII we probably wouldn't be here, instead of giving excuses for not doing things, should be finding ways of making ops succeed. So worried about what can go wrong instead of focusing on getting the task done. I'm not advocating neutron bombs or genocidal campaings....what I am advocating..holding these so called leaders of the territories to account...if necessary..take em out to make way for people who are interested in peace and not in the status quo. I think all those that have died deserve that to be tried at least.
 Quoting: GodzillaReturns


Mr. Zilla, with all due respect, I already explained in my "mouthful" post what it is that you are (implictly) suggesting.

It took 4 or 5 years to stop the 2nd Intifada. And that was when hard-liner Ariel Sharon was in power and George Bush was protecting his ass at the UN!. No comparison to today when Obama is just waiting for Bibi to give him an excuse to betray Israel at the UN.

(another big difference: in 2001-2005, Palestinian terror groups had yet to master the art of global PR; there was no smart-phone in the hands of every other Palestinian kid, and terror groups didn't have sophisticated communication-encryption technologies that they do today. Thank Edward Snowden for that, too, LOL.

And was still super-hard to defeat them, took years and bankrupted the Israeli economy in the process! Think about that for a minute, Zilla)

It sounds nice on paper, but in reality you are suggesting HELL ON EARTH breaking loose. Just as Israel has put terror wave behind it in only 1 month (firebomb and stone attacks and protests are down by whopping 90% in November as compared to the 'Black October).

Israel is finally making its case to the world, after Paris attacks. Fought off numerous diplomatic attacks. Finally getting some deep cooperation from Arab state leaders (albeit mostly behind the scenes).

The tiny 1-seat majority government of Israeli Ronald Reagan is finally stable, after passing the 2015-2016 budget... Left Coup aided by Obama has failed thus far. Even Israeli Arabs are reluctantly admitting life is much better under Jewish State than in Syrian civil war or whatever....

Again, I know you are saying this emotionally, out of good intentions. But unfortunately, reality on the ground is SUPER-COMPLICATED. Like, beyond an average poster's wildest dreams complicated.

Iran, Putin, Hamas, Obama, Erdogan, Muslim Brotherhood would LOVE, LOVE, LOVE for a full-blown 3rd Intifada War to start. So would the western media who have been forced to concentrate on Islamic terror recently rather than their favorite subject (see: 'Zionist Baby-killers')

Israeli authorities already do so much unprecedented measures, you won't even read about them probably.

You want all that to be thrown away because some miserable lone wolf in Tel Aviv stabbed 2 people? As heart-breaking as it is, you just can't do that. Sorry.

Killing terrorist leaders? Who? Where? There are literally 100's of various Palestinian officials, field commanders, spiritual leaders in Gaza and WB? Probably already going into hiding underneath children's schools or hospitals as we speak. You kill 1 of them, you unleash Hell. Plain and simple.

Sure, if investigation shows it was a disguised Hamas or Islamic Jihad or Fatah operation, OK Israel may have no choice.

If suicide bombings resume, sure you will have War. Trust me.

But until then, patience is in order.

PS. World War 2, you say? Seriously? Today all of them, Patton, Bomber Harris, Roosevelt, Churchill, De Gaulle would be war-criminals in the Hague.

And the Jewish State doesn't even have that kind of luxury. If it starts carpet-bombing entire cities, then, it would be literally DIS-SOLVED at the United Nations. Legally.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70713219


let's just say that we have differeing opinion on how it should go and leave it at that
For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF

If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say





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