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HACKER MADE UNITED FLIGHT FLY SIDEWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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05/17/2015 09:48 AM
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From Wired article:

He obtained physical access to the networks through the Seat Electronic Box, or SEB. These are installed two to a row, on each side of the aisle under passenger seats, on certain planes. After removing the cover to the SEB by “wiggling and Squeezing the box,” Roberts told agents he attached a Cat6 ethernet cable, with a modified connector, to the box and to his laptop and then used default IDs and passwords to gain access to the inflight entertainment system. Once on that network, he was able to gain access to other systems on the planes.

Just don't let people next to you uncover the SEB and plug an ethernet cable into it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69218074


...got a question/observation...

Think about the physical requirements of doing this under-the-seat hardware juggling in today's jetliners...no knee room, and certainly little if any ability to go fiddling with things under your seat.

I'm wondering about the ergonomic reality of this scenario.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69155483


What people refuse to understand.. just because the two networks were separate does not mean one could not infiltrate the other.

It has been tested between two laptops that even audio undetectable to humans can transfer data. People have got to start thinking outside the box...

Besides - if this guy was that good with code who is to say he did not plug the cable in and configure what each wire did? To normal people who do not think outside the box like Watermellon - this is not possible.

Anything is possible if you put your mind to it. Must be a stupid 'fact-resistant' liberal that Watermellon. Always criticizing what he does not understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44860960


You have no idea what you're talking about. There is a system called "autothrottles." Each throttle is independently driven to whatever computer-predetermined position they individually need to be at. The two throttles are independent of the other, but there is a "comparator" system that compares the position of each. When they start to drive to "DIFFERENT" positions, the system turns the autothrottle system OFF. At that point they cannot be commanded anywhere except manually by the pilot. There is NO FUCKING WAY some yo-yo hacker in the back could EVER induce yaw in an airliner. NO. FUCKING. WAY. The guy is a liar. He's admitting to a crime that it is NOT POSSIBLE TO COMMIT.
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can you imagine the pilots faces?
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05/17/2015 09:53 AM
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05/17/2015 10:03 AM
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Most are wise enough to put at least a simple password on their home router/phones, yet a commercial airliner is wide open for anyone?



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Maybe, they just don't want anyone to know that the only ones capable of accessing those computer systems, are the creators of those systems and selected governments.
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05/17/2015 10:27 AM
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From Wired article:

He obtained physical access to the networks through the Seat Electronic Box, or SEB. These are installed two to a row, on each side of the aisle under passenger seats, on certain planes. After removing the cover to the SEB by “wiggling and Squeezing the box,” Roberts told agents he attached a Cat6 ethernet cable, with a modified connector, to the box and to his laptop and then used default IDs and passwords to gain access to the inflight entertainment system. Once on that network, he was able to gain access to other systems on the planes.

Just don't let people next to you uncover the SEB and plug an ethernet cable into it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69218074


...got a question/observation...

Think about the physical requirements of doing this under-the-seat hardware juggling in today's jetliners...no knee room, and certainly little if any ability to go fiddling with things under your seat.

I'm wondering about the ergonomic reality of this scenario.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69155483


What people refuse to understand.. just because the two networks were separate does not mean one could not infiltrate the other.

It has been tested between two laptops that even audio undetectable to humans can transfer data. People have got to start thinking outside the box...

Besides - if this guy was that good with code who is to say he did not plug the cable in and configure what each wire did? To normal people who do not think outside the box like Watermellon - this is not possible.

Anything is possible if you put your mind to it. Must be a stupid 'fact-resistant' liberal that Watermellon. Always criticizing what he does not understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44860960


You have no idea what you're talking about. There is a system called "autothrottles." Each throttle is independently driven to whatever computer-predetermined position they individually need to be at. The two throttles are independent of the other, but there is a "comparator" system that compares the position of each. When they start to drive to "DIFFERENT" positions, the system turns the autothrottle system OFF. At that point they cannot be commanded anywhere except manually by the pilot. There is NO FUCKING WAY some yo-yo hacker in the back could EVER induce yaw in an airliner. NO. FUCKING. WAY. The guy is a liar. He's admitting to a crime that it is NOT POSSIBLE TO COMMIT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5917739


No fucking way? You are the one who has no idea buddy - and sound like someone who would say we could never get to the moon.

Code is written by humans. Authorities or not - clearly if this guy can replicate his claim then it would be undeniably possible.

It is only impossible until it has been done.

Another one who believes everything they are told by 'manuals and training'. Meanwhile hackers laugh at those with ignorant views such as yours.
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05/17/2015 10:29 AM
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Most are wise enough to put at least a simple password on their home router/phones, yet a commercial airliner is wide open for anyone?



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Maybe, they just don't want anyone to know that the only ones capable of accessing those computer systems, are the creators of those systems and selected governments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41469394


Exactly - did the guy have any inside knowledge of their systems?
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05/17/2015 12:59 PM
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Easy to fly sideways. It's called yaw
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69248785


And too much of it will take an airliner's tail off - as what happened with the American crash shortly after 911.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5917739


hesright


Called "slipping" or to "slip" sideways.


This has a goal as an intention, more than likely to limit how much computer power one can carry on an plane.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41469394


Slipping is a totally different maneuver than yaw.
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It's more humane this way ya know, or burn on totem pole. Choice is yours.
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05/17/2015 01:07 PM
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Of COURSE it didn't happen. Pilots, crew, and passengers would've made news revealing that their flight was flying SIDEWAYS!

Jeez, can I sell you guys a bridge?
 Quoting: Basil Fawlty


He suggested he throttled one engine up enough to get the plane to yaw a bit. Not much. A bit.
I bet it was more along the lines of him claiming he could do it or maybe he said he did but was lying.
Could he do it? Yeah, I think he might could.
But what he described would be perceptible to him because he knew he was doing it.
But if you add 4 percent thrust to one engine it would be hard for anyone else to notice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69246900


Bingo!!
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It's more humane this way ya know, or burn on totem pole. Choice is yours.
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05/19/2015 06:24 AM
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05/22/2015 11:20 PM
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They now say 15-20 flights he hacked.

He did it for fun, cyber security expert who has a lot of vids out there.


Used a modified CAT6 to hack his seats entertainment system hookup.
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