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I'm gonna make this short, but I probably need to see a therapist about this. I've looked online but I can't find anything free, and I'm weary of "therapy". I just can't get images out of my mind. It's been about 2 weeks and I've been trying to get beyond it. I'm ok in the daytime, it's just nights like tonight that I can't seem to shake it.
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im here , if you need something hf
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Sorry for your loss. My best friend hung herself so I know what it feels like, you can talk to me.
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Do the questions ever stop? Like I want to know why, I keep replaying his life over and over in my mind, but I don't have enough answers. I keep hearing the screams when they found his body. I keep hearing his last words to me. It's too much. He had the best support group around, we were all there for him and would have moved worlds for him.
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Just talk to the person. Tell them how you feel. They may be listening..my guess they are. Maybe you are to learn a lesson from their actions. Thank them for being your friend. You are never alone. It will be OK.
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if its only been two weeks , then you are still trying to process the experience . as grieving comes in stages it may take awhile . it is important to accept that there is nothing that you could have done to change what happened and that having a sense of guilt will not help you . i dont think you can ever know what really drove them to do what they did , so turning your mind over for reasons is likely to be fruitless . remember the good times and celebrate what you did have with them amongst his acquantances , and know that things will improve with time . sorry if i was being presumptuous hf
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Start here OP, and you'll know that we're eternal.

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Do the questions ever stop? Like I want to know why, I keep replaying his life over and over in my mind, but I don't have enough answers. I keep hearing the screams when they found his body. I keep hearing his last words to me. It's too much. He had the best support group around, we were all there for him and would have moved worlds for him.
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OBAMA AND THE REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS IS WHY
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I'm so sorry for your loss.

Depending on your insurance and income level, there are free county/state/hospital provided therapists, but it may be hard to get into because those services can only handle a limited amount of people, wait lists are common.

Maybe this situation is one where group support therapy could help? There would still be a counselor but with others like you sharing their stories and their pain. Might help you not feel so alone in all this. The process for group is usually a lot quicker and a lot less paperwork. You can call the local hospitals or organizations in the area to help guide you where you might be able to go for help.
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Do the questions ever stop? Like I want to know why, I keep replaying his life over and over in my mind, but I don't have enough answers. I keep hearing the screams when they found his body. I keep hearing his last words to me. It's too much. He had the best support group around, we were all there for him and would have moved worlds for him.
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Well...honestly, I didn't question why. I already know why some people give up on life. If they are having that hard of a time coping they see it as their only option in the moment. My friend was abusing pills and having marriage problems, the combination just put her over the edge.

The problem I had with it was knowing that she probably knew she made a terrible mistake in those final moments but it was too late to change the course of fate. I was more angry at her for doing that to herself, and to her husband, her family and friends.

Their is some guilt involved, too, wondering if you were a good enough friend and why wasn't that enough. It sounds like you were supportive, but sometimes the reason they commit suicide has nothing to do with support or lack of support or the fact you would move worlds for him.
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I'm gonna make this short, but I probably need to see a therapist about this. I've looked online but I can't find anything free, and I'm weary of "therapy". I just can't get images out of my mind. It's been about 2 weeks and I've been trying to get beyond it. I'm ok in the daytime, it's just nights like tonight that I can't seem to shake it.
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OP, how beautiful are you to come here, be so honest and ask for others to help you find a way through this time in your life to find peace.

Well done.hf
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Sorry to hear that :(

What was his story, why did he give up?

Sending you love and hugs

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I'm gonna make this short, but I probably need to see a therapist about this. I've looked online but I can't find anything free, and I'm weary of "therapy". I just can't get images out of my mind. It's been about 2 weeks and I've been trying to get beyond it. I'm ok in the daytime, it's just nights like tonight that I can't seem to shake it.
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I imagine each person's reason is unique but I can
speak about mine. This world is hollow now, and
false. The people they are good but they're not.

there's a lot of dealing in bad faith. People say
things, wanting to believe it themselves, but they're not.

For instance, I recently took a job where I was
promised something. Now, of course, that promise is
being broken. The man who made the promised is still
in denial that he lied to me, because he needs to
believe he's a good person. But he did lie to me.

I've seen a great deal of this for the past several
years. What I know is that for the most part women
and dating suck, it's become more trouble and a bigger
downer than it's worth so I've had no sex for almost
five years now.

My career is over. I'm quite good at what I do but
what's important now is not skill, but being full of
shit and telling people lies (like my boss).

There's not really a great deal I want to do anymore.
And death is inevitable anyway, it's a matter of
timing. I've come to realize that many things I
believed were false. And I see that perhaps the
world was always this way. And that it's unlikely
to change.

The United States I knew is dead and gone, and what
replaced it isn't very attractive. I don't see that
the trend will change direction. I can't retire,
I don't have much interest in people in general
anymore, most are liars, many are desperate, many
are unhappy but put on a positive face and tell
themselves they are something they're not.

There's an inevitability to it, to the greed and
pettiness of the human race.
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Its normal things come up again at night, then your mind is free to roam and not occupied with daytime stuff.

If you need help, there should be psycholgical teams available on the incident. If there was not, you can ask at the police or firefighter station if they can give you the number of a minister. It should be free of charge.
"The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title."

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Do the questions ever stop? Like I want to know why, I keep replaying his life over and over in my mind, but I don't have enough answers. I keep hearing the screams when they found his body. I keep hearing his last words to me. It's too much. He had the best support group around, we were all there for him and would have moved worlds for him.
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People aren't allowed to move on in cases like this unless they make amends for it.

In another story.... My Father died and left everything to the Step Kids. He gave my brother and I nothing. Never gave two shits about us and was a horrible Father.

I believe he has been on the other side trying to make up for that to me.

Think about that.

Don't blame yourself or wonder why. It only keeps him here and he can't move on even if he does make amends.

Forgive him. Tell him you forgive him. Tell him you love him and tell him it's ok to go.

Then he will leave and move on and you will feel relief and you will then begin to heal.

My best friend blew his head off with a shot gun. I walked in 10 minutes after he did it. I was on my way over and didn't get there in time. I blamed myself for years.

It wasn't my fault. I forgave him and he has long since moved on. I sense it.
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Do the questions ever stop? Like I want to know why, I keep replaying his life over and over in my mind, but I don't have enough answers. I keep hearing the screams when they found his body. I keep hearing his last words to me. It's too much. He had the best support group around, we were all there for him and would have moved worlds for him.
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Don't bother asking why, you know why already, it's because the pain inside became no longer worth battling for him. You wondering the exact instance or reason that broke-the-camel's-back so to speak is just dwelling in a very negative place. Obviously he didn't want to think about the depressing moments anymore, the last thing you want to do is spend time remembering him in the context of every possible negative thing he was possibly going through, that will lead to you just thinking of him in the future according to the bad things you are trying to dredge up now that may comfort you as to a logical reason for him doing what he did. You searching for understanding will cloud your mind when you try to have pleasant call-back memories of your friend.

Leave the negative with him in the past, that's where it is now. Try to remember every fun, cool, happy memory of him you can and cling to those as long as you can, sadly even those will fade over time. Best to have 100 good memories and have 50 fade away, rather than 50 good and 50 bad, and eventually you are left with 25 good and 25 bad. Load up on the good stuff. By the way sorry about your loss but for him the pain is gone and that might be a good thing, to say it isn't is sort of selfish.
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Reading the above, it might also help to reconsider your way of thinking about death. We are rpogrammed its bad and hurtful, but actually almost all the people who had a NDE are deeply saddened they have been brought back here. Some actually commit sucide later, cause they found death so much better than life. There was an article on the telegraph a while back iirc. I will try to find it.
"The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title."

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If you have true understanding of the meaning and origin of life, then you'll quickly heal from this suicide. It's a complex issue with many variables.

Basically, mourning someone's death for too long or looking for sympathy for it, is a form of narcissism. Same with the one who committed suicide. Suicide is the magnum opus of narcissistic acts. But that's another book.

Humans only live about 60 years. That's a joke. Parrots live that long. You need to realize that a human life, while special in its own right, is a minuscule spa se of time. The real world is where we are prior to birth, and after death. The human life on Earth is HARDLY the primary. It's merely a quick experience.

Don't take life so seriously. Nobody gets out alive.

Good luck.
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The hardest part is forgiving him and letting him go.

Sit down and have a talk with him. Tell him everything you are feeling just like he is there. He is.

Take 10 minutes and spill your guts. Wait 15 minutes for a gut response.

Then forgive him and set him free.

Then cry.

Then go to bed.

In the morning. Put him out of your mind and know he is ok.

Move on with your life. because life is for the living. Death is for the dead.

The dead know only one thing.

It is much better to be alive.

So live your life and move on.
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tell your doctor and then ask him about cognitive behavioural therapy. and the very best to you, it will get better...I know...


hf
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Sorry to hear what happened

Stay busy and don't spend to much time in the dark side

Watch movies, read a book, say a prayer for your friend but don't dwell on it greif takes time to heal you are probably pretty normal for this circumstance
I awoke to hear john 3:16 in a loud voice.

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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Did you see any signs of his sadness?

I had an acquaintance that had a great group of "friends" around him, he was a DJ and fairly popular around my town.

He stayed in my house for a couple of days and it was obvious to me he was going through major depression, he would only be sort of sober if he was mixing a set to play at an event/gig later... but the rest of the time he would be trying whatever he could to pass out, either heavy drugs or alcohol.

I heard he died a few weeks later, he overdosed, and all his friends were "shocked"... shocked? I am merely an acquaintance and could clearly see he was deeply depressed and that he did not want to be on this planet.

So now that I know some of his "friends" a bit more I realize they are all mainly people that seem very loving, they seem very friendly... but only as long as they are partying, having a laugh and as long as they are drunk or on drugs themselves.

When they are sober the most you can expect from these "Friends" are cliché crap like: "dont worry, it'll be ok", "oh let's get drunk/smashed and you'll feel better" etc...

Nowadays friendship seems to be someone that is willing to fall in debauchery with you so you all ignore your real problems, which just makes things worse, is that real friendship?

If someone has the balls to dig in to help you, most people run away from that.. and could cost you the friendship, I have lost many friends this way by trying to help them.

I hope your situation was not like this and that you were a real friend and that you saw more with your eyes and your heart than these "friends" I described above, if so, it wont take you long to get over it, only time can heal you, nothing a therapist says or anyone on this board says can make that feeling go away, only you and time can do that.
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They go somewhere else..
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Op...I hope you find peace. Just be a bit careful in this place. Most people are loving but a small few will try and mess you up for sport. Youre grieving. Take care doing it with strangers. Peace. Be strong. Don't blame yourself.
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I lost a family member to suicide, 20 years later I still ask the same questions. A counsellor once said to me "You can't stop someone from killing themselves if that's what they really want to do". Somehow that eased my mind eased my mind a little.
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Their is information out telling of the drastic increase in suicides inside usa alleged to be brought on by the chemtrail spraying 'psycho-active drugs' recently detected in this 600+ chemical soup that also is removing humans memory, male sexuality, sleeping disorders, etc.

An evil agenda is in the final stages to eliminate what was our Nation. Pray outsiders to show up and stop this nations plunge into the renewed Nazism as was revealed by MI6 agent Christopher Story a few years back on one of the three videos that were shown on Youtube. American Jews be prepared for continuation of WW-II Holocaust as it now restarts the nightmare again for huge percentage of Americans of ALL races this time.

Those feeling suicidal need to be warned this is being done
purposely in majority of cases and to hang on.
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I'm gonna make this short, but I probably need to see a therapist about this. I've looked online but I can't find anything free, and I'm weary of "therapy". I just can't get images out of my mind. It's been about 2 weeks and I've been trying to get beyond it. I'm ok in the daytime, it's just nights like tonight that I can't seem to shake it.
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do a self reflection meditation and send them off with unconditional love i knew 6 people who comited suicide in 2 weeks and know that we all love you tc
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if its only been two weeks , then you are still trying to process the experience . as grieving comes in stages it may take awhile . it is important to accept that there is nothing that you could have done to change what happened and that having a sense of guilt will not help you . i dont think you can ever know what really drove them to do what they did , so turning your mind over for reasons is likely to be fruitless . remember the good times and celebrate what you did have with them amongst his acquantances , and know that things will improve with time . sorry if i was being presumptuous hf
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When my daughter died in 2004, if it hadn't been for the online grief support that I joined, I would not be here.
I totally understand what you are going through. The first year will be the hardest, as time goes by you learn to cope and heal.
If you loved, you will never forget them. Not a day goes by that I don't, at some point, think my daughter... but you learn to deal with it.
As much as I hate to say this, time heals, it does. I HATED HEARING THAT STATEMENT for several years even. But finally it dawns you that, I managed to sleep a couple hours, finally there is a day that goes by that you don't think of them till bedtime- and that is going to be your hardest time to cope. I spent many many MANY nights talking, all night with my grief support group. That group carried me the first year.
I tried to find that group for you, they were beyond excellent, I loved that site. But, as I said, time heals. Eventually you're able to cope. I did some hosting there, but one too many times I run in to the same accident my daughter had and I just couldn't do it any more, so I left the site. (I spent several years at that site)
It hadn't even dawned on me till I seen your post that I hadn't been there for awhile. And it's no longer there :(
That is a tremendous loss. People feel the need for others like them, like garners like.
Unfortunately, it is just inappropriate to bring it up in regular chat when everyone else is there to get away from their problems... yes a few will be fairly sympathetic, but they want to get back to "being their version of happy" yano? That is why I am shocked that site is gone. it had a wonderful chat system. Group chats (such as spousal loss, child loss, sibling loss, etc.) that met (usually) in the evenings and could be open be open all night, plus! there was "main" that was open 24/7 (that had heavy traffic) I really am stunned it's gone.
So I went looking for a site for you (my daughters anniversary of her death is sunday and I felt a need too- yes, even ten plus years down the road, you remember.)
I found an "ONLINE GRIEF SUPPORT" (no quotation mark, no spaces, dot com) I have no idea if you can post addy's here now. But the site looks fairly informative and seems to be current. I think it might be worth your looksee. If it's not, there were more on list, I clicked the top sites and this one seemed the best to me. What you are looking for is free online grief support.
Good luck with your journey and may you find peace within.
I am very sorry for your loss.
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I'm so very sorry to hear this OP. I will certainly keep you in my thoughts and prayers!
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Sorry. I lost my best friend to suicide. You are probably still in shock. Get as much support as you can. Let some time pass.
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Sorry I have not replied. I fell asleep while watching the above video. I dreamed about him all night long. He was just there watching. I would pass him by in the most normal of places. He was there, happy, content and no longer in pain.

The hardest part for me is seeing his daughter, she is too young to understand, so that's good in a sense.

I don't want sympathy, I just needed understanding. I feel like my dreams gave me that. The video helped me a lot, I'm going to share it with his mother and wife. (He was my brother in-law, that I've known for the last 14 years).

His death was sudden, and we knew he had prior depression, but he was having problems with his therapy. His insurance was interrupted and he couldn't continue it. The system failed him, and it makes me wonder what I can't do to help people that need it in situations like his. He was a researcher, a thinker, a musician, and it's hard to get off the ground in a world that does not celebrate the artists of our time. His job felt tiny in comparison to his abilities, that's a hard thing to do, but he was young(24), so I feel like he never gave it a chance.

I wish he would have come to me for help, but he instead spent his last day on earth watching netflix, I assume it was to drown out the pain. It makes me sad to think I was just a phone call away.

The hardest part was not knowing how he is now, if the pain stopped, or is it still an ongoing battle in the afterlife. I feel like my dream helped me cope with that, even if it just my subconscious protecting me from my own fears of the unknown.





GLP