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Mr. NorM  (OP)

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yeah right.
how'd ya wind up with libtardia in charge ?

it's a damn shame the assholes and MASSholes recreated NH.
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Are you close enough to bring those guys a case of water?
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Sad state of affairs when you feel the need to defend anything with firearms. I thought this was the land of the free not some war-torn African hellhole.
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From your statement it seems that you are one for banning guns from America (I know, I inferred, but kinda hard not to).

If so, maybe you're too young to understand, or too inundated with MSM propaganda to think rationally, but we do live in a violent world. One in which those freedoms you seem to hold dear have been defended time and again through the use of violent force (including firearms).

Whether you like it or not, there are people in this world (and this country apparently) that abhore our freedoms. They hate the fact that we have been able to freely speak our minds (until recently, wonder how that's happened), and would love nothing better than to see us implode upon ourselves, to fail and go away so they can carry on with their delusion of control unimpeded.

The question you have to ask yourself is simple. Do you wish for a nanny state of power-tripping bureaucrats with the tyrannical force of arms behind them telling you what to do every day of your life, monitoring your every move, and waiting for you step out of their delusional/irrational line? Or, do you want true freedom as was envisioned by our founding fathers and embodied in our constitution (before they twisted it to their selfish ends)?

There is plenty of evidence today of what happens to countries and their people when they acquiesce to the former, so if you want this instead of the latter, please move to one of those bastions. Otherwise, stand firm in your convictions, join those that speak in support of the latter, and defend your rights - all of them, including your right to bear arms. If you are unable or unwilling to do so, at least support those that are willing. One day, you will be glad that you did.
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Every time I see people post about how military or pseudo military police "defend your freedom" I have to LOL.

Just so it's clear, i defend my own home, family and freedoms the police and military are not only actively involved with the destruction of all the above, they are the force used by their banker/political overlords to actually do the dirty work.

Those few who actually do uphold their oaths simply do not last as employees of the Corporations they get their checks from, as such, their numbers are near zero in actual service.

Stand up to the real enemy and get cut down professionally or personally, that is the way things are, military or not, the good guys are all in the same small boat.

We all need to stand up and stop complying or enforcing ALL UNCONSTITUTIONAL ORDERS OR RULES. Not just those about "guns".
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Curious, what personal freedom has a US Servicemember taken from you?

And could you share exactly what Oath it is they make and how they are not honoring it?

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Every time I see people post about how military or pseudo military police "defend your freedom" I have to LOL.

Just so it's clear, i defend my own home, family and freedoms the police and military are not only actively involved with the destruction of all the above, they are the force used by their banker/political overlords to actually do the dirty work.

Those few who actually do uphold their oaths simply do not last as employees of the Corporations they get their checks from, as such, their numbers are near zero in actual service.

Stand up to the real enemy and get cut down professionally or personally, that is the way things are, military or not, the good guys are all in the same small boat.

We all need to stand up and stop complying or enforcing ALL UNCONSTITUTIONAL ORDERS OR RULES. Not just those about "guns".
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Curious, what personal freedom has a US Servicemember taken from you?

And could you share exactly what Oath it is they make and how they are not honoring it?
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Curious, I never posted one word about personal freedom being taken by a serviceman.

I have been unlawfully arrested by police and not one damn service man defended me. They were too busy protecting the poopy fields I suppose.

I don't see any military people arresting their commander and chief for his known high crimes and misdemeanors or even refusing to obey unlawful orders that come from him.

Until you can, my post stands, but thanks for deflecting by putting words in my post that were not there.
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Every time I see people post about how military or pseudo military police "defend your freedom" I have to LOL.

Just so it's clear, i defend my own home, family and freedoms the police and military are not only actively involved with the destruction of all the above, they are the force used by their banker/political overlords to actually do the dirty work.

Those few who actually do uphold their oaths simply do not last as employees of the Corporations they get their checks from, as such, their numbers are near zero in actual service.

Stand up to the real enemy and get cut down professionally or personally, that is the way things are, military or not, the good guys are all in the same small boat.

We all need to stand up and stop complying or enforcing ALL UNCONSTITUTIONAL ORDERS OR RULES. Not just those about "guns".
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Curious, what personal freedom has a US Servicemember taken from you?

And could you share exactly what Oath it is they make and how they are not honoring it?
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Curious, I never posted one word about personal freedom being taken by a serviceman.

I have been unlawfully arrested by police and not one damn service man defended me. They were too busy protecting the poopy fields I suppose.

I don't see any military people arresting their commander and chief for his known high crimes and misdemeanors or even refusing to obey unlawful orders that come from him.

Until you can, my post stands, but thanks for deflecting by putting words in my post that were not there.
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Unlawfuly arrested ehh? Do explain...
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Mr. NorM  (OP)

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Every time I see people post about how military or pseudo military police "defend your freedom" I have to LOL.

Just so it's clear, I defend my own home, family and freedoms the police and military are not only actively involved with the destruction of all the above, they are the force used by their banker/political overlords to actually do the dirty work.

Those few who actually do uphold their oaths simply do not last as employees of the Corporations they get their checks from, as such, their numbers are near zero in actual service.

Stand up to the real enemy and get cut down professionally or personally, that is the way things are, military or not, the good guys are all in the same small boat.

We all need to stand up and stop complying or enforcing ALL UNCONSTITUTIONAL ORDERS OR RULES. Not just those about "guns".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69207468


Curious, what personal freedom has a US Servicemember taken from you?

And could you share exactly what Oath it is they make and how they are not honoring it?
 Quoting: ThereRMeds4That

Curious, I never posted one word about personal freedom being taken by a serviceman.

I have been unlawfully arrested by police and not one damn service man defended me. They were too busy protecting the poopy fields I suppose.

I don't see any military people arresting their commander and chief for his known high crimes and misdemeanors or even refusing to obey unlawful orders that come from him.

Until you can, my post stands, but thanks for deflecting by putting words in my post that were not there.
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hmm
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ThereRMeds4That

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Every time I see people post about how military or pseudo military police "defend your freedom" I have to LOL.

Just so it's clear, i defend my own home, family and freedoms the police and military are not only actively involved with the destruction of all the above, they are the force used by their banker/political overlords to actually do the dirty work.

Those few who actually do uphold their oaths simply do not last as employees of the Corporations they get their checks from, as such, their numbers are near zero in actual service.

Stand up to the real enemy and get cut down professionally or personally, that is the way things are, military or not, the good guys are all in the same small boat.

We all need to stand up and stop complying or enforcing ALL UNCONSTITUTIONAL ORDERS OR RULES. Not just those about "guns".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69207468


Curious, what personal freedom has a US Servicemember taken from you?

And could you share exactly what Oath it is they make and how they are not honoring it?
 Quoting: ThereRMeds4That

Curious, I never posted one word about personal freedom being taken by a serviceman.

I have been unlawfully arrested by police and not one damn service man defended me. They were too busy protecting the poopy fields I suppose.

I don't see any military people arresting their commander and chief for his known high crimes and misdemeanors or even refusing to obey unlawful orders that come from him.

Until you can, my post stands, but thanks for deflecting by putting words in my post that were not there.
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The implication was very much there, as it also is in your reply when you explain being unlawfully arrested by LEO, yet apparently expecting a fire team of Marines to come to your defense before the handcuffs are closed.

There's a HUGE difference in an "unlawful" order and one that is simply based on poor judgement or nefarious political reasons. The American citizens elect the government officials.

Until the President is found lawfully guilty of something how could they arrest him, and why exactly would arresting him be the military's responsibility wouldn't that fall to the Sgt at Arms or perhaps a law enforcement entity.
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Sad state of affairs when you feel the need to defend anything with firearms. I thought this was the land of the free not some war-torn African hellhole.
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You really should go to a doctor and have that checked.
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Every time I see people post about how military or pseudo military police "defend your freedom" I have to LOL.

Just so it's clear, i defend my own home, family and freedoms the police and military are not only actively involved with the destruction of all the above, they are the force used by their banker/political overlords to actually do the dirty work.

Those few who actually do uphold their oaths simply do not last as employees of the Corporations they get their checks from, as such, their numbers are near zero in actual service.

Stand up to the real enemy and get cut down professionally or personally, that is the way things are, military or not, the good guys are all in the same small boat.

We all need to stand up and stop complying or enforcing ALL UNCONSTITUTIONAL ORDERS OR RULES. Not just those about "guns".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69207468


Curious, what personal freedom has a US Servicemember taken from you?

And could you share exactly what Oath it is they make and how they are not honoring it?
 Quoting: ThereRMeds4That

Curious, I never posted one word about personal freedom being taken by a serviceman.

I have been unlawfully arrested by police and not one damn service man defended me. They were too busy protecting the poopy fields I suppose.

I don't see any military people arresting their commander and chief for his known high crimes and misdemeanors or even refusing to obey unlawful orders that come from him.

Until you can, my post stands, but thanks for deflecting by putting words in my post that were not there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69207468


The implication was very much there, as it also is in your reply when you explain being unlawfully arrested by LEO, yet apparently expecting a fire team of Marines to come to your defense before the handcuffs are closed.

There's a HUGE difference in an "unlawful" order and one that is simply based on poor judgement or nefarious political reasons. The American citizens elect the government officials.

Until the President is found lawfully guilty of something how could they arrest him, and why exactly would arresting him be the military's responsibility wouldn't that fall to the Sgt at Arms or perhaps a law enforcement entity.
 Quoting: ThereRMeds4That

Your belief that the people have any say at all in elections on a national level shows how insanely confused you are.

Your belief the President (any president) can lawfully act outside narrowly defined constitutional limits shows you do not know what a lawful order even consists of.

For example, please show me in the Constitution where exactly it is lawful to have a standing army?

When you can, we can continue.

Or, just continue with your false premise the US military defends my or anyone's creator endowed and lawful protected freedom.

If the military did that, there would be no need for them to have armed civilians guarding them right this minute. They cannot even defend their own lives because they are too concerned with obeying a clearly unlawful order to be stripped of their fundamental right to keep and beat arms for their own defense!

Care to continue?
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In response to above post: For example, please show me in the Constitution where exactly it is lawful to have a standing army?


Article 1, Section 8, Clause 12.

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The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States (I cut here as it was irrelevant to discussion)

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;


Edited to add previous posters question.

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In response to above post: For example, please show me in the Constitution where exactly it is lawful to have a standing army?


Article 1, Section 8, Clause 12.

[link to www.heritage.org]



The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States (I cut here as it was irrelevant to discussion)

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;


Edited to add previous posters question.
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Wrong, look up the definition of a "standing army" because such is not authorized in that section.

Or are you too ignorant to read definitions?

I used to be suprised at the utter ignorance of persons in the USA but it does not phase me anymore.

[link to www.heritage.org]

Maybe you can learn something from that.
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In response to above post: For example, please show me in the Constitution where exactly it is lawful to have a standing army?


Article 1, Section 8, Clause 12.

[link to www.heritage.org]



The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States (I cut here as it was irrelevant to discussion)

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;


Edited to add previous posters question.
 Quoting: ThereRMeds4That

Wrong, look up the definition of a "standing army" because such is not authorized in that section.

Or are you too ignorant to read definitions?

I used to be suprised at the utter ignorance of persons in the USA but it does not phase me anymore.

[link to www.heritage.org]

Maybe you can learn something from that.
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Seriously??? The definition of a "standing army", (noun); a permanent army maintained by a Nation in times of war and peace. Did YOU read the attached article?

From your link: "Nonetheless, both Federalists and Anti-Federalists alike expressed concerns about a standing army, as opposed to a navy or the militia. Accordingly, this is the only clause related to military affairs that includes a time limit on appropriations. The appropriations power of Congress is a very powerful tool, and one that the Framers saw as particularly necessary in the case of a standing army."

So they created a standing army, one that could be maintained during peacetime with Congressional support and are attempting to keep it in check by requiring that Congress approve a budget that extends no more than two years out. The US Military (a standing army) operates on yearly budgets!
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In response to above post: For example, please show me in the Constitution where exactly it is lawful to have a standing army?


Article 1, Section 8, Clause 12.

[link to www.heritage.org]



The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States (I cut here as it was irrelevant to discussion)

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;


Edited to add previous posters question.
 Quoting: ThereRMeds4That

Wrong, look up the definition of a "standing army" because such is not authorized in that section.

Or are you too ignorant to read definitions?

I used to be suprised at the utter ignorance of persons in the USA but it does not phase me anymore.

[link to www.heritage.org]

Maybe you can learn something from that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69207468


Seriously??? The definition of a "standing army", (noun); a permanent army maintained by a Nation in times of war and peace. Did YOU read the attached article?

From your link: "Nonetheless, both Federalists and Anti-Federalists alike expressed concerns about a standing army, as opposed to a navy or the militia. Accordingly, this is the only clause related to military affairs that includes a time limit on appropriations. The appropriations power of Congress is a very powerful tool, and one that the Framers saw as particularly necessary in the case of a standing army."

So they created a standing army, one that could be maintained during peacetime with Congressional support and are attempting to keep it in check by requiring that Congress approve a budget that extends no more than two years out. The US Military (a standing army) operates on yearly budgets!
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Sorry for the double post, don't know how I did that! hf
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I'm all for this -

Yet..

What if this is to get us "use" to seeing men standing in shopping centers/malls with M4A1 carbines slung around their necks

You know, how we call those "Crazy eastern countries" crazy - because we'd NEVER see check points in America with men holding rifles...

right?



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I'm all for this -

Yet..

What if this is to get us "use" to seeing men standing in shopping centers/malls with M4A1 carbines slung around their necks

You know, how we call those "Crazy eastern countries" crazy - because we'd NEVER see check points in America with men holding rifles...

right?



right...
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I don't really have an issue with that. If your doing nothing wrong, then you have nothing to worry about.

When they start infringing on our rights, then we have bigger issues.

There are lots of places I would like to see armed guards. Schools are my number 1 concern.
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Fuck
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Army decides recruiting stations should consider militia- men hostile...
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