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"There have been many questions about the countries forecast specially the one focusing on the United States of America (USA). They won't be answered one by one but below you can find some explanation, thoughts and reflections. We are going to keep this as short as possible.

The majority of the economic and demographic data used in the making of the forecasts is widely available by institutions such as the CIA, IMF, UN, USG, etc. You can see the most relevant data at every single country's page. There is a tiny part of data coming from a variety of shadow sources such as Internet gurus, unsigned reports and others. But all these sources are from the internet and are of public domain for at least a minority. For example, several years ago Dagong, the Chinese ratings agency, published a report analyzing the physical economy of the States comparing it with those of China, Germany and Japan. The conclusion was that the US GDP was something between $5 to $10 trillion instead of $15 trillion as officially reported by the USG. We assume that the official data, especially economic, released by governments is fake, cooked or distorted in some degree. Historically it is well known that the former Soviet Union was making up fake statistics years before its collapse. Western as well as other countries are making up their numbers today to conceal their real state of affairs. We are sure that many people out there can find government statistics in their own countries that by their own personal experience are hard to believe or are so optimistic that may belong to a different country.

Despite the numeric data "quantity" there is a "quality" model which has not a direct translation into numeric data. The 2014 strain of Ebola has a death rate of 50-60% but try to imagine what would happen if there is a pandemic of Ebola with hundreds of thousands or millions infected with the virus. So far the few cases of Ebola-infected people have "enjoyed" intensive healthcare with anti-viral and breathing assistance but above all with abundant human support by Physicians and nurses. In a pandemic scenario that kind of healthcare won't be available for the overwhelming number of infected leading to a dramatic increase of the death rate due to the lack of proper healthcare. The "quality" factor is that the death rate could increase to 80-90% in a pandemic scenario from the stated 50-60% rate. The figure itself is not important what is relevant is the fact that the scenario can evolve beyond the initial conditions from a 50% death toll to more than 90%. By the way, no pandemic or nuclear war is included in the forecast.

The key element to understand the process that the USA will enter in the upcoming decade is migration. In the past, specially in the 20th century, the key factor that allowed the USA to rise to its colossus status was immigration with the benefits of a demographic expansion supporting the credit expansion and the brain drain from the rest of the world benefiting the States. The collapse of the Western financial system will wipe out the standard of living of its population while ending ponzi schemes such as the stock exchange and the pension funds. The population will be hit so badly by a full array of bubbles and ponzi schemes that the migration engine will start to work in reverse accelerating itself due to ripple effects thus leading to the demise of the States. This unseen situation for the States will develop itself in a cascade pattern with unprecedented and devastating effects for the economy. Jobs offshoring will surely end with many American Corporations relocating overseas thus becoming foreign Corporations!!!! We see a significant part of the American population migrating to Latin America and Asia while migration to Europe - suffering a similar illness - won't be relevant. Nevertheless the death toll will be horrible. Take into account that the Soviet Union's population was poorer than the Americans nowadays or even then. The ex-Soviets suffered during the following struggle in the 1990s with a significant death toll and the loss of national pride. Might we say "Twice the pride, double the fall"? Nope. The American standard of living is one of the highest, far more than double of the Soviets while having added a services economy that will be gone along with the financial system. When pensioners see their retirement disappear in front of their eyes and there are no servicing jobs you can imagine what is going to happen next. At least younger people can migrate. Never in human history were so many elders among the population. In past centuries people were lucky to get to their 30s or 40s. The American downfall is set to be far worse than the Soviet Union's one. A confluence of crisis with a devastating result.

The Demographic crisis in the former Soviet Union countries has extended for over two decades, if we accept that it ended early in this decade (2010s). The demographic crisis will hit the World in the near future and is projected to last between three and eight decades more or less depending on technological breakthrough and environmental issues. The aftermath is more likely a frozen picture with the population numbers staying the same for a very, very long period of time. The countries forecast population numbers do reflect birth/deaths but also migratory movements. Many countries are going to increase their gross population due to immigration while their native population may shrink.

Over the past two thousand years we have witnessed the Western civilization built around the Mediterranean Sea shifting to Northern Europe and then by the mid 20th century shifting to an Atlantic axis to finally get centered into the States in the past 30 years. The next move will see the civilization being centered in Asia with Russia and China on top. Historically a change in the economic paradigm has resulted in a death toll that is rarely highlighted by mainstream historians. When the transition from rural areas to large cities happened in Europe many people unable to accept the new paradigm killed themselves. They killed themselves by a psychological factor. This is not mainstream but it is true. A new crisis joins old, well known patterns with new ones.

Sorry to disappoint many of you with our forecast. It is getting worse and worse every year since the beginning of the pre-crisis in 2007. It is already said that this website is non-profit, built on spare time and we provide our information and services AS IS without further explanations and/or guarantees. We are not linked to any government in any way, shape or form. We are not a death or satanic cult or arms dealers as some BS is floating around the internet on this topic. Take into account that the forecast is nothing more than a model whether flawed or correct. It is not God's word or a magic device that allows to foresee the future.

Sunday, October 26th, 2014"

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"[ED NOTE: The 2025 population statistic in Deagel.com charts should be read as population to be culled by 2025, NOT population remaining as of 2025.]

This projected kill rate [culling Americans over the 10 years 2015-25 from 370 million inhabitants to 69 million] can be projected as representing the cumulative effects of the documented Depopulation Plan including:

EbolaGate Vaccine Biowarfare Martial Law false flag op
SEE EbolaGate: www.exopolitics.blogs.com/ebolagate
HAARP/Chemtrails/GMO implanting and toxic kills
Fukushima/DU radiation
State terror/War
FEMA/concentration camps including execution by starvation, guillotine, firing squad, gas
Economic and Financial false flag - Death by starvation and displacement; Economic failures and downturns in the USA and Western nations are primariluy the result of intentional economic false flags by the Federal Reserva Bank and other war crimes racketeering organizations
SEE EcologyNews: www.ecologynews.com
All of the above methodologies, including the planned depopulation chart itself, are based on assumptions that as of December 21, 2012 [some say other dates] are scientifically incorrect.

The above projections are based on a catastrophic timeline that favored duality consciousness in our 3rd density time-space hologram. The paradigm of "Duality Consciousness" is "I win you lose". The above false flag ops and the above human population cull rates are all based on Duality Consciousness."

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Wheeew....that's alot of info to take onboard! So, sorry to ask some silly questions, but here I go....



"[ED NOTE: The 2025 population statistic in Deagel.com charts should be read as population to be culled by 2025, NOT population remaining as of 2025.]

This projected kill rate [culling Americans over the 10 years 2015-25 from 370 million inhabitants to 69 million]"...

....so Im confused as the first sentence says "pop to be culled NOT pop remaining", but the next sentence says " culling FROM 370 mil TO 69 mil". I went to the links but still not sure which statement they are supporting.

Also, I didn't quite get their explanation of where their data comes from.....can you break it down barney style for me?

Please and thank you in advance grinning
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Wheeew....that's alot of info to take onboard! So, sorry to ask some silly questions, but here I go....



"[ED NOTE: The 2025 population statistic in Deagel.com charts should be read as population to be culled by 2025, NOT population remaining as of 2025.]

This projected kill rate [culling Americans over the 10 years 2015-25 from 370 million inhabitants to 69 million]"...

....so Im confused as the first sentence says "pop to be culled NOT pop remaining", but the next sentence says " culling FROM 370 mil TO 69 mil". I went to the links but still not sure which statement they are supporting.

Also, I didn't quite get their explanation of where their data comes from.....can you break it down barney style for me?

Please and thank you in advance grinning
 Quoting: shiftysailorgirl


Unfortunately I am not the author of those sites, so it is hard for me to tell exactly what they mean.

However, from the explanation from Deagel, I have to tend to think they are 'over estimating' their numbers.

I believe this is NOT A CULL, but a result of the U.S. losing 'reserve currency status'. As a result, there are going to be a lot of folks losing their .gov monies because those are unfunded liabilities.
When one out of three are dependent on the .gov for the very bread they eat, we can see where these stats come from.

I am also thinking that Jade Helm is related, as the 'exercise' ends about the same time AIIB lights up ...
It would be like the military to plan this 'exercise' and already have boots on the ground and contingencies ...

I also believe that, since Deagel has been reporting since 2007 and making these predictions, that they are more credible them most.
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5 Stars, a "Suggest Pin", and many thanks for providing this for us to look at.
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5 Stars, a "Suggest Pin", and many thanks for providing this for us to look at.
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Deagel,smeagle. Man can't be trusted.
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Deagel,smeagle. Man can't be trusted.
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If you would have read his statement, I think it makes perfect sense. So what is not to be trusted?
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Doctors Warned Life Expectancy Could Go Down, And It Did

For the past thousand years, humans have lived longer and longer than their ancestors. Baring pandemics or wars, the human life expectancy has ticked ever upward. And in recent years, life expectancy has shot even higher, spurred by advances in medicine to combat childhood diseases and now-curable disorders, along with gains in access to health care, education, clean food and drinking water.

But a recent study shows a disruption in that trend, says The New York Times. The study indicates that from 1990 to 2008, some Americans have actually seen their expected lifespan drop. Researchers found that white women who didn’t finish high school lost, as a group, five years off the ends of their lives. White men with the same educational level lost three years. (Other ethnic groups did not see similar declines.

[link to www.smithsonianmag.com]
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Doctors Warned Life Expectancy Could Go Down, And It Did

For the past thousand years, humans have lived longer and longer than their ancestors. Baring pandemics or wars, the human life expectancy has ticked ever upward. And in recent years, life expectancy has shot even higher, spurred by advances in medicine to combat childhood diseases and now-curable disorders, along with gains in access to health care, education, clean food and drinking water.

But a recent study shows a disruption in that trend, says The New York Times. The study indicates that from 1990 to 2008, some Americans have actually seen their expected lifespan drop. Researchers found that white women who didn’t finish high school lost, as a group, five years off the ends of their lives. White men with the same educational level lost three years. (Other ethnic groups did not see similar declines.

[link to www.smithsonianmag.com]
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I agree that life expectancy is on the downward path. However I believe it is because of all the chemicals and GMO's that are .gov are allowing in our food system.
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Doctors Warned Life Expectancy Could Go Down, And It Did

For the past thousand years, humans have lived longer and longer than their ancestors. Baring pandemics or wars, the human life expectancy has ticked ever upward. And in recent years, life expectancy has shot even higher, spurred by advances in medicine to combat childhood diseases and now-curable disorders, along with gains in access to health care, education, clean food and drinking water.

But a recent study shows a disruption in that trend, says The New York Times. The study indicates that from 1990 to 2008, some Americans have actually seen their expected lifespan drop. Researchers found that white women who didn’t finish high school lost, as a group, five years off the ends of their lives. White men with the same educational level lost three years. (Other ethnic groups did not see similar declines.

[link to www.smithsonianmag.com]
 Quoting: Tess.


I agree that life expectancy is on the downward path. However I believe it is because of all the chemicals and GMO's that are .gov are allowing in our food system.
 Quoting: Ozark Granny

But the stats are about the US, yet it's only whites that are declining. Yet they all eat the same food.
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What neck of the Ozarks you from, Granny dear?
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What neck of the Ozarks you from, Granny dear?
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Missouri Ozarks, hill country.

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Doctors Warned Life Expectancy Could Go Down, And It Did

For the past thousand years, humans have lived longer and longer than their ancestors. Baring pandemics or wars, the human life expectancy has ticked ever upward. And in recent years, life expectancy has shot even higher, spurred by advances in medicine to combat childhood diseases and now-curable disorders, along with gains in access to health care, education, clean food and drinking water.

But a recent study shows a disruption in that trend, says The New York Times. The study indicates that from 1990 to 2008, some Americans have actually seen their expected lifespan drop. Researchers found that white women who didn’t finish high school lost, as a group, five years off the ends of their lives. White men with the same educational level lost three years. (Other ethnic groups did not see similar declines.

[link to www.smithsonianmag.com]
 Quoting: Tess.


I agree that life expectancy is on the downward path. However I believe it is because of all the chemicals and GMO's that are .gov are allowing in our food system.
 Quoting: Ozark Granny

But the stats are about the US, yet it's only whites that are declining. Yet they all eat the same food.
 Quoting: Tess.


I can't explain it sweetie. hf

I just grow my own, so I don't have to worry that politics meets my greens!

But I truly do not believe that is why Deagel gave America such a population drop. They are looking at 2:3 ... I have to believe it is the crash of the USD and folks being so dependent on the .gov.
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[link to academic.evergreen.edu]

The above link has a listing of US Military Interventions from 1890-2014. In the past 125 years, the US has been pretty busy with involvement of dozens of countries worldwide.

Whether or not they were good 'causes' is not the point.
The US has a target on her back. Empires don't last forever.
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Leave the USA if you can!!!
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Leave the USA if you can!!!
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This is my home. My family were pioneers to this country and have lived in the Ozarks for over 12 generations.

I served in the USMC and am a Vietnam era Veteran. USMC game me sharp shooter ... (all those rabbits!)

I will stay and defend my Oath, God and Country. Any enemy of the Constitution, will meet Granny!

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Leave the USA if you can!!!
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Where?

Half of Australia and UK, one third of France etc. also will go.
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deagle seems too inside to be trustworthy

no one in his position speaks out as much and as often
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Wheeew....that's alot of info to take onboard! So, sorry to ask some silly questions, but here I go....



"[ED NOTE: The 2025 population statistic in Deagel.com charts should be read as population to be culled by 2025, NOT population remaining as of 2025.]

This projected kill rate [culling Americans over the 10 years 2015-25 from 370 million inhabitants to 69 million]"...

....so Im confused as the first sentence says "pop to be culled NOT pop remaining", but the next sentence says " culling FROM 370 mil TO 69 mil". I went to the links but still not sure which statement they are supporting.

Also, I didn't quite get their explanation of where their data comes from.....can you break it down barney style for me?

Please and thank you in advance grinning
 Quoting: shiftysailorgirl


Unfortunately I am not the author of those sites, so it is hard for me to tell exactly what they mean.

However, from the explanation from Deagel, I have to tend to think they are 'over estimating' their numbers.

I believe this is NOT A CULL, but a result of the U.S. losing 'reserve currency status'. As a result, there are going to be a lot of folks losing their .gov monies because those are unfunded liabilities.
When one out of three are dependent on the .gov for the very bread they eat, we can see where these stats come from.

I am also thinking that Jade Helm is related, as the 'exercise' ends about the same time AIIB lights up ...
It would be like the military to plan this 'exercise' and already have boots on the ground and contingencies ...

I also believe that, since Deagel has been reporting since 2007 and making these predictions, that they are more credible them most.
 Quoting: Ozark Granny


I think you are on to something. We can acknowledge that complicated systems break in complicated ways. There are many hidden hands at the controls. Many nations have changed banking rules. Eliminating deposit insurance, bail ins and negative interest rates point to the utter abstraction of money and money rights at this point.

The average citizen of any nation is hard pressed to explain what is a 'reserve currency' is and what privileges comes with that status. I don't believe there can be a smooth transition to a new reserve currency. The AIIB will have some issues especially at the beginning. The countries involved will be somewhat able to trade during the collapse of the dollar, especially with each other. I don't think the dollar will collapse once that bank opens. But anything is possible.

I agree people who depend on Government handouts , especially in densely populated areas, will perish first, probably from violence rather than starvation. I think the newly poor (no bank deposits/bail ins) former middle to upper class will be the hardest hit though. Especially when essential services and the supply chain is interrupted. A dollar collapse will initiate a population collapse for sure.
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From the scripture we know that 4,666,666,666 of us will die by September 28 2015 and the last third 2,333,333,333 will die by fire on that day and the next. SaintVron

King James Bible Zechariah 13:9
And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.
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The white race will be outbreeded and already outnumbered by 5 to 1

230 million unborn white babies population loss

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white population in US is around 240 million, so all that will perish are whites it seems. Same seems to be in Europe, oh well then...White people are not going to do anything unfortunately, we are quite clearly doomed as a race. violin
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