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National Intelligence Estimate - Authoritative Report so Damning White House Cedes (Sham) War in Iraq Fuels Jihadism!! LEAKED! SEPTEMBER SURPRISE??

 
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WE stated that fact YEARS ago!!

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<<snip: William Rivers Pitt writes: "It seems the invasion and occupation of Iraq has spawned a new generation of radicalized men and women willing to die for the privilege of taking American soldiers, or you, or me, with them. The information contained in the newest National Intelligence Estimate, considered to be the most authoritative report on the subject, was so unutterably damning that even the White House was forced to cede the point."


[link to www.truthout.org]
The Deep Breath Before the Plunge
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Tuesday 26 September 2006

I was flipping through the channels on my television a few days ago to see if there was a baseball game on somewhere. When I got into the 20s on the channel numbers, I did what I always do: I started punching the change-channel button with vigor so as to be spared the standard gibberish that always comes on the screen whenever I accidentally light on one of the cable news channels.

Of course, I wasn't fast enough. I don't know if it was CNN or MSNBC or Fox or what, but sure enough, the some Republican shill appeared before me speaking the same tired line of nonsense. "We're gonna secure and protect America ..." was what I heard, just for a second, and then he was gone in a flurry of button-pounding, because I've heard too much of that noise already.

Secure and protect America? Yeah, bang-up job these folks have done so far.

"Spy Agencies Say Iraq War Worsens Terrorism Threat" read the headline a few days ago. It seems the invasion and occupation of Iraq has spawned a new generation of radicalized men and women willing to die for the privilege of taking American soldiers, or you, or me, with them.

The information contained in the newest National Intelligence Estimate, considered to be the most authoritative report on the subject, was so unutterably damning that even the White House was forced to cede the point. "It assesses that a variety of factors, in addition to Iraq, fuel the spread of jihadism," said administration Tony Snow to reporters, "including longstanding social grievances, slowness of the pace of reform, and the use of the Internet."




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William Rivers Pitt is a New York Times and internationally bestselling author of two books: War on Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You to Know and The Greatest Sedition Is Silence. His newest book, House of Ill Repute: Reflections on War, Lies, and America's Ravaged Reputation, will be available this winter from PoliPointPress.

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Don't cha all get it??

Could this leak be the Democrat's September Surprise???

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hey Pollyannuh,
"Given Bush’s Iraq invasion and his inflammatory rhetoric in the war on terror designed for domestic voters, using words such as “crusade” and “the struggle for civilization”—when combined with the Pope’s veiled attack on Islam—it’s no wonder the U.S. intelligence community has confirmed that the wildfire of radical Islamic terrorism is being intensified worldwide."


you know...the bush administration will only deal with the most radical of muslims also. this puts soldiers in the middle of...hell. so the administration is doing doubly wrong. imho.
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Bush trumped your 'leak' by declassifying the entire report instead of just the handpicked 'leaked' parts...

Lets see what the entire report says...

[link to newsblogs.chicagotribune.com]
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The blame for this lays rightfully at the feet of bush and this administration. I've been saying this for years.

The Pope's inflamtory remarks are recent, but bush is the one who lit that tinderbox.

Remember to vote out all those incumbents who supported this sham war.



hey Pollyannuh,
"Given Bush’s Iraq invasion and his inflammatory rhetoric in the war on terror designed for domestic voters, using words such as “crusade” and “the struggle for civilization”—when combined with the Pope’s veiled attack on Islam—it’s no wonder the U.S. intelligence community has confirmed that the wildfire of radical Islamic terrorism is being intensified worldwide."


you know...the bush administration will only deal with the most radical of muslims also. this puts soldiers in the middle of...hell. so the administration is doing doubly wrong. imho.
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bush was PISSED earlier during his remarks with the Afganistan leader.

His back was against the wall as the contresscritters were calling for a release.

You don't think he did this on his own, do you???


Bush trumped your 'leak' by declassifying the entire report instead of just the handpicked 'leaked' parts...

Lets see what the entire report says...

[link to newsblogs.chicagotribune.com]
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Unclassified truth on terrorism
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Tuesday, September 26, 2006


ANOTHER LEAK has sprung in the agencies of American intelligence, and as usual, the Bush administration is frantically forming a spigot of spin. This time, it was a series of weekend news reports about a classified National Intelligence Estimate that claims the Iraq war has made terrorism worse.

That's what we think, anyway -- we haven't seen the document, which was completed in April, and neither have most members of Congress, who've felt free to comment on it anyway. The startled fumbling and bumbling of the Bush administration, which is usually phenomenal at controlling the story -- press secretary Tony Snow huffed that the news reports didn't say anything that President Bush hasn't already said, though, in fact, they stand in direct contradiction to the Bush story line on Iraq -- leads us to suspect that this estimate's going to stay classified for a long, long time.

So, in lieu of real knowledge, voters can expect to hear a lot of political rhetoric about this estimate for the six weeks leading up to the Nov. 7 election. This is a shame for two reasons. The first is that politicians need to scrutinize National Intelligence Estimates very carefully before opening their mouths and beating their drums -- something we wish they'd done in 2002, when they heard about an estimate that concluded Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.

The second reason why this is a shame is the fact that there's more than enough unclassified information to prove that the Iraq war has been an incubator for new terrorist threats. Last week, the House Intelligence Committee released just such a terrorism report -- one based on unclassified documents, with horrifying details about Iraq that should grab the attention of every American: "If Islamist extremist groups are successful in preventing a legitimate government from flourishing in Iraq, the country could become a permanent base for al Qaeda to recruit, train and conduct operations against non-Islamic governments in the region, and eventually the United States."

Try as it might, the White House cannot conceal the plain-sight reality that the mess in Iraq is a growing danger to the world.
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Even the congresscritters don't have the FULL report, A.C., and neither does this article.

It SUMMARIZES the report!

Dayum that bush!!

1rof1


Your link says:

"The White House, maintaining that the full nine-page SUMMARY of “key judgements’’ of government intelligence agencies supports the president’s public contentions that U.S. efforts in combatting terrorism have succeeded in “dispersing’’ and weakening terrorist organizations,"...blah, blah, blah.


Bush trumped your 'leak' by declassifying the entire report instead of just the handpicked 'leaked' parts...

Lets see what the entire report says...

[link to newsblogs.chicagotribune.com]
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Oh, the laughs are yet to come, dearies. I see Congress wants a closed door session, and the answer is "nope". Now, we'll see both sides of the aisle for what they REALLY are.
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Oh, the laughs are yet to come, dearies. I see Congress wants a closed door session, and the answer is "nope". Now, we'll see both sides of the aisle for what they REALLY are.
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Hang on a sec, I misinformed: PELOSI wants the closed door in the House, REID in the Senate. Ahhh, I love it.

Not only will we see the whole deal, we will see who leaked to the press! This is GOT to be good.
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khosanna, this news HAS to be setting DC rockin' and rollin' on their collective heels.

There is NO WAY Rove can do damage control on this news. No way.



Oh, the laughs are yet to come, dearies. I see Congress wants a closed door session, and the answer is "nope". Now, we'll see both sides of the aisle for what they REALLY are.
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See, khosanna??

They are chitting their pants!!

cheer


Oh, the laughs are yet to come, dearies. I see Congress wants a closed door session, and the answer is "nope". Now, we'll see both sides of the aisle for what they REALLY are.


Hang on a sec, I misinformed: PELOSI wants the closed door in the House, REID in the Senate. Ahhh, I love it.

Not only will we see the whole deal, we will see who leaked to the press! This is GOT to be good.
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Even the congresscritters don't have the FULL report, A.C., and neither does this article.

It SUMMARIZES the report!
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Clearly you don't even know what 'report' you are talking about...

The 'report' that had selected portions 'leaked' was a National Intelligence Assesment from April of 2005...There is no "FULL report" as you seem to think...The NIE in question is a 'summary' of the findings of 16 various agencies who must submit assesments of their own...

The 'leaked' portion was one paragraph of a 9 page 'summary' of the findings from 16 agencies...

Lets wait to see what the entire 9 pages say and where that one paragraph falls in the entire context..

M'kay?
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Breaking news! War with Japan has dramatically increased Japanese suicide bombers. Maybe we should have given up then and just "talked" to the Japanese?
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Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, A.C. 35140.

The National Intelligence Estimate was April 2006.

Read what Democratic Whip Reid has to say:

[link to releases.usnewswire.com]

Reid: the Senate Must Have Answers About the Effects of War in Iraq

9/26/2006 3:04:00 PM


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To: National Desk

Contact: Jim Manley or Rebecca Kirszner, 202-224-2939, both of the Office of Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid

WASHINGTON, Sept. 26 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid today sent the following letter to Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, urging the Republican leader to join in calling for the authors of the recently-leaked National Intelligence Estimate -- which reportedly concludes the war in Iraq has increased the threat of terrorism -- to provide all senators with a classified briefing on the conclusions of their report. In the fourth year of war in Iraq, it is critical that the Congress ensure America has the tough and smart policies needed to best defend this country and to better fight the war on terror, said Reid's office, policies that must be based on a full and accurate understanding of the true conditions on the ground in Iraq and the global effects of failed policies in that country.

The text of the letter is below:

September 26, 2006

Senator William H. Frist

Majority Leader

United States Senate

The Capitol

Washington, D.C. 205010

Dear Senator Frist:

This weekend the media described an important April 2006 National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) analyzing trends in global terrorism. The NIE was prepared by the 16 agencies that comprise the U.S. intelligence community and represents our government's most authoritative assessment of this issue. These public accounts indicate the NIE made a number of key judgments about the administration's efforts in the war on terror, including a conclusion that the war in Iraq, rather than stemming the growth of terrorism, has helped fuel its spread across the globe.

While such a judgment would be consistent with views I have heard expressed in many counterterrorism and Iraq briefings, the White House has said the media coverage of the NIE "is not representative of the complete document." Director of National Intelligence Negroponte also issued a statement that "viewing (the conclusions of the Intelligence Community) through the narrow prism of a fraction of judgments distorts the broad framework they create."

In light of the significance of the issues covered by the NIE and the apparent differences over what it says, I think it is important that we work together to make this information available to members and the American public so they can judge for themselves. Therefore, I ask that you join with me to request that the authors of this assessment provide all senators a classified briefing this week.

In addition, as you know, the administration has previously declassified numerous intelligence products when it has been in the public interest to do so and it can be done without harming sources and methods. I believe both conditions apply with respect to all or nearly all of the text of this NIE. I also hope, therefore, that you will add your voice to the growing chorus of senators calling for the entire NIE to be declassified so that this important public debate can be based on the facts.

Sincerely,

Harry Reid

[link to www.usnewswire.com]

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Even the congresscritters don't have the FULL report, A.C., and neither does this article.

It SUMMARIZES the report!

Clearly you don't even know what 'report' you are talking about...

The 'report' that had selected portions 'leaked' was a National Intelligence Assesment from April of 2005...There is no "FULL report" as you seem to think...The NIE in question is a 'summary' of the findings of 16 various agencies who must submit assesments of their own...

The 'leaked' portion was one paragraph of a 9 page 'summary' of the findings from 16 agencies...

Lets wait to see what the entire 9 pages say and where that one paragraph falls in the entire context..

M'kay?
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Mathetes, one cannot compare WWII with this sham war based on lies in Iraq.

thwak

Besides, no war is good.

And, speaking of WWII, how about that Roosevelt KNOWING, in advance, about Pearl Harbor?

[link to www.thenewamerican.com]

The raid on Pearl Harbor took the U.S. Pacific Fleet by surprise, but back in Washington, the Roosevelt administration was fully aware of the coming onslaught.

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More at link.

Breaking news! War with Japan has dramatically increased Japanese suicide bombers. Maybe we should have given up then and just "talked" to the Japanese?
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So I fucked up the date...BFD...

rolleyes

The issue is that the NIE in question is a 9 page 'summary' of the findings of 16 agencies...

The leaked portion was 1 paragraph...
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This is going to be soooooo good!!

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So I fucked up the date...BFD...

rolleyes

The issue is that the NIE in question is a 9 page 'summary' of the findings of 16 agencies...

The leaked portion was 1 paragraph...
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This is pure bullshit

Who would want to attack us after we've killed their family and destroyed their world?

They should be dancing on the streets full of joy because we've "helped" them

If anyone actually believed that a pre-emptive war based on bullshit would actually win the hearts and minds of the people was smoking some really strong shit, and to think that some Americans still believe this is the right thing to be doing is insanely disgusting

Oh well, stay the course, who's going to change the course, not anyone here
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This is going to be soooooo good!!
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Almost as good as all those super-secret, secret-squirrel sealed indictments from Fitzy...

1rof1
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Mathetes, one cannot compare WWII with this sham war based on lies in Iraq.

thwak

Besides, no war is good.

And, speaking of WWII, how about that Roosevelt KNOWING, in advance, about Pearl Harbor?

[link to www.thenewamerican.com]

The raid on Pearl Harbor took the U.S. Pacific Fleet by surprise, but back in Washington, the Roosevelt administration was fully aware of the coming onslaught.

****

More at link.


Breaking news! War with Japan has dramatically increased Japanese suicide bombers. Maybe we should have given up then and just "talked" to the Japanese?

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So EVERYTHING is a conspiracy, amazing how someone on GLP can discover the secrets of history when scholars around the world can't!
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Judging by the pathetic source and the unknown socialist publication my guess is that this is just more wasted time, paper and band width.

Drean on, Duh.





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