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The Bible's Moses Was On DMT Says Hebrew Professor

 
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"It's not only possible, but plausible that Moses' legendary encounter with the ever burning bush, his conversation with Yahweh, and the bestowing of the Torah could have happened to him while he was under the influence of DMT, according to professor of cognitive psychology at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Benny Shanon.

""It seems logical that something was altered in people's consciousness. There are other stories in the Bible that mention the use of plants: for example, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden," said Shanon. "The use of such substances, most of which fall in our contemporary Western culture under the label “drug,” has in many traditions been considered sacred."
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we are all on it.

we naturally secrete it from our pineal gland.

it peaks at birth and death, and around smaller peaks around 3am during our natural circadian rhythyms.

by current drug law, we are ALL illegal cause we contain a schedule one drug in our bodies. in varying amounts

see rick strassman's "spirit molecule' for medical studies done on DMT and the results.

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Well, Moses was a lawless one, there is no doubt.

The thievin' bastard..
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Addendum to " The Spirit Molecule; by Rick Strassman

"I did my best in the DMT book to differentiate between what is known, and what I was conjecturing about (based upon what is known), regarding certain aspects of DMT dynamics. However, it's amazing how ineffective my efforts seem to have been. So many people write me, or write elsewhere, about DMT, and the pineal, assuming that the things I conjecture about are true. When I was writing the book, I thought I was clear enough, and repeating myself would have gotten tedious.

"We don't know whether DMT is made in the pineal. I muster a lot of circumstantial evidence supporting a reason to look long and hard at the pineal, but we do not yet know. There are data suggesting urinary DMT rises in psychotic patients when their psychosis is worse. However, we don't know whether DMT rises during dreams, meditation, near-death, death, birth or any other endogenous altered state. To the extent those states resemble those brought on by giving DMT, it certainly makes one wonder if endogenous DMT might be involved, and if it were, it would explain a lot. But we don't know yet. Even if the pineal weren't involved, that would have little overall effect on my theories regarding a role for DMT in endogenous altered states, because we do know that the gene involved in DMT synthesis is present in many organs, particularly lung. If the pineal made DMT, it would tie up a lot of loose ends regarding this enigmatic little organ. But people seem to live pretty normals lives without a pineal gland; for example, when it has had to be removed because of a tumor.

"In both these regards--the pineal-DMT connection, and endogenous DMT dynamics--we ought to know a lot more within the next several years due to the efforts of a research group being led by Steven Barker at Louisiana State University. He, with his grad student Ethan McIlhenny, are developing a new super-assay for DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, bufotenine, and metabolites. This assay will be capable of detecting those compounds much more sensitively than previous generations of assays. They're looking at endogenous levels in awake sober normals, to assess baseline values of these compounds. We should have some data from those samples within a year. They also will be looking at pineal tissue. Once we have some baseline data in normal humans in normal waking consciousness, comparisons can be made between those levels and levels in endogenous altered states, like dreams, near-death, and so on."
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So the Creator of the Universe isn't capable of miracles?

F off hippies.
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So the Creator of the Universe isn't capable of miracles?

F off hippies.
 Quoting: JIK


The creator of the universe is in our heads, just like every other aspect of our interaction with this "reality."
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So the Creator of the Universe isn't capable of miracles?

F off hippies.
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The creator of the universe is in our heads, just like every other aspect of our interaction with this "reality."
 Quoting: Em18966


Moses stole Genesis. Chapters 1-11 anyhow.
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So are most who follow organized religion literally.
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So the Creator of the Universe isn't capable of miracles?

F off hippies.
 Quoting: JIK


The creator of the universe is in our heads, just like every other aspect of our interaction with this "reality."
 Quoting: Em18966


Nope
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So the Creator of the Universe isn't capable of miracles?

F off hippies.
 Quoting: JIK


The creator of the universe is in our heads, just like every other aspect of our interaction with this "reality."
 Quoting: Em18966


Nope
 Quoting: JIK


Prove otherwise.
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So the Creator of the Universe isn't capable of miracles?

F off hippies.
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DMT is a miracle, just look at its chemical structure.

more about DMT.

in mammals[edit]

Published in Science in 1961, Julius Axelrod found an N-methyltransferase enzyme capable of mediating biotransformation of tryptamine into DMT in a rabbit's lung.[17] This finding initiated a still ongoing scientific interest in endogenous DMT production in humans and other mammals.[18][24] From then on, two major complementary lines of evidence have been investigated: localization and further characterization of the N-methyltransferase enzyme, and analytical studies looking for endogenously produced DMT in body fluids and tissues.[18]

In 2013 researchers first reported DMT in the pineal gland microdialysate of rodents.[25]

A study published in 2014 reported the biosynthesis of N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT) in the human melanoma cell line SK-Mel-147 including details on its metabolism by peroxidases.[26]

In a 2014 paper a group first demonstrated the immunomodulatory potential of DMT and 5-MeO-DMT through the Sigma-1 receptor of human immune cells. This immunomodulatory activity may contribute to significant anti-inflammatory effects and tissue regeneration.[27]

INMT[edit]
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So the Creator of the Universe isn't capable of miracles?

F off hippies.
 Quoting: JIK


The creator of the universe is in our heads, just like every other aspect of our interaction with this "reality."
 Quoting: Em18966


Nope
 Quoting: JIK


Prove otherwise.
 Quoting: Em18966


Look around
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Methuselah lived nine hundred, sixty, and nine 'years'(969); then he died.


The narrative of Jesus' crucifixion and death refers to the sixth and ninth 'hours':

Now when the sixth hour had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour. And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice … and breathed His last.
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So the Creator of the Universe isn't capable of miracles?

F off hippies.
 Quoting: JIK


what he said.
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I believe it, and this is coming from someone who has only done "low-dose" DMT sessions. The first time was considered a "breakthrough dose", but within 10-15 seconds of my first hit, loaded with 50mg, it was starting to hit me and hit me hard, harder than anything else I have taken before. I had to put the pipe down, because I knew it was going to be an intense ride.

The ringing noise that you hear, and I could of sworn I heard some kind of humming/song noise too; when I closed my eyes, what I saw was a black void, but with like green plasma floating around, then it appeared that I was in some sort of room, and I think it was the "Folding Room" that a lot of other people have reported seeing before too. Then, on my right side of my shoulder, floating above me, but past my head, it was really up there, was this white orb, in a stationary position, not moving or anything. I was about to look directly into it, but after reading so much about avoiding the lighting upon death, I quickly looked away... Only to find out later, that white orb is supposedly your higher self/guide/some sort of healing energy. lol That was pretty much all I experienced, for that session, and have never returned to it again.

Too intense!

Still, even low dose can be pretty intense, but not unbearable to handle, it's very therapeutic, especially when done outside, sitting under the sun, and looking up into the sun, but with the eyelids closed, just gorgeous fractal patterns, and this feeling of floating above your body, it's kind of like someone is rocking you back and forth, or just imagine being a feather and slowly blowing in the wind. With euphoric rushes, it's like instant nirvana, you just don't want to leave the state at all, I could be in it for hours if I could. When you come down, the afterglow/mood lift is just incredible, you just feel at one with everything.

If you open your eyes, things take on a high def/3d like appearance, plants and trees have a completely different look, it can be somewhat intimidating, hence I always keep my eyes close during a session.

Folding Rooms

The multidimensional spaces that certain hyperspace beings often entangle, enmesh, and overlap travellers in. They actually seem to fold over & in on themselves and the observer viscerally... reaching behind and around one with their architecture.



we are all on it.

we naturally secrete it from our pineal gland.


it peaks at birth and death, and around smaller peaks around 3am during our natural circadian rhythyms.

by current drug law, we are ALL illegal cause we contain a schedule one drug in our bodies. in varying amounts

see rick strassman's "spirit molecule' for medical studies done on DMT and the results.
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Yes, but there is a big difference between the naturally produced DMT, and freebasing DMT crystals on some damiana leaf. Seriously.. Just trust me on that one. Oh. My. God.

damned
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So the Creator of the Universe isn't capable of miracles?

F off hippies.
 Quoting: JIK


The creator of the universe is in our heads, just like every other aspect of our interaction with this "reality."
 Quoting: Em18966


All that means is you think the creator is you. Solipsism. And such a lousy creator.

Born out of nothing and will go back to nothing unceremoniously. A blip of temporary existence in a Meaningless universe.
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The creator of the universe is in our heads, just like every other aspect of our interaction with this "reality."
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Nope
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Prove otherwise.
 Quoting: Em18966


Look around
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I do. I believe it's a product of the DMT LOL
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So the Creator of the Universe isn't capable of miracles?

F off hippies.
 Quoting: JIK


The creator of the universe is in our heads, just like every other aspect of our interaction with this "reality."
 Quoting: Em18966


All that means is you think the creator is you. Solipsism. And such a lousy creator.

Born out of nothing and will go back to nothing unceremoniously. A blip of temporary existence in a Meaningless universe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69652021


Just like everything else - and temporary doesn't mean meaningless.

The most precious things are those that are fleeting.
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Nope
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Prove otherwise.
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Look around
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I do. I believe it's a product of the DMT LOL
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try banging your head against a rock or walking through a wall
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In his Image...originate with Moses ?? No.

All about the reflecting pool of the great pyramid at giza.

Moses stole ancient texts and adapted them for his purposes.


Now did Mr. Moses understand ? Yes, he absolutely understood.
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Why not find his tomb and test him.
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OP just give up already

We all know you hate Christians, just put it in your profile and spare us please.
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Very Interesting,

I also remember a very similar story about how some believe that much of them in the Bible were taking Red with White Spotted, Highly Hallucinogenic, Amanita Muscaria Mushrooms.

Some of the story was about how that was really what the "Manna" from heaven supposedly really was.

I'll see if I can find it, probably tomorrow though

I've got to get to bed really soon now.

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98% of other Hebrew professors will say the OT is true, but OP doesn't want to hear that...


Hypocrisy?
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bump

for intellectual DMT discussion nothing else
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The creator of the universe is in our heads, just like every other aspect of our interaction with this "reality."
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Nope
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Prove otherwise.
 Quoting: Em18966


Look around
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69701124


but all the processing and rendering occurs in your brain, you believe it is occuring outside of you, it's a projection.
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Moses stole the ark of the covenant from an egyptian pyramid.
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Exodus 32:20

He took the calf that they had made and burned it with fire and ground it to powder and scattered it on the water and made the people of Israel drink it.





As an alchemist let me just tell you that Alchemy was a Primitive form of Chemistry, Nanotechnology and Biological Engineering.


It still seems almost magical to the people of today...
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Moses stole the ark of the covenant from an egyptian pyramid.
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The Egyptian Pyramids were build by the Anunnaki.

Moses is a follower of the Anunnaki Enlil who the Hebrew call Yahweh.


Enlil is at war with Marduk, they call him the Adversary or Satan.


Marduk was the Leader of the Empire of Babylon.

His people were building the Tower of Babel and that is when Enlil came and destroyed it.





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