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This picture was taken days before the OKC bombing, it was an aerial photo snapped above camp Gruber in Oklahoma.

 
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I am going to call your bluff on this one with 2 questions.
and once and for all confirm my theory that he indeed acted alone, or at least he was the bombmaker and emplacer.

1. Tell me about Mcveigh immediately prior.

2 how many lbs of anfo does it take to obliterate a car with a standoff of 5 feet?

if you can answer these two questions, satisfactorily without canned google answers I will revisit the case. If you can't then stfu because you have no knowledge of how explosvies actusally work and have no access to the real on the ground story. which was not released to the public.

convince me with 2 simple answers.
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Mr Computer Know-It-All Alert for a fucking Douche Bag..
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Re: This picture was taken days before the OKC bombing, it was an aerial photo snapped above camp Gruber in Oklahoma.
It is not unusual to see rental vehicles on bases.

however this picture certainly is weird. Specifically the white covers around the tents.

question for you OP. If Mcveigh was a patsy, why didn't he say so?
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How do you know McVeigh died? Quick execution like that, you know only because they told you so...
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This ^^^

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[link to i.imgur.com]

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Whatever that pic is, it kinda makes your skin crawl regardless.
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McVey is alive and well in the witness protection system. A reporter who was at the execution saw his chest continue to rise and fall, ever so slightly, while sitting eye level to his body when the "doctor" pronounced him dead.

Lots of people who worked there asked about the barrels that were sitting next to load bearing beams.

One employee saw people on the roof with blueprints just a week before the explosion.

BIG TIME government false flag
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hesright
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! ! !



Oklahoma City Bombing: All Evidence Point To The U.S. Federal Government


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"An obvious inside job because it had to be to produce so much destruction."
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Video Of FBI Agent With Timothy McVeigh In Van Before OK City Bombing

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Re: This picture was taken days before the OKC bombing, it was an aerial photo snapped above camp Gruber in Oklahoma.
It is not unusual to see rental vehicles on bases.

however this picture certainly is weird. Specifically the white covers around the tents.

question for you OP. If Mcveigh was a patsy, why didn't he say so?
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They threatened to kill his family. And he knew they would.
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Scratchpad 3

My, but these photos have a rich backstory.

When you find out what the OK National Guard confirmed about it though, more interesting questions come up.

Here is the closest I could find to the actual Washington Post article.
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posted on November 22, 2002 at 12:08:07 PST by honway

06/14/1997

Washington Post Staff Writer, Richard Leiby
Page A8

"Other Web sites carry photos of a Ryder truck parked at a military installation in Oklahoma, where conspiracy-minded investigators contend the fertilizer bomb was assembled. The Oklahoma National Guard confirmed Friday that the aerial photos were indeed taken above Camp Gruber in the fall of 1994 and said the classified project involved weapons sensors and was overseen by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. The National Guard's statement said the truck 'had no association whatsoever with the tragedy at the Alfred P. Murrah Building."

posted on November 22, 2002 at 12:10:46 PST by honway
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The Oklahoma National Guard confirmed Friday that the aerial photos were indeed taken above Camp Gruber in the fall of 1994 and said the classified project involved weapons sensors and was overseen by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. (view of area on Central Europe Road discussed in Washington Post article)
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Then this happened to the pilot who took the pictures.
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NTSB Identification: FTW95LA201
On May 15, 1995, at 1230 central daylight time, a Harding 1500-R-Mini-Max, N366RH, was destroyed following a loss of control during takeoff near Braggs, Oklahoma. The private pilot sustained fatal injuries. The local personal flight was being operated under Title 14 CFR Part 91. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed and a flight plan was not filed.

Witnesses (statements enclosed) reported that at about 1130, the airplane landed on a grass area normally used as a helipad at Camp Gruber (Oklahoma National Guard Training Site). The pilot was a member of the Oklahoma National Guard. Several military personnel talked with the pilot and looked at the airplane. The pilot started the engine, initiated an uphill takeoff roll to the north, and then aborted the takeoff. Several witnesses reported that the airplane didn't have enough speed to takeoff. Subsequently, the pilot reversed the direction of the takeoff and initiated a takeoff to the south in a downhill direction. Witnesses reported that the pilot "forced" the airplane into the air and maneuvered to clear buildings as the airplane climbed "slowly" to 60 to 75 feet. One witness stated that "the aircraft appeared to be lacking power."

Witnesses observed the airplane flying over the barracks and then up and down prior to entering a left descending turn. The wing hit a powerline wire about 20 feet above the ground as the airplane descended uncontrolled, impacted the terrain and separated into numerous pieces. Witnesses further reported that it didn't "appear" that he was having any control problems. Temperature was 83 degrees Fahrenheit with a calculated density altitude of 2,200 feet.

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) inspector reported that the winds were from the south at 3 to 5 knots with a terrain downslope of approximately 10 degrees. Flight control continuity was confirmed, the propeller blades were shattered and the FAA inspector stated that the "aircraft appeared to be producing power on impact." The right wing exhibited physical evidence of a wire strike and one end of the highline cable was pulled loose approximately 20 feet above the ground.
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Autopsy and toxicology were not performed.

The airplane was released by the FAA to the personnel at Camp Gruber, Oklahoma.
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Re: This picture was taken days before the OKC bombing, it was an aerial photo snapped above camp Gruber in Oklahoma.
It is not unusual to see rental vehicles on bases.

however this picture certainly is weird. Specifically the white covers around the tents.

question for you OP. If Mcveigh was a patsy, why didn't he say so?
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The rumors floating around the net back in the 90s was that Mcveigh was an ATF officer. That the whole thing was staged. The rumor also was that the whole "execution" of Mcviegh was fake and that it was all a show so that they could demonize the militias and brand them as terrorists. So Mcveigh is probably still alive somewhere enjoying his millions in pay-off money to be a part of a public spectacle.
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Re: This picture was taken days before the OKC bombing, it was an aerial photo snapped above camp Gruber in Oklahoma.
It is not unusual to see rental vehicles on bases.

however this picture certainly is weird. Specifically the white covers around the tents.

question for you OP. If Mcveigh was a patsy, why didn't he say so?
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Yes, this picture is certainly weird. That is one thing you can say about it. I realize others have seen this before, but this is new to me. Nausea inducing, hope inducing, vindicating are also things I could say about this photo.

Does anyone know the provenance of this photo? Is the date verified?

As to your question to OP, I sense a setup. OP never mentioned Mcveigh, he simply posted pictures from a military base taken days before the bombing. A picture that shows a compound walled off from view, inside of which sit, among other things, a Ryder truck matching the description of the alleged source of the explosion.

That certainly seems worthy of investigation to me.

Why would you expect OP to be able to speak as to Mcveigh's motives?

I am going to call your bluff on this one with 2 questions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64821548

Call what bluff? They're pictures.

and once and for all confirm my theory that he indeed acted alone, or at least he was the bombmaker and emplacer.
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Good for you! Confirm that theory based on an AC's lack of response to your questions. Way to logic!

1. Tell me about Mcveigh immediately prior.

2 how many lbs of anfo does it take to obliterate a car with a standoff of 5 feet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64821548

Well, I can't answer for OP, mainly because I have no clue to the answers. Nor do I understand how knowing those answers would allow OP to confirm or disprove your Single Bomber theory.

Perhaps you will explain how they relate later.

if you can answer these two questions, satisfactorily without canned google answers I will revisit the case. If you can't then stfu because you have
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64821548

Or perhaps you will reveal yourself to be an uncouth lout.

no knowledge of how explosvies actusally work and have no access to the real on the ground story. which was not released to the public.
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Oh, here we go. Secret knowledge. Yet you're asking OP to disprove your theory. Something you "know" they can't do, because they don't know the "real on the ground" story.

convince me with 2 simple answers.
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Convince you of what? Weren't you alluding to the fact that you know the "real on the ground story"? Because you're not a member of "the public"?

like I thought, weak case for OKC being anything beyond what it was. One motivated vet and a few flunkys along for the ride.
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Well make up your mind, are a Single Bomber theorist, or not?

While we're on the subject though, exactly what was the motive of that motivated vet?

Or do you not think one smart, motivated war vet who has taken lives is not smart or cold enough to pull something like this off alone?

If you scaredy cats knew the real details you would crap your pants.
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Wait...what!? Why would we crap our pants? You just got done telling us this was just a motivated vet and a few flunkies. Beyond the horror of the event itself, what more could be crap-worthy and still be what you're claiming.

and......

The Shills show up.
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Well, let's see. Uses ultimatums and straw-man arguments, is rude, illogical, claims insider knowledge, and contradicts themselves about the nature of the event.

Walks, quacks, and smells pretty ducky to me.

yup Im a shill, undercover in Canada, on a long forgotten case on a conspiracy board at 2 am on a tues because it so matters.
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It seems to matter a lot to YOU.

You are probably one of those everything is a fals flag tards too right?
if you are such a truther answer my 2 questions.
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Clearly you're not a truther, you've dropped several unconscious clues that you see yourself as superior, and privileged to be in on "the secret", while demonstrating no intention of sharing your "specialized knowledge".

While should anyone give you another second of their time?

aHEMagain

ps: why weren't congressional hearings held about these photos asking for an explanation from the military, and perhaps even INVESTIGATING?
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knockout clappa

Well done aHEMagain! I think the silence says it all! No paycheck for that scumbag ha!

Side note: Anyone have any good sites for some info on this? I remember being in daycare when it happened and the daycare lady yelling at us to, and I quote, 'SHUTUP! ALL OF YOU!' we all sat down and watch the television after lol angryface
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ok guys, listen.
the photo is not what it claims to be.
it's either faked or from somewhere else.
this is a fact.
why ?

because the Ryder truck used in the bombing was
captured on surveillance camera, and in the actual
truck, the Ryder logo is slanted in the opposite
direction.
Here is the real truck.
[link to law2.umkc.edu]

If you compare to the purported photo, the rear of the
truck in the "base" photo is plainly to the left, and tightly encased in the white barrier.That truck cannot
be the same as captured in the surveillance camera which
McVeigh drove.
[link to www.apfn.net]

Here is some of the lore behind the fake photos, purportedly captured by a member of the Montana Militia.
[link to web.archive.org]
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yes. the photos are completely debunked.
good job.
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If you can find the video called "a Noble Lie", watch it.
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If you can find the video called "a Noble Lie", watch it.
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like I thought, weak case for OKC being anything beyond what it was. One motivated vet and a few flunkys along for the ride.

Or do you not think one smart, motivated war vet who has taken lives is not smart or cold enough to pull something like this off alone?

If you scaredy cats knew the real details you would crap your pants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64821548:MVDontyNjU1XzQ5OTMzNDI2XzRDNTY4RDdB


Don't give me this shit asswipe..you have no clue regarding the lengths the feds went to cover this up. Do a complete investigation about officer Brian Terry and then come back to me punk
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question for you OP. If Mcveigh was a patsy, why didn't he say so?

If some one threatened your family that if you talked they all would die you would not talk either...
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Im not OP, but the answer is the same answer for why mcveigh fired his attorney once that aattorney was gonna lay out a defense of others involved... mcveigh truly believed in the cause and wanted ful credit.

He felt he couldnt start a movement without getting credit.

True Patriot.
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like I thought, weak case for OKC being anything beyond what it was. One motivated vet and a few flunkys along for the ride.

Or do you not think one smart, motivated war vet who has taken lives is not smart or cold enough to pull something like this off alone?

If you scaredy cats knew the real details you would crap your pants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64821548:MVDontyNjU1XzQ5OTMzNDI2XzRDNTY4RDdB


Don't give me this shit asswipe..you have no clue regarding the lengths the feds went to cover this up. Do a complete investigation about officer Brian Terry and then come back to me punk
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this is true, complete coverup

and mcveigh went along with it
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Holy. Shit.
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If you can find the video called "a Noble Lie", watch it.
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This
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McVey is alive and well in the witness protection system. A reporter who was at the execution saw his chest continue to rise and fall, ever so slightly, while sitting eye level to his body when the "doctor" pronounced him dead.

Lots of people who worked there asked about the barrels that were sitting next to load bearing beams.

One employee saw people on the roof with blueprints just a week before the explosion.

BIG TIME government false flag
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THIS
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It is not unusual to see rental vehicles on bases.

however this picture certainly is weird. Specifically the white covers around the tents.

question for you OP. If Mcveigh was a patsy, why didn't he say so?
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He did he told his first 2 lawyers that he was hired undercover to do this by the Govt, and they both quit right away. Plus, The boy from Boston is saying he is innocent and no one is listening to him.
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Don't forget Waco, it is all linked.
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For what purpose? And why is this coming out now... 20 years after the bombing?
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wow I never saw this OH SHIT evidence

this is OH SHITS

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Don't forget Waco, it is all linked.
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For what purpose? And why is this coming out now... 20 years after the bombing?
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Shit..its all forgotten .. Remember janet reno was under probe for Waco..we had there asses on the defensive but they needed a big false flag to claim the anti gov. Zealots were somehow conspiring together.. It was obviously connected to anyone living at the time and able to connect the dots..you had Ron brown, you had chinese paying off Clinton for gov. Secrets , you had octopus..etc
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Such is life in america.
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boom33
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Don't forget Waco, it is all linked.
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For what purpose? And why is this coming out now... 20 years after the bombing?
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Shit..its all forgotten .. Remember janet reno was under probe for Waco..we had there asses on the defensive but they needed a big false flag to claim the anti gov. Zealots were somehow conspiring together.. It was obviously connected to anyone living at the time and able to connect the dots..you had Ron brown, Sonne had chinese paying off Clinton for gov. Secrets , you had octopus..etc
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Sonney bono,was investigating it..then he mysteriously dies
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McVey is alive and well in the witness protection system. A reporter who was at the execution saw his chest continue to rise and fall, ever so slightly, while sitting eye level to his body when the "doctor" pronounced him dead.

Lots of people who worked there asked about the barrels that were sitting next to load bearing beams.

One employee saw people on the roof with blueprints just a week before the explosion.

BIG TIME government false flag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68992584


THIS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68786182


it might be a ff, but that's not what the reporter said at all. as a matter of fact, she got angry when people misrepresented her meaning. what she meant was he's
"still alive" as in terrorism is alive, not him specifically.
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3 pages of nothing about a pic of some tents...

Gotta love GLP.

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Such is life in america.
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wasn't it a Ryder Van that had the explosive in it?
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