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Citadel Moon
(OP) User ID: 59848368 United States 04/08/2015 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Americans are the new Indian---Russell Means breaks it all down--MOST important video you'll ever watch. Not to be a dick, but perhaps moving American borders back to their biblical geography is the karma country earns for demanding that Israel be moved closer and closer to its biblical borders and fuck whoever's in the way. Quoting: Whore of Babylon Or perhaps it has more to do with wiping out millions to colonize their land and call it your own. Either way, the Universe abhors hypocrisy and what goes around comes around. American Indians predate "biblical" borders as residents by 57,500 years. I know they were far before Israel was ever thought of. I just used that as a reference point, as nobody around here seems to think that restoring Israel to biblical borders is ludicrous. I figured they'd be on board with some relocation and Palestinian-style concentration camps in the US, too. You know, just because restoring people to their biblical geography is the RIGHT thing to do. As far as most of these people are concerned, there was NOTHING 57,000 years ago - the Earth and the cosmos are all much younger than that, says the bible. So talking to them about things that predate biblical tenants gets you labeled a heathen savage. Much like the Native Americans whose land it was okay to steal (I mean it happened so FAR in the past - how is it OUR fault) as opposed to the 'Israelis' who are somehow owed a return of their biblical lands because someone's holy book (mostly written and translated by the same Hebrews) says so. I'm just appreciating good irony. I see what you meant now. You're raging against christians for bringing "civilization" to the West, in the same way the newly formed Israel was meant to bring "Gods Holy People" back to Palestine. Only, this thread isn't about Palestine, Israel, or christianity. It's about the peoples' history of America. All your ebolas are belong to us. |
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BiGGEsmalls
User ID: 34960845 United States 04/08/2015 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Americans are the new Indian---Russell Means breaks it all down--MOST important video you'll ever watch. I know native americans who have their own reservations with casinos, cheaper nicotine products, and even an outlet mall..I do not have any of those...So how are we the "new native americans?" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61604631 Your question answers your question. You are the new Indian because you do not have those things and do not benefit from those things but rather only contribute to your own oppression by buying shit from them. Considering you are the new indian, I feel the term used for Indians, in the not so distant past, would be fitting for white people, SAVAGES. Regardless of what and who you are, I still wish the best for you buddy. Last Edited by BiGGEsmalls on 04/08/2015 10:19 PM BiGGEsmalls |
DawaSatso
User ID: 68860800 United States 04/08/2015 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Americans are the new Indian---Russell Means breaks it all down--MOST important video you'll ever watch. Not to be a dick, but perhaps moving American borders back to their biblical geography is the karma country earns for demanding that Israel be moved closer and closer to its biblical borders and fuck whoever's in the way. Quoting: Whore of Babylon Or perhaps it has more to do with wiping out millions to colonize their land and call it your own. Either way, the Universe abhors hypocrisy and what goes around comes around. American Indians predate "biblical" borders as residents by 57,500 years. I know they were far before Israel was ever thought of. I just used that as a reference point, as nobody around here seems to think that restoring Israel to biblical borders is ludicrous. I figured they'd be on board with some relocation and Palestinian-style concentration camps in the US, too. You know, just because restoring people to their biblical geography is the RIGHT thing to do. As far as most of these people are concerned, there was NOTHING 57,000 years ago - the Earth and the cosmos are all much younger than that, says the bible. So talking to them about things that predate biblical tenants gets you labeled a heathen savage. Much like the Native Americans whose land it was okay to steal (I mean it happened so FAR in the past - how is it OUR fault) as opposed to the 'Israelis' who are somehow owed a return of their biblical lands because someone's holy book (mostly written and translated by the same Hebrews) says so. I'm just appreciating good irony. Yeah I know going back ad infinitum to original tenancy is not exactly plausible, yet in the case of 1949 Israel very different story because it was England who divvied up the land and things got immediately violent non-stop thereafter. I'd call American Indians more kosher with their 60,000 years of reverent cultural sterwardship than 65 years of a badly handled idea. Definitely with you in terms of who to respect. |
Citadel Moon
(OP) User ID: 59848368 United States 04/08/2015 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Americans are the new Indian---Russell Means breaks it all down--MOST important video you'll ever watch. I know native americans who have their own reservations with casinos, cheaper nicotine products, and even an outlet mall..I do not have any of those...So how are we the "new native americans?" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61604631 Maybe because we're about to be reduced in population by 95%? That won't happen via the hands of our oppressors. They need us. We legitimize their power, and without us they would have none. To make a comparison--would a wealthy slave-owner murder 95% of his slaves? And if the owner did murder 95% of his human commodity--he would be losing 95% of his wealth. A better way to pull off a reduction in population would be to target women and sterilize them--make them pay to have a baby (or pay for contraceptives to prevent it). And make bearing children a marketable commodity--hence in vitro fertilization, hormone therapy, birth control etc. To say nothing of things like swings, bouncers, walkers, high-chairs, car seats, etc. It would be one thing if our way of life was like the indigenous native Americans-completely natural-that would be a threat to the power structure. We would be reduced by 95%--like the native Americans were. But we're sheeple--living a life devoid of natural law, and entirely dependent upon artificial (marketable) systems of living. This is why the target of colonialists has always been the indigenous peoples of the world. Their way of life mandates tribal governance--something that big government, and the scientific oligarchy despises. All your ebolas are belong to us. |
DawaSatso
User ID: 68860800 United States 04/08/2015 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Americans are the new Indian---Russell Means breaks it all down--MOST important video you'll ever watch. try finding and then reading the accounts of people captured, tortured and murdered by Indians. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68858994 YOU'VE NEVER READ ANYTHING LIKE IT. LOL! Seriously people defending their native land and people from genocide should sit with their hands folded and just let it happen. Anecdotal accounts, weighty indeed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68846223 United States 04/08/2015 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Americans are the new Indian---Russell Means breaks it all down--MOST important video you'll ever watch. Hey boyo from brittin, I grew up in the continental USA and never wished ill on anybody, nver thought I was above anybody else, am aware of the hurt and need for love in the world. you're not talking about me, are you? Ah mean, BOllacks, ?,DUDE |
Whore of Babylon
User ID: 68864377 United States 04/08/2015 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Americans are the new Indian---Russell Means breaks it all down--MOST important video you'll ever watch. Not to be a dick, but perhaps moving American borders back to their biblical geography is the karma country earns for demanding that Israel be moved closer and closer to its biblical borders and fuck whoever's in the way. Quoting: Whore of Babylon Or perhaps it has more to do with wiping out millions to colonize their land and call it your own. Either way, the Universe abhors hypocrisy and what goes around comes around. American Indians predate "biblical" borders as residents by 57,500 years. I know they were far before Israel was ever thought of. I just used that as a reference point, as nobody around here seems to think that restoring Israel to biblical borders is ludicrous. I figured they'd be on board with some relocation and Palestinian-style concentration camps in the US, too. You know, just because restoring people to their biblical geography is the RIGHT thing to do. As far as most of these people are concerned, there was NOTHING 57,000 years ago - the Earth and the cosmos are all much younger than that, says the bible. So talking to them about things that predate biblical tenants gets you labeled a heathen savage. Much like the Native Americans whose land it was okay to steal (I mean it happened so FAR in the past - how is it OUR fault) as opposed to the 'Israelis' who are somehow owed a return of their biblical lands because someone's holy book (mostly written and translated by the same Hebrews) says so. I'm just appreciating good irony. I see what you meant now. You're raging against christians for bringing "civilization" to the West, in the same way the newly formed Israel was meant to bring "Gods Holy People" back to Palestine. Only, this thread isn't about Palestine, Israel, or christianity. It's about the peoples' history of America. Fair enough, but the way our species treats what it considers to be the 'least' among us is what sets the standard for how any individual our culture can be treated with impunity. These issues are not separate, they are totally interconnected and form a pattern of behavior from beginning to end. However, I will keep the talk off of your thread because I like and respect you and had no intention of causing offense to you as the OP Last Edited by Don@ld Trump on 04/08/2015 10:56 PM |
CriticalMass14
User ID: 68749142 United States 04/08/2015 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Americans are the new Indian---Russell Means breaks it all down--MOST important video you'll ever watch. American Patriots need to band together. I just bought plenty of equipment for when the power grid goes down. Something bad is coming and it's coming in 2016 right around the time of the election. Obama the traitor to America wants to enact Martial law and suspend the elections so he gets another 4 years. Plus during Martial Law all Constitutional rights are suspended. Meaning, citizen's have no more rights. Patented Inventor |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68858994 United States 04/08/2015 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Americans are the new Indian---Russell Means breaks it all down--MOST important video you'll ever watch. try finding and then reading the accounts of people captured, tortured and murdered by Indians. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68858994 YOU'VE NEVER READ ANYTHING LIKE IT. LOL! Seriously people defending their native land and people from genocide should sit with their hands folded and just let it happen. Anecdotal accounts, weighty indeed. For sure, you couldn't handle it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68858994 United States 04/08/2015 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Americans are the new Indian---Russell Means breaks it all down--MOST important video you'll ever watch. Do you think things would have gone much differently and much better for the beloved human saints and angels Native American Indians had the Russians and the Chinese managed to send many more people earlier and faster from the other side? Think about it anyway... since you never have... |
Citadel Moon
(OP) User ID: 59848368 United States 04/08/2015 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Americans are the new Indian---Russell Means breaks it all down--MOST important video you'll ever watch. I know they were far before Israel was ever thought of. I just used that as a reference point, as nobody around here seems to think that restoring Israel to biblical borders is ludicrous. I figured they'd be on board with some relocation and Palestinian-style concentration camps in the US, too. You know, just because restoring people to their biblical geography is the RIGHT thing to do. As far as most of these people are concerned, there was NOTHING 57,000 years ago - the Earth and the cosmos are all much younger than that, says the bible. So talking to them about things that predate biblical tenants gets you labeled a heathen savage. Much like the Native Americans whose land it was okay to steal (I mean it happened so FAR in the past - how is it OUR fault) as opposed to the 'Israelis' who are somehow owed a return of their biblical lands because someone's holy book (mostly written and translated by the same Hebrews) says so. I'm just appreciating good irony. I see what you meant now. You're raging against christians for bringing "civilization" to the West, in the same way the newly formed Israel was meant to bring "Gods Holy People" back to Palestine. Only, this thread isn't about Palestine, Israel, or christianity. It's about the peoples' history of America. Fair enough, but the way our species treats what it considers to be the 'least' among us is what sets the standard for how any individual our culture can be treated with impunity. These issues are not separate, they are totally interconnected and form a pattern of behavior from beginning to end. I agree that they are not necessarily separate issues, and that there is a pattern. The pattern shows clearly that indigenous peoples are being wiped out for what they know, because what they know dictates who they are, and how they live. It is a war against natural people, living only by natural law. To that end, it is a war for the identity of humanity. Patriarchy tells us that we are not animals, but above them. It tells us man is above nature, and that above man is a fatherly God who is our teacher. A teacher that is completely beyond our reach. Whereas natural law tells us that we are children, the earth is our nurturing Mother, and nature is our only teacher. Which adheres more to a localized style of self-governance? All your ebolas are belong to us. |
Whore of Babylon
User ID: 68864377 United States 04/08/2015 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Americans are the new Indian---Russell Means breaks it all down--MOST important video you'll ever watch. ... Quoting: Whore of Babylon I know they were far before Israel was ever thought of. I just used that as a reference point, as nobody around here seems to think that restoring Israel to biblical borders is ludicrous. I figured they'd be on board with some relocation and Palestinian-style concentration camps in the US, too. You know, just because restoring people to their biblical geography is the RIGHT thing to do. As far as most of these people are concerned, there was NOTHING 57,000 years ago - the Earth and the cosmos are all much younger than that, says the bible. So talking to them about things that predate biblical tenants gets you labeled a heathen savage. Much like the Native Americans whose land it was okay to steal (I mean it happened so FAR in the past - how is it OUR fault) as opposed to the 'Israelis' who are somehow owed a return of their biblical lands because someone's holy book (mostly written and translated by the same Hebrews) says so. I'm just appreciating good irony. I see what you meant now. You're raging against christians for bringing "civilization" to the West, in the same way the newly formed Israel was meant to bring "Gods Holy People" back to Palestine. Only, this thread isn't about Palestine, Israel, or christianity. It's about the peoples' history of America. Fair enough, but the way our species treats what it considers to be the 'least' among us is what sets the standard for how any individual our culture can be treated with impunity. These issues are not separate, they are totally interconnected and form a pattern of behavior from beginning to end. I agree that they are not necessarily separate issues, and that there is a pattern. The pattern shows clearly that indigenous peoples are being wiped out for what they know, because what they know dictates who they are, and how they live. It is a war against natural people, living only by natural law. To that end, it is a war for the identity of humanity. Patriarchy tells us that we are not animals, but above them. It tells us man is above nature, and that above man is a fatherly God who is our teacher. A teacher that is completely beyond our reach. Whereas natural law tells us that we are children, the earth is our nurturing Mother, and nature is our only teacher. Which adheres more to a localized style of self-governance? I totally agree and just posted on another thread to that effect. Indeed, I just edited my post you just quoted to add I'd keep this ideology OFF of your thread. I am very 'pagan' in my beliefs and I think it is the modern monotheistic religions and their central ideologies that man is above and apart from the natural world are the primary reason there is so much disharmony in our current situation. I mean, what self-respecting Earth worshiper would constantly rape her for the oil held below her surface only to use that oil to destroy everything above her surface? Or would kill off every living thing in sight and consider it collateral damage unrelated to their self? I just got a karma vote indicating mistakenly that I have a 'nagger nose' - it's actually a Cherokee nose ;) Last Edited by Don@ld Trump on 04/08/2015 11:01 PM |
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Cheyenne
User ID: 57381920 United States 04/08/2015 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Americans are the new Indian---Russell Means breaks it all down--MOST important video you'll ever watch. American Patriots need to band together. I just bought plenty of equipment for when the power grid goes down. Something bad is coming and it's coming in 2016 right around the time of the election. Obama the traitor to America wants to enact Martial law and suspend the elections so he gets another 4 years. Plus during Martial Law all Constitutional rights are suspended. Meaning, citizen's have no more rights. Quoting: CriticalMass14 We're the Last of the BOHICANS! [link to jpfo.org] 100% Natural Unvaxxed Human Being |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68551390 Mexico 04/08/2015 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Americans are the new Indian---Russell Means breaks it all down--MOST important video you'll ever watch. The attack on the American people by the government is simply a continuation of the attack on native Americans--but we are the new natives of America. This man has moved beyond and made his journey into the spirit world--but years ago he explained the tactics, the mechanics, and methods of how our government commits atrocities on free people. Your cities are reservations. Your children are attending convert schools that dumb them down. Your food source has been outsourced, depleted, and modified beyond all nutritional value. You are a victim of medicinal (pharmaceutical) eugenics. Russell means has been saying this for ages---his message is for ALL Native Americans--and all people born naturally in the United States. He has been trying to warn us for decades--the US government is doing to us exactly what was done to native Americans sequestered onto reservations (internment camps)for decades. Don't get it twisted----local governance, local economics, local control of food sources, and local control of transportation and travel is the only way to live freely as a people. All of our local control is under attack by the U.S. government. No one knows this better than Russell--he witnessed it his entire life, and FOUGHT back by starting the American Indian Movement (AIM). But at the end of the day--Russel knew that this wasn't just a battle for the Lakota Sioux or indigenous natives--it is a battle for every American to fight for the sake of our children and way of life. Every free-thinking, freedom-forward American is destined to become a POW---that is the path we are on now. And every native on every reservation is a POW. Your FEMA camps are the new reservation. Your government is at war with YOU. You are the new POW. I showed it once and since I do not show an american flag, I was unwelcomed. Needless to say, this is a jewel. US is not what once was... |
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