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SHELANDRIA

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Thank you for this discussion. I'm particularly enjoying Peachblossoms's responses.

I have withdrawn quite a bit from people after getting hurt repeatedly, and instead have found and used other creative ways like writing to reach out and touch people.

Sometimes, dealing with people directly feels too harsh - especially if they are prone to take advantage of people. In this case, I either get confrontative or worry too much about how to act with them (both before AND afterwards) which usually is very confrontative beforehand, but then, when it comes time to talk to them, I'm usually more gentle than I intended, which often makes me afraid that I'll just be taken advantage of again....

Anyone else have conflicts over dealing gently with those who don't exactly deal gently with you?
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I have found that the "gentle people" are really people who have not had real life strike them in the face over and over so have just not developed strategies for survivial in the real world.


I know genuinely kind people who have
faced the harshest circumstances one can
imagine.
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tenderized like a piece of meat.
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jesus hurt people's feelings
to heal their souls
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Pruning is generally painful.


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Some of the comments people say to one another here on this forum make me cringe.

I can't even insult a nameless, faceless person.

It's not a matter of religion, or right or wrong, it's a feeling deep inside. I don't want to cause another soul pain. It would hurt me.

Afterall, what you do to others, you do to yourself.
"Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein
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Are there any "girly men" here on this forum?

I need a sensitive girly type man to counteract my aggressive, manly-man type personality.

Now THAT would be balance!

5a
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I'M EVIL!!!!!!! pope2
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I'm well aware of that. Who's that behind you? Could it be the Black Pope?
If it is, watch your ass.
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Not only could they not hurt anyone physically, they couldnt even hurt peoples feelings, doing either causes them pain. It is amazing to me how people can live in such a world as this. Are you one of those gentle people? How do you feel about this world?
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It's being ground down by the stress of modern day living - rat race
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HSP's or "highly sensitve people" all kinds of books and support groups for them now.

I don't think they need support groups as "therapy", only to find "like minded" souls.

QUETZ
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I question the gentleness of anyone who says they rip the head off their enemy.

I do not call that a gentle trait.

Being gentle means you always walk away or allow someone else to fight the fight as you don't have it in you to fight and harm another.

Being gentle to get in a better position to take down your enemy is not being gentle but being cunning and deceitful which is in no way gentle.

To the one who says they have been on this earth 5 decades and faced some very difficult life. So have I on both counts yet I still get up and keep going and still choose to be kind and turn away from conflict as I don't desire conflict. But I don't call myself gentle. You can choose to be kind but that does not mean you are gentle.

Being gentle means you don't have the spirit of being unkind even inside in your thoughts as it was never developed.
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this is the meaning of the firey angel which guards the "garden of eden"

you must pass through a firey trial to enter back into that place of peace and harmony
it feels like you go through hell itself and die a thousand deaths

if Jesus is "bad" because he leads us through the fire (they question His gentleness), than maybe gentleness is like allowing a cancer to grow because you don't want to cause it any pain
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I question the gentleness of anyone who says they rip the head off their enemy.

I do not call that a gentle trait.

Being gentle means you always walk away or allow someone else to fight the fight as you don't have it in you to fight and harm another.

Being gentle to get in a better position to take down your enemy is not being gentle but being cunning and deceitful which is in no way gentle.

To the one who says they have been on this earth 5 decades and faced some very difficult life. So have I on both counts yet I still get up and keep going and still choose to be kind and turn away from conflict as I don't desire conflict. But I don't call myself gentle. You can choose to be kind but that does not mean you are gentle.

Being gentle means you don't have the spirit of being unkind even inside in your thoughts as it was never developed.
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These are very good comments! It could very well be that I'm not in a position of even imagining being 'truly gentle' the way you mean. Partly this could be due to the fact that English is not my mother tongue, some subtle nuances of concepts are lost in translation. But I don't think this is the main reason.

To be perfectly honest, I'm trained to kill and have no doubts in my mind that I can use my hard-earned skills if I have to. This is since I have chosen to maintain this skill set over time. As I see it, it has nothing to do with being unkind to the would-be killed. The keyword is what you mean by "have to". What could possibly make me switch into the killing mode?

The answer is that I'll do anything to avoid it. Being gentle opens up lots of such opportunities. Call it deceit or whatever, it can be a good thing if its objective is to take away the will to attack you, removing the agressors own fears. If that doesn't work, acting intimidating is just stupid, in particular if you are up against a physically much stronger enemy. If there is no other way, fleeing is no option, cornered, then I'll suddenly stop being gentle.

I guess I'm not a truly gentle person then. I can live with that.

Love,
/LTC Peachblossom
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gentleness is possible when you don't put others in God's place
if you need their love and acceptance, instead of God's, you will not be able to be gentle, because needy people only think of their own needs
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i stopped killing living things in my early ten's.

i only kill coachroaches but with remorse. the other day i took one outside, i suspected it came from my neighbour.


i have for years now enjoyed openning the windows of my place and bathroom for over nite trapped insects to escape.

i do that for flies even i don't sqash them. its always a great joy to see them take some breath, regain strength and then fly away. i even sometimes try putting a water drop next to the extremely exhausted looking ones.

there is this bee which is puzzling me for i have now on three occassions oppened the window for it to fly away. every time am sitting on my laz-boy near the window and think of it, its shows up nowdays am having to close the window when i spot it so it don't get trapped. the other day it came and crawled on my finger when freeing it. i have feelings its was thanking me, i think insect are concious and are inteligent. i will not speak of my experience with some of them since i realized this might cauze some punk to think i losed it.
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It would be nice to meet one of these gentle folks I only come across selfish useless eaters in search of material gain, but then what do you expect from a planet run by pure evil.
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sometimes people get used to your scent and like being around you
if you don't want bugs to come in the house, always make sure your house is closed up after dark when the lights are on
bugs are attracted to light
i stopped killing living things in my early ten's.

i only kill coachroaches but with remorse. the other day i took one outside, i suspected it came from my neighbour.


i have for years now enjoyed openning the windows of my place and bathroom for over nite trapped insects to escape.

i do that for flies even i don't sqash them. its always a great joy to see them take some breath, regain strength and then fly away. i even sometimes try putting a water drop next to the extremely exhausted looking ones.

there is this bee which is puzzling me for i have now on three occassions oppened the window for it to fly away. every time am sitting on my laz-boy near the window and think of it, its shows up nowdays am having to close the window when i spot it so it don't get trapped. the other day it came and crawled on my finger when freeing it. i have feelings its was thanking me, i think insect are concious and are inteligent. i will not speak of my experience with some of them since i realized this might cauze some punk to think i losed it.
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i meant to say bees get used to your scent (but, people do also)
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the best way to see gentleness in action is to live it yourself
it is contagious

but, not for emotional wimps
LTC Peachblossom

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i stopped killing living things in my early ten's.

i only kill coachroaches but with remorse. the other day i took one outside, i suspected it came from my neighbour.
...

 Quoting: Superman 47355


I share you concern for all kinds of animals, and recognize myself in what you say.

In my case, I draw a limit with mosquitoes and other bloodsuckers, I kill them without remorse. Wasps and bees on the other hand are safe in my presence, they are kindly shown the way out if they bother me or seem to be irritated enough to attack me.

I'm so pleased that my kids show the same concern for all living beings!

However, I'm also totally irrational since I'm no vegetarian... at least I don't kill anything just for fun. That's a start.

Love,
/LTC Peachblossom
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SOME 'GENTLE' LESBIANS ARE SO HATEFUL AND HAVE SUCH POWER, THEY CAN SET UP A FAKE RUMPSEX LOVING HONEYTRAP AD TO DRAW HETEROSEXUAL MEN INTO A PORN RECRUITMENT/BLACKMAIL SCEME ONLINE

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you right on that one, know of some, who of-late are now the major patrons in a shit bar, near my place, i frequently visit for a beer when i need one. that shit bar is a hole in a wall, always smelling cigaretes, and full of tramps and poor punk gamblers. actually i go there since am under-ground and don't need to drive there since its not far from my place. i only go there during it off-peak hours since i cant stand sheeple's and the ciggaretes smell.

these fags know me and also know that am strictly a "punani shagger". but i noticed they always like to be in the company of different beautiful woman.

sometimes i get some from these women but sometimes the mf fags are jealous and tell the womens shit about me.

currently and for sometime now, i only like women who push when i push and then i leave them. the ones i like we do it again. these is what the fags tell my women. BUT I REALIZED THE FAGS ARE GOOD PEOPLE. I NEVER TALK SHIT TO THEM. SINCE AM NOT GOD TO JUDGE OTHER'S. SOME FAGS IN THE HOOD ARE MY FRIENDS SHORT OF.BUT I WILL NEVER, NEVER, SHAG A FAG AND THEY ALL KNOW IT AND RESPECT IT. BUT I APPRECIATE THEIR JOKES AND MOST TIME I AM THE ONE DISHING THEM IF NOT SCHOOLING.
Superman
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DAMMM, I WRONGLY THOUGHT THE POSTER I QUOTED WAS TALKING ABOUT FAGS AND NOT LESBIANS.

I STILL HAVE TO MEET A LESBIANS I DON'T LIKE OR I WILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH. I GUESS IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

i guess the mistake happened because i am still mad about my islamic post that got deleted by GLP today.


ABOUT THAT AC advicing me to close my window's, i always do but sometimes i need them openned in the night. also some insect comes in during the day when the windows are open.

I will create a hot-mail for the AC and any other GLP poster who want to meet a gentle person like me so s/he can e-mail me. any other person who will be intrested in communicating to me is most welcomed to do so.

i will post my e-mail details latter.
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DAMMM, I WRONGLY THOUGHT THE POSTER I QUOTED WAS TALKING ABOUT FAGS AND NOT LESBIANS.

...

i guess the mistake happened because i am still mad about my islamic post that got deleted by GLP today.

...

I will create a hot-mail for the AC and any other GLP poster who want to meet a gentle person like me so s/he can e-mail me. any other person who will be intrested in communicating to me is most welcomed to do so.

 Quoting: Superman 47355


How come a gentle person like you 1) gets his/her posts about muslims deleted, and 2) becomes so mad about such a little thing?

Don't misunderstand me, none of us are any saints. I'm just curious how you think about it, relating to my own quest to understand the concept of 'being gentle' even better.

Love,
/LTC Peachblossom
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the fags of southern africa are just like the ones in USA. in east africa they are non-existent.

the BLACK movie "BARBEQUE" fags behave,dress and look like our local fags here.

i think the white man saddomized the southern africa people since he was the man longest here.

really yesterday i fag i know who live in the opposite block asked me to see my room because he want to move to my block. my neigbour are a black and whites fags living together.

my local bar is busy becoming a fags place. i hope you see why i had to take up this fag issue.

i like that shit bar because i also like studying people when am bored expecially the sheeple's.

Though the woman i dig smokes cigarettes and is a lawyer the fags women friends i shag smoke ciggarettes and are punks that why i can't be in a serious relationship with them. just use them and leave them. but most that what they want any way.

i don't shag often, since i have been obstaining until its imposible. thats when if the timing is right those fags women friend comes in hardy but its very, very rare it happens onces in a blue moon.

today i took up measure to end my under ground which prohibited me from a normal relationship with women for years now. you don't go to war with a woman. you leave them behind that what i had done.

is the catholic pope demon looking? i think so.
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How come a gentle person like you 1) gets his/her posts about muslims deleted, and 2) becomes so mad about such a little thing?

Don't misunderstand me, none of us are any saints. I'm just curious how you think about it, relating to my own quest to understand the concept of 'being gentle' even better.

Love,
/LTC Peachblossom

i will answer later just got an urgent call on my cellphone from someone i left doing repairs at my place.

but here a bit of it:

i posted about somalia country being taken by the sword by the muslims despite protest from somali people.

i asked whether this is not irrefutable proof that islam is still being spread by the sword even today?

wanted to know the reaction of muslim leaders about islam being spread by the sword in somalia as it is currently un-folding.

i asked why the pope is apologising for speaking the truth? and whether this does not make him a hypocrate which God HATES?

I TALKED OF ETHIOPIANS I GREW UP WITH HAVING A SAYING IN ETHIOPIA THAT SAY THAT, THE ARABS ARE SNAKE THAT NEED TO BE SMASHED ON ITS HEAD.

I ASKED WHY THE EVIL ISLAM KILL PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LEAVE IT FOR WHATEVER REASON?

NOW Tell me why GLP deleted my thread. i will be back.
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Haven't you heard? shocked

WE are going to inherit the Earth!
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Starry, Starry Night
Song by Don McClean

Starry, starry night
Paint your palette blue and gray
Look out on a summer's day
With eyes that know the darkness in my soul
Shadows on the hills
Sketch the trees and the daffodils
Catch the breeze and the winter chills
In colors on the snowy linen land

Now I understand
What you tried to say to me
How you suffered for your sanity
How you tried to set them free
They would not listen they did not how
Perhaps they'll listen now

Starry, starry night
Flaming flowers that brightly blaze
Swirling clouds in violet haze
Reflect in Vincent's eyes of china blue
Colors changing hue
Morning fields of amber grain
Weathered faces lined in pain
Are soothed beneath the artist's loving hand

For they could not love you
But still your love was true
And when no hope was left inside
On that starry, starry night
You took your life as lovers often do
But I could have told you Vincent
This world was never meant for one as
beautiful as you

Starry, starry night
Portraits hung in empty halls
Frameless heads on nameless walls
With eyes that watch the world and can't forget
Like the strangers that you've met
The ragged men in ragged clothes
The silver thorn of bloody rose
Lie crushed and broken on the virgin snow

Now I think I know
What you tried to say to me
How you suffered for your sanity
How you tried to set them free
They did not listen they're not listening still
Perhaps they never will
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I know genuinely kind people who have
faced the harshest circumstances one can
imagine.


Absolutely. And there is a choice. One can either react against those harsh circumstances and become more embittered or allow them to expand the instrinsic "response ability" - the ability to respond more consciously to others with patience and understanding.
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if I think I have hurt someone's feelings I feel super guilty and have to appologize
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Perhaps they should go to SGT Hartman's Marine corps bootcamp (i.e Full Metal Jacket movie) to get a toughend up a bit?
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I have found that the "gentle people" are really people who have not had real life strike them in the face over and over so have just not developed strategies for survivial in the real world.

Their parents and or servants protected them then their husband (normally) protected them or they joined a cult or church who protected them.

For the rest of us unprotected people suffering real life we have found you don't have to be mean and try to hurt people but you certainly develop certain techniques for survivial around the mean and overbearing folks.



Maybe you're identifying gentleness with weakness?
 Quoting: Forfar Loon


Couldn't agree more. I think many identify gentleness with weakness. Untrue in my case. Also, life has hit me hard hard hard, but I'm still "me" and more grateful every day that I am.
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