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It's all Obamas fault. huffy
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No.

Obama is the product of multiculturalism, secularism and political correctness .
 Quoting: Lex Talionis


All of which are jewish inventions oy vey !!! Read the Protocols professor.
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The piece that many people miss, most purposefully, if that the Judeo-Christian moral framework was just that: a moral framework. Small minded people contend that one must either accept every word of the bible literally or discard it completely. Wiser men see it for what it is...the wisdom of the ages told in parable; mixed with legend, propaganda, and allegory from various times in our history, that provides a path for men to live side by side in relative peace.

The Bible is probably the most important document in the Western world, and is in fact the underpinnings of our society whether one is able to accept that or not.

Personally I don't believe in "God", but I do believe in the value of the 10 commandments and the basis of Judeo-Christian values and ethics.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11454231


Please do not use the word 'Jude0-Christianity'.

It is a made up word that is meant to tie Christian people to Jews... Jews arwe the enemies of Christ... Judeo-Christianity is a term invented by Jews o enslave the minds of Christians.

You can live as Jesus commanded without being a slave to Israel.
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You do know that Jesus was a Jew, don't you?
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Thank "god" man has evolved and became more intelligent. Intelligent enough to cast off the chains of religion. Our Constitution is secular and the product of the Enlightenment; not holy script (which retards and debilitates the mind).
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Evolved? Oh, really. Evolved into atheistic Communism or socialism, where hardship and despair are as great, if not far greater, than in places tied to Christianity? Evolved into broken-down libtardism, where just about all the slummiest of slums pray to the religion of libtardism?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68857705


Don't confuse politics and religion as you have been brainwashed/conditioned to do so. Most atheists believe in complete freedom. In a secular government (like ours was meant to be); liberty trumps security and government interests. Communism = Judaism. Cheeks of the same A$$.
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The piece that many people miss, most purposefully, if that the Judeo-Christian moral framework was just that: a moral framework. Small minded people contend that one must either accept every word of the bible literally or discard it completely. Wiser men see it for what it is...the wisdom of the ages told in parable; mixed with legend, propaganda, and allegory from various times in our history, that provides a path for men to live side by side in relative peace.

The Bible is probably the most important document in the Western world, and is in fact the underpinnings of our society whether one is able to accept that or not.

Personally I don't believe in "God", but I do believe in the value of the 10 commandments and the basis of Judeo-Christian values and ethics.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11454231


Please do not use the word 'Jude0-Christianity'.

It is a made up word that is meant to tie Christian people to Jews... Jews arwe the enemies of Christ... Judeo-Christianity is a term invented by Jews o enslave the minds of Christians.

You can live as Jesus commanded without being a slave to Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59630342


You do know that Jesus was a Jew, don't you?
 Quoting: Avery Bullock


No, he was not. Jesus created the delimma: the christian anti-christ is the jewish messiah; the jewish messiah is the christian anti-christ. Ignorance is the greatest enemy of mankind.
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The piece that many people miss, most purposefully, if that the Judeo-Christian moral framework was just that: a moral framework. Small minded people contend that one must either accept every word of the bible literally or discard it completely. Wiser men see it for what it is...the wisdom of the ages told in parable; mixed with legend, propaganda, and allegory from various times in our history, that provides a path for men to live side by side in relative peace.

The Bible is probably the most important document in the Western world, and is in fact the underpinnings of our society whether one is able to accept that or not.

Personally I don't believe in "God", but I do believe in the value of the 10 commandments and the basis of Judeo-Christian values and ethics.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11454231


Please do not use the word 'Jude0-Christianity'.

It is a made up word that is meant to tie Christian people to Jews... Jews arwe the enemies of Christ... Judeo-Christianity is a term invented by Jews o enslave the minds of Christians.

You can live as Jesus commanded without being a slave to Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59630342


You do know that Jesus was a Jew, don't you?
 Quoting: Avery Bullock


No, he was not. Jesus created the delimma: the christian anti-christ is the jewish messiah; the jewish messiah is the christian anti-christ. Ignorance is the greatest enemy of mankind.
 Quoting: harry 42263367


That's a lie.
Jesus was, is, and always will be a Jew.
When He returns He will reign from Jerusalem,
not Rome or anywhere else.
Jesus was born of a Jewish virgin, Mary.
The angel told Mary He would sit on the throne
of his father David. (a Jew)
All of the twelve Apostles were Jews.
Most of the early church consisted of Jews.



I love how people who know NOTHING of Holy Scripture,
quote, or should I say MISQUOTE it day and night.

For the unlearned out there:
Don't listen to them,
don't listen to me.
Pick up a good King James Bible
and read it from cover to cover,
and you will learn who the liars are,
and they are MANY here on GLP.
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7 Billion people on the planet!
That's a BIG number!
And I am one.
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Please do not use the word 'Jude0-Christianity'.

It is a made up word that is meant to tie Christian people to Jews... Jews arwe the enemies of Christ... Judeo-Christianity is a term invented by Jews o enslave the minds of Christians.

You can live as Jesus commanded without being a slave to Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59630342


You do know that Jesus was a Jew, don't you?
 Quoting: Avery Bullock


No, he was not. Jesus created the delimma: the christian anti-christ is the jewish messiah; the jewish messiah is the christian anti-christ. Ignorance is the greatest enemy of mankind.
 Quoting: harry 42263367


That's a lie.
Jesus was, is, and always will be a Jew.
When He returns He will reign from Jerusalem,
not Rome or anywhere else.
Jesus was born of a Jewish virgin, Mary.
The angel told Mary He would sit on the throne
of his father David. (a Jew)
All of the twelve Apostles were Jews.
Most of the early church consisted of Jews.



I love how people who know NOTHING of Holy Scripture,
quote, or should I say MISQUOTE it day and night.

For the unlearned out there:
Don't listen to them,
don't listen to me.
Pick up a good King James Bible
and read it from cover to cover,
and you will learn who the liars are,
and they are MANY here on GLP.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68860790


Actually, he will reign from the New Jerusalem, which is not the same thing.
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The thing that makes me LOL about all this religious crap on this thread is they IGNORE the very fact that brought the founding fathers to this land, it was 'religious' rule they were fleeing. Freedom FROM religion was as important to them as their Christianity.
The other hysterical thing here is that the very posters on this thread will turn and vote for republicans at every election, barr none! As though the very fact they are republican makes them 'righteous' in their mind. Actually if they look around these are the anti-Christians.
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What fact factory pumped you that load of bullshit? Government enforced religion is what they were fleeing from. They wanted to worship God according to their own conscience, not one dictated by law. All State constitutional religious freedom clauses state that the State cannot establish religion or support a particular religious sect, such as the Church of England being imposed as an official religion. Religion free from government.

If you think they wanted God out of government, then why is it that in every State current constitution's preamble is a directly statement of a gratefulness to Almighty God or invoking God's favor? Some States even attribute all CIVIL and natural RIGHTS or LIBRTY as coming from God. The few States that do not have a preamble all at least acknowledge Almighty God, the Supreme Ruler, the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, our Creator, etc. in a religious freedom clause, except for New Hampshire which does at least refer to God. None of them refer to a God, ostensibly inferring a belief that there is only one God.

Hell look at Vermont's Religious Freedom clause

That all persons have a natural and unalienable right, to worship Almighty God, according to the dictates of their own consciences and understandings, as in their opinion shall be regulated by the word of God; and that no person ought to, or of right can be compelled to attend any religious worship, or erect or support any place of worship, or maintain any minister, contrary to the dictates of conscience, nor can any person be justly deprived or abridged of any civil right as a citizen, on account of religious sentiments, or peculiar mode of religious worship; and that no authority can, or ought to be vested in, or assumed by, any power whatever, that shall in any case interfere with, or in any manner control the rights of conscience, in the free exercise of religious worship. Nevertheless, every sect or denomination of Christians ought to observe the Sabbath or Lord's day, and keep up some sort of religious worship, which to them shall seem most agreeable to the revealed will of God.
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Even if we believe (and there is no proof) that Jesus was a "jew"; you still must admit the obvious: he despised the jews. And, the jews (even today) hate him. Read the Talmud.
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The beginning of the downfall of this country was hen Mossad killed Kennedy and Installed Lyndon Johnson.

That was the moment that the world was ruled by Christians to the world was ruled by Jews.

They immediately enacted the current Immigration laws and America has been in economic and cultural self destruction ever since.

This is also the rise of the 'police state' where they used the federal drug laws to arm local police departments to the teeth with automatic weapons and swat teams. Even fucking armored personnel carriers.
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It's too bad the natives of North America didn't benefit from all that Christian goodness.
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At least the Comanches aren't roasting people alive and cutting their faces off anymore.
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Who told you that ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68570882


You are officially too ignorant to debate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68860786


You believe everything from the lying tv and the lying history books. Tell me have you ever met a Comanche ?
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If the bible is proof that god and jesus exists than a marvel comic book is proof than spiderman exists

stupid religitards
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Brilliant !!!

Sounds just like something OBAMA would say !!!
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kitty It sure ain't the America that I grew up in. [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Well jewDeath which tribe is to blame for that, huh?
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You do know that Jesus was a Jew, don't you?
 Quoting: Avery Bullock


No, he was not. Jesus created the delimma: the christian anti-christ is the jewish messiah; the jewish messiah is the christian anti-christ. Ignorance is the greatest enemy of mankind.
 Quoting: harry 42263367


That's a lie.
Jesus was, is, and always will be a Jew.
When He returns He will reign from Jerusalem,
not Rome or anywhere else.
Jesus was born of a Jewish virgin, Mary.
The angel told Mary He would sit on the throne
of his father David. (a Jew)
All of the twelve Apostles were Jews.
Most of the early church consisted of Jews.



I love how people who know NOTHING of Holy Scripture,
quote, or should I say MISQUOTE it day and night.

For the unlearned out there:
Don't listen to them,
don't listen to me.
Pick up a good King James Bible
and read it from cover to cover,
and you will learn who the liars are,
and they are MANY here on GLP.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68860790


Actually, he will reign from the New Jerusalem, which is not the same thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68860786


That is NOT true.
The New Jerusalem doesn't come down from Heaven until
AFTER the millennial reign of Christ on Earth.


Revelation 20

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven,
having the key of the bottomless pit
and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon,
that old serpent, which is the Devil,
and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit,
and shut him up, and set a seal upon him,
that he should deceive the nations no more,
till the thousand years should be fulfilled:
and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them,
and judgment was given unto them:
and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded
for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God,
and which had not worshipped the beast,
neither his image, neither had received his mark
upon their foreheads, or in their hands;
and they lived and reigned with Christ
a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again
until the thousand years were finished.
This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the
first resurrection: on such the second death
hath no power, but they shall be priests of God
and of Christ,
and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired,
Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations
which are in the four quarters of the earth,
Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle:
the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth,
and compassed the camp of the saints about,
and the beloved city: and fire came down
from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast
into the lake of fire and brimstone,
where the beast and the false prophet are,
and shall be tormented day and night
for ever and ever.

11 And I saw a great white throne,
and him that sat on it, from whose face
the earth and the heaven fled away;
and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great,
stand before God; and the books were opened:
and another book was opened, which is
the book of life: and the dead were judged
out of those things which were
written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead
which were in it; and death and hell delivered
up the dead which were in them: and they were
judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the
lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written
in the book of life was cast into
the lake of fire.




Revelation 21
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth:
for the first heaven and the first earth
were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem,
coming down from God out of heaven,
prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
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At least the Comanches aren't roasting people alive and cutting their faces off anymore.
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Who told you that ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68570882


You are officially too ignorant to debate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68860786


You believe everything from the lying tv and the lying history books. Tell me have you ever met a Comanche ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68570882


I'm old enough to have known people who lived during the days of the Indian Wars and have heard firsthand, eye witness accounts.

Like I said before, you are too ignorant to debate.
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I'm an atheist so I have no agenda to promote or protect any "holy book" whatsoever. To me it is all bullshit. Literally. But that's another topic of discussion.

Let me say this though -- America was founded on Christian principals. There is no denying that those very principals made America the greatest country to ever exist and as America slowly loses her Christian principals, we can see the result -- this is a sinking ship, fast.

Those who forget where they came from soon find out how fast their end comes.

I'm not promoting atheism as that is a personal choice and I believe humans have not evolved far enough to accept the truth that there is no god, which is why we must maintain our Christian heritage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68862147


Wait ...that's a very arrogant statement. How do you know America was the best civilization to ever exist ? Did you live through all the other ones in human history ? Have you lived in any other country on Earth during these times ?
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putin

America was founded 240 years ago. Enough said.
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There were civilizations that were and are thousands of years old. And what do you mean "enough said"? What do you mean by that?
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You see that face palm I inserted? That was meant for you.

America was the greatest nation to ever exist. I'm not comparing it to ancient Greek or Roman empires. Those were dynasties that were embedded into whole nations and took millennia to build.

America when from being one giant barren landmass to the leader in, well, everything.
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At least the Comanches aren't roasting people alive and cutting their faces off anymore.
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Who told you that ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68570882


You are officially too ignorant to debate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68860786


You believe everything from the lying tv and the lying history books. Tell me have you ever met a Comanche ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68570882


I would like to add that by whitewashing their history, you don't do the Comanche any favors. They were feared and respected by both European settlers and other Indian tribes alike. And they were successful at whatever they set their minds to do.
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The piece that many people miss, most purposefully, if that the Judeo-Christian moral framework was just that: a moral framework. Small minded people contend that one must either accept every word of the bible literally or discard it completely. Wiser men see it for what it is...the wisdom of the ages told in parable; mixed with legend, propaganda, and allegory from various times in our history, that provides a path for men to live side by side in relative peace.

The Bible is probably the most important document in the Western world, and is in fact the underpinnings of our society whether one is able to accept that or not.

Personally I don't believe in "God", but I do believe in the value of the 10 commandments and the basis of Judeo-Christian values and ethics.
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Please do not use the word 'Jude0-Christianity'.

It is a made up word that is meant to tie Christian people to Jews... Jews arwe the enemies of Christ... Judeo-Christianity is a term invented by Jews o enslave the minds of Christians.

You can live as Jesus commanded without being a slave to Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59630342


lol, wow, so ignorant and frankly spookily weird. Judeo-Christian refers simply to the common values shared in the old testament; the foundation of both religions.

What an odd fellow you must be...
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Wait ...that's a very arrogant statement. How do you know America was the best civilization to ever exist ? Did you live through all the other ones in human history ? Have you lived in any other country on Earth during these times ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68570882


putin

America was founded 240 years ago. Enough said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68862147


There were civilizations that were and are thousands of years old. And what do you mean "enough said"? What do you mean by that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68570882


You see that face palm I inserted? That was meant for you.

America was the greatest nation to ever exist. I'm not comparing it to ancient Greek or Roman empires. Those were dynasties that were embedded into whole nations and took millennia to build.

America when from being one giant barren landmass to the leader in, well, everything.
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I say America is the 4th greatest in (known) history.

1. The Vatican Empire (probably includes both the EU and America)

2. Roman Empire. This is the physical manifestation of the Vatican Empire from when it was a governmental power instead of a power behind the scenes like it is today.

3. British Impire was huge and if they had the technology we have today, they would easily rule the whole world.

4. America. Is the presiding empire during the great technilogical revolution that transformed our lives in the 20th Century giving birth to the Information Age and the current Digital Age.
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The piece that many people miss, most purposefully, if that the Judeo-Christian moral framework was just that: a moral framework. Small minded people contend that one must either accept every word of the bible literally or discard it completely. Wiser men see it for what it is...the wisdom of the ages told in parable; mixed with legend, propaganda, and allegory from various times in our history, that provides a path for men to live side by side in relative peace.

The Bible is probably the most important document in the Western world, and is in fact the underpinnings of our society whether one is able to accept that or not.

Personally I don't believe in "God", but I do believe in the value of the 10 commandments and the basis of Judeo-Christian values and ethics.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11454231


Please do not use the word 'Jude0-Christianity'.

It is a made up word that is meant to tie Christian people to Jews... Jews arwe the enemies of Christ... Judeo-Christianity is a term invented by Jews o enslave the minds of Christians.

You can live as Jesus commanded without being a slave to Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59630342


lol, wow, so ignorant and frankly spookily weird. Judeo-Christian refers simply to the common values shared in the old testament; the foundation of both religions.

What an odd fellow you must be...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11454231


I am tired of attacks against Christians because of what Israel does or bcause of the 'stoning; raping and killing' that are abundant in the Old Testament.

It seems to me like Christians are being made the scape goat for everyone elses problems.
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Thank "god" man has evolved and became more intelligent. Intelligent enough to cast off the chains of religion. Our Constitution is secular and the product of the Enlightenment; not holy script (which retards and debilitates the mind).
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Blind guide
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The piece that many people miss, most purposefully, if that the Judeo-Christian moral framework was just that: a moral framework. Small minded people contend that one must either accept every word of the bible literally or discard it completely. Wiser men see it for what it is...the wisdom of the ages told in parable; mixed with legend, propaganda, and allegory from various times in our history, that provides a path for men to live side by side in relative peace.

The Bible is probably the most important document in the Western world, and is in fact the underpinnings of our society whether one is able to accept that or not.

Personally I don't believe in "God", but I do believe in the value of the 10 commandments and the basis of Judeo-Christian values and ethics.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11454231


Please do not use the word 'Jude0-Christianity'.

It is a made up word that is meant to tie Christian people to Jews... Jews arwe the enemies of Christ... Judeo-Christianity is a term invented by Jews o enslave the minds of Christians.

You can live as Jesus commanded without being a slave to Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59630342


lol, wow, so ignorant and frankly spookily weird. Judeo-Christian refers simply to the common values shared in the old testament; the foundation of both religions.

What an odd fellow you must be...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11454231


I am tired of attacks against Christians because of what Israel does or bcause of the 'stoning; raping and killing' that are abundant in the Old Testament.

It seems to me like Christians are being made the scape goat for everyone elses problems.
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Sorry, but I don't see "Jews" raping, stoning, or enslaving anyone. The Zionist agenda being a separate and interesting topic of course, but not suited for the simple minded.
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Bash "religion" all you like but look around and see the results of a world without morality. Morality does not spontaneously appear on it's own so you see religion does have it's merits. Most people will agree the 10 commandments are pretty reasonable rules for society and it was on that basis Western societies were founded. If you know dick about history then you understand ALL the Western nations (Europe/US/Canada) were founded by Christians. You cannot dispose of Christianity without throwing out much of what made the West great.

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Gen. John B Gordon and Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest were the finest citizen-soldiers birthed in America.
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Bash "religion" all you like but look around and see the results of a world without morality. Morality does not spontaneously appear on it's own so you see religion does have it's merits. Most people will agree the 10 commandments are pretty reasonable rules for society and it was on that basis Western societies were founded. If you know dick about history then you understand ALL the Western nations (Europe/US/Canada) were founded by Christians. You cannot dispose of Christianity without throwing out much of what made the West great.
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^^^^^^^^
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The founders never told anyone that the bible was not the basis for the founding documents. They mentioned God often in all their writings. They worked hard to assure the religious freedom for all American. The freedom of religion they wanted was to keep the government out of religion, not to keep religion out of government. They knew that a government without religion would be corrupt. Amazing how they could see the future.
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America was founded 240 years ago. Enough said.
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There were civilizations that were and are thousands of years old. And what do you mean "enough said"? What do you mean by that?
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You see that face palm I inserted? That was meant for you.

America was the greatest nation to ever exist. I'm not comparing it to ancient Greek or Roman empires. Those were dynasties that were embedded into whole nations and took millennia to build.

America when from being one giant barren landmass to the leader in, well, everything.
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I say America is the 4th greatest in (known) history.

1. The Vatican Empire (probably includes both the EU and America)

2. Roman Empire. This is the physical manifestation of the Vatican Empire from when it was a governmental power instead of a power behind the scenes like it is today.

3. British Impire was huge and if they had the technology we have today, they would easily rule the whole world.

4. America. Is the presiding empire during the great technilogical revolution that transformed our lives in the 20th Century giving birth to the Information Age and the current Digital Age.
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If we apply the same standards you used to tally items 3 and 4 then indeed America is number 1 hands down. Technology is what transformed humanity like never before. For the past 50,000 years humans were languishing. Sure, progress in medicine and science led to great things but not until the founding of the USA has there ever been such advancement in such a short period.
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Bash "religion" all you like but look around and see the results of a world without morality. Morality does not spontaneously appear on it's own so you see religion does have it's merits. Most people will agree the 10 commandments are pretty reasonable rules for society and it was on that basis Western societies were founded. If you know dick about history then you understand ALL the Western nations (Europe/US/Canada) were founded by Christians. You cannot dispose of Christianity without throwing out much of what made the West great.
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You are correct. I myself am atheistic, but to deny the necessity of religion is to deny all of the greatest of modern civilization. Thus I don't promote atheism. Atheism can be dangerous especially when 1 billion humans adhere to the "teachings" of a goat fucking "prophet" and another 1 billion adhere to the contradictory teachings of a magic sky wizard.
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What are these so called "Christian principles"?

Let us see:

Don't take shit that doesn't belong to you.

Don't murder folks just cuz.

Don't be a ho.

Don't lie.

Work for your bread but one day a week you shouldn't work.

Don't worship cows and shit.

Love folks.


So based on these "Christian principles" let us see what non-christian principles might look like:

Take what you can.

Kill 'em if you can get away with it.

Say whatever is expedient.

Fuck anything that walks, kids be damned.

Worship cows, devils, and allahs.

Hate folks.



Maybe it's just me but one of the above "ideologies" seems a helluva lot more conducive to a functional society.
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There were civilizations that were and are thousands of years old. And what do you mean "enough said"? What do you mean by that?
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You see that face palm I inserted? That was meant for you.

America was the greatest nation to ever exist. I'm not comparing it to ancient Greek or Roman empires. Those were dynasties that were embedded into whole nations and took millennia to build.

America when from being one giant barren landmass to the leader in, well, everything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68862147


I say America is the 4th greatest in (known) history.

1. The Vatican Empire (probably includes both the EU and America)

2. Roman Empire. This is the physical manifestation of the Vatican Empire from when it was a governmental power instead of a power behind the scenes like it is today.

3. British Impire was huge and if they had the technology we have today, they would easily rule the whole world.

4. America. Is the presiding empire during the great technilogical revolution that transformed our lives in the 20th Century giving birth to the Information Age and the current Digital Age.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59630342


If we apply the same standards you used to tally items 3 and 4 then indeed America is number 1 hands down. Technology is what transformed humanity like never before. For the past 50,000 years humans were languishing. Sure, progress in medicine and science led to great things but not until the founding of the USA has there ever been such advancement in such a short period.
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I think what made America the greatest is the unprecedented liberties that the American people used to enjoy.

Power, glory, and even technological innovations mean nothing without freedom.
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----That all persons have a natural and unalienable right, to worship Almighty God, according to the dictates of their own consciences and understandings, as in their opinion shall be regulated by the word of God; and that no person ought to, or of right can be compelled to attend any religious worship, or erect or support any place of worship, or maintain any minister, contrary to the dictates of conscience, nor can any person be justly deprived or abridged of any civil right as a citizen, on account of religious sentiments, or peculiar mode of religious worship; and that no authority can, or ought to be vested in, or assumed by, any power whatever, that shall in any case interfere with, or in any manner control the rights of conscience, in the free exercise of religious worship.-----

This post is the finger pointing to the truth----


Context requires a deeper understanding of the Issues, those Founding Fathers were facing, in order to establish freedom of Conscience. IN order to Preserve said freedoms, from the Powers of the Pope--- NO private Law could be established as Public Law. If this had not been done--- The Pope simply declares, Catholic Law is Supreme on the Land and all "Institutions" of men are inferior to that power. The Pope and his Church were the reason this Nation had to have a "separation" of Church from State.

An American of the United States has the Freedom to exercise his or hers own Conscience--- and conversely, does not have the power of Authority to impose that "Private Conscience" as Public Law; either in Courts, or by Legislation in the States, or the Federal government.

Marxist horseshit was custom tailored to slip below the lines of resistance just like a Trojan horse--- where being an atheist, as opposed to a Deist, was touted as the superior, intellectual path to future utopia.

TO impose ones private "Beliefs" on everyone else violates that principle as enshrouded--- freedom of religion as does its negation. The question of what GOD is has destroyed what God meant to ancient mankind. Secular bias is just as bad as religious bias, when it is being used to HARM,to COERCE and to force people to do or ACT against their own Natural Will and thus, their own Conscience.

I defend the principles involved without agreeing whose version of what constitutes "reality" is factually or even morally correct. Then again, I have deep, insider knowledge from exploring those unknowns many men simply fear to tread---secular or religious--- that's the funny thing. MY observation is that both sides fear the Truth.

Trying to Save man from the Folly of his own fears is one thing--trying to save him from his own evils is quite another. America is losing the battle on both fronts as people today are too fragmented as a society, to stand firm as One Nation by the convictions of their personal conscience. The truth is there to be seen and known, but it is not a fools errand and it is not a game.

A spiritual war came to this planet and sadly enough mankind is but a Pawn in the larger drama. That which was hidden from the mind of Mankind---is the blind-spot his conscience must illuminate with those powers of Kindness, Mercy, Compassion and Forgiveness. Without these powers of the Heart--- mankind is doomed to a life of futility and suffering at the hands of masters far removed from his ordinary, mundane life.





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