Guess what the Trans Pacific Partnership Trade agreement does to American food Prices?

Well for a start you will be able to import our food without it being taxed to hell.

You will also be importing Australian food, both countries produce high quality food and will want to compete in the market place.

You're just fear mongering.

Does it matter if you buy your food from Texas or Australia?

Seriously, who gives a shit.
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How will we know the difference when they will not label any food products anymore?

UMMM, do you see a bunch of farmers here in the US? No you don't... If you say "¥€$" you're a liar. I take it you haven't traveled the 50 states or the world for that matter. We import products, put them together and then export those products!!! So SIR with all due respect, GROW A BRAIN!

Food is always labeled.

You can't pick a can or packet of anything here without it clearly stating where it comes from.
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Hell yes it matters! And I'll bet it matters to you too.
People who don't want to buy shitty poison Chinese food care.

Your county does produce great quality food, as do a number of other countries. But there are countries whose food products are consistently not only substandard but have been proven repeatedly to cause illness and death. Countries such as China, Vietnam, some stuff from the Phillipines, and several others--

This treaty wants to shove the undesireable garbage off on unsuspecting food buyers just so some corporation can make their 'expected profits'.

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Hmmm...you may have stumbled upon why our sh*tstain for a president didn't want anyone reading it!

Then we will die and not evolve correctly.

You will almost zero of their products making it to the self.

We get rice from them and that is about all.

I buy Australian rice.

Like I said the country of origin is always in bold on the packet.
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For a funny side to this, the Chinese will not feed their own kids Chinese milk, they buy ours, and we have to stop them stripping the selves of it and sending it home.
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Sure, today it is. Under the TransPacificPartnership. it will NOT be allowed for one food seller to have an 'unfair advantage' such as that.

They had this problem in Ireland too. Potatoes sold for more $$ out of the country. That's how it started for them...

No, that won't change, you are fear mongering.

I've never seen a packet of anything without the country of origin stated.

No one would buy it. Also countries are proud of their country.
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Yes, it will. They will be able to bring in as many of their own workers as they want, pay them far less than your country's av. wages--on which they will not owe income tax to your country (but they will be able to get welfare)--and the corporation WILL NOT have to abide by your country's standards of sanitation, water/air pollution, safety or labor laws. Some of your excellent domestic food producers will no doubt be put out of business. But that's what the big multinationals want--no competition and total control.

Aldi products all say distributed from Batavia, Illinois. It never has original origin..

As long as the 1% get theirs does it really matter how much more we suffer?

You really spin some shit.

It is illegal to pay under our minimum wage.

Our laws are our laws, no one gets to bypass them.



Stop talking shit.
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Agreed, farming here is heavily subsidized. It will cause a pretty big economic upheavel in the US when that ends. But most small family farms have been taxed out of existence over the years and most all that's left atre the big companies. Small farmers have a tough time even now.

I think it would be great for small farms to make a come back in America.

Last Edited by Ralph--a house dog on 05/13/2015 04:47 PM

Oh for shits sake. Foreign exports will say. You know where that is and it just goes to show how closed your market is.

Here's a clue, I never buy anything American. It's mostly not even sold here. I'm not dead, I have not starved to death.

sorry quote fucked up for some reason.

I was saying, we don't buy American and we are not dead.

and if your products do not state made in America that just shows "one" it was produced for the local market and "two" how closed your market is.
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the quotes are fucking up ... what's up with that?

A nation of farmers... guess what, people, gardening isn't really as easy as putting a seed into some dirt and waiting. I know that doesn't sound hard, but actually getting a crop you can eat means you have to have some land/garden plot, and a number of plants that you take care of, water, fertilize, and pull the bad bugs off of the crop before it gets damaged.

Planting fruit/nut trees will help in several years. Do you have the time to wait for that, or will you die before you get anything from the planting?

I didn't grow up gardening (my folks were city raised) and only in the last four or five years have I even gotten interested in producing my own food. The first year, I thought it was going swimmingly, then a blight hit my lovely tomatoes and they died in three days (all seven plants). The next year we tried again, and got three plants to survive and got about 5 tomatoes per plant.

The basil is a favorite with the slugs and it took a while before we got them under control. I do a good job with kale, spinach, and herbs. Potatoes are pretty good, and I shine at growing snowpeas. You planning to live on that?

It's work! How many people want to add this to what they already do in a day? Well, when it's what puts food on the table and means the difference between having dinner or going hungry, then maybe they'll change attitudes, but before then, good luck!

Not talking shit--this thing is far reaching beyond belief. People here in the US have been saying the same thing -- can't trump the Constitution; illegal to break our laws--etc.

But that is the horror of the TransPacific Partnership. It transcends the laws of nations, it does override their Constitutions, it is to be part of the one world government.

This is why it isn't publicized but enough has leaked out (and admitted to by the US govt) that all hell will break loose when it goes into effect and people realize how they have been conned.

Goverment subsidies are the reason you can buy milk for $2-$5/gallon instead of $10.

I don't know about that?

Seems too wrong to be true.
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welp, we had to pass it to see what was in it

Same reason why you can't buy KIWI for example.

You guys apparently add an 80% tax to imports.

You have stopped yourselves from being able to enjoy products from elsewhere.

It's not all crap you know.
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There are many articles online that detail what the TPP will do. Some are pro-TPP, others actually spell out what negatives it will bring.

Here's part of one-
[link to www.nationofchange.org]

The TPP, if passed, would implement trade rules that make it illegal for governments to create and enforce regulations on everything from environmental standards, to wage and labor laws, to the duration of copyrights. A law prohibiting the sale of goods made in sweatshops in Vietnam could be ruled illegal, for example, as a barrier to trade. Or certification requirements that lumber not be harvested from old-growth forests in Malaysia could be overturned.

Lori Wallach of Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch program is one of the leading critics of TPP:

“It’s a delivery mechanism for a lot of the things [Senate Majority Leader Mitch] McConnell and the Republicans like. So, for instance, it would increase the duration of patents for Big Pharma and, as a result, give them windfall profits but increase our medicine prices. It could roll back financial regulation on big banks. It could limit Internet freedom, sort of sneak through the back door the Stop Online Piracy Act, SOPA,” Wallach explained. “It would give special privileges and rights for foreign corporations to skirt around our courts and sue the U.S. government to raid our treasury over any environmental, consumer health law that they think undermine their expected future profits, the so-called ‘investor-state’ enforcement system. Plus, it would have the NAFTA-style rules that make it easier to offshore jobs, making it easier to relocate to low-wage countries.”

The TPP, she went on, “was negotiated with the assistance of 600 corporate advisers, official corporate trade advisers in the U.S. The agreement has been the initiative of the Obama administration. It was started by [President George W.] Bush, but instead of turning it around and making it something different, the Obama folks picked it up and, frankly, have made it even more extreme.”

I noticed a lot of "May" and "could" words in there.

We have free trade agreements with a lot of countries and so far none of the above has happened.
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Don't forget teh gays!

I just checked we have agreements with a lot of countries mostly Australia and Asia but we have others in the pipeline these include Russia [put it's on hold because of Ukraine situation] and the Middle East.

So it seems most everyone wants to negotiate except Europe? I know we sell a heap to Europe anyway?
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