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Anyone use K&W fiber head gasket repair?

 
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Anyone use K&W fiber head gasket repair?
I'm mechanically inclined, have rebuilt numerous engines, just don't have time currently with other projects going on, and frankly it probably is not worth it. I have a Honda Civic that is 16 years old, been a good car, taken care of religiously... anyways, I get a misfire in cylinder 1 yesterday, and over the past few months have noticed small amounts of coolant missing, thought perhaps it was a slight leak out one of the hoses, that was evaporating out - not making a puddle.

Anyways, misfire, and bubbles coming out over flow tank hose... yep blown head gasket...

No water in oil, oil clean. So, seems it is slightly leaking into cylinder 1.

I said what the hell, and used the DuPoint K&W fiber head gasket repair with "nano technology". I have to say, this morning I had no misfire and the vehicle actually ran very well. I know Honda's for that year had issues with the headgasket at cylinder 1. Anyone use the K&W product, and if so, how long have you been using it without issue? Will probably look for a pre owned certified Hyundai here in the next few months, god willing if the gasket holds...
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does this have anything to do with your actual job? if not stfu get back to work i needs my food stamp
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Good luck. All I do know with those products is don't let the Rad get low for other reasons it will seal up stuff you might not want sealed. Again good luck on the fix and search for a new ride.
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trust me don't do it clogs the radiator and makes things worse pull the head have it pressure tested and milled if it isn't cracked.no easy repair for that do the job right the first time5a5a
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I would look at it a band aid at best. Keep a close eye on the temp gauge and do not let it run hot. I used some fuel additives, but I've never thought much of "pour a tune up" or "liquid engine restorer."
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Yeah, it works for a while, but the rest of the cooling system is junk now. It buys you some time, is all. I had it work for a year before I finally rebuilt the engine. I was in Seattle, where it doesn't get too hot, though.

You get a couple months in a daily commuter and then it dies again.
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does this have anything to do with your actual job? if not stfu get back to work i needs my food stamp
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I have used it before. Do not let the system pressurize. Click coolant/rad cap to first click, and check level every few days. This will make the "patch" last longer.
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Yeah, it works for a while, but the rest of the cooling system is junk now. It buys you some time, is all. I had it work for a year before I finally rebuilt the engine. I was in Seattle, where it doesn't get too hot, though.

You get a couple months in a daily commuter and then it dies again.
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Have you tried it? I see several reviews wherein some have said they got another 50K miles or so, and then sold the car and it kept going...

Radiator and coolant system is new (couple years old on radiator), try to flush it out every year or so. I guess I can run it for a couple hundred miles and then flush the system out?

DuPoints web site indicates that whatever they use (copper?) actually bridges the pin hole and fuses to the gasket? Thanks for the feed back... anyone else?

Also, thoughts on fixing the headgasket at this stage, or do most agree it simply is not worth it?
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trust me don't do it clogs the radiator and makes things worse pull the head have it pressure tested and milled if it isn't cracked.no easy repair for that do the job right the first time5a5a
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And I'm inclined to agree with this, simply because it's a Honda product.
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I have used it before. Do not let the system pressurize. Click coolant/rad cap to first click, and check level every few days. This will make the "patch" last longer.
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Well I used it last night and had the cap off for a while, while it idled and heated up, then replaced cap as coolant was coming out filler neck due to expansion... was that ok?
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trust me don't do it clogs the radiator and makes things worse pull the head have it pressure tested and milled if it isn't cracked.no easy repair for that do the job right the first time5a5a
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And I'm inclined to agree with this, simply because it's a Honda product.
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Yea, but car is worth about 2K on a good day according to blue book, and even if I did the work myself I'm looking probably at 1k or less to fix... not including my time...

Might actually be cheaper to buy a pre owned car with a 10 year warranty... and sell the Honda for a few hundred bucks...
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I have used it before. Do not let the system pressurize. Click coolant/rad cap to first click, and check level every few days. This will make the "patch" last longer.
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Well I used it last night and had the cap off for a while, while it idled and heated up, then replaced cap as coolant was coming out filler neck due to expansion... was that ok?
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Yes. You want all of the air out, but like a pressure cooker, if it is not air tight, it will loose a bit. That is the trade off on the KW working longer. No pressurization in the cooling system is easier on the area the KW sealed.
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I have used it before. Do not let the system pressurize. Click coolant/rad cap to first click, and check level every few days. This will make the "patch" last longer.
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Well I used it last night and had the cap off for a while, while it idled and heated up, then replaced cap as coolant was coming out filler neck due to expansion... was that ok?
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Yes. You want all of the air out, but like a pressure cooker, if it is not air tight, it will loose a bit. That is the trade off on the KW working longer. No pressurization in the cooling system is easier on the area the KW sealed.
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Thanks. How much time did you get before the gasket completely failed, or is it still running, and how many miles later? Thanks again!
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does this have anything to do with your actual job? if not stfu get back to work i needs my food stamp
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I have used it before. Do not let the system pressurize. Click coolant/rad cap to first click, and check level every few days. This will make the "patch" last longer.
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Well I used it last night and had the cap off for a while, while it idled and heated up, then replaced cap as coolant was coming out filler neck due to expansion... was that ok?
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Yes. You want all of the air out, but like a pressure cooker, if it is not air tight, it will loose a bit. That is the trade off on the KW working longer. No pressurization in the cooling system is easier on the area the KW sealed.
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Thanks. How much time did you get before the gasket completely failed, or is it still running, and how many miles later? Thanks again!
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I have seen it last 20-30k miles. Good luck, and your welcome.
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Well I used it last night and had the cap off for a while, while it idled and heated up, then replaced cap as coolant was coming out filler neck due to expansion... was that ok?
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Yes. You want all of the air out, but like a pressure cooker, if it is not air tight, it will loose a bit. That is the trade off on the KW working longer. No pressurization in the cooling system is easier on the area the KW sealed.
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Thanks. How much time did you get before the gasket completely failed, or is it still running, and how many miles later? Thanks again!
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I have seen it last 20-30k miles. Good luck, and your welcome.
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Sounds good to me. I noticed when I shut the engine off this morning I heard a gurgle noise. Is that trapped air in the system from when I released some coolant to make room for the 8 ounces of K&W? I hope it is not exhaust gasses, but I never heard the gurgle until this morning, so I'm thinking the system is burping...
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A rebuilt head is around 300 bucks if your trade in isn't cracked and a head gasket set about 80 dollars. You MIGHT be able to find wrecked car with a good head, but don't count on that.

Spend the money and have a friend come over and help you when you have a weekend off and you should be able to fix the honda. Take photographs at every stage to see where all the hoses and crap go. It's isn't that hard at all really, but you need a good torque wrench and be sure to clean the head bolt holes in the block really good with a tap and USE NEW HEAD BOLTS.Don't try to cut corners by leaving out this 40 dollar expense. It sounds to me like even if your car isn't worth a lot on blue book, it is still worth fixing to you. Be sure to flush that gunk you put in it out of it, it works for a short time at best and clogs everything up and restricts coolant flow. Repairs like this can hold against the pressure of the coolant easily, but your leak is between the combustion chamber and the coolant passages and no bs repair can hold against the pressure of the combustion chamber for very long.
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Yes. You want all of the air out, but like a pressure cooker, if it is not air tight, it will loose a bit. That is the trade off on the KW working longer. No pressurization in the cooling system is easier on the area the KW sealed.
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Thanks. How much time did you get before the gasket completely failed, or is it still running, and how many miles later? Thanks again!
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I have seen it last 20-30k miles. Good luck, and your welcome.
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Sounds good to me. I noticed when I shut the engine off this morning I heard a gurgle noise. Is that trapped air in the system from when I released some coolant to make room for the 8 ounces of K&W? I hope it is not exhaust gasses, but I never heard the gurgle until this morning, so I'm thinking the system is burping...
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The gurgling sound is air. Start the car w/ the rad cap off. NEVER add water or coolant to a running temp engine w/o it running. Let it get to operating temp and add water or coolant until it is full and hot. Like I said earlier, click the cap to the first click. It will keep the water from sloshing out at higher rpm's. You will need to keep an eye on the level because it will evaporate because of no seal on the system. Pain in the ass? Yes. But it will prolong the life of the patch.
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BTW, I think it is prudent to explain that this repair you used will only fix a leak between the water passages and the oil passages right. If you had coolant in the oil and no sign of gasses in the cooling system the fix you used can and will work pretty good if you flush the crap out when the leak stops. But it can never hold against the pressure in the combustion chamber for very long. I predict within a day or so you will be right back where you were.
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sell the piece of shit
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Thanks. How much time did you get before the gasket completely failed, or is it still running, and how many miles later? Thanks again!
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I have seen it last 20-30k miles. Good luck, and your welcome.
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Sounds good to me. I noticed when I shut the engine off this morning I heard a gurgle noise. Is that trapped air in the system from when I released some coolant to make room for the 8 ounces of K&W? I hope it is not exhaust gasses, but I never heard the gurgle until this morning, so I'm thinking the system is burping...
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The gurgling sound is air. Start the car w/ the rad cap off. NEVER add water or coolant to a running temp engine w/o it running. Let it get to operating temp and add water or coolant until it is full and hot. Like I said earlier, click the cap to the first click. It will keep the water from sloshing out at higher rpm's. You will need to keep an eye on the level because it will evaporate because of no seal on the system. Pain in the ass? Yes. But it will prolong the life of the patch.
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The gurgling is combustion gasses in the cooling system.Nothing he does will stop it until he replaces he head gasket/repairs head.

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BTW, I think it is prudent to explain that this repair you used will only fix a leak between the water passages and the oil passages right. If you had coolant in the oil and no sign of gasses in the cooling system the fix you used can and will work pretty good if you flush the crap out when the leak stops. But it can never hold against the pressure in the combustion chamber for very long. I predict within a day or so you will be right back where you were.
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DuPoint specifically indicated that the fix is not appropriate for coolant to oil leaks, and indicated that coolant to chamber leaks is what the product was designed for...
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Thanks. How much time did you get before the gasket completely failed, or is it still running, and how many miles later? Thanks again!
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I have seen it last 20-30k miles. Good luck, and your welcome.
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Sounds good to me. I noticed when I shut the engine off this morning I heard a gurgle noise. Is that trapped air in the system from when I released some coolant to make room for the 8 ounces of K&W? I hope it is not exhaust gasses, but I never heard the gurgle until this morning, so I'm thinking the system is burping...
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The gurgling sound is air. Start the car w/ the rad cap off. NEVER add water or coolant to a running temp engine w/o it running. Let it get to operating temp and add water or coolant until it is full and hot. Like I said earlier, click the cap to the first click. It will keep the water from sloshing out at higher rpm's. You will need to keep an eye on the level because it will evaporate because of no seal on the system. Pain in the ass? Yes. But it will prolong the life of the patch.
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This is mostly wrong.If you are low on coolant,let the engine cool down completely before adding it. Dont try to add cold coolant to a hot runnign engine, the aluminum head will contract rapidly and either crack or blow the gasket. The best and only good way to add coolant is to fill the reservoir with a cold engine,let it run until the thermostat opens and starts to circulate, then slowly top it off.
The last thing you want to do is add coolant to a hot running engine is it is too low to cool right.

Also the pressure in the cooling system won't blow the crap out, it is what forces it into place in the first place. It is the pressure of combustion you are working against,as evidenced by gasses in the coolant.By what you have said you have accomplished nothing.
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BTW, I think it is prudent to explain that this repair you used will only fix a leak between the water passages and the oil passages right. If you had coolant in the oil and no sign of gasses in the cooling system the fix you used can and will work pretty good if you flush the crap out when the leak stops. But it can never hold against the pressure in the combustion chamber for very long. I predict within a day or so you will be right back where you were.
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DuPoint specifically indicated that the fix is not appropriate for coolant to oil leaks, and indicated that coolant to chamber leaks is what the product was designed for...
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Don't pay attention to the know it all AC. It's a $8. patch that may, or may not work. Roll with it, as it will not cost you more if it doesn't work.
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BTW, I think it is prudent to explain that this repair you used will only fix a leak between the water passages and the oil passages right. If you had coolant in the oil and no sign of gasses in the cooling system the fix you used can and will work pretty good if you flush the crap out when the leak stops. But it can never hold against the pressure in the combustion chamber for very long. I predict within a day or so you will be right back where you were.
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DuPoint specifically indicated that the fix is not appropriate for coolant to oil leaks, and indicated that coolant to chamber leaks is what the product was designed for...
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No possible. Simply not possible. Even though some coolant is leaking into the combustion chamber on the intake stroke,the pressure in the combustion chamber is many many times the coolant pressure. This repair cannot and will not work as claimed. It's like the engine restore in a can,or "motor honey", it doesn't actually do anything but ruin your engine in the long run and to be blunt the way these mechanical snake oils are marketed is because people like you are foolish enough to believe cheap easy fix can work..
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BTW, I think it is prudent to explain that this repair you used will only fix a leak between the water passages and the oil passages right. If you had coolant in the oil and no sign of gasses in the cooling system the fix you used can and will work pretty good if you flush the crap out when the leak stops. But it can never hold against the pressure in the combustion chamber for very long. I predict within a day or so you will be right back where you were.
 Quoting: IDW 70286421


DuPoint specifically indicated that the fix is not appropriate for coolant to oil leaks, and indicated that coolant to chamber leaks is what the product was designed for...
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Don't pay attention to the know it all AC. It's a $8. patch that may, or may not work. Roll with it, as it will not cost you more if it doesn't work.
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Yea. Not worried. If it goes, it goes, and will sell it for a few hundred, some kids project car...
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BTW, I think it is prudent to explain that this repair you used will only fix a leak between the water passages and the oil passages right. If you had coolant in the oil and no sign of gasses in the cooling system the fix you used can and will work pretty good if you flush the crap out when the leak stops. But it can never hold against the pressure in the combustion chamber for very long. I predict within a day or so you will be right back where you were.
 Quoting: IDW 70286421


DuPoint specifically indicated that the fix is not appropriate for coolant to oil leaks, and indicated that coolant to chamber leaks is what the product was designed for...
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Don't pay attention to the know it all AC. It's a $8. patch that may, or may not work. Roll with it, as it will not cost you more if it doesn't work.
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It already hasn't worked

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The gurgling in the coolant is combustion gasses
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BTW, I think it is prudent to explain that this repair you used will only fix a leak between the water passages and the oil passages right. If you had coolant in the oil and no sign of gasses in the cooling system the fix you used can and will work pretty good if you flush the crap out when the leak stops. But it can never hold against the pressure in the combustion chamber for very long. I predict within a day or so you will be right back where you were.
 Quoting: IDW 70286421


DuPoint specifically indicated that the fix is not appropriate for coolant to oil leaks, and indicated that coolant to chamber leaks is what the product was designed for...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65665023


Don't pay attention to the know it all AC. It's a $8. patch that may, or may not work. Roll with it, as it will not cost you more if it doesn't work.
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Yea. Not worried. If it goes, it goes, and will sell it for a few hundred, some kids project car...
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Shit if it is is good shape otherwise a mechanically inclined kid will buy it for 1500
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BTW, I think it is prudent to explain that this repair you used will only fix a leak between the water passages and the oil passages right. If you had coolant in the oil and no sign of gasses in the cooling system the fix you used can and will work pretty good if you flush the crap out when the leak stops. But it can never hold against the pressure in the combustion chamber for very long. I predict within a day or so you will be right back where you were.
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DuPoint specifically indicated that the fix is not appropriate for coolant to oil leaks, and indicated that coolant to chamber leaks is what the product was designed for...
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Don't pay attention to the know it all AC. It's a $8. patch that may, or may not work. Roll with it, as it will not cost you more if it doesn't work.
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It already hasn't worked

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The gurgling in the coolant is combustion gasses
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I don't think so, as I never heard it until yesterday after dumping coolant to pour the repair liquid in. Prior to that, I did not hear any gurgling...

I am not getting air bubbles out of the overflow tank tube like before..





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