This picture was taken days before the OKC bombing, it was an aerial photo snapped above camp Gruber in Oklahoma.

Then all the cameras were shut off.

Total hoax.

The truck could not have done that damage .

In early April 1995 a Ryder truck identical to the one used in the bombing was filmed by a pilot during an overflight of of an area near Camp Gruber-Braggs, Oklahoma. A June 17th, 1997 Washington Post article authenticates the photos as being exactly what they appear to be, photos of a Ryder truck in a clandestine base at Camp Gruber-Braggs. Why were the military in possession of a Ryder truck housed in a remote clandestine army base days before the Alfred P. Murrah bombing?

Yes, this picture is certainly weird. That is one thing you can say about it. I realize others have seen this before, but this is new to me. Nausea inducing, hope inducing, vindicating are also things I could say about this photo.

Does anyone know the provenance of this photo? Is the date verified?

As to your question to OP, I sense a setup. OP never mentioned Mcveigh, he simply posted pictures from a military base taken days before the bombing. A picture that shows a compound walled off from view, inside of which sit, among other things, a Ryder truck matching the description of the alleged source of the explosion.

That certainly seems worthy of investigation to me.

Why would you expect OP to be able to speak as to Mcveigh's motives?


Call what bluff? They're pictures.


Good for you! Confirm that theory based on an AC's lack of response to your questions. Way to logic!


Well, I can't answer for OP, mainly because I have no clue to the answers. Nor do I understand how knowing those answers would allow OP to confirm or disprove your Single Bomber theory.

Perhaps you will explain how they relate later.


Or perhaps you will reveal yourself to be an uncouth lout.


Oh, here we go. Secret knowledge. Yet you're asking OP to disprove your theory. Something you "know" they can't do, because they don't know the "real on the ground" story.


Convince you of what? Weren't you alluding to the fact that you know the "real on the ground story"? Because you're not a member of "the public"?


Well make up your mind, are a Single Bomber theorist, or not?

While we're on the subject though, exactly what was the motive of that motivated vet?


Wait...what!? Why would we crap our pants? You just got done telling us this was just a motivated vet and a few flunkies. Beyond the horror of the event itself, what more could be crap-worthy and still be what you're claiming.


Well, let's see. Uses ultimatums and straw-man arguments, is rude, illogical, claims insider knowledge, and contradicts themselves about the nature of the event.

Walks, quacks, and smells pretty ducky to me.


It seems to matter a lot to YOU.


Clearly you're not a truther, you've dropped several unconscious clues that you see yourself as superior, and privileged to be in on "the secret", while demonstrating no intention of sharing your "specialized knowledge".

While should anyone give you another second of their time?

aHEMagain

ps: why weren't congressional hearings held about these photos asking for an explanation from the military, and perhaps even INVESTIGATING?

Last Edited by aHEMagain^2 on 04/21/2015 07:55 AM

Hmmmmm.

Now that I think about it.... it seems to me that they
closed several local WALMART stores in the weeks leading
up to the attack.

I call photoshop on the Ryder truck. It's missing appropriate shading relative to the other objects - before and after it - in their little bins.

No way that truck bomb did the damage that building sustained.

Are you kidding?

Thanks for pointing that out. I agree with you, that calls the validity of the pictures into question.

EDIT: Sorry, Little Red Hen, I missed your post first time through, saying basically this same thing.

The only possible explanation that I can think of is the different perspective of the two shots could be creating the illusion of a shortened compound. It may have been a square compound, and thus both pictures seem distorted by perspective out of true.

Which just reinforces why I was wondering about the provenance of the photos.

aHEMagain

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Total Shill Destruction !!

Question:

How would a plane be allowed to fly over military base? Isn't that restricted air space?

Exactly.
Even if he did claim he was a patsy (and I am sure he was)
Main stream media would never back his story.

They made it clear as to what happens if the patsy speaks.

Lee Harvey Oswald.

McVeigh was still active Military working with a unit to root out "Domestic Terrorists".
He was betrayed.
You only hear what the Gov/Media want you to hear.

What would prompt anyone to over fly a base let alone take this picture?

The bombing hadn't occurred yet if tts to be believed.

Therefore, no Ryder truck would have arosed suspicion, on a base or not.

How do you know McVeigh died? Quick execution like that, you know only because they told you so...

I don't see that, could you be more specific? The angles of light and shadow seem right to me.

Also, if it's photoshopped, there should be an original out there, as the picture was shot on film. There is a long scratch on the negative of the first photo, running from the bottom right up towards the Ryder truck, then a second, shorter scratch slightly offset from the first.

I'll see if I can dig up the article about the photo another AC mentioned upthread.

aHEMagain

Its very common. I work in truck rental. I deliver shit on bases all the time. Its considerably more quiet this year than last year on the gulf coast.

What dates were 1) the forested and 2) deforested pictures taken?

Depends on the size of the base and the size of the restricted airspace. You're not going to be able to fly over a base like Fort Bragg, NC, but what is shown in the photos doesn't look like much of a base to me. I seriously doubt there is restricted airspace over that patch of dirt.

Besides in a lot of MOAs (Military Operations Areas) you could get permission to fly through the airspace. There are a bunch of MOAs in eastern NC.

I recall seeing this photo a few months after the bombing took place. The story that I heard surrounding it was that a sheriff's helicopter was flying around looking for pot growing and they happened to take pictures of suspicious activity. I have no idea if this is true. Just what I was told. Interesting to say the least.

My only question is Why Oklahoma? There were federal buildings closer. The Presidents home state was just as close. Somebody chose Oklahoma for a specific reason and it wasn't just the building style

While should anyone give you another second of their time?

WELL DONE!

Why don't you go all the way back to page one and read, it's all there:)Seriously.

[link to www.moresureword.com]

Governor Frank Keating's brother, Martin Keating, wrote a manuscript in 1991, roughly four years before the OKC bombing. Gov. Frank Keating is a former FBI hot shot. His brother, Martin could not get this work published until after the bombing. This manuscript, now a published book, is titled The Final Jihad. In this book, Keating lays out a story of terrorists, based in OKC, who decide to bomb a federal building. Guess what the name of the one of the key "terrorists" in the book is? Tom McVey. And for the kicker of this fictional work: The terrorists in The Final Jihad are stopped by an Oklahoma highway patrolman for a broken tail light.


What is Mr. Martin Keating's background? In his own words:

[link to www.firstkeating.com]

"Martin Keating is a master storyteller with unique access to government intelligence agencies and clandestine terrorist groups. His brother Frank Keating, currently governor of Oklahoma, is a former FBI agent and assistant secretary of the Treasury who supervised the Secret Service, U.S. Customs, and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. Keating's uncle, Barney Martin was a career intelligence officer who headed the U.S. Navy's worldwide foreign intelligence collection operations and counterintelligence activities.

Introduced to the intelligence community through generations of family involvement, Martin Keating knows intimate details of what the rest of us can only imagine. Armed with firsthand knowledge of explosives and of chemical and biological weapons, Keating accurately reveals what the highest government officials have known, feared, and covered up for much
too long."

[link to www.amazon.com]

The Final Jihad: When the "Best of the Worst" Finally Come for Us Hardcover – June 1, 1996
by Martin Keating (Author)
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ISBN-13: 978-0964704817 ISBN-10: 0964704811 Edition: First Edition

The Final Jihad is a prophetic blueprint, a warning of horrifying upcoming acts of terrorism targeted against the United States. It’s a wake-up call no one should ignore.

The Final Jihad brings readers, for the first time, actual intelligence gathered by espionage operatives worldwide. It has been fashioned into a blockbuster novel by Martin Keating

ok guys, listen.
the photo is not what it claims to be.
it's either faked or from somewhere else.
this is a fact.
why ?

because the Ryder truck used in the bombing was
captured on surveillance camera, and in the actual
truck, the Ryder logo is slanted in the opposite
direction.
Here is the real truck.
[link to law2.umkc.edu]

If you compare to the purported photo, the rear of the
truck in the "base" photo is plainly to the left, and tightly encased in the white barrier.That truck cannot
be the same as captured in the surveillance camera which
McVeigh drove.
[link to www.apfn.net]

Here is some of the lore behind the fake photos, purportedly captured by a member of the Montana Militia.
[link to web.archive.org]

"“Who wanted that building brought down?” asked Lawton. Speculating, he noted that documents and records related to the Clinton Whitewater case and information detailing BATF involvement in the massacre at the Mt. Carmel compound near Waco, Texas in 1993 were stored in that building and were either removed or destroyed."

"...retired USAF Brig. Gen. Ben Partin had reported that the building came down after “explosive devices were wrapped around the columns” of the Murrah building."

[link to www.deepjournal.com]

I agree he is alive, because no other person in history had the death sentence executed that quickly.

mind control.