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Mistake in Quran can anyone answer? I thought so | |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 66970514 United States09/02/2015 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can anyone answer one of many apparent mistakes in the Quran is that the Quran has misplaced someone by about 1000-1300 years. Haman, which is only known about in Jewish sources is placed with Pharoh of Egypt in the times of Moses. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66970514 Pharaoh and Haman, and their hosts were sinners ... And Pharaoh said, "Council, I know not that you have any god but me. Kindle me, Haman, a fire upon the clay, and make me a tower, that I may mount up to Moses' god; for I think that he is one of the liars." [Sura 28:8,38] Pharaoh said, "Haman, build for me a tower, that haply so I may reach the cords, the cords of the heavens, and look upon Moses' God; for I think that he is a liar." [Sura 40:36-37] This is another possible example of two historical compressions in the same story and the same confusion in both texts that recount the event. At least in this case, the Qur'an is consistent within itself. According to Surah 28:35-42 and 40:36-37, Haman was a minister or official of the Pharaoh (king of Egypt) who lived in the same time as Moses. According to Jewish history Haman served as the minister of Ahasuerus (king of Persia, Xerxes I is his name in Greek). Apart from the error in location, this is placing Pharaoh (Moses) and Haman in the same story even though they lived 1,000 years apart. [See Esther 3:1.] Furthermore, in the Qur'an Haman is ordered by Pharaoh to build a tower reaching into heaven ("the Tower of Babel") which is a well known story of an event that took place long before Abraham, who lived at least 400 years before Moses. [See Genesis 11:1-9, especially the verses 3-4, "Let us build make bricks and bake them thoroughly. ... and build a ... tower that reaches to the heavens."] This connection is confirmed through another piece of historical, archaeological evidence.  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70198876  Israel09/06/2015 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey OP. if the quran brings this as a real factual event, then this is obviously wrong. as a jew I can tell you, that like Christians muslims are not very innovative nor are original, but they drew heavily from rabbinic literature and teachings. the Talmud says that the haters of Israel met in hell, (not real event, but a story one can learn from) and discussed how to kill jews(and the holy seed G-d works through in general). first came Cain and said, I killed able. then came esau, and said to cain, you are a fool, didn't you know your father Adam is still alive, and he birthed Seth? I wanted to kill Jacob so I waited till Isaac could not bring children. so came pharaoh and said, Esau you fool, didn't you know Jacob was being fruitful and gave birth to the tribes of Israel? I threw all the males to the nile. so came Haman and said, pharaoh you fool, didn't you know that by leaving even one jewish female alive they could have replenished? I planned to kill every single one of them, males females elders children and babies. then came gog and said, haman you fool! don't you know they have a patron and heaven who protects them? I infused myself with their patron (chrisitanity - jesus) and pretended to be their friend, ever causing them to sin, so their patron wont protect them as I am about to invade their land. and then G-d viewed from heaven and laughed at all of them. Why do the nations conspire[a] and the peoples plot in vain? 2 The kings of the earth rise up and the rulers band together against the Lord and against his anointed, saying, 3 “Let us break their chains and throw off their shackles.” 4 The One enthroned in heaven laughs; |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 66970514 United States09/07/2015 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70198876 if the quran brings this as a real factual event, then this is obviously wrong. as a jew I can tell you, that like Christians muslims are not very innovative nor are original, but they drew heavily from rabbinic literature and teachings. the Talmud says that the haters of Israel met in hell, (not real event, but a story one can learn from) and discussed how to kill jews(and the holy seed G-d works through in general). first came Cain and said, I killed able. then came esau, and said to cain, you are a fool, didn't you know your father Adam is still alive, and he birthed Seth? I wanted to kill Jacob so I waited till Isaac could not bring children. so came pharaoh and said, Esau you fool, didn't you know Jacob was being fruitful and gave birth to the tribes of Israel? I threw all the males to the nile. so came Haman and said, pharaoh you fool, didn't you know that by leaving even one jewish female alive they could have replenished? I planned to kill every single one of them, males females elders children and babies. then came gog and said, haman you fool! don't you know they have a patron and heaven who protects them? I infused myself with their patron (chrisitanity - jesus) and pretended to be their friend, ever causing them to sin, so their patron wont protect them as I am about to invade their land. and then G-d viewed from heaven and laughed at all of them. Why do the nations conspire[a] and the peoples plot in vain? 2 The kings of the earth rise up and the rulers band together against the Lord and against his anointed, saying, 3 “Let us break their chains and throw off their shackles.” 4 The One enthroned in heaven laughs; great post so far no muslim can defend how their book is out of chronological order I don't think they ever can |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 44502531 United States09/07/2015 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70198876 if the quran brings this as a real factual event, then this is obviously wrong. as a jew I can tell you, that like Christians muslims are not very innovative nor are original, but they drew heavily from rabbinic literature and teachings. the Talmud says that the haters of Israel met in hell, (not real event, but a story one can learn from) and discussed how to kill jews(and the holy seed G-d works through in general). first came Cain and said, I killed able. then came esau, and said to cain, you are a fool, didn't you know your father Adam is still alive, and he birthed Seth? I wanted to kill Jacob so I waited till Isaac could not bring children. so came pharaoh and said, Esau you fool, didn't you know Jacob was being fruitful and gave birth to the tribes of Israel? I threw all the males to the nile. so came Haman and said, pharaoh you fool, didn't you know that by leaving even one jewish female alive they could have replenished? I planned to kill every single one of them, males females elders children and babies. then came gog and said, haman you fool! don't you know they have a patron and heaven who protects them? I infused myself with their patron (chrisitanity - jesus) and pretended to be their friend, ever causing them to sin, so their patron wont protect them as I am about to invade their land. and then G-d viewed from heaven and laughed at all of them. Why do the nations conspire[a] and the peoples plot in vain? 2 The kings of the earth rise up and the rulers band together against the Lord and against his anointed, saying, 3 “Let us break their chains and throw off their shackles.” 4 The One enthroned in heaven laughs; great post so far no muslim can defend how their book is out of chronological order I don't think they ever can Muslims Dont Need To Prove Any Thing, But Point To That " Young Dark Male" Nostradumas was telling you about. That Muhammad Tearing limbs off that ass. SAY SOME THING IT WILL BE HURRICANE SEASON AROUND THIS BITCH. THEN YOU EXPLAIN THAT |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 66970514 United States09/07/2015 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70198876 if the quran brings this as a real factual event, then this is obviously wrong. as a jew I can tell you, that like Christians muslims are not very innovative nor are original, but they drew heavily from rabbinic literature and teachings. the Talmud says that the haters of Israel met in hell, (not real event, but a story one can learn from) and discussed how to kill jews(and the holy seed G-d works through in general). first came Cain and said, I killed able. then came esau, and said to cain, you are a fool, didn't you know your father Adam is still alive, and he birthed Seth? I wanted to kill Jacob so I waited till Isaac could not bring children. so came pharaoh and said, Esau you fool, didn't you know Jacob was being fruitful and gave birth to the tribes of Israel? I threw all the males to the nile. so came Haman and said, pharaoh you fool, didn't you know that by leaving even one jewish female alive they could have replenished? I planned to kill every single one of them, males females elders children and babies. then came gog and said, haman you fool! don't you know they have a patron and heaven who protects them? I infused myself with their patron (chrisitanity - jesus) and pretended to be their friend, ever causing them to sin, so their patron wont protect them as I am about to invade their land. and then G-d viewed from heaven and laughed at all of them. Why do the nations conspire[a] and the peoples plot in vain? 2 The kings of the earth rise up and the rulers band together against the Lord and against his anointed, saying, 3 “Let us break their chains and throw off their shackles.” 4 The One enthroned in heaven laughs; great post so far no muslim can defend how their book is out of chronological order I don't think they ever can Muslims Dont Need To Prove Any Thing, But Point To That " Young Dark Male" Nostradumas was telling you about. That Muhammad Tearing limbs off that ass. SAY SOME THING IT WILL BE HURRICANE SEASON AROUND THIS BITCH. THEN YOU EXPLAIN THAT what? |
