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California: Of the 883,000 drivers licenses issued from Jan-July, 443,000 were to undocumented immigrants

 
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California: Of the 883,000 drivers licenses issued from Jan-July, 443,000 were to undocumented immigrants
California Effort to Issue Driver’s Licenses to Immigrants Receives Surge of Applicants

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Even now, months after the program went into effect, lines regularly begin at the Department of Motor Vehicles in Los Angeles by 6 a.m., a sign of the continuing changes in the state’s population. D.M.V. officials predict that they will issue nearly 1.5 million licenses to undocumented immigrants within three years. Of the 883,000 total licenses issued from January to the end of July, 443,000 were granted to undocumented immigrants, the officials said.



Many in the state applaud the license program, as well as other efforts by California to integrate undocumented immigrants into the economy, saying it simply reflects the demographic reality. California is home to nearly three million illegal immigrants, 40 percent of all such immigrants in the country. More than half of the state’s residents are immigrants or children of immigrants, with Latinos making up the largest ethnic group.

While an overhaul of the nation’s immigration laws has languished in Congress, many undocumented immigrants have established themselves in California over decades. Thanks to recent legislative measures, they can receive financial aid and student loans to attend state universities and can be approved to practice more than 40 professions, including law, architecture and dentistry.



But critics say that with measures like the driver’s license program, the state is interfering with federal policy. They argue that such laws will only entice more immigrants to enter the country illegally, increasing the need for public spending.

“It creates even more of a magnet in what is already basically a sanctuary state,” said Joe Guzzardi, a spokesman for Californians for Population Stabilization, which advocates stricter immigration policies. “These are very tangible rewards to people who have knowingly and willingly violated the law.”



Under the budget approved this year, children from low-income families, regardless of their immigration status, will receive subsidized health care. Lawmakers are also considering legislation to allow undocumented immigrants to pay for health insurance through the state’s public exchange. And a bill that would give agricultural workers permits and protect them from deportation, the kind of policy that has historically been in the federal domain, cleared its first legislative hurdle with nearly unanimous support. Huntington Park, a suburb of Los Angeles, is moving this week to appoint undocumented immigrants to two unpaid advisory board positions.


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Re: California: Of the 883,000 drivers licenses issued from Jan-July, 443,000 were to undocumented immigrants
How can they be immigrants if they're undocumented?

They may be aliens, but without an immigrant visa, they're not immigrants.

By that logic, I'll declare myself an undocumented doctor.
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California Effort to Issue Driver’s Licenses to Immigrants Receives Surge of Applicants

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Even now, months after the program went into effect, lines regularly begin at the Department of Motor Vehicles in Los Angeles by 6 a.m., a sign of the continuing changes in the state’s population. D.M.V. officials predict that they will issue nearly 1.5 million licenses to undocumented immigrants within three years. Of the 883,000 total licenses issued from January to the end of July, 443,000 were granted to undocumented immigrants, the officials said.



Many in the state applaud the license program, as well as other efforts by California to integrate undocumented immigrants into the economy, saying it simply reflects the demographic reality. California is home to nearly three million illegal immigrants, 40 percent of all such immigrants in the country. More than half of the state’s residents are immigrants or children of immigrants, with Latinos making up the largest ethnic group.

While an overhaul of the nation’s immigration laws has languished in Congress, many undocumented immigrants have established themselves in California over decades. Thanks to recent legislative measures, they can receive financial aid and student loans to attend state universities and can be approved to practice more than 40 professions, including law, architecture and dentistry.



But critics say that with measures like the driver’s license program, the state is interfering with federal policy. They argue that such laws will only entice more immigrants to enter the country illegally, increasing the need for public spending.

“It creates even more of a magnet in what is already basically a sanctuary state,” said Joe Guzzardi, a spokesman for Californians for Population Stabilization, which advocates stricter immigration policies. “These are very tangible rewards to people who have knowingly and willingly violated the law.”



Under the budget approved this year, children from low-income families, regardless of their immigration status, will receive subsidized health care. Lawmakers are also considering legislation to allow undocumented immigrants to pay for health insurance through the state’s public exchange. And a bill that would give agricultural workers permits and protect them from deportation, the kind of policy that has historically been in the federal domain, cleared its first legislative hurdle with nearly unanimous support. Huntington Park, a suburb of Los Angeles, is moving this week to appoint undocumented immigrants to two unpaid advisory board positions.


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How can Kalifornia give these people documents to protect them from deportation, when Arizona can't even check their immigration status legally? This does not compute!
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It's over
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It's over
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And Cali. is the poster child for it.
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So they get their drivers license without ever having had lessons, nor doing exam.

This is positive discrimination yeah well like everything
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Guess what ? They're documented now finger print and all, try to think outside the box one time ....
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And this is just in one state. How many are in other states? California is scary. Why do they want to allow themselves to be destroyed? Global warming suicide?
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Trump right again!

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They don't even have to take a written exam or driving test if they check a box stating they are already licensed to drive in mexico. No proof required, of course. That would be racist!

Get into an accident with your new CA license with a fake name? Just choose a new fake name and get a new license! No fines no time!

Viva la raza!
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I had an issue with the sheriff dept over trespassing and when they ran my new Ca Dl it didn't even show up.

The cops asked if I worked for a federal agency and went on their way after the show played out.

Made me wonder why it didn't come up, sheriff didn't know, either.
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Trump right again!

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They don't even have to take a written exam or driving test if they check a box stating they are already licensed to drive in mexico. No proof required, of course. That would be racist!

Get into an accident with your new CA license with a fake name? Just choose a new fake name and get a new license! No fines no time!

Viva la raza!
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Because they don't fingerprint, right?
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& if they had to show ID to vote, they have a valid drivers license.

Do you still have to be a U.S. citizen to vote in California?
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Guess what ? They're documented now finger print and all, try to think outside the box one time ....
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Guess what? Illegal immigrants can bring in ANY personal info and DMV must take it with no questions asked. Fact. So out of theses 440K+ illegals how many do think gave real names and info?...
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how do they get a Real ID compliant license?
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Re: California: Of the 883,000 drivers licenses issued from Jan-July, 443,000 were to undocumented immigrants
Which to my mind and thinking makes the california government a domestic terrorist. Actively subverting America by issuing stae legal documentaion--which they can then use to subvert the national system of benifits.
And voting

What is the punnishment for treason?
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wtf
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For every illegal that gets one there are probably 10 that don't.

The USA is being invaded and destroyed and no one seems to give a damn.

There are millions, and millions more coming, they will be the key in turning this once greatest nation into another third world shithole...

There will be no going back when that happens.

Defeated and destroyed from within, wealth redistributed...

There will never again be anything great about the USA.
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It's gotten to the point where if you are involved in an auto accident with someone in L.A. you've got to take the VIN number down for the vehicles involved.

Several acquaintances of mine have reported that following an accident, none of the documentation given by the other person was legit. (fake driver's license, fake insurance information, fake vehicle registration, etc.)
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The NWO did this.

It cost U.S. tax payers $115 billion EACH and every year to care for this invaders.

It would cost far less to build a wall and maintain it. They are F___ing liars when they say that E-Verify would not work.

I even heard one phony so called conservative talk radio host opine that E-Verify just wouldn't work. What a liar---it has never been implemented correctly...just like our open borders.

They want to spy on hard working Americans but simply can't enforce our borders? People who believe these liars deserve what they get...but no man is an island and the intelligent ones who care about the future of their nation and especially their children have been placed into the same lot as the morons...if you vote for someone like Jeb Bush with his open door policy with illegals than you get what you deserve.
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Which to my mind and thinking makes the california government a domestic terrorist. Actively subverting America by issuing stae legal documentaion--which they can then use to subvert the national system of benifits.
And voting

What is the punnishment for treason?
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The Cartel have infiltrated DMV at high levels within the organization. That's why it's been so easy for them to get compliant drivers Lic - illegals also juxtapose their names so they could have 3 or more last names in America. They can go into downtown LA in certain areas and acquire fake ID cards, any kind. Bring to DMV and use it to get a Cal ID or Driver Lic.
They have also taken over a lot of towing companies- they can store and impound cars and sell them back to illegals that are in need of transportation- it's a racket.
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It's over
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And Cali. is the poster child for it.
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There isn't a state that doesn't have illegals.

Maybe you're missing it, but they are everywhere now, and the federal government is helping them to infiltrate cities and towns across the country. By the bus loads.
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It's gotten to the point where if you are involved in an auto accident with someone in L.A. you've got to take the VIN number down for the vehicles involved.

Several acquaintances of mine have reported that following an accident, none of the documentation given by the other person was legit. (fake driver's license, fake insurance information, fake vehicle registration, etc.)
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Another way the honest American and good drivers get screwed...an article stated that at least 20% of your auto premium is to cover accidents stages with illegals. Where ever they go everything is higher for you and yours.
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Takes why LA LA land is "Hit and Run" city...
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Guess what ? They're documented now finger print and all, try to think outside the box one time ....
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Guess what? Illegal immigrants can bring in ANY personal info and DMV must take it with no questions asked. Fact. So out of theses 440K+ illegals how many do think gave real names and info?...
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Yeah true , but very had to do a second time finger printing and picture both required to get a licence no matter what name you use , some info is better then none , seems like a pretty smart way to get them documented ,specially with the fact they are here anyways ....
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California licenses require a fingerprint ID.

Seems like they have documentation now.

Undocumented immigrant grants. California, you had one job, keep californians legal. wtf is wrong with you?
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Soon very soon
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Re: California: Of the 883,000 drivers licenses issued from Jan-July, 443,000 were to undocumented immigrants
Which to my mind and thinking makes the california government a domestic terrorist. Actively subverting America by issuing stae legal documentaion--which they can then use to subvert the national system of benifits.
And voting

What is the punnishment for treason?
 Quoting: Bodiless


The Cartel have infiltrated DMV at high levels within the organization. That's why it's been so easy for them to get compliant drivers Lic - illegals also juxtapose their names so they could have 3 or more last names in America. They can go into downtown LA in certain areas and acquire fake ID cards, any kind. Bring to DMV and use it to get a Cal ID or Driver Lic.
They have also taken over a lot of towing companies- they can store and impound cars and sell them back to illegals that are in need of transportation- it's a racket.
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not to mention the fact that the majority of hiring managers in businesses such as hospitals, restaurants, supermarket are all mexican.... and they only hire their own kind.

we are losing this war. that is why i am praying for doom this September. we need these people to die off, so we can rebuild this nation again.

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Re: California: Of the 883,000 drivers licenses issued from Jan-July, 443,000 were to undocumented immigrants
Which to my mind and thinking makes the california government a domestic terrorist. Actively subverting America by issuing stae legal documentaion--which they can then use to subvert the national system of benifits.
And voting

What is the punnishment for treason?
 Quoting: Bodiless


The Cartel have infiltrated DMV at high levels within the organization. That's why it's been so easy for them to get compliant drivers Lic - illegals also juxtapose their names so they could have 3 or more last names in America. They can go into downtown LA in certain areas and acquire fake ID cards, any kind. Bring to DMV and use it to get a Cal ID or Driver Lic.
They have also taken over a lot of towing companies- they can store and impound cars and sell them back to illegals that are in need of transportation- it's a racket.
 Quoting: GI JOE

not to mention the fact that the majority of hiring managers in businesses such as hospitals, restaurants, supermarket are all mexican.... and they only hire their own kind.

we are losing this war. that is why i am praying for doom this September. we need these people to die off, so we can rebuild this nation again.
 Quoting: DragonKiller


be careful what you wish for. remember if you are talking about Mexicans, they know more about living off the land then most whites do in this country. They also know how to grow their own food, something that most white and black folks can't do any more.Believe me if most citizens here in the US had to live off the land they would die, they are so over weight, and so into their cell phones, and nuking a meal they would die if they had to do any real work. then look at how many Mexicans know how to grow food dry it, can it, and even pick it. So maybe you need to sit back and rethink what you really want to happen.

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Re: California: Of the 883,000 drivers licenses issued from Jan-July, 443,000 were to undocumented immigrants
How can they be immigrants if they're undocumented?

They may be aliens, but without an immigrant visa, they're not immigrants.

By that logic, I'll declare myself an undocumented doctor.
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Poor Muppet...
You are thinking for yourself, and that is politically-incorrect.

Please report to the nearest Howard Zinn Memorial Reeducation Camp IMMEDIATELY for your lobotomy.
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California, you had one job, keep californians legal. wtf is wrong with you?
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DUH...
Democrats need the La RAZA vote, silly
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Re: California: Of the 883,000 drivers licenses issued from Jan-July, 443,000 were to undocumented immigrants
How can you get a drivers license while being illegally in the country? Are there no laws for illegals in the U.S. anymore?





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