I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? | |
Knightstar4
User ID: 68899236 Australia 04/12/2015 12:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? getting sick of skeptics treating it like some sort of game. If you don't believe what Jesus did. You haven't got the grace to understand it's true. For some people it's obvious. If you took the effort to be honest and actually wanted to know, it would be obvious to you to. Hail Jesus Christ |
Narcissistic
(OP) User ID: 62912967 United States 04/12/2015 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? getting sick of skeptics treating it like some sort of game. Quoting: Knightstar4 If you don't believe what Jesus did. You haven't got the grace to understand it's true. For some people it's obvious. If you took the effort to be honest and actually wanted to know, it would be obvious to you to. Sorry... was just... asking... |
bigD111
User ID: 65945302 United States 04/12/2015 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? You don't have to belong to a church, which is religion, just be a Christian until you can feel where you might want to belong. The bible says to come out of her my people, which I always thought meant to come out of organized religion. Man always screws it up. deplorably republican |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65499078 United States 04/12/2015 12:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? If you really want to know, you'll find out. Just open a Bible and read. If you aren't serious about it, you'll get what you put into it. If you legitimately want to know though, it will come when you start asking for knowledge and understanding and seek it diligently. Be lead by Almighty God and read. Then consider, then read more. Then consider and read more. It is almost akin to watering a plant; don't drown yourself in knowledge, take it slowly. The understanding you have in the beginning will differ greatly over time, and be prepared for when the road becomes rocky. It isn't paved every step of the way. Don't let a preacher or someone with your wallet in mind teach you. There is only one teacher. |
Narcissistic
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Narcissistic
(OP) User ID: 62912967 United States 04/12/2015 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? If you really want to know, you'll find out. Quoting: Occasionally Swears Just open a Bible and read. If you aren't serious about it, you'll get what you put into it. If you legitimately want to know though, it will come when you start asking for knowledge and understanding and seek it diligently. Be lead by Almighty God and read. Then consider, then read more. Then consider and read more. It is almost akin to watering a plant; don't drown yourself in knowledge, take it slowly. The understanding you have in the beginning will differ greatly over time, and be prepared for when the road becomes rocky. It isn't paved every step of the way. It's almost as if I'm afraid to say the word "Jesus" I'll say "The Universe did this for me..." or "Thanks to Karma, I got this..." etc etc It's like GOD is OKAY to say but not Jesus Christ. Just curious. I do have a bible. Heck, there is Google with everything. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22324220 United States 04/12/2015 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? I was in Christianity for my whole life and even as a child was very confused by all the obvious non-biblical traditions. I married a messianic and now we keep the 7th day sabbath. Instead of communion we have kiddush together at home. You can be a follower of Yeshua and not be in Christianity. Set aside 24 hours next Shabbat ( Friday sundown until Saturday sundown) have the bread and wine and spend the time with Him on His Day. This is the marriage. He knows those who are toward him. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65499078 United States 04/12/2015 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? If you really want to know, you'll find out. Quoting: Occasionally Swears Just open a Bible and read. If you aren't serious about it, you'll get what you put into it. If you legitimately want to know though, it will come when you start asking for knowledge and understanding and seek it diligently. Be lead by Almighty God and read. Then consider, then read more. Then consider and read more. It is almost akin to watering a plant; don't drown yourself in knowledge, take it slowly. The understanding you have in the beginning will differ greatly over time, and be prepared for when the road becomes rocky. It isn't paved every step of the way. It's almost as if I'm afraid to say the word "Jesus" I'll say "The Universe did this for me..." or "Thanks to Karma, I got this..." etc etc It's like GOD is OKAY to say but not Jesus Christ. Just curious. I do have a bible. Heck, there is Google with everything. Jesus Iesous Horus Krishna There's a reason you don't want to say it-- it's pagan. YHWH is Almighty God and Yahshua bin Yoseph is the Messiah. Yahshua is not Jesus, though many have replaced his name. Beware the Catholic Church's many false doctrines. Beware the doctrines of man that corrupt and pervert. |
Knightstar4
User ID: 68899236 Australia 04/12/2015 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? Jesus walked on water, turned water to wine, healed people of disease, raised someone from the dead. got raised from being dead himself. No-one else in history has done it and his entire life was predicted before he was born. If you can't admit from all that ok he was the son of God, then you are lost. everyone witnessed it, wrote about it. It's history. Hail Jesus Christ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68680286 United States 04/12/2015 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? IS there more to it? Yes their is. But everyone starts with a single first step. <<<<See my user name? That's your first step. If you do not extend...If you do not open the door and take that first huge leap of faith you will stay exactly as you are today. You have doubts and questions and issues. So have we all at times. That is when we reason together and pray together. The core of it all is simple enough that a child can get it. It is our adult logical based issues our minds that become demons that tear apart the foundation of faith. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59569017 Canada 04/12/2015 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? now why would you want to do that? and which jesus? the jesus of the bible the catholic church organized, manipulated and decided what was fit for worship? or the gnostic jesus found in texts like the gospel of thomas who described a more pantheist type of god, where god is literally everywhere and in everything, including yourself. many writings of the gnostic gospels are earlier than the new testament gospels. i believe the biggest secret is that you are god. he said it himself, did i not tell you that you are gods? the kingdom of god is within you? Gospel of Thomas 7 Jesus said, “I am the light that is over all things. I am all: from me all came forth, and to me all attained. Split a piece of wood; I am there. Lift up the stone, and you will find me there.” i believe the real jesus was about gnosis, inner knowledge and discovery. growing to heaven not going to heaven. becoming your higher self unabstructed and unencumbered by sin, yours and others. innocent and childlike like before you knew the harsh and evil ways of the world. wasnt life grand then? that is what i think we are to work towards. i dont believe jesus was the blood sacrifice to an angry jealous god who is appeased at the spilling of blood to remiss sins with a vain and repetitious prayer. i do believe the jews who wrote the bible assumed and misinterpreted things and superimposed their subjective religion onto christs teachings though. and that is where this idea of a blood sacrificial offering to remiss sins came from since that was a major practice of the jews. to kill cattle and goats to remiss sins. |
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bigD111
User ID: 65945302 United States 04/12/2015 12:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? IS there more to it? Yes their is. But everyone starts with a single first step. Quoting: ByFaithAlone <<<<See my user name? That's your first step. If you do not extend...If you do not open the door and take that first huge leap of faith you will stay exactly as you are today. You have doubts and questions and issues. So have we all at times. That is when we reason together and pray together. The core of it all is simple enough that a child can get it. It is our adult logical based issues our minds that become demons that tear apart the foundation of faith. Yes!!!!!!!!!!! Go forward in faith! Abraham was chosen because he had faith in God. Simple as that! deplorably republican |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68894459 United States 04/12/2015 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? I really do. Next to me reads Quoting: Narcissistic God, Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change the courage to change the things i can and the wisdom to know the difference. Do I just say it out loud? "I accept you Jesus Christ as my lord and savior..." Or is there more to it? I mean - you know the first Christian Church was built on the temple of Aphrodite. Easter is the First Sunday after the first full moon after the Spring Equinox... So many things I fight in my mind. Well seeing as the bible is no better then a childrens bed time novel at providing proof of what it presents i don't know if it's the right one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64854589 United States 04/12/2015 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? Jesus walked on water, turned water to wine, healed people of disease, raised someone from the dead. got raised from being dead himself. No-one else in history has done it and his entire life was predicted before he was born. If you can't admit from all that ok he was the son of God, then you are lost. everyone witnessed it, wrote about it. It's history. At the same time we have a book that was written by men. I am not doubting on the bibles authenticity but I will not be so gullible to think that its writers had mans best intentions in mind. And the new testament is a contradiction in it itself. It was written by man once again and yet the book itself tells us over and over not to trust in men. How can a book that was written many decades if not hundreds of years after the events took place be taken as literal fact. It all depends on how you look at it, but don't use that pushy attitude of "how can you be so blind as not to believe" on someone looking for the light. No matter what you think you are doing it pushes people away. |
Hidig
User ID: 68899744 United States 04/12/2015 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? "I mean - you know the first Christian Church was built on the temple of Aphrodite. Easter is the First Sunday after the first full moon after the Spring Equinox... So many things I fight in my mind." Then don't. You've already got an argument against it so why poison the rest of us who work daily to understand it? |
Knightstar4
User ID: 68899236 Australia 04/12/2015 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? It's almost as if I'm afraid to say the word "Jesus" Quoting: Narcissistic I'll say "The Universe did this for me..." or "Thanks to Karma, I got this..." etc etc It's like GOD is OKAY to say but not Jesus Christ. That's offensive. you don't know any better. You don't mean to be offensive maybe. Hail Jesus Christ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68888873 Canada 04/12/2015 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65499078 United States 04/12/2015 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? It's almost as if I'm afraid to say the word "Jesus" Quoting: Narcissistic I'll say "The Universe did this for me..." or "Thanks to Karma, I got this..." etc etc It's like GOD is OKAY to say but not Jesus Christ. That's offensive. you don't know any better. You don't mean to be offensive maybe. But I think they're actually trying to discern some information. When you have nothing to start with, you don't know where to begin. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64854589 United States 04/12/2015 01:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? "I mean - you know the first Christian Church was built on the temple of Aphrodite. Easter is the First Sunday after the first full moon after the Spring Equinox... Quoting: Hidig So many things I fight in my mind." Then don't. You've already got an argument against it so why poison the rest of us who work daily to understand it? The truth shall set you free. The things he speaks of are true. All Christians sprang from the Roman Catholic Church. It was THE original church so to speak. There may have been christians running around meeting in small groups, but until the Romans adopted it as their new faith, the Christians where none to well liked. Many of the so called Christians holidays fall on pagan holidays as well and that is no freaking accident. No matter what anyone wants to believe there is the truth, and there is not. There is no in between. Maybe we get an answer when we die. If we do. I do not think it will be what anyone here in this life is expecting. |
Knightstar4
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vassago1
User ID: 64854589 United States 04/12/2015 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? ofcourse Jesus wasn't a christian cause he started Christianity. that's as dumb as saying just remember hitler wasn't a nazi. No at all. Man started Christianity. Jesus basically taught us how to treat each other with respect and dignity. Don't confuse man with Christ. edit- He also taught us he was the way, but I think we missed what he was trying to say. Last Edited by HowlinMadMurphy on 04/12/2015 01:08 AM -Fig nuts |
vassago1
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vassago1
User ID: 64854589 United States 04/12/2015 01:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? Jesus was teaching so much more. Most Christians follow a watered down version the unholy Roman empire created. When he returns his biggest threat will come from self righteous Christians who fail to realise Rome fooled them for 2000 years Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68888873 The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing man that Rome had the answers. Bwaa ha ha ah ah ha ha ahhhh yeah the speaker of lies fooled us all...imagine that. -Fig nuts |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68894459 United States 04/12/2015 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? It takes humility to come to Jesus op but just know that Jesus is waiting for you to come to Him. He loves you and is waiting to set you free when you come to Him Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68728437 I thought Jesus was everywhere? Why do you need to come to him? Does jesus love to play mind games on his creation? Is it a sick sense of humour or just because he loves us? I think you are reading too much into that bible of yours. There is a god but he doesn't read fairytales like the bible. |
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Knightstar4
User ID: 68899236 Australia 04/12/2015 01:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I want to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior - yet how do I know this is "right" religion? Jesus walked on water, turned water to wine, healed people of disease, raised someone from the dead. got raised from being dead himself. No-one else in history has done it and his entire life was predicted before he was born. If you can't admit from all that ok he was the son of God, then you are lost. everyone witnessed it, wrote about it. It's history. At the same time we have a book that was written by men. I am not doubting on the bibles authenticity but I will not be so gullible to think that its writers had mans best intentions in mind. And the new testament is a contradiction in it itself. It was written by man once again and yet the book itself tells us over and over not to trust in men. How can a book that was written many decades if not hundreds of years after the events took place be taken as literal fact. It all depends on how you look at it, but don't use that pushy attitude of "how can you be so blind as not to believe" on someone looking for the light. No matter what you think you are doing it pushes people away. The people who helped contribute to the bible were prophets. It's not like writing 50 shades of grey. You have to have certain qualifications to write as a messenger of God. If you read what was written it's not any old rubbish. You have to appreciate the literature before you judge it. It's not like Obama making a speech you can't just lie and lie and lie without backing yourself up. great portion of the bible is written prophecy and a lot of it being fulfilled. You can't do that with harry potter. It's very different to a fictional book. Real people. Real history. Things that contain knowledge and advice on the truth. Hail Jesus Christ |