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Jade Helm theory: (double false-flag) "US secessionists, Pro-Russia Ukrainians and Russia"/"ISIS"

 
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Over the weekend, the pieces of this puzzle began joining together in my mind.


Texas and Russia

"Texas Secessionist Invited to Moscow and Seeks Russian Support for His Cause":
[link to www.interpretermag.com]

Russian article concerning the above:
[link to translate.google.com (secure)]

"Pro-Russian Ukrainian Separatists Are Aligning Themselves with Texas Secessionists":
[link to www.texasmonthly.com]

"Russian Ultranationalist Dugin Sparks Outrage in U.S. With Texas Lecture":
[link to www.rferl.org]


EDIT (significant article I've been looking for and just found again)
{
"Dukuvakha Abdurakhmanov urged Congress to abandon US imperialist ideas of greatness":
[link to translate.google.com (secure)]


"...It follows that the United States has no right to advise Russia to behave with neighboring friendly people. Supply of weapons Ukraine is perceived by us as a signal to the appropriate actions - we will begin delivery of new weapons Mexico to resume debate on the legal status of the territories annexed by the United States, which are now the US states of California, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, Colorado and Wyoming.

We reserve the right to carry out in Russia, Mexico, America conference with questions raised about the separation of the above-mentioned state of the US and to supply weapons to the guerrillas."


In relation to the above:

"Chechnya threatens to arm Mexico against US":
[link to www.cnbc.com]

} END EDIT



Enter ISIS

"ISIS could get their hands on a NUCLEAR weapon from Pakistan, warns Indian minister of defence
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

"Islamic State Nuclear Weapons: ISIS Claims It Can Smuggle Devices Through Nigeria, Mexico To The United States":
[link to www.ibtimes.com]



Summary analysis

The Federal Government treats state sovereignty movements as serious threats when they begin to gain traction. Recall the OKC bombing which occurred at the height of the sovereignty movement during the 90's which served to spread a chilling effect over the 'patriot' and state sovereignty movements.

One of the more significant options at the disposal of the Feds at this point in time, is using their ISIS asset as the 'boots on the ground' to perpetrate a major terrorist act within the USA. However, consider that the current administration is not prone to fighting ISIS, nor interested in demonizing Islam. Rather than blaming ISIS, the greater possibility is that such an attack would be blamed on USA secessionist movements working in tandem with Pro-Russia Ukrainians and Russia by proxy. ISIS could then be retained as a tool at their disposal. Plus, if the USA populace caught on to the scheme, the blame could be quickly shifted to ISIS - two layers of deception to mask the reality.

Military operations are typically multi-purpose. While I do not believe Jade Helm has a single goal beyond the generalization of 'conquering the human domain' within the USA, I do believe the above scenario is a high likelihood.

Through it, not only would Zbigniew Brzezinski and the Russia haters et al advising Obama get their wish of further heightened tensions between Russia and the United States, or perhaps an all-out war between them, but it would provide a pretext to crush the US sovereignty movements and crack down on dissent domestically.

All of this chaos could also potentially serve to obfuscate the real causes of economic failure - distract the populace from giving as much attention to a quickly unraveling economy, crash in bond markets, etc, and the public holding people accountable for it.

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could very well be...
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It's important to keep in mind that military operations often serve multiple strategic objectives.

I think one key in deciphering what might take place is to consider scenarios that serve a broad swath of globalist agendas in one swoop.

The above scheme could also be used as a pretext to extend Obama's time in office due to crisis.

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The 'double false-flag' also compensates for heightened public awareness of false-flags over the course of the past two decades.

Double cover-ups are an M.O. of TPTB. One example being Jack Ruby killing Oswald, and the subsequent killing of Ruby.

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Very real possibilities for everything you have stated. They are spending an unprecedented amount of effort and money on this operation for them not to have some nefarious goals towards their destruction of America and implementation of tyranny.
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More articles...

"Rebel 'foreign minister' of Donetsk looks to Texas for union of separatists
As Ukraine stops buying medicine for hospitals in the "People's Republic", its leaders search for allies on the world stage":
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

"Russia-backed rebels love Texas":
[link to www.chron.com]

"Donetsk People's Republic Has 'Full Support of Texas', Says Pro-Russian Rebel":
[link to europe.newsweek.com]
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Very significant article: (pardon the google translate weirdness)


"Dukuvakha Abdurakhmanov urged Congress to abandon US imperialist ideas of greatness":
[link to translate.google.com (secure)]


"...It follows that the United States has no right to advise Russia to behave with neighboring friendly people. Supply of weapons Ukraine is perceived by us as a signal to the appropriate actions - we will begin delivery of new weapons Mexico to resume debate on the legal status of the territories annexed by the United States, which are now the US states of California, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, Colorado and Wyoming.

We reserve the right to carry out in Russia, Mexico, America conference with questions raised about the separation of the above-mentioned state of the US and to supply weapons to the guerrillas."


In relation to the above:

"Chechnya threatens to arm Mexico against US":
[link to www.cnbc.com]

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This is all to hide the real force behind Jade Helm- China. Faced with the choice between defaulting on loans to China or giving up land and resource concessions within the US they will take the latter course. This will trigger the FF event to be blamed on militia groups and from there it's on. Disarmament soon to follow.
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This is all to hide the real force behind Jade Helm- China. Faced with the choice between defaulting on loans to China or giving up land and resource concessions within the US they will take the latter course. This will trigger the FF event to be blamed on militia groups and from there it's on. Disarmament soon to follow.
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Very real possibility. At this point in time China is the golden child of globalism, and a model for the future.

Any nation with a significant stake in future globalism probably has its hands in Jade Helm to some degree. Couple that with the fact that large strategic military operations serve multiple objectives, and it's plain to see that the answers to how it might unfold are in inclusive logic, not 'either/or', but 'and'.

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This is all to hide the real force behind Jade Helm- China. Faced with the choice between defaulting on loans to China or giving up land and resource concessions within the US they will take the latter course. This will trigger the FF event to be blamed on militia groups and from there it's on. Disarmament soon to follow.
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Yes, all the above & OP.

Look to dams, blamed on USA israel's ISIS.
In agenda 21 deadline from way back in NWO daddy bush days & each summit, UN treaty, etc DAVOS, is 2015. Pay attention, been out for decades.

And states dams remov d, back to land natural state, humans removed for rural or urban corporate work zones, TPP, UN North American Union.

Obamacare, immigration & all above mandate all U.S. citizens have bio metric identification, class 2 medical device.. Real I'd act too.

Then throw in the plaques psyops to sway sheep, mandatory vaccinations & done deal.. Also after disaster will state disease etc, need to get vaccinated, but will of course have sterilization effect..

Ie. By 2025 USA population they have planned down to 54 million
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Big bump. Well done! Putin's playing both sides- white nationalists in the US and Europe AND Muslims. These bikers taking the bait are traitorous and seditious and very useful idiots for the Soviet project.
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For more perspective on the Russian/secessionist element, here's a good article, and the video embedded within.

[link to freedomfighterreports.com (secure)]

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Big bump. Well done! Putin's playing both sides- white nationalists in the US and Europe AND Muslims. These bikers taking the bait are traitorous and seditious and very useful idiots for the Soviet project.
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Well, you're making a lot of assumptions about the bikers, but I suppose I can't exclude the possibility that some element within them was in on the collusion. FBI spooks, perhaps?


EDIT:

Then again, the police action against the bikers could have been part of exacerbating and sowing seeds of dissent among bikers, and as a propaganda piece in prep for the Jade Helm operation.

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This is all to hide the real force behind Jade Helm- China. Faced with the choice between defaulting on loans to China or giving up land and resource concessions within the US they will take the latter course. This will trigger the FF event to be blamed on militia groups and from there it's on. Disarmament soon to follow.
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Yes, all the above & OP.

Look to dams, blamed on USA israel's ISIS.
In agenda 21 deadline from way back in NWO daddy bush days & each summit, UN treaty, etc DAVOS, is 2015. Pay attention, been out for decades.

And states dams remov d, back to land natural state, humans removed for rural or urban corporate work zones, TPP, UN North American Union.

Obamacare, immigration & all above mandate all U.S. citizens have bio metric identification, class 2 medical device.. Real I'd act too.

Then throw in the plaques psyops to sway sheep, mandatory vaccinations & done deal.. Also after disaster will state disease etc, need to get vaccinated, but will of course have sterilization effect..

Ie. By 2025 USA population they have planned down to 54 million
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A Russian think tank has been promoting the idea of Russia targeting geophysically sensitive targets relative to USA. Technically that would include dams. Here's a thread I posted on it a while back.
Thread: Russian military strategists eye US geological targets - tying in Jade Helm, Walmart, and the NY Federal Reserve and NORAD move


Perhaps US will use a false-flag to begin engaging Russia so as to start the greater conflict on US's terms instead of on Russia's.

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FLASHBACK to 2014:



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'Texas', the volunteer is interviewed proclaiming himself a communist. The interview in conducted by a Latino man and takes place in Spanish. Piece this together with the above info in this thread, and the reality of the situation with Russia arming rebel groups in and outside of the USA in Mexico seems to become clearer. He mentions that other members of the "Essense of Time" brigade in Eastern Ukraine speak Spanish.



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I don't know about your theory,but good info either way, I didn't know about any of this. Five stars OP.
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To follow later!

Something to think about...
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This is all to hide the real force behind Jade Helm- China. Faced with the choice between defaulting on loans to China or giving up land and resource concessions within the US they will take the latter course. This will trigger the FF event to be blamed on militia groups and from there it's on. Disarmament soon to follow.
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Weird Sandy Hook/China connections too...
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Hey OP, here's another piece to your puzzle if you're into predictive programming.

Does anyone else find the timing of History Channel's new mini-series "TEXAS RISING" very suspect??????



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Hey OP, here's another piece to your puzzle if you're into predictive programming.

Does anyone else find the timing of History Channel's new mini-series "TEXAS RISING" very suspect??????



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That thought crossed my mind as well.

Here the biggest question being a Texan which side to choose in that scenario
I'm getting to the point where supporting the US Federal government in their actions is very hard. But concern about it existing on its own is real. Especially the concessions that would be expected from any country that helped.

Something to ponder.
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Big bump. Well done! Putin's playing both sides- white nationalists in the US and Europe AND Muslims. These bikers taking the bait are traitorous and seditious and very useful idiots for the Soviet project.
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it's the politicians and MSM who support NAZIS in Ukraine 100% dingus.

and Putin certainly doesn't support radical Islam either.

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Big bump. Well done! Putin's playing both sides- white nationalists in the US and Europe AND Muslims. These bikers taking the bait are traitorous and seditious and very useful idiots for the Soviet project.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6334978


it's the politicians and MSM who support NAZIS in Ukraine 100% dingus.

and Putin certainly doesn't support radical Islam either.

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you=FAIL
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Correct.

But it's worth mentioning geopolitics and assymetric warfare are very dirty games.

It's easy to recognize the filth on our side of the fence, but no matter how much more the current Russian culture appeals to US conservatives than the tripe witnessed in our own halls of power, Russia also has its own agendas. In war, all sides lie, deceive and backstab to achieve their goals. And probably in peace too.

Russia has its own interest just like any nation. Have no doubt that if given the opportunity, they would use foreign factions to achieve them, then betray them and pinch them off into the turd bowl and flush. That includes secessionists.

It's easy for Russia to look like it has the moral high ground when its competition is wallowing in a gutter and singing "I'm lovin' it".

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Big bump. Well done! Putin's playing both sides- white nationalists in the US and Europe AND Muslims. These bikers taking the bait are traitorous and seditious and very useful idiots for the Soviet project.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6334978


it's the politicians and MSM who support NAZIS in Ukraine 100% dingus.

and Putin certainly doesn't support radical Islam either.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

you=FAIL
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Correct.

But it's worth mentioning geopolitics and assymetric warfare are very dirty games.

It's easy to recognize the filth on our side of the fence, but no matter how much more the current Russian culture appeals to US conservatives than the tripe witnessed in our own halls of power, Russia also has its own agendas. In war, all sides lie, deceive and backstab to achieve their goals. And probably in peace too.

Russia has its own interest just like any nation. Have no doubt that if given the opportunity, they would use foreign factions to achieve them, then betray them and pinch them off into the turd bowl and flush. That includes secessionists.

It's easy for Russia to look like it has the moral high ground when its competition is wallowing in a gutter and singing "I'm lovin' it".
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here's the thing.

the NAZI coup d'état in Ukraine was 100% the creation of Soros, along with PNAC and the neo-cons while Putin was busy with the winter Olympics in Sochi. It is the US and NATO who have the agenda. (21)

Mr. Putin didn't schedule Jade Helm, the US Government did.

And it's feasible to see them paint all conservatives as dissenters or Russian sympathizers especially if WW3 breaks out.

Dissent will not be allowed during WW3 under the guise of "national security" which gives them the perfect opportunity to label anyone they don't like as "enemies of the state" or "traitors"

Why else would 98% of the Congress, 100% of the Senate and 100% of the MSM support an openly nazi Government in Kiev?
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It's important to keep in mind that military operations often serve multiple strategic objectives.

I think one key in deciphering what might take place is to consider scenarios that serve a broad swath of globalist agendas in one swoop.

The above scheme could also be used as a pretext to extend Obama's time in office due to crisis.
 Quoting: MonocyteOne



You got my attention on the "to extend Obama's time in office". I believe he is either trying to stay in office, or to create some type of higher power with the secret trade agreement.

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But it's worth mentioning geopolitics and assymetric warfare are very dirty games.

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and another thing..

it's entirely feasible to see Ukrainian Right Sector, Azov etc. NAZIS brought to Texas to play the part of "Russians".

Most of them speak Russian and how many in the United States could tell the difference?





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