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Well, I am more worried about how I’m going to sit another 7 hours. They just gave us our first break...a ten minute break. Yeet.

I’m not cut out for religion.

I mean, I went to trader joes with my mom on Sunday and one of the things I bought was this dope pumpkin oatmeal. So I’m not fasting, personally. I already spent the last couple of days barely eating because lately the food being served has just not jived with me.
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Are they directly monitoring your eating or just letting you do whatever?

7 more hours of religious service? Yikes.

Pumpkin oatmeal sounds yummy.
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I go crazy on the pumpkin when fall comes around.
Starbucks came out with a pumpkin cream cold brew that is phenomenal.

They don’t keep track of my eating, but I try to be forthcoming about it with my treatment team. I’m certainly not the only one here with an eating disorder though.
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Don't take this the wrong way..but ever since you started to describe where you are, I've gotten a 'cultly' vibe.

Just want to make sure this place is legit.



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Don't take this the wrong way..but ever since you started to describe where you are, I've gotten a 'cultly' vibe.

Just want to make sure this place is legit.



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Oh don’t get me wrong, it is definitely kind of culty.
But in a positive way. There’s no proverbial kool-aid.
It’s certainly unconventional, but they are good at helping people.
Almost everyone they hire has come through the program here at some point, so there’s almost an “inmate running the asylum” thing going on.
It’s also sort of amusing at times. Rabbi Mark, the founding Rabbi, used to walk around with a baseball bat. I thought the person who told me that was joking, but no.
They also have the ability to sanction relationships between clients or put them on non communication. So that’s kind of culty too.
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Well, I am more worried about how I’m going to sit another 7 hours. They just gave us our first break...a ten minute break. Yeet.

I’m not cut out for religion.

I mean, I went to trader joes with my mom on Sunday and one of the things I bought was this dope pumpkin oatmeal. So I’m not fasting, personally. I already spent the last couple of days barely eating because lately the food being served has just not jived with me.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


What exactly will you being doing during those 7 hours?

One wouldn't need to be nuts, to be driven nuts, after 7 hours of church.. One hour could drag for eternity as a kid. I usually doodled.


Seriously..that a is form of indoctrination.

I recall hearing that is how long David Koresh would keep his followers 'worshiping' daily..


Where is the structure, or incentive, the privileges/consequences. Is there training? Classes?

What does the 'treatment' really consist of?


I mean if they are not even monitoring your eating and expect to you to self-reveal, when even those without eating disorders, can't reliably form a food diary..to do so without force?

Unless I suppose, they figure you are far enough along in your recovery that you need less monitoring and just trust you?
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Well, I am more worried about how I’m going to sit another 7 hours. They just gave us our first break...a ten minute break. Yeet.

I’m not cut out for religion.

I mean, I went to trader joes with my mom on Sunday and one of the things I bought was this dope pumpkin oatmeal. So I’m not fasting, personally. I already spent the last couple of days barely eating because lately the food being served has just not jived with me.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


What exactly will you being doing during those 7 hours?

One wouldn't need to be nuts, to be driven nuts, after 7 hours of church.. One hour could drag for eternity as a kid. I usually doodled.


Seriously..that a is form of indoctrination.

I recall hearing that is how long David Koresh would keep his followers 'worshiping' daily..


Where is the structure, or incentive, the privileges/consequences. Is there training? Classes?

What does the 'treatment' really consist of?


I mean if they are not even monitoring your eating and expect to you to self-reveal, when even those without eating disorders, can't reliably form a food diary..to do so without force?

Unless I suppose, they figure you are far enough along in your recovery that you need less monitoring and just trust you?
 Quoting: Seer777


Well, this is a drug rehab. Long term eating disorder treatment doesn’t really exist. I’m not a huge drug addict, but the groups and therapy is still quite helpful.

It is a legitimate program. You have therapy once a week and counseling as well. During the day there’s group therapy. There are a couple of different groups to choose from every hour so it’s almost like picking “classes”. And there’s meetings at night. Of course the religious aspect is there too. We have spiritual counselors here which you meet with in addition to the therapist and the addiction counselor.

Privileges are getting to go out after 30 days, getting your phone back at 60 days, and potentially getting your car and computer back after 90 days.
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Well, this is a drug rehab. Long term eating disorder treatment doesn’t really exist. I’m not a huge drug addict, but the groups and therapy is still quite helpful.

It is a legitimate program. You have therapy once a week and counseling as well. During the day there’s group therapy. There are a couple of different groups to choose from every hour so it’s almost like picking “classes”. And there’s meetings at night. Of course the religious aspect is there too. We have spiritual counselors here which you meet with in addition to the therapist and the addiction counselor.

Privileges are getting to go out after 30 days, getting your phone back at 60 days, and potentially getting your car and computer back after 90 days.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


Do you feel you are far enough along that you can self-monitor your eating without much outside intervention? Are you being honest with your therapist?

How are the groups different and what would cause you to choose one over another?
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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Well, this is a drug rehab. Long term eating disorder treatment doesn’t really exist. I’m not a huge drug addict, but the groups and therapy is still quite helpful.

It is a legitimate program. You have therapy once a week and counseling as well. During the day there’s group therapy. There are a couple of different groups to choose from every hour so it’s almost like picking “classes”. And there’s meetings at night. Of course the religious aspect is there too. We have spiritual counselors here which you meet with in addition to the therapist and the addiction counselor.

Privileges are getting to go out after 30 days, getting your phone back at 60 days, and potentially getting your car and computer back after 90 days.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


Do you feel you are far enough along that you can self-monitor your eating without much outside intervention? Are you being honest with your therapist?

How are the groups different and what would cause you to choose one over another?
 Quoting: Seer777


I’ve been okay about eating. I was throwing up for awhile in the beginning but I haven’t done that in awhile. I just try to stick with foods I’m comfortable with like salad and lean meat and such.

The groups have different themes and topics. There’s stuff like moral engagement, relationships, process group, DBT, trauma, ect. They all have different facilitators, usually some kind of therapist but not always.
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Well, I am more worried about how I’m going to sit another 7 hours. They just gave us our first break...a ten minute break. Yeet.

I’m not cut out for religion.

I mean, I went to trader joes with my mom on Sunday and one of the things I bought was this dope pumpkin oatmeal. So I’m not fasting, personally. I already spent the last couple of days barely eating because lately the food being served has just not jived with me.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


What exactly will you being doing during those 7 hours?

One wouldn't need to be nuts, to be driven nuts, after 7 hours of church.. One hour could drag for eternity as a kid. I usually doodled.


Seriously..that a is form of indoctrination.

I recall hearing that is how long David Koresh would keep his followers 'worshiping' daily..


Where is the structure, or incentive, the privileges/consequences. Is there training? Classes?

What does the 'treatment' really consist of?


I mean if they are not even monitoring your eating and expect to you to self-reveal, when even those without eating disorders, can't reliably form a food diary..to do so without force?

Unless I suppose, they figure you are far enough along in your recovery that you need less monitoring and just trust you?
 Quoting: Seer777


Well, this is a drug rehab. Long term eating disorder treatment doesn’t really exist. I’m not a huge drug addict, but the groups and therapy is still quite helpful.

It is a legitimate program. You have therapy once a week and counseling as well. During the day there’s group therapy. There are a couple of different groups to choose from every hour so it’s almost like picking “classes”. And there’s meetings at night. Of course the religious aspect is there too. We have spiritual counselors here which you meet with in addition to the therapist and the addiction counselor.

Privileges are getting to go out after 30 days, getting your phone back at 60 days, and potentially getting your car and computer back after 90 days.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


maybe you should go live with seer! lol
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Do you feel you are far enough along that you can self-monitor your eating without much outside intervention? Are you being honest with your therapist?

How are the groups different and what would cause you to choose one over another?
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I’ve been okay about eating. I was throwing up for awhile in the beginning but I haven’t done that in awhile. I just try to stick with foods I’m comfortable with like salad and lean meat and such.

The groups have different themes and topics. There’s stuff like moral engagement, relationships, process group, DBT, trauma, ect. They all have different facilitators, usually some kind of therapist but not always.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


I hope if you start to struggle again with it, you inform your therapist, so they can make a plan to intercede before it progresses..


That's sounds legit.

Is it sit in a circle and talk, or more like desks and the therapist/instructor up front with the white board?


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Do you feel you are far enough along that you can self-monitor your eating without much outside intervention? Are you being honest with your therapist?

How are the groups different and what would cause you to choose one over another?
 Quoting: Seer777


I’ve been okay about eating. I was throwing up for awhile in the beginning but I haven’t done that in awhile. I just try to stick with foods I’m comfortable with like salad and lean meat and such.

The groups have different themes and topics. There’s stuff like moral engagement, relationships, process group, DBT, trauma, ect. They all have different facilitators, usually some kind of therapist but not always.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


I hope if you start to struggle again with it, you inform your therapist, so they can make a plan to intercede before it progresses..


That's sounds legit.

Is it sit in a circle and talk, or more like desks and the therapist/instructor up front with the white board?


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 Quoting: Seer777


Ah no, circle of chairs all the way.

Yeah, it’s legit. Even though on days like today I want to shoot myself in the foot. But it’s the holiest day of the Jewish calendar or whatever. To be honest I’m hiding in my room right now, but one guy already got caught doing that (he was watching Braveheart) and they sent him back down.
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I’ve been okay about eating. I was throwing up for awhile in the beginning but I haven’t done that in awhile. I just try to stick with foods I’m comfortable with like salad and lean meat and such.

The groups have different themes and topics. There’s stuff like moral engagement, relationships, process group, DBT, trauma, ect. They all have different facilitators, usually some kind of therapist but not always.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


I hope if you start to struggle again with it, you inform your therapist, so they can make a plan to intercede before it progresses..


That's sounds legit.

Is it sit in a circle and talk, or more like desks and the therapist/instructor up front with the white board?


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
 Quoting: Seer777


Ah no, circle of chairs all the way.

Yeah, it’s legit. Even though on days like today I want to shoot myself in the foot. But it’s the holiest day of the Jewish calendar or whatever. To be honest I’m hiding in my room right now, but one guy already got caught doing that (he was watching Braveheart) and they sent him back down.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


Good to know.

Breaking the rules, seems like a way to lose your new privilege. I get it though.

Maybe this is a way to decide what you prefer. Forcing yourself to function outside of rigid structure..or keep adhering to a programs that serves many simultaneously, by enforcing rules.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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I’ve been okay about eating. I was throwing up for awhile in the beginning but I haven’t done that in awhile. I just try to stick with foods I’m comfortable with like salad and lean meat and such.

The groups have different themes and topics. There’s stuff like moral engagement, relationships, process group, DBT, trauma, ect. They all have different facilitators, usually some kind of therapist but not always.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


I hope if you start to struggle again with it, you inform your therapist, so they can make a plan to intercede before it progresses..


That's sounds legit.

Is it sit in a circle and talk, or more like desks and the therapist/instructor up front with the white board?


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
 Quoting: Seer777


Ah no, circle of chairs all the way.

Yeah, it’s legit. Even though on days like today I want to shoot myself in the foot. But it’s the holiest day of the Jewish calendar or whatever. To be honest I’m hiding in my room right now, but one guy already got caught doing that (he was watching Braveheart) and they sent him back down.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


Good to know.

Breaking the rules, seems like a way to lose your new privilege. I get it though.

Maybe this is a way to decide what you prefer. Forcing yourself to function outside of rigid structure..or keep adhering to a programs that serves many simultaneously, by enforcing rules.
 Quoting: Seer777


Sitting for 9 hours is just inane. Outside my capacity. I understand what you’re getting at, but I need stimulation. I know you’re an order person, and you know I’m a chaos person. I’m not opposed to using some principles of order to improve my life, but I’m not sure these circumstances qualify.

Granted, I’m in and out. I take in as much as I can, but shit I need a break from time to time.
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Ah no, circle of chairs all the way.

Yeah, it’s legit. Even though on days like today I want to shoot myself in the foot. But it’s the holiest day of the Jewish calendar or whatever. To be honest I’m hiding in my room right now, but one guy already got caught doing that (he was watching Braveheart) and they sent him back down.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


Good to know.

Breaking the rules, seems like a way to lose your new privilege. I get it though.

Maybe this is a way to decide what you prefer. Forcing yourself to function outside of rigid structure..or keep adhering to a programs that serves many simultaneously, by enforcing rules.
 Quoting: Seer777


Sitting for 9 hours is just inane. Outside my capacity. I understand what you’re getting at, but I need stimulation. I know you’re an order person, and you know I’m a chaos person. I’m not opposed to using some principles of order to improve my life, but I’m not sure these circumstances qualify.

Granted, I’m in and out. I take in as much as I can, but shit I need a break from time to time.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


If treatment is to serve any purpose, it is to re-order the chaos, one has created of their lives..


We can talk all day over philosophy and psychology, but this is very serious. You need to be serious about your recovery..or give someone who is, a spot there.

I don't want this to be a repeat of the last few years.


You need to examine what you really want, and then examine that, even closer.
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There’s very little I am capable of doing for 9 straight hours
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I hear ya.


I hated working all the time too and didn't really enjoy college much either.

I feel very fortunate to be able to support myself the way I do.

..do you like working with your hands? Perhaps learn a skill?

I saw this yesterday and recall how much I love drawing faces as a teen.

There are YouTube tutorials for almost anything. That is really pretty magical.

With most skills..it just takes the will, and lots of practice.


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There’s very little I am capable of doing for 9 straight hours
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


I hear ya.


I hated working all the time too and didn't really enjoy college much either.

I feel very fortunate to be able to support myself the way I do.

..do you like working with your hands? Perhaps learn a skill?

I saw this yesterday and recall how much I love drawing faces as a teen.

There are YouTube tutorials for almost anything. That is really pretty magical.

With most skills..it just takes the will, and lots of practice.


 Quoting: Seer777


Honestly I don’t have any handy skills. I’ve always wished I did.

I don’t mind college or even working if the job stays at least remotely busy.

But I really need stimulation of some kind. Even a two hour movie is often boring to me. That’s why my hobby is video games instead of movies. More mental challenge involved.

I tried to learn piano for awhile, but I just didn’t have the drive to follow through.

I’m not exactly sure what’s out there for me. I have no idea how to make use of the things I’m good at.
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I hope if you start to struggle again with it, you inform your therapist, so they can make a plan to intercede before it progresses..


That's sounds legit.

Is it sit in a circle and talk, or more like desks and the therapist/instructor up front with the white board?


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
 Quoting: Seer777


Ah no, circle of chairs all the way.

Yeah, it’s legit. Even though on days like today I want to shoot myself in the foot. But it’s the holiest day of the Jewish calendar or whatever. To be honest I’m hiding in my room right now, but one guy already got caught doing that (he was watching Braveheart) and they sent him back down.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


Good to know.

Breaking the rules, seems like a way to lose your new privilege. I get it though.

Maybe this is a way to decide what you prefer. Forcing yourself to function outside of rigid structure..or keep adhering to a programs that serves many simultaneously, by enforcing rules.
 Quoting: Seer777


Sitting for 9 hours is just inane. Outside my capacity. I understand what you’re getting at, but I need stimulation. I know you’re an order person, and you know I’m a chaos person. I’m not opposed to using some principles of order to improve my life, but I’m not sure these circumstances qualify.

Granted, I’m in and out. I take in as much as I can, but shit I need a break from time to time.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


True order is intrinsic, internal; externalized/hierarchical 'order' is true chaos.

True order is found by conforming within to the Spirit of Love rather than conforming to the world outside.

It is not found in life by adapting to form
But by forming within us



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Through the night
I see the door
I see the love transcending through the air
Through the pain
I call his name
I see the light can lift me from the
Shadows surrendering all that I have



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President Joe once had a dream
The world gave its hand
And its pledge
So he told them his scheme for a Saviour Machine



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 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


I hear ya.


I hated working all the time too and didn't really enjoy college much either.

I feel very fortunate to be able to support myself the way I do.

..do you like working with your hands? Perhaps learn a skill?

I saw this yesterday and recall how much I love drawing faces as a teen.

There are YouTube tutorials for almost anything. That is really pretty magical.

With most skills..it just takes the will, and lots of practice.


 Quoting: Seer777


Honestly I don’t have any handy skills. I’ve always wished I did.

I don’t mind college or even working if the job stays at least remotely busy.

But I really need stimulation of some kind. Even a two hour movie is often boring to me. That’s why my hobby is video games instead of movies. More mental challenge involved.

I tried to learn piano for awhile, but I just didn’t have the drive to follow through.

I’m not exactly sure what’s out there for me. I have no idea how to make use of the things I’m good at.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


hugs

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Thanks :)

Maybe I will play.
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Thanks :)

Maybe I will play.
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You're welcome
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 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


I hear ya.


I hated working all the time too and didn't really enjoy college much either.

I feel very fortunate to be able to support myself the way I do.

..do you like working with your hands? Perhaps learn a skill?

I saw this yesterday and recall how much I love drawing faces as a teen.

There are YouTube tutorials for almost anything. That is really pretty magical.

With most skills..it just takes the will, and lots of practice.


 Quoting: Seer777


Honestly I don’t have any handy skills. I’ve always wished I did.

I don’t mind college or even working if the job stays at least remotely busy.

But I really need stimulation of some kind. Even a two hour movie is often boring to me. That’s why my hobby is video games instead of movies. More mental challenge involved.

I tried to learn piano for awhile, but I just didn’t have the drive to follow through.

I’m not exactly sure what’s out there for me. I have no idea how to make use of the things I’m good at.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


No time to learn, like the present.

There is a ton of stuff out there one can use to be creative.

For example..a couple years ago I built this from a kit..


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It was both challenging and really rewarding, being I completed it after many countless hours..and weeks.

It sits in front of me currently, decorated for Halloween, with some ceramic pumpkins and a handmade zombie girl I picked up over the years, at art shows.

Every little detail is hand created.


I've got this coming tomorrow.. I think it looks like fun..

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 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


I hear ya.


I hated working all the time too and didn't really enjoy college much either.

I feel very fortunate to be able to support myself the way I do.

..do you like working with your hands? Perhaps learn a skill?

I saw this yesterday and recall how much I love drawing faces as a teen.

There are YouTube tutorials for almost anything. That is really pretty magical.

With most skills..it just takes the will, and lots of practice.


 Quoting: Seer777


Honestly I don’t have any handy skills. I’ve always wished I did.

I don’t mind college or even working if the job stays at least remotely busy.

But I really need stimulation of some kind. Even a two hour movie is often boring to me. That’s why my hobby is video games instead of movies. More mental challenge involved.

I tried to learn piano for awhile, but I just didn’t have the drive to follow through.

I’m not exactly sure what’s out there for me. I have no idea how to make use of the things I’m good at.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


No time to learn, like the present.

There is a ton of stuff out there one can use to be creative.

For example..a couple years ago I built this from a kit..


[link to youtu.be (secure)]


It was both challenging and really rewarding, being I completed it after many countless hours..and weeks.

It sits in front of me currently, decorated for Halloween, with some ceramic pumpkins and a handmade zombie girl I picked up over the years, at art shows.

Every little detail is hand created.


I've got this coming tomorrow.. I think it looks like fun..

[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Seer777


Yes, you are definitely a crafty person. I’m totally creative, but I’m not skilled with my hands that way. I wish I had something that i was really dedicated to doing or learning in that tactile way. I’ve always sort of figured I’d stick to what I’m good at. But I guess there’s a lot of growing that can be gained from learning a new skill.

Nobody has gotten back to me about the writing I sent so I’m not sure what to make of that. I’m meeting with them tomorrow and I suppose I shouldn’t jump to any conclusions about it but I’m SO quick to anxiety. I dread everything all the time.
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10/09/2019 07:30 PM

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lmao

I like the juxtaposition of the cat in the box and the sacred geometry. Oh, the span of the internet is baffling and sort of wonderful.

We rescheduled to Thursday so that gives me more time.
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Honestly I don’t have any handy skills. I’ve always wished I did.

I don’t mind college or even working if the job stays at least remotely busy.

But I really need stimulation of some kind. Even a two hour movie is often boring to me. That’s why my hobby is video games instead of movies. More mental challenge involved.

I tried to learn piano for awhile, but I just didn’t have the drive to follow through.

I’m not exactly sure what’s out there for me. I have no idea how to make use of the things I’m good at.
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No time to learn, like the present.

There is a ton of stuff out there one can use to be creative.

For example..a couple years ago I built this from a kit..


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It was both challenging and really rewarding, being I completed it after many countless hours..and weeks.

It sits in front of me currently, decorated for Halloween, with some ceramic pumpkins and a handmade zombie girl I picked up over the years, at art shows.

Every little detail is hand created.


I've got this coming tomorrow.. I think it looks like fun..

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Yes, you are definitely a crafty person. I’m totally creative, but I’m not skilled with my hands that way. I wish I had something that i was really dedicated to doing or learning in that tactile way. I’ve always sort of figured I’d stick to what I’m good at. But I guess there’s a lot of growing that can be gained from learning a new skill.

Nobody has gotten back to me about the writing I sent so I’m not sure what to make of that. I’m meeting with them tomorrow and I suppose I shouldn’t jump to any conclusions about it but I’m SO quick to anxiety. I dread everything all the time.
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Be who you are and say what you feel.. because those that mind, don't matter, and those that matter, don't mind.
~Dr. Suess

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Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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10/09/2019 07:32 PM
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Aww...I’m glad I’m able to reach out for support and be supported by somebody who cares.

I do have that here at Beit T’shuvah, but it’s different. How long have you and I known each now? 6 years?
Seer777  (OP)
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10/09/2019 07:44 PM

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The Rules are pretty simple when laid out according to common sense and the observation and respect of another persons free will and humanity.

Don't kill, Don't lie, Don't cheat. Honor your parents. Don't put your faith in false image...and so on.

Pretty simple.

But they are weighted against the human tendency to both bend and break them. And many do every single day.
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Honor your parents applies even if they abuse you, as traditionally interpreted. Nice try though. You are only honoring that they gave birth to you, not that they parented. Little clarifications make the whole legal edifice...unacceptable. And if it and those who wrote it and ruthlessly enforced it are to rule the world, then let that world be smoldering ash.
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You're missing the point that the rules are constantly broken. That goes for parents not respecting the humanity of their children either. Don't lie to your kids. Don't cheat them. Don't kill them. Don't steal from them. Don't covet your neighbor's kids..and so on.


Sex makes babies. Does not mean one was ever fit to raise a tiny human.


I think that it is recognizing the humanity in your parents when you grow up, that they are people and people are haunted by their own lives before the kid comes.


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Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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10/09/2019 08:18 PM
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Why the parents thing right now?

Services are nearly over...about 45 minutes left.

One of the Rabbis was sitting in the chair next to me during one of the times he didn’t have to be on stage. He was making funny faces while one of the ladies was reading from the Torah. I guess 9 hours will do things to your mind even if you are a senior Rabbi.
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10/09/2019 08:25 PM

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Seer, you were right about the onions. I made a big pot of beef stew tonight with lots of onions, some potatoes. It's ready in about 30 minutes. K..I tried this really yummy oatmeal I wouldn't normally buy. It didn't sound like it would be good together but it's seriously soooo good. It's coconut and caramel. You should try it.





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