TSA allowed 73 people on terrorist watch list to work at airports.

These terrorist TSAers must be laughing their asses off every time they frisk a 70yr old grandmas or toddlers....

Fox guarding the hen house....but we're suppose to believe the Gubmint is serious about our safety....

They are protecting travelers one bit.

Working for TSA is a sham job. On par with being a taxi cab driver. Useless.

aren't protecting us

AAAAAAAmerrricaaaaaaa!!!!!!


All those security measures are working great!

I want to know where they find these people they hire.

So many seem so ghetto.

I agree!!!

Fox watching the hen house?

Shortly after 9/11, not only did you have to go through security after ticketing, they also had security checks at the gate. At the gate, they hand inspected carry-on luggage after it had already passed through the x-ray security....picking up underwear, tossing clothes around, etc. Really annoying while other passengers looked on.

I was with my mom, who was 88 years old at the time. She was made to remove her shoes at the gate for the security guy to visually inspect her shoes! I was so angry, but, of course, couldn't show it. I was an employee for the airline involved! Mom's feet were swollen, and she could barely get her shoes back on.

It was obvious that the security guy was from the Middle East. I politely asked where he was from. He smiled and said, "Pakistan."

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Muslim brotherhood no doubt and hand selected by obama.

Why grandma/mom? Have they ever caught grandma yet with a bomb in her shoe? No!

You still see them pulling over grandpa (with a baffled look on his face) in his wheel chair to pat him down.
Disgusting!

At 80 years old my mom had to take off her shoes and get patted down...when they 'cleared' her, their next victim was a Nordic looking father with his two blonde little girls!

Also...what security checks are in place for those who work the food service on the planes? Just asking 'cuz back in the late 80's early 90's when I worked for the phone company in Dallas..Saw a lot of Sky Chef employees making calls back home to Iran and the Mideast.

Damn, almost nothing surprises me anymore these days!

What I find aggravation is that I, as a flight crew member, have to go through the same dance at security as the regular passenger even though I've had a 20 year background check by the FBI, they have my fingerprints on file and yet the ramp and catering employees just walk through a door to get to work. No security, they can bring items in a backpack that never gets searched and have access to parts of my aircraft that I'm not allowed to inspect.

There was a gang shoot out on the ramp in Philly a few years back. One gang against another, they had brought their guns right on to the ramp and were shooting at each other right next to aircraft. The solution? Separate the gang, put separate gangs in separate terminals. God forbid they fire anybody because they would be yelling discrimination I'm sure.

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What I find aggravation is that I, as a flight crew member, have to go through the same dance at security as the regular passenger even though I've had a 20 year background check by the FBI, they have my fingerprints on file and yet the ramp and catering employees just walk through a door to get to work. No security, they can bring items in a backpack that never gets searched and have access to parts of my aircraft that I'm not allowed to inspect.

There was a gang shoot out on the ramp in Philly a few years back. One gang against another, they had brought their guns right on to the ramp and were shooting at each other right next to aircraft. The solution? Separate the gang, put separate gangs in separate terminals. God forbid they fire anybody because they would be yelling discrimination I'm sure.


Scary, isn't it.

and then there is that" gate" that never gets locked...

I am sure there are NO CHECKS for the food service people. And let me tell you, the majority of them are Muslims. I'm a retired flight attendant. When they delivered the galley and I needed something, I couldn't communicate with them. They spoke no English. (They are not employed by the airlines.)

At Chicago's O'Hare, ALL airport employees are given cards to swipe to enter the airport parking lot gates in their cars. They are now in the "secure" airport area and free to enter any "secure" area of the airport including airplanes.

At Philadelphia International Airport, you park away from the airport in the employee lot. A shuttle drives you to the ticketing area. ALL the mechanics, baggage handlers, cleaners, TSA people, etc., WALK through a door near ticketing into the "secure" areas of the airport, including the airplanes. NO security measures are taken. What I never understood is WHY these workers carry large duffle bags with them. They are already wearing their work clothes.

Flight attendants are required to go through security scanning along with the passengers at Philly. I noticed flight attendants were also required to do the same when I visited San Diego this past Monday. All other workers except flight attendants get a free pass everywhere...no security checks. It's absurd.

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Where is the common sense?

Meh, George HW Bush assassinated a sitting president, yet he and TWO of his sons are allowed to be elected to office.

No common sense! I wish I could tell you what stupid "measures" we flight attendants were required to take before 9/11. Just stupid. I knew it would NOT prevent any terrorist attacks. When I questioned my supervisor and told him it made no sense, he was clueless...no common sense either. In other words...just do what the FAA tells us to do.

After 9/11, all employees were required to fill out new paperwork for "security." I filled mine out in an office at O'Hare International in Chicago. I could NOT believe it when I saw the question about one's ethnicity. Also, no question asking where you were born. No question on citizenship.

Choose one:

Caucasian
African/American
Asian
Hispanic

I understand that Middle Eastern people are sometimes referred to as "Asian," but I would have thought that one of the choices should have been "Middle Eastern."

Last Edited by nutmeg on 06/10/2015 05:42 PM

Scary, isn't it.


Uh Oh....you work where I did! I'm retired now, but still do a lot of pleasure flying.

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They must have all been politicians.

I don't get mad that much in public because I am a coward but I feel a very real sense of rage going through the TSA horseshit

take off your shoes take off your belt put your hands above your head so we can xray scan you

get fucked you turds!!!

if there was anyway to get out to California from the East Coast that didn't involve flying I would never fly

TSA isn't responsible for determining who works at the airport and/or who has access to the secured areas. The airport is run by the state and have their own people who are in charge of that. Just saying

nice OP

About 10 days ago, my 24 year-old son finally got a call from the TSA, asking him to come in for testing, two months after applying for a position at JFK.

Having passed the test, within a day he was called with an offer. Despite the fact that his heart sunk -having hoped the Coast Guard would call him first- he is hoping he gets called for the job.

As for me, I must admit that I am a bit worried that in the wake of all the TSA's problems, that this might not be the perfect career change for him at this point in time - no matter HOW much he wants to move ahead. Having been on GLP long enough to see how innocents become scapegoats, I can't help but wonder if the intense scrutiny he'll be under will somehow backfire.

The kid has been employed at the same large corporation since he got his working papers at 16, having risen in STATUS, without the correct pay-scale to show for it. So, as a parent might be prone to do, I have spent years suggesting he apply for a City, State, or Federal position, to: 1. get his foot in the door, and 2. then be able to move up on the chain.

And, being the good son that he is -approaching 25 and looking intensely to his future as a husband, dad, and eventual homeowner- he's taken my advice to heart.

After all my 'coaching', I'd hate to think that this very bright young man may wind up being the focus of the 'second-wave' of TSA scrutiny, as the case against their errs moves forward.

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All this said, I am interested to know what my colleagues on GLP might think about this.

For the first 6 months the position is only guaranteed 20 hours, during which he can 'pay-in', to include the great health benefits he already has at his current job.

His thinking is that with their pay-scale being 50% more than what he makes now, if he continues supplementing his income with the second job he already does in his spare time -messenger service in NYC- he will be on a better footing from the beginning, than he is right now.

He is also looking forward to being able to move up into better positions within government as time goes on.

Even though I have no intention of telling him my concerns, I know I have to continue the advice I've always taken with him: to move up the chain as early as he can manage it. Therefore, I must keep my concerns quiet, lest I derail him.

Both my parents held NYC government jobs: my mom a police-officer, my dad a tree surgeon. By the time they were in their late forties, they retired with full pension to the West Indies, and managed to raise a late-life child in paradise. Being fully aware of this history, he aims to aim for the same.

He's an amazing and capable guy, but I can't help but be a concerned parent, considering the TSA's debacle. I wonder if he'll stand out, as he's does at his current job, and be the focus of lawyers doing what lawyers do, when trying to prove their case.



Life seems to have a habit of backfiring on you sometimes, despite the thought and effort you've put in to achieve certain goals. That's MY LIFE; I don't want it to be his before he gets the chance to do well for himself.

Any comments would be appreciated!

thank you.

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I say he goes for it. He'll be smarter than 99% of them and will move up. They need more like him!

Thank you, nutmeg. Coming from you, this means a lot!