America -Then vs Now. It’s Almost Unbelievable

All of which are jewish inventions oy vey !!! Read the Protocols professor.

You do know that Jesus was a Jew, don't you?

Don't confuse politics and religion as you have been brainwashed/conditioned to do so. Most atheists believe in complete freedom. In a secular government (like ours was meant to be); liberty trumps security and government interests. Communism = Judaism. Cheeks of the same A$$.

No, he was not. Jesus created the delimma: the christian anti-christ is the jewish messiah; the jewish messiah is the christian anti-christ. Ignorance is the greatest enemy of mankind.

Actually, he will reign from the New Jerusalem, which is not the same thing.

What fact factory pumped you that load of bullshit? Government enforced religion is what they were fleeing from. They wanted to worship God according to their own conscience, not one dictated by law. All State constitutional religious freedom clauses state that the State cannot establish religion or support a particular religious sect, such as the Church of England being imposed as an official religion. Religion free from government.

If you think they wanted God out of government, then why is it that in every State current constitution's preamble is a directly statement of a gratefulness to Almighty God or invoking God's favor? Some States even attribute all CIVIL and natural RIGHTS or LIBRTY as coming from God. The few States that do not have a preamble all at least acknowledge Almighty God, the Supreme Ruler, the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, our Creator, etc. in a religious freedom clause, except for New Hampshire which does at least refer to God. None of them refer to a God, ostensibly inferring a belief that there is only one God.

Hell look at Vermont's Religious Freedom clause

That all persons have a natural and unalienable right, to worship Almighty God, according to the dictates of their own consciences and understandings, as in their opinion shall be regulated by the word of God; and that no person ought to, or of right can be compelled to attend any religious worship, or erect or support any place of worship, or maintain any minister, contrary to the dictates of conscience, nor can any person be justly deprived or abridged of any civil right as a citizen, on account of religious sentiments, or peculiar mode of religious worship; and that no authority can, or ought to be vested in, or assumed by, any power whatever, that shall in any case interfere with, or in any manner control the rights of conscience, in the free exercise of religious worship. Nevertheless, every sect or denomination of Christians ought to observe the Sabbath or Lord's day, and keep up some sort of religious worship, which to them shall seem most agreeable to the revealed will of God.

Even if we believe (and there is no proof) that Jesus was a "jew"; you still must admit the obvious: he despised the jews. And, the jews (even today) hate him. Read the Talmud.

The beginning of the downfall of this country was hen Mossad killed Kennedy and Installed Lyndon Johnson.

That was the moment that the world was ruled by Christians to the world was ruled by Jews.

They immediately enacted the current Immigration laws and America has been in economic and cultural self destruction ever since.

This is also the rise of the 'police state' where they used the federal drug laws to arm local police departments to the teeth with automatic weapons and swat teams. Even fucking armored personnel carriers.

You believe everything from the lying tv and the lying history books. Tell me have you ever met a Comanche ?

Brilliant !!!

Sounds just like something OBAMA would say !!!

Well jewDeath which tribe is to blame for that, huh?

I'm old enough to have known people who lived during the days of the Indian Wars and have heard firsthand, eye witness accounts.

Like I said before, you are too ignorant to debate.

You see that face palm I inserted? That was meant for you.

America was the greatest nation to ever exist. I'm not comparing it to ancient Greek or Roman empires. Those were dynasties that were embedded into whole nations and took millennia to build.

America when from being one giant barren landmass to the leader in, well, everything.

I would like to add that by whitewashing their history, you don't do the Comanche any favors. They were feared and respected by both European settlers and other Indian tribes alike. And they were successful at whatever they set their minds to do.

lol, wow, so ignorant and frankly spookily weird. Judeo-Christian refers simply to the common values shared in the old testament; the foundation of both religions.

What an odd fellow you must be...

I say America is the 4th greatest in (known) history.

1. The Vatican Empire (probably includes both the EU and America)

2. Roman Empire. This is the physical manifestation of the Vatican Empire from when it was a governmental power instead of a power behind the scenes like it is today.

3. British Impire was huge and if they had the technology we have today, they would easily rule the whole world.

4. America. Is the presiding empire during the great technilogical revolution that transformed our lives in the 20th Century giving birth to the Information Age and the current Digital Age.

I am tired of attacks against Christians because of what Israel does or bcause of the 'stoning; raping and killing' that are abundant in the Old Testament.

It seems to me like Christians are being made the scape goat for everyone elses problems.

Blind guide

Sorry, but I don't see "Jews" raping, stoning, or enslaving anyone. The Zionist agenda being a separate and interesting topic of course, but not suited for the simple minded.

Bash "religion" all you like but look around and see the results of a world without morality. Morality does not spontaneously appear on it's own so you see religion does have it's merits. Most people will agree the 10 commandments are pretty reasonable rules for society and it was on that basis Western societies were founded. If you know dick about history then you understand ALL the Western nations (Europe/US/Canada) were founded by Christians. You cannot dispose of Christianity without throwing out much of what made the West great.

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Always has.....
Always will....

If we apply the same standards you used to tally items 3 and 4 then indeed America is number 1 hands down. Technology is what transformed humanity like never before. For the past 50,000 years humans were languishing. Sure, progress in medicine and science led to great things but not until the founding of the USA has there ever been such advancement in such a short period.

You are correct. I myself am atheistic, but to deny the necessity of religion is to deny all of the greatest of modern civilization. Thus I don't promote atheism. Atheism can be dangerous especially when 1 billion humans adhere to the "teachings" of a goat fucking "prophet" and another 1 billion adhere to the contradictory teachings of a magic sky wizard.

What are these so called "Christian principles"?

Let us see:

Don't take shit that doesn't belong to you.

Don't murder folks just cuz.

Don't be a ho.

Don't lie.

Work for your bread but one day a week you shouldn't work.

Don't worship cows and shit.

Love folks.


So based on these "Christian principles" let us see what non-christian principles might look like:

Take what you can.

Kill 'em if you can get away with it.

Say whatever is expedient.

Fuck anything that walks, kids be damned.

Worship cows, devils, and allahs.

Hate folks.



Maybe it's just me but one of the above "ideologies" seems a helluva lot more conducive to a functional society.

I think what made America the greatest is the unprecedented liberties that the American people used to enjoy.

Power, glory, and even technological innovations mean nothing without freedom.

----That all persons have a natural and unalienable right, to worship Almighty God, according to the dictates of their own consciences and understandings, as in their opinion shall be regulated by the word of God; and that no person ought to, or of right can be compelled to attend any religious worship, or erect or support any place of worship, or maintain any minister, contrary to the dictates of conscience, nor can any person be justly deprived or abridged of any civil right as a citizen, on account of religious sentiments, or peculiar mode of religious worship; and that no authority can, or ought to be vested in, or assumed by, any power whatever, that shall in any case interfere with, or in any manner control the rights of conscience, in the free exercise of religious worship.-----

This post is the finger pointing to the truth----


Context requires a deeper understanding of the Issues, those Founding Fathers were facing, in order to establish freedom of Conscience. IN order to Preserve said freedoms, from the Powers of the Pope--- NO private Law could be established as Public Law. If this had not been done--- The Pope simply declares, Catholic Law is Supreme on the Land and all "Institutions" of men are inferior to that power. The Pope and his Church were the reason this Nation had to have a "separation" of Church from State.

An American of the United States has the Freedom to exercise his or hers own Conscience--- and conversely, does not have the power of Authority to impose that "Private Conscience" as Public Law; either in Courts, or by Legislation in the States, or the Federal government.

Marxist horseshit was custom tailored to slip below the lines of resistance just like a Trojan horse--- where being an atheist, as opposed to a Deist, was touted as the superior, intellectual path to future utopia.

TO impose ones private "Beliefs" on everyone else violates that principle as enshrouded--- freedom of religion as does its negation. The question of what GOD is has destroyed what God meant to ancient mankind. Secular bias is just as bad as religious bias, when it is being used to HARM,to COERCE and to force people to do or ACT against their own Natural Will and thus, their own Conscience.

I defend the principles involved without agreeing whose version of what constitutes "reality" is factually or even morally correct. Then again, I have deep, insider knowledge from exploring those unknowns many men simply fear to tread---secular or religious--- that's the funny thing. MY observation is that both sides fear the Truth.

Trying to Save man from the Folly of his own fears is one thing--trying to save him from his own evils is quite another. America is losing the battle on both fronts as people today are too fragmented as a society, to stand firm as One Nation by the convictions of their personal conscience. The truth is there to be seen and known, but it is not a fools errand and it is not a game.

A spiritual war came to this planet and sadly enough mankind is but a Pawn in the larger drama. That which was hidden from the mind of Mankind---is the blind-spot his conscience must illuminate with those powers of Kindness, Mercy, Compassion and Forgiveness. Without these powers of the Heart--- mankind is doomed to a life of futility and suffering at the hands of masters far removed from his ordinary, mundane life.