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TODAY-5/22/15--Texas HB 483--TEXAS BULLION DEPOSITORY...in the face of a national financial or currency crisis.”

 
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Do these legislative nutters think Texans with gold are going to put it behind the nutters' locked door? The same nutters who went along with the Federal Reserve (See Dallas Fed) until it has become convenient not to? They were complicit in the Fed's theft and now they think this will settle the matter?


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48206225


Not familiar with nutters except for your short post. Current legislators have nothing to do with Dallas FED. The Fed confiscated gold and Texas wants to protect it's citizens.

Time to move on, Wendy Davis. Abbott kicked your ass.

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All the gold in a Texas Bullion Depository will suffer the same fate as the Ft. Knox gold and be stolen as well. Don't get sucked in.
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epiclol epiclol

Do these legislative nutters think Texans with gold are going to put it behind the nutters' locked door? The same nutters who went along with the Federal Reserve (See Dallas Fed) until it has become convenient not to? They were complicit in the Fed's theft and now they think this will settle the matter?

epiclol epiclol
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Not familiar with nutters except for your short post.
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You've just outed yourself, OP.
shill
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Do these legislative nutters think Texans with gold are going to put it behind the nutters' locked door? The same nutters who went along with the Federal Reserve (See Dallas Fed) until it has become convenient not to? They were complicit in the Fed's theft and now they think this will settle the matter?


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48206225


Not familiar with nutters except for your short post.
 Quoting: Hard Eight


You've just outed yourself, OP.
shill
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^^^That is full retard. You sound like a butthurt liberal in love with the FED.

Last Edited by Hard Eight on 05/21/2015 09:45 PM
Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may.
Sam Houston

"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
Thomas Jefferson

If you don't read the newspaper   
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read the newspaper you are   
misinformed. -- Mark Twain

Giving money and power to   
government is like giving whiskey   
and keys to teenage boys.   
-- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
 
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The people who want it to stay illigal arte the ones payed to say so from the people who currently make all the money.

Legal canabis will cut the income of some wealthy people.
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Cannabis is the answer.
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epiclol epiclol

Do these legislative nutters think Texans with gold are going to put it behind the nutters' locked door? The same nutters who went along with the Federal Reserve (See Dallas Fed) until it has become convenient not to? They were complicit in the Fed's theft and now they think this will settle the matter?

epiclol epiclol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48206225


Not familiar with nutters except for your short post.
 Quoting: Hard Eight


You've just outed yourself, OP.
shill
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^^^That is full retard. You sound like a butthurt liberal in love with the FED.
 Quoting: Hard Eight


Don't project your personal insecurity and lack of critical thinking on me. I'm not the one sounding like a butthurt Pharisee middleman pushing Americans into a phony alternative to the Fed. Neither the Fed or a State-Owned Texas bullion vault is the answer. Use your head.
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epiclol epiclol

Do these legislative nutters think Texans with gold are going to put it behind the nutters' locked door? The same nutters who went along with the Federal Reserve (See Dallas Fed) until it has become convenient not to? They were complicit in the Fed's theft and now they think this will settle the matter?

epiclol epiclol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48206225


Not familiar with nutters except for your short post.
 Quoting: Hard Eight


You've just outed yourself, OP.
shill
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^^^That is full retard. You sound like a butthurt liberal in love with the FED.
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Problem is a lot of liberals like their butts hurting lmao.
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I think it is a cool idea. I just dont see them getting alot of big depositors due to lack of trust in any currency/assett holding systems. And the type of people who hold bullion are those types not to trust at this current time.
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I think it is a cool idea. I just dont see them getting alot of big depositors due to lack of trust in any currency/assett holding systems. And the type of people who hold bullion are those types not to trust at this current time.
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Exactly. The bureaucracy needs a complete purge first. No more statist BS.
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Not familiar with nutters except for your short post.
 Quoting: Hard Eight


You've just outed yourself, OP.
shill
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^^^That is full retard. You sound like a butthurt liberal in love with the FED.
 Quoting: Hard Eight


Problem is a lot of liberals like their butts hurting lmao.
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Like you? Go put your gold in someone else's locked vault and see what happens to it. Or STFU. Your choice, libtard.
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I think it is a cool idea. I just dont see them getting alot of big depositors due to lack of trust in any currency/assett holding systems. And the type of people who hold bullion are those types not to trust at this current time.
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I may have misunderstood, but I don't think this is meant to be a safety deposit box for individuals. Rather, it is meant to be an alternative for the state and local governments to put their investments into physical gold (silver) rather than the current banking system. Instead, they will crate their own system that does not charge interest or fees and does not overreach it's balance sheet. It seems as though they intend to cut out the FED banks.

How could this be bad?
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I think it is a cool idea. I just dont see them getting alot of big depositors due to lack of trust in any currency/assett holding systems. And the type of people who hold bullion are those types not to trust at this current time.
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I may have misunderstood, but I don't think this is meant to be a safety deposit box for individuals. Rather, it is meant to be an alternative for the state and local governments to put their investments into physical gold (silver) rather than the current banking system. Instead, they will crate their own system that does not charge interest or fees and does not overreach it's balance sheet. It seems as though they intend to cut out the FED banks.

How could this be bad?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46317298


To clariy: state takes your tax dollars (credit) they buy bonds (debit)from a bank. The bond holder keeps that money (credit) and lends it back (credit to the state (debit) to build a road.
Instead, state takes your tax dollars, buys gold, pays for the road, only if they have enough gold.

Where's Saddletramp? How wrong is my understanding?
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Love your tag line
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And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.

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I think it is a cool idea. I just dont see them getting alot of big depositors due to lack of trust in any currency/assett holding systems. And the type of people who hold bullion are those types not to trust at this current time.
 Quoting: Integrity101


I may have misunderstood, but I don't think this is meant to be a safety deposit box for individuals. Rather, it is meant to be an alternative for the state and local governments to put their investments into physical gold (silver) rather than the current banking system. Instead, they will crate their own system that does not charge interest or fees and does not overreach it's balance sheet. It seems as though they intend to cut out the FED banks.

How could this be bad?
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Exactly! A way for public entities and others to diversify at least some of their reserves away from green paper. Liberals, Wall Street and statist hate the idea.
Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may.
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Thomas Jefferson

If you don't read the newspaper   
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read the newspaper you are   
misinformed. -- Mark Twain

Giving money and power to   
government is like giving whiskey   
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From the video:

Thirteen States have legislation pending to make bullion legal tender.
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That vid is from 2013, the vote is just coming up now?
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From the video:

Thirteen States have legislation pending to make bullion legal tender.
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That vid is from 2013, the vote is just coming up now?
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Texas vote is coming up now. Legislature only meets every other year and this session is about to close.
Video date inconsequential to subject matter, the pending legislation.

Seems financial transactions done through a bullion bank would cause the FED to consider stronger backing of it's paper, same as if China backed it's currency with hard assets.

Last Edited by Hard Eight on 05/21/2015 08:01 PM
Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may.
Sam Houston

"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
Thomas Jefferson

If you don't read the newspaper   
you are uninformed, if you do   
read the newspaper you are   
misinformed. -- Mark Twain

Giving money and power to   
government is like giving whiskey   
and keys to teenage boys.   
-- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
 
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They brought their gold back to Texas
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Sounds like a good idea, if...you can keep the Dick Swizzeling Feds from stealing it. yoda
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They brought their gold back to Texas
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Many others would diversify as well with the security that gold wouldn't be leased,rented,shorted,sold or used to create derivatives. NO FRACTIONAL RESERVES. One for one.
Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may.
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"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
Thomas Jefferson

If you don't read the newspaper   
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read the newspaper you are   
misinformed. -- Mark Twain

Giving money and power to   
government is like giving whiskey   
and keys to teenage boys.   
-- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
 
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any form of money is only worth the value people hold on it, and that is true for any object for that matter too. Most people have an affinity for gold over paper when afraid, but in the end, what matters is not what the money is, be it gold or paper, but what it represents, and that is the intangible of trust, of agreeing that it holds a value in the first place.

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Cannabis would generate trillions, for Texas, the US, and the whole planet. Cannabis would create a new economy where ever it is legalized. New jobs and industry growth, along with healing everyone. It can heal the planet.
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And turn everybody in useless zombied out idiots
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Thanks for the pine
Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may.
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"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
Thomas Jefferson

If you don't read the newspaper   
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Cannabis is the answer.
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bump
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Well that settles it. We're going to war with Texas. :O
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HB 483 would establish a TEXAS BULLION DEPOSITORY. This piece of legislation, in short, would create a mechanism for Texas and Texans to bring their gold and silver home to Texas and store them in a Texas-based system as opposed to a Federal Reserve created system.

“This proposal consists of two parts – the “depository” part and the “system” part. The “depository” part … provides simply for hedging the state’s investment risk by allocating a recommended portion of state and local investment assets to physical gold and other precious metals, and housing those metals in a state-operated facility….

“But the truly game-changing aspect of this proposal … lies in the “system” part. This would be an advanced, state-owned and operated system of electronic payments and settlements, denominated in ounces of precious metals, barred from engaging in lending, leasing, speculative or derivative transactions, and always maintaining a 100% ratio of bullion reserves to account balances. At full scale, not only could it sustain state and local government operations, it could potentially sustain large swaths of the Texas economy, even in the face of a national financial or currency crisis.”

Go to this link and find your Senator: "I live in your district and I want you to vote 'YES' on HB 1150 and HB 483. Thank you."

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Worth repeating:

At full scale, not only could it sustain state and local government operations, it could potentially sustain large swaths of the Texas economy, even in the face of a national financial or currency crisis.”
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Is Texas FINALLY starting its own state owned bank, like the one North Dakota has ? ND's bank pulled them through the 2008 recession
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Well that settles it. We're going to war with Texas. :O
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Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may.
Sam Houston

"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
Thomas Jefferson

If you don't read the newspaper   
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misinformed. -- Mark Twain

Giving money and power to   
government is like giving whiskey   
and keys to teenage boys.   
-- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
 





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