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Did the evil doer hanging next to Jesus go to heaven?

 
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Did the evil doer hanging next to Jesus go to heaven?
"However, YOU are the ones that have stuck with me in my trials; 29 and I make a covenant with YOU, just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom, 30 that YOU may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones to judge the twelve tribes of Israel." Lk22:28
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the bible can't agree on what happened on his way to be crucified, who was crucified with him and what they said, and what his last words were.

It all depends on which book you read.
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I understand that Jesus said Paradise
, not Heaven, for that man.
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hel be in paradise were ever that may be for him.on earth as it is in heaven means to me like all the other planets that have civilisations on em living in peace
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Why would he go to heaven when everything in the bible states that the Kingdom of Jesus is here on earth? If you look up the Greek in Strong's Concordance, paradise is described as a park or an Eden, a place of future happiness.
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the bible can't agree on what happened on his way to be crucified, who was crucified with him and what they said, and what his last words were.

It all depends on which book you read.
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There's no confusion about what was said, the question is did the man qualify to serve in heaven as assistant king with Jesus?
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Why would he go to heaven when everything in the bible states that the Kingdom of Jesus is here on earth? If you look up the Greek in Strong's Concordance, paradise is described as a park or an Eden, a place of future happiness.
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Yep;
"Let anger alone and leave rage;
Do not show yourself heated up only to do evil.
 9 For evildoers themselves will be cut off,
But those hoping in Jehovah are the ones that will possess the earth.
ו [Waw]
10 And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more;
And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be.
11 But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace." Ps37:8
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Re: Did the evil doer hanging next to Jesus go to heaven?
Read Leviticus 16.
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the bible can't agree on what happened on his way to be crucified, who was crucified with him and what they said, and what his last words were.

It all depends on which book you read.
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Different versions of te resurrection too. Sort of anomalies that conspiracy theorists say point to a hoax.
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the bible can't agree on what happened on his way to be crucified, who was crucified with him and what they said, and what his last words were.

It all depends on which book you read.
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Different versions of te resurrection too. Sort of anomalies that conspiracy theorists say point to a hoax.
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Jesus Christ was a well known conspiracy theorist back during his day. That's why the Romans and his fellow Jews killed him. Because he got too close to the truth!

Pfft! lol I'll laugh my ass off if this causes a huge ruckus now.
Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker.

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the bible can't agree on what happened on his way to be crucified, who was crucified with him and what they said, and what his last words were.

It all depends on which book you read.
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Different versions of te resurrection too. Sort of anomalies that conspiracy theorists say point to a hoax.
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Jesus Christ was a well known conspiracy theorist back during his day. That's why the Romans and his fellow Jews killed him. Because he got too close to the truth!

Pfft! lol I'll laugh my ass off if this causes a huge ruckus now.
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I am sure there is some truth to this--interesting view point
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When you get too close to the truth, you know that you are called 'Truth' and also belong to the Faithful Family and set free from all binding religions.

Isaiah 25:1 kjv

O Lord, thou art my God; I will exalt thee, I will praise thy name; for thou hast done wonderful things; thy counsels of old are faithfulness and truth.

john 8:32

So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, "If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine;

and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."

They answered Him, "We are Abraham's descendants and have never yet been enslaved to anyone; how is it that You say, 'You will become free '?"…

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Re: Did the evil doer hanging next to Jesus go to heaven?
The thief went to paradise. Paradise is in the earth next to hell and a wide gulf separates them
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I believe he did
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"However, YOU are the ones that have stuck with me in my trials; 29 and I make a covenant with YOU, just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom, 30 that YOU may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones to judge the twelve tribes of Israel." Lk22:28
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the thief on the cross who believed upon Him was a sinner, not unlike all who've been born of the flesh and suffered unto such herein. referring to him as an evildoer however crosses a line in every regard in truth

those who wish to deny him the gift of the covenant purchased with the saviors blood in their vain efforts to cling to the letter of the law in any regard, will be judged according to the same standard and held accountable thereunto in their own regard

I am not referring to the ten commandments, those are just common sense and simple human dignity expects, nay demands compliance thereto of any and every man, but rather the statutes and ordinances which He sufficiently nailed to the cross

Christ tolerates much of us and of much we are forgiven if we believe in both He, His truth, and the level of His enduring all abiding love in every mans regard, bar none. Faith is accounted as much accordingly, as well should it be

one thing He abhors however is some holy joe legalist who wishes to place himself above another, any other, as we are all instructed not to judge, period. any man who attempts to do so has convicted themselves in the process, as nothing is as it may appear outwardly unto man!

He alone knows the minds and hearts of all His children at any given time, which is something no other man has ever been capable of doing...

therefore He alone will judge, He will determine, and He will forgive whomsoever He WILL

His Will, His Way, not our own

there is no way in hell My Father would have made it clear unto this individual that He would "be with Him that very day in Paradise" if such weren't the Gods truth, period

Christ was teaching throughout His cruficixion even from the cross in the midst of His trials, those unaware of such have much yet to learn and little time with each day that passes to accomplish such

one thing He cannot abide however is a hypocrite, and with great good reason in truth
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The thief went to paradise. Paradise is in the earth next to hell and a wide gulf separates them
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Are the dead secretly alive there?
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The good thief, as he is commonly called, is an unnamed character mentioned in the Gospel of Luke who was crucified alongside Jesus and asked Jesus to remember him in his kingdom. He is traditionally referred to as St. Dismas.

Though he has never been formally canonized by the Church, he is believed to be a saint by virtue of Christ’s words, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise.” His feast day is March 25.

When we cross-reference the account of the crucifixion in the Gospels, we can infer something very interesting about St. Dismas: that while on the cross he verbally abused Jesus with the other criminal and the crowd before repenting and asking to be saved.

[link to www.catholic.com]
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The good thief, as he is commonly called, is an unnamed character mentioned in the Gospel of Luke who was crucified alongside Jesus and asked Jesus to remember him in his kingdom. He is traditionally referred to as St. Dismas.

Though he has never been formally canonized by the Church, he is believed to be a saint by virtue of Christ’s words, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise.” His feast day is March 25.

When we cross-reference the account of the crucifixion in the Gospels, we can infer something very interesting about St. Dismas: that while on the cross he verbally abused Jesus with the other criminal and the crowd before repenting and asking to be saved.

[link to www.catholic.com]
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Yes
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You people are brainwashed and scary.

Feel sorry for you.
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You people are brainwashed and scary.

Feel sorry for you.
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St. Dismas: The Saint for These Dark Times‏

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Re: Did the evil doer hanging next to Jesus go to heaven?
Nobody went to heaven that day not even Jesus! Jesus was the only one that died on Friday and even he didn't go to heaven. The soldiers broke the legs of the two thieves on either side of Christ so they would't escape but when they realized that Jesus was already dead they didn't need to break his. Friday was over and the Sabbath began at sundown and not at midnight and Jesus was the only one that died before sundown. We also know that when Mary tried to hug him on Sunday morning he wouldn't let her because he said that he had not yet ascended to his father.
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Re: Did the evil doer hanging next to Jesus go to heaven?
the bible can't agree on what happened on his way to be crucified, who was crucified with him and what they said, and what his last words were.

It all depends on which book you read.
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Different versions of te resurrection too. Sort of anomalies that conspiracy theorists say point to a hoax.
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More likely to have been a hoax if those compiling it changed the stories to fit with each other.
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Nobody went to heaven that day not even Jesus! Jesus was the only one that died on Friday and even he didn't go to heaven. The soldiers broke the legs of the two thieves on either side of Christ so they would't escape but when they realized that Jesus was already dead they didn't need to break his. Friday was over and the Sabbath began at sundown and not at midnight and Jesus was the only one that died before sundown. We also know that when Mary tried to hug him on Sunday morning he wouldn't let her because he said that he had not yet ascended to his father.
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Go to the head of the class, seems you're one of so few who know this simple answer.

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Re: Did the evil doer hanging next to Jesus go to heaven?
Did said "evil doer" hate Jesus for his freedoms?
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"However, YOU are the ones that have stuck with me in my trials; 29 and I make a covenant with YOU, just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom, 30 that YOU may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones to judge the twelve tribes of Israel." Lk22:28
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No
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"However, YOU are the ones that have stuck with me in my trials; 29 and I make a covenant with YOU, just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom, 30 that YOU may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones to judge the twelve tribes of Israel." Lk22:28
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No
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Thanks
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"However, YOU are the ones that have stuck with me in my trials; 29 and I make a covenant with YOU, just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom, 30 that YOU may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones to judge the twelve tribes of Israel." Lk22:28
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No
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Thanks
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Your welcome
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"However, YOU are the ones that have stuck with me in my trials; 29 and I make a covenant with YOU, just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom, 30 that YOU may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones to judge the twelve tribes of Israel." Lk22:28
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Why do you struggle so much to rationalize a book of fiction? Why are you so desperate to turn myth into reality? Are you unable to take life for what it really is? Is your mind weak and you need some sort of crutch to prop it up?

Maybe this multiple choice question will help you sort it out:

Which of the following is the least likely to exist:

1.) The Tooth Fairy
2.) The Easter Bunny
3.) Santa Claus
4.) An almighty god.

(answer below)








4.) An almighty god. The concept is the most absurd and asinine of the four.
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"However, YOU are the ones that have stuck with me in my trials; 29 and I make a covenant with YOU, just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom, 30 that YOU may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones to judge the twelve tribes of Israel." Lk22:28
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Why do you struggle so much to rationalize a book of fiction? Why are you so desperate to turn myth into reality? Are you unable to take life for what it really is? Is your mind weak and you need some sort of crutch to prop it up?

Maybe this multiple choice question will help you sort it out:

Which of the following is the least likely to exist:

1.) The Tooth Fairy
2.) The Easter Bunny
3.) Santa Claus
4.) An almighty god.

(answer below)








4.) An almighty god. The concept is the most absurd and asinine of the four.
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No....Peter Pan and Wendy are the least likely to exist...but it sure is fun wishing upon a star.....

However......What concept do you believe brought life to this planet.....let's do a list of that


A) Chance

B)- Chance

C)- Chance

D)- Intelligent design
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"However, YOU are the ones that have stuck with me in my trials; 29 and I make a covenant with YOU, just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom, 30 that YOU may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones to judge the twelve tribes of Israel." Lk22:28
 Quoting: DGN


Why do you struggle so much to rationalize a book of fiction? Why are you so desperate to turn myth into reality? Are you unable to take life for what it really is? Is your mind weak and you need some sort of crutch to prop it up?

Maybe this multiple choice question will help you sort it out:

Which of the following is the least likely to exist:

1.) The Tooth Fairy
2.) The Easter Bunny
3.) Santa Claus
4.) An almighty god.

(answer below)








4.) An almighty god. The concept is the most absurd and asinine of the four.
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No....Peter Pan and Wendy are the least likely to exist...but it sure is fun wishing upon a star.....

However......What concept do you believe brought life to this planet.....let's do a list of that


A) Chance

B)- Chance

C)- Chance

D)- Intelligent design
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BillyBob her an i got this un. ....MUTATION...... Cell replikashun failure dont result in deformed dysfunctional handicaps it makes em even better than it waz befor the glitch. din ya never blow sumfun up just ta make it better than befor? din ya never hammer sumfun busted ta fix it cryin out loud, git ya sum xpierence fer science sake ya dummy





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