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Cults Don’t Stand a Chance Against Ted Patrick (feat. Gary Anthony Williams) - Drunk History


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^^

If you haven't watched any of the Drunk History clips, I recommend you at least watch this one.

There was a huge amount of sync yesterday, to bring it back around.

It is about the very thing you use to talk about all the time.
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Okay, damn! That's an incredible story, I cant believe I never heard about it
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Ted Patrick

Despite a lack of formal education and professional training, Patrick was hired by hundreds of parents and family members to "deprogram" their loved ones. A high school dropout, Patrick based his techniques and practices on his own life experience. Patrick once remarked in a May 1979 TV debate with members of the Hare Krishna group, "How I got into deprogramming was through my own son. All outdoor boy, couldn't nothing keep him in the house. Then one day, he was psychologic... psychological(ly) kidnap(ped) by a cult".

In this interview, Patrick also explained how this search to understand cults led him to speaking with "witches, warlocks, healers" and in fact, he went "all the way to New Orleans" to the same person his mother brought him to for his speech impediment. He also stated that he spent time in a religious group and after a week "...didn't know where I were, nor how I got there...I was hook(ed)."

Patrick stated this research and understanding of the mind from his ongoing struggle with his own speech, served as the background for his work in deprogramming.


On 12 June 1971, Mrs. Samuel Jackson contacted Patrick to file a complaint concerning her missing son, Billy.

As Billy was nineteen, the police and FBI would not look for him. Billy was involved with the group known as the Children of God, who had approached Patrick's own son, Michael a week prior. Patrick contacted other people whose relatives were in the cult, and even pretended to join them, to study how the group operated. This was when he developed his method of deprogramming. He ultimately left his full-time job, in order to work on deprogramming full-time.[3] Patrick founded the FREECOG organization, later known as the Citizen's Freedom Foundation, in 1971[1] before merging into the Cult Awareness Network.



As one of the pioneers of deprogramming, Patrick used a 'confrontational' method:

When you deprogram people, you force them to think.... But I keep them off balance and this forces them to begin questioning, to open their minds. When the mind gets to a certain point, they can see through all the lies that they've been programmed to believe. They realize that they've been duped and they come out of it. Their minds start working again.

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^^

This one is available for rent on Amazon.

Might watch this one tonight.
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Rented Deprogrammed last night. Still chewing on it.

Learned about this guy..


Sun Myung Moon

Sun Myung Moon was a Korean religious leader, also known for his business ventures and support for political causes.

A messiah claimant, he was the founder of the Unification movement (members of which considered him and his wife Hak Ja Han to be their "True Parents"), and of its widely noted "Blessing" or mass wedding ceremony, and the author of its unique theology the Divine Principle. He was an opponent of communism and an advocate for Korean reunification, for which he was recognized by the governments of both North and South Korea.

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Deprogram and Reprogram

is there more of a difference than the Consonant?
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Too bad the IV222 threads were deleted. I visited all the tenets of deprogramming there along with synchronicity being a major portent of schizophrenia.

Groupthink is dangerous when complex issues are made simplistic.
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Deprogram and Reprogram

is there more of a difference than the Consonant?
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Yes, there is always a program. However the level of tailoring and indoctrination vary.
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Deprogram and Reprogram

is there more of a difference than the Consonant?
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Too bad the IV222 threads were deleted. I visited all the tenets of deprogramming there along with synchronicity being a major portent of schizophrenia.

Groupthink is dangerous when complex issues are made simplistic.
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I still wonder what happened to IV. He had a good heart in the right place I think.

He was also funny and creative. I definitely understand the potential to surrender to a guru but was a little wiser after the fact.

Whatever was activated in me, has not changed.

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Too bad the IV222 threads were deleted. I visited all the tenets of deprogramming there along with synchronicity being a major portent of schizophrenia.

Groupthink is dangerous when complex issues are made simplistic.
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I still wonder what happened to IV. He had a good heart in the right place I think.

He was also funny and creative. I definitely understand the potential to surrender to a guru but was a little wiser after the fact.

Whatever was activated in me, has not changed.

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IV was pretty interesting. I only had a short interaction with him on my early glp days but he made an impact for sure.
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Ted Patrick

As one of the pioneers of deprogramming, Patrick used a 'confrontational' method:

When you deprogram people, you force them to think.... But I keep them off balance and this forces them to begin questioning, to open their minds. When the mind gets to a certain point, they can see through all the lies that they've been programmed to believe. They realize that they've been duped and they come out of it. Their minds start working again.
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^^

This one is available for rent on Amazon.

Might watch this one tonight.
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Rented Deprogrammed last night. Still chewing on it.

Learned about this guy..


Sun Myung Moon

Sun Myung Moon was a Korean religious leader, also known for his business ventures and support for political causes.

A messiah claimant, he was the founder of the Unification movement (members of which considered him and his wife Hak Ja Han to be their "True Parents"), and of its widely noted "Blessing" or mass wedding ceremony, and the author of its unique theology the Divine Principle. He was an opponent of communism and an advocate for Korean reunification, for which he was recognized by the governments of both North and South Korea.

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Just finished watching this documentary. Couldn't find a trailer for it.

It is on Netflix.

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Wanted to mention that this documentary has disturbing imagery and can be summed up pretty quick.

The females of the cult, basically became sex slaves to the males of the cult, then were later to become 'prostitutes for Jesus' which they called 'fishing'.

Then later as a group, turned their sexual appetites toward the children/teens as well.

Pretty dark stuff.


Sex is not love. The two have nothing to with each other, in my view.
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Prostitutes for Jesus? The hell does that even mean?

While I get where you're coming from with the last part- and agree you can have love without sex and sex without love, the two can certainly go together from my perspective. Intention of the participants and what not
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They took tons of video and had flyers and posters printed up, so there is a lot of media to see.

In one poster, it showed a naked woman on the end of a fish hook.


The guru..or whatever he was..basically demanded they all have sex together and send him the video tape recordings of the them doing so.

It was essentially a pornography ring, disguised as a religion. Then they got the kids involved.

There is video of small children doing strip tease. They blur the face and only show the part when they are clothed..but there is other disturbing photographs from the fliers they printed their propaganda on.
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Uighyur woman forced to marry a Chinese party official. State sanctioned sexual slavery
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Oh yeah. Good morning too. Not a very good morning to me but I came up with some cool ideas for cults for creative matters. So that's...something...I suppose
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Kind of a strange assignment. Getting Scientology vibes again.
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Thinking about cults doesn't inspire my creativity..

They actively recall horrors like, Jonestown. Heaven's Gate, David Koresh, and one of the myriad of mormon cults, where one guy has 30 wives.
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'Religious community'. Is this sync..or something else?

Horrific.


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An interesting history of the LeBaron family by one of their own


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From link..

Mexican authorities arrested Ervil for my father’s murder, but he was later released. The authorities claimed they had no proof that my uncle had actually pulled the trigger—and of course he hadn’t.

With my father’s assassination, the Church of the Firstborn splintered like a piece of dry wood. Ervil and his followers remained in hiding, running between the US and Mexico as murders of other polygamist leaders in both countries continued to be carried out by the Church of the Lamb of God.

It took the authorities eight years to catch up with him, but not before he killed more than twenty-five people, most of whom questioned or doubted his authority. His victims included one of his thirteen wives and two of his own children. Because my uncle never killed his victims himself, but instead ordered his followers to commit these violent acts for him, the media in both the United States and Mexico nicknamed him the Mormon Manson.

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10/9/19

Don't take this the wrong way..but ever since you started to describe where you are, I've gotten a 'cultly' vibe.

Just want to make sure this place is legit.



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11/4/19

Why even call it a cult?

It automatically has negative connotations right out the gate.

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Not trying to discourage you..I just find the assignment bizarre after already dismissing cult vibes.
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Just getting a feel for when this started and then popped back up.
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Thanks for this.

I watched it a few times yesterday, while making dinner.

Kinda makes me want to watch it, but I have a feeling it's probably too violent for me. Which is why I avoided it.

I've heard from many it is excellent.
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In the fall of 1989, local authorities here announced that six of Ervil’s youngest children, mostly teen-agers, left their separate Salt Lake City foster homes in an apparently coordinated escape and probably rejoined the cult in Mexico.

“These kids had contact with each other, they knew how to keep in touch and one night they all disappeared,” says Forbes.

If these children returned to Mexico, it was to a “bad scene” according to Rena Chynoweth. “The ranch was a veritable hotbed of hatred, militarism and illegal activities,” she writes in her book. “It was reputed to be an arsenal for many types of automatic weapons and the group was reported to be dealing in stolen cars and motorcycles from the U.S.”
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Those murdered today belong to a cult that is a major, federally-protected part of the drug trade.
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hmm
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Do you see the cult as a sync?
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Anyway..the point of the cult topic is that is both difficult to break free of, and deprogram from a cult.

And cults will kill to hang on to their members.
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Yeah it almost becomes a collectively possessed organism
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Ever have one of the moments where you pass up a moment to help someone randomly, and then are haunted by it later?
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you must be purposely suppressing yourself. faded outline of a yellow square. barely noticeable! lol
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Almost constantly.


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Did you watch Westworld?
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That's the thing about both experience and reference.

It either makes sense or it doesn't.

Laugh and the world laughs with you..


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Here's the truth, the vast majority of humans are sexually unattractive. Many are rather hideous physically. Look around.


To bypass Nature and her natural selection of the 'most beautiful'..the males have attempted to 'own the snatch' through money and control and religion.



Yep..I think Satan tried to do Eve a favor and warn her what would happen to her multitude of daughters.

Of course there is no proof Adam/Eve/Lilith ever existed. But working within the confines of the myth..this interpretation works for me.
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Funny little experience last night.

Went to investigate some bloke making a lot of noise and what sounded like an attempted break in. Cops arrived about the time I did and proceeded to chase him thru a few backyards until he realized he could outrun then and sprinted for the park. Don't think he even saw me before I cut him off and grabbed him.

Afterwards, one of the neighbors explained "Michael just has some anger issues and got to drunk"

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Once a relationship gets to the point where they become an ex, it really isn't a good idea to keep hanging around each other.

It just, recalls fondness and pain and both get all mixed together to become confusing, dependent, and abusive relationships.


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Ah-yup sync day. Literally just found/listened to this.



But from my experiences - you're utterly right Seer. Especially if it's a messy break up.
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Saw this earlier. Thought it was neat.

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is that where the EYE OF SAURON is ?
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It is where ice and fire meet.


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^^

I was just watching this. Seconds in, when I saw your post. First time all day. Suddenly felt compelled.

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spent time in the presence of a little girl and her mother this morning. the little girl was perhaps 3-4 years old, she was also blind. she alternated between singing and crying in her mother's arms. she had a beautiful voice and would sing melodically in a language i couldn't identify. her mother spoke english to her without a foreign accent. she would sing and then cry as her mother held her to her breast. this went on in a large room of people who were there reading books, or concentrating on their phones, trying their best to tune the child out. lol

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I love this story. Thanks for sharing.
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It exists in timelessness and is likely much more than you.

This is why I described it to aether as a comfortable place.

The comfort or nature thereof is transfer or confluence with the geometry thereof.

Geometry being a relationship of multiple perspectives or points ; where each point solidifies the relationship ,yet, alters it quite perceptibly.
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If it exists in timelessness, why the adherence to 'Timing is Everything'?


I remember intimately the moment I stumbled on the Pandora thread.

The sync at that moment, twisted me in a knot so severe I looked for a way to avoid that ever happening again in the future.

That was when I decided that if I found a way to reach myself in the present, from the future, I would do so, but I would have to do it in a way that didn't scare me into shutting down, or completely drive me insane while trying to read the signs.


It made the synchronicity easier to deal with and now it is just, old hat.

But it took a lot of bending mentally, and spiritually, to get myself to a place that just allowed for further bends without breaking.

Flexibility
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It's only unbelievable until it isn't.

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My dad was able to witness Kilauea erupting back in the 80s. He was there playing baseball. They had to stop the game because of it. I believe it was already active from what I recall him telling me. It had to be in April or July that he was there that year. But anyways they had to quit the game and had problems getting a flight out.

The current ongoing eruption cycle began on Jan. 3, 1983, along the middle of the east rift zone. By April, the eruptions became localized at one vent. Lava fountains built a cinder and spatter cone 836 feet high. The frequent short eruptions produced thick chunky lava flows that usually cooled and halted before reaching the coast. However, in July 1983, the lava made its inexorable advance into the nearby Royal Gardens subdivision and destroyed 16 homes. The expensive subdivision was largely abandoned.
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That would really be something to experience. I have a very vague memory of seeing Mt Saint Helen's ash covering everything on May 18 1980. I turned 3 the day before..


We all get to experience it now, due the advent of the handheld recording device we all now carry.

It was really something else watching the videos of the Guatemala pyroclastic flow, last year. Then again with Hurricane Dorian and all the videos uploaded during the eye in real time.

Terror sounds the same in every language..



Have any of those people been confirmed alive?

The guy with the hurricane proof house, that stayed because of his dogs..I think about that video a lot.

He kept saying..This is deep ocean..This is deep ocean..

He was there recording and there was nothing but water around him.

Harrowing few days. I cried a lot. You could feel those desperation and all those people dying. Begging for help.

Something changed after that event.


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I watched some of the videos but I couldn't bring myself to watch all that were posted. I cried too.


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I did a quick search on YouTube and didn't see that video posted.

It's haunting. I'd like to know if he died.


I had just days before, posted in a Chernobyl thread about the dogs and how people were force to leave them behind.

Days later Dorian and that vid..where he chose to stay because he couldn't take his dogs and the person that made that thread was forced to make a GFM, to rent a car to evacuate.

It's the weird syncs like that, that are difficult to bend with.

I'd like to know if that guy died..if anyone knows for sure.


Thread: What Happened to the Dogs of Chernobyl? | The Dodo


We just watched Chernobyl series not long ago. I know many animals had to be put down then, but didn't realize dogs were still around there.
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It's the part of Chernobyl series, nobody talks about.

He explains they were, pets..so they wouldn't be afraid of people and would be friendly.


Tough to watch, or even consider..


Even tougher to consider what led to accident to begin with.

Hubris mostly. And then, top down squelching. The true evil of that kind of government.


You can hear the dogs barking in this scene..


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I remember when Mikey took over, just after you left.

That was weird..


Then you came back..and said you were dead.

Nothing has ever been the same after and that was 4 years ago. 5?


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I did die. And recently I died again, almost. I've changed twice. Perhaps even more than that. But I like to think I am much much stronger for all of those terrible experiences
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Take it in stride.

That's what I do.



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