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Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl

 
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Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
A couple weeks ago, I took two before bedtime for allergies, and found that it took care of a lot more.

So I checked out the ingredients online and found this:

The clearest example of an unofficial SSRI is diphenhydramine, which is an old antihistamine with a sedative action, usually sold as a treatment for coughs and allergies (eg. one well-known formulation is called Benylin [Benadryl in USA]).

Diphenhydramine was, indeed, the root molecule from which fluoxetine/ Prozac was originally synthesized. It fulfils the pharmacological definition of an SSRI [and] should, on pharmacological grounds, be usable for the same indications.

[link to www.hedweb.com]

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Been using it every night. It costs about $3 for a month's worth at Wal-Mart.
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YES! When people "taper off" from heavy anti-depressants the severe side effects are most effectively combatted by either small doses of Prozac or ..drum roll.. Benadryl. They are essentially the same, in fact most report better results with Benadryl.
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Interesting. The major sedatives were discovered accidently by drug researchers looking for histamines.
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
errr...anti-histamines.
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
Paxil costs about $180 a month. My insurance won't pay.
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So you have to take them at night because of the sedative effect or does the non-drowsy formula work the same?
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
from Psychiatric Times:

We would also encourage the use of active placebos wherever possible. For example, an antihistamine like diphenhydramine (Benadryl) might mimic an antidepressant with sedative and anticholinergic properties. Caffeine might mimic a stimulating antidepressant such as fluoxetine (Prozac).
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
So you have to take them at night because of the sedative effect or does the non-drowsy formula work the same?
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A non-drowsy formula for Benadryl? Does one exist? I've never seen it.

It can't work as an antidepressant unless it contains diphenhydramine, according to the article:

[link to www.hedweb.com]
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
better and cheaper than prozac ??
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
Just reading this thread is causing me anxiety. ahhh
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Just reading this thread is causing me anxiety. ahhh
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Sorry about your anxiety. Sounded good to me.
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
haldol works too
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haldol works too
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But Haldol is prescription only.
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haldol works too


But Haldol is prescription only.
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There is a whole big world out there that you have no idea about.
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
Benadryl is fine, unless you need to stay awake...


Tagamet (for acid stomach) is Benadryl without the static...
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
they use benadryl for chemo patients
iv even
few side effects, very clean i guess

i always liked actifed for allergies
once you get past the drowsiness
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
Thanks for posting this!! I guess you would need to take it only at night. I do wonder if you could take St. John's Wort during the day, and then the generic Benadryl at night. One thing about the St. John's Wort though. If you are on birth controll pills, it can cause them to break down quicker than normal, which might allow an egg to be released. I guess it is not good to use if you are avoiding pregnancy.
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
Benadryl at night and St John's Wort by day.

I'm gonna try it.
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
Prozac in the morning is like an extra cup of coffee. Gives me a boost.

I'd like to try the Benadryl at night to fall asleep. (Too much on my mind, these days... know what I mean...?)

Great idea! Thanks!

Stan P.
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
Clinical evaluation of diphenhydramine hydrochloride for the treatment of insomnia in psychiatric patients: a double-blind study.

Kudo Y, Kurihara M.

Institute of Clinical Pharmacology, Aino Hospital, Osaka, Japan.

The usefulness of the antihistaminic agent diphenhydramine hydrochloride was evaluated using a double-blind procedure at sleeping doses of 12.5, 25, and 50 mg in 144 psychiatric patients with insomnia.

The general condition of the patients with insomnia was at least "slightly improved" in 62.5% (12.5-mg group), 60% (25-mg group), and 67.4% (50-mg group) after treatment with the test drug for 2 weeks. Side effects were observed in a total of 11 patients (7.6%) but were not severe.

No symptoms suggestive of drug dependence were evident.

Diphenhydramine hydrochloride thus appears to be effective in the treatment of insomnia, but the appropriate dosage will depend on previous medical treatment of insomnia.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
its a fucking alternative to a Rx sleeping pill is what it is.

too sedating, high affinity for histamine antagonism
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
Paxil costs about $180 a month. My insurance won't pay.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 141150


Have you tried paying the 180...on weed?
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
Yes, anti-histamines are the basic approach behind many sedative, tranquilizers and anti-depressants. Look fpr the benadryl to go the way of the cold medicines now behind the pharmacy counter but for a different reason. When too many people find out how they can possibly self-medicate and with probably a lot less side effects and possibly cheaper than prescription, the easy availability of anti-histamines will cease.
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
this is kinda true, kinda bullshit

diphenhydramine has a lot different profile than prozac

it has a lot more affinity for histamine and has more for anticholinergic activity

its the number one non-gaba related sleeping pill


Diphenhydramine is officaily indicated for 3 purposes

1) Allergy (Benedryl, Waldryl, etc)

2) insomnia (Tylenol PM, Unisom, Nytol)

3) motion sickness (largely replaced by dramamnine, which is a diphenhydramine melocue attached to another molecue so its the same fucking thing)
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
Have you ever tried benadryl...on weed?
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
I tried benadryl last night. Yeah, it really gave me a good night's sleep. I don't know if it was the good night's sleep or the medicine, but I feel good today. So I need to get some Saint Johns. Can I get it at walmart?
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they use benadryl for chemo patients
iv even
few side effects, very clean i guess

i always liked actifed for allergies
once you get past the drowsiness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 125023


I did chemo last January thru April and was told to take Claritin because it would help with any allergic reactions to the carboplatin and taxol treatment I was given. They would even administer claritin by IV before the other chemo meds. Usually about 30 minutes in the claritin would knock me out. Which was a good thing since the whole session usually lasted about 6-7 hours.
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
But is it safer than prozac?
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I tried benadryl last night. Yeah, it really gave me a good night's sleep. I don't know if it was the good night's sleep or the medicine, but I feel good today. So I need to get some Saint Johns. Can I get it at walmart?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 141566



Yes, You should be able to get it at Wal-Mart. I have gotten it there before. One more thing about St, John's Wort, It can make you more sun sensitive. Be sure to use sunscreen if you are going to be out for any length of time.
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
But is it safer than prozac?
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^ this fuckin idiot SKIMMED... skimmed 1 or 2 strange ackward tin foil webpages and he thinks prozac is not safe. god damn the people are are like hillbillies and hicks with mental retardation


prozac has no harmful effects - its just that it is an ineffective antidepressant that ends up making people feel worse.

benedryl wont help you either, by the way.
Yes it's close to Prozac.
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Re: Cheap, Safer, OTC Alternative to Prozac: Generic Benadryl
but, they both have been linked to heart problems and tachardia...

Maybe because they were orignially cogeners made from an insecticide used to kill helminths - a parasite of cattle.

People shouldn't supress histamines, because histamines have some sort of action to protect against cancer, hence people who have problems with high histamine levels in the blood, are much less likely to cause cancer...

The other alternative to anti histamines is to get essential fatty acids, from evening primrose oil, flax seed etc, or grass fed beef...





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