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Oklahoma State Supreme Court Rules Ten Commandments Monument Unconstitutional

 
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The Supreme Court ruled that the monument is unconstitutional and will be taken down.


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Wasn't there just a monument to Satan built right next to it not long ago?
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State of Oklahoma tells Supreme Court to fuck off
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yet they...the state...has no problem involving itself with marriage....a purely religious induced practice

no respect for laws here anymore

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It will get locked up in court and stay probably. I think they passed the Satan monument thing to and I believe they found away to keep it from going up or just didn't comply.
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Separation of Church and State has nothing to do with this. That phrase isn't even in any legal U.S. Documents, just coined by Thomas Jefferson in his personal letters to the Danbury Baptist Church. This is a first amendment issue and was decided using the Lemon Test

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Yes, this is another strike against the Christian Americans, in succession with the gay marriage ruling, but this isn't the end. You can move the monument to private land across from the capital if you want. This is just an overly disputed non issue that is better laid to rest.
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Separation of Church and State has nothing to do with this. That phrase isn't even in any legal U.S. Documents, just coined by Thomas Jefferson in his personal letters to the Danbury Baptist Church. This is a first amendment issue and was decided using the Lemon Test

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Yes, this is another strike against the Christian Americans, in succession with the gay marriage ruling, but this isn't the end. You can move the monument to private land across from the capital if you want. This is just an overly disputed non issue that is better laid to rest.
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What part of the 1st Amendment do you not understand?

Having ONLY a monument to the Ten Commandments looks as if the State is recognizing one religion. Thus, you either take it down, or--OH NO! welcome monuments to other religions.

This is the law. This is why we're not a shithole Middle Eastern theoracy, which you're always welcome to move to.
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Separation of Church and State has nothing to do with this. That phrase isn't even in any legal U.S. Documents, just coined by Thomas Jefferson in his personal letters to the Danbury Baptist Church. This is a first amendment issue and was decided using the Lemon Test

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Yes, this is another strike against the Christian Americans, in succession with the gay marriage ruling, but this isn't the end. You can move the monument to private land across from the capital if you want. This is just an overly disputed non issue that is better laid to rest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65419273


What part of the 1st Amendment do you not understand?

Having ONLY a monument to the Ten Commandments looks as if the State is recognizing one religion. Thus, you either take it down, or--OH NO! welcome monuments to other religions.

This is the law. This is why we're not a shithole Middle Eastern theoracy, which you're always welcome to move to.
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I think you read that way wrong.
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Oklahoma State Supreme Court Rules Ten Commandments Monument Unconstitutional


The Supreme Court ruled that the monument is unconstitutional and will be taken down.


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Really? Something that has probably been there since the founding of the state and is a foundation of Anglo-American jurisprudence, is now, 2015, suddenly found to be unconstitutional?
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so sick of the court rats
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Separation of Church and State has nothing to do with this. That phrase isn't even in any legal U.S. Documents, just coined by Thomas Jefferson in his personal letters to the Danbury Baptist Church. This is a first amendment issue and was decided using the Lemon Test

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Yes, this is another strike against the Christian Americans, in succession with the gay marriage ruling, but this isn't the end. You can move the monument to private land across from the capital if you want. This is just an overly disputed non issue that is better laid to rest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65419273


What part of the 1st Amendment do you not understand?

Having ONLY a monument to the Ten Commandments looks as if the State is recognizing one religion. Thus, you either take it down, or--OH NO! welcome monuments to other religions.

This is the law. This is why we're not a shithole Middle Eastern theoracy, which you're always welcome to move to.
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I think you read that way wrong.
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I didn't.
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"We're not a shithole Middle Eastern theoracy" because this country was founded on Christian family beliefs and values.

Everything's going to hell you say?

When did it start?

Back when we got away from those beliefs. Whether you believe in them personally or not is not an issue, but as a group/society, Christian Family values is just a good, wholesome, "be good to everyone and protect yourself" philosophy.
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"We're not a shithole Middle Eastern theoracy" because this country was founded on Christian family beliefs and values.

Everything's going to hell you say?

When did it start?

Back when we got away from those beliefs. Whether you believe in them personally or not is not an issue, but as a group/society, Christian Family values is just a good, wholesome, "be good to everyone and protect yourself" philosophy.
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This country was founded on freedom from religion persecution, which meant one could worship they way they wanted. This translated into the state not being able to recognize a state religion. This translates into the 1st Amendment--the very first clause of it--of our Constitution, to give you the idea of its importance in our Founders' minds.

Sorry, you don't get to rewrite history.
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Keep your arms open for Sharia Law and tell me how much you like that better.
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clappa Seperation of Church and State.
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Separation of Church and State has nothing to do with this. That phrase isn't even in any legal U.S. Documents, just coined by Thomas Jefferson in his personal letters to the Danbury Baptist Church. This is a first amendment issue and was decided using the Lemon Test

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Yes, this is another strike against the Christian Americans, in succession with the gay marriage ruling, but this isn't the end. You can move the monument to private land across from the capital if you want. This is just an overly disputed non issue that is better laid to rest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65419273


What part of the 1st Amendment do you not understand?

Having ONLY a monument to the Ten Commandments looks as if the State is recognizing one religion. Thus, you either take it down, or--OH NO! welcome monuments to other religions.

This is the law. This is why we're not a shithole Middle Eastern theoracy, which you're always welcome to move to.
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hesright
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Re: Oklahoma State Supreme Court Rules Ten Commandments Monument Unconstitutional
If it was Islamic would you complain as much?

No. So stop whining.
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Separation of Church and State has nothing to do with this. That phrase isn't even in any legal U.S. Documents, just coined by Thomas Jefferson in his personal letters to the Danbury Baptist Church. This is a first amendment issue and was decided using the Lemon Test

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Yes, this is another strike against the Christian Americans, in succession with the gay marriage ruling, but this isn't the end. You can move the monument to private land across from the capital if you want. This is just an overly disputed non issue that is better laid to rest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65419273


What part of the 1st Amendment do you not understand?

Having ONLY a monument to the Ten Commandments looks as if the State is recognizing one religion. Thus, you either take it down, or--OH NO! welcome monuments to other religions.

This is the law. This is why we're not a shithole Middle Eastern theoracy, which you're always welcome to move to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61010678



From a Secular view, the 10 commandants have been incorporated as part of a historical foundation of Anglo-American law. Read the written judicial opinion of Judges that were on the bench at during the creation of the U.S. the ten commandants are part of the law without explicitly recognizing one religion or another.
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The 7-2 ruling overturns a decision by a district court judge who determined the monument could stay. It prompted calls by a handful of Republican lawmakers for impeachment of the justices who said the monument must be removed.

Attorney General Scott Pruitt had argued that the monument was historical in nature and nearly identical to a Texas monument that was found constitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court. The Oklahoma justices said the local monument violated the state's constitution, not the U.S. Constitution. The Attorney General Office's has filed for a rehearing in the case.

Private funds were used to erect the monument in 2012. Since then, others have asked for space, including a Nevada Hindu leader, animal rights advocates, the satirical Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and a group pushing for a Satan statue.


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Satan


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