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User ID: 69613688 Canada 09/14/2015 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the power goes out, you look down at your cell phone and it's completely fried. At this point you know it's an EMP and because you are a GLPer you already have run through this scenario. Assuming your vehicle still works, what are the first three things you do? My three Quoting: Black Unit 1. Locate and gather the family 2. Fill every container I can find with water 3. Spend any cash on hand on more food What are your 3? If the EMP happens, and your family is not ready, YOU ARE DEAD. Its that simple. |
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cosmicgypsy
User ID: 68929326 United States 09/14/2015 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would just add light sources onto your list, otherwise water is so very important...with gathering family is a given, if you've one to gather. And I think I would exchange a fire source for going out and spending money on food. It'll crazy mayhem outside you're home. You should have a store of food already. So, for me, since I don't live close enough to family to gather them-- 1) Fill every vessel possible with water to supplement the store of water I already have. 2) Flashlights and candles. 3) Lighters and matches. You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9707572 United States 09/14/2015 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the power goes out, you look down at your cell phone and it's completely fried. At this point you know it's an EMP and because you are a GLPer you already have run through this scenario. Assuming your vehicle still works, what are the first three things you do? My three Quoting: Black Unit 1. Locate and gather the family 2. Fill every container I can find with water 3. Spend any cash on hand on more food What are your 3? If the EMP happens, and your family is not ready, YOU ARE DEAD. Its that simple. Well, in that case......I hope my spouse is stuck in traffic. |
cosmicgypsy
User ID: 68929326 United States 09/14/2015 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions? You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70330199 United States 09/14/2015 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions? Quoting: cosmicgypsy Exactly, no stores would be open. All cash registers today are computer based and would be fried... The only thing going on at stores would be looting... Best to stay home and put your EMP action plans into practice... Getting water may not be a viable option for some. City water pumps will fail. Depending on the strength of the EMP pulse, their diesel backup generators could be fried... People with well water could find that their well pumps are burned up by the E3 pulse. Best to have plenty of water on hand to last at least 5 or 6 months. That will give you time to wait it out and set up your backup plans for the well. Some people have filters that could filter dirty water to make it potable. That is a viable solution, unless the rain water/run off becomes radio active. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70330199 United States 09/14/2015 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions? Quoting: cosmicgypsy Stores will most likely take cash the first few days, since the attendants are too mentally numb to notice an EMP occurred. Good luck on attendants showing up for work. Your lucky to get them to come to work even when their vehicles are working. After an EMP, nobody gets paid... No ticky, no shirty.... Nobody works for free.... |
cosmicgypsy
User ID: 68929326 United States 09/14/2015 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions? Quoting: cosmicgypsy Did you ever read "One Second After"? Nope. What does the book relate about going to a store to make purchases? Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions? Quoting: cosmicgypsy Stores will most likely take cash the first few days, since the attendants are too mentally numb to notice an EMP occurred. Don't you think there's going to be danger on the streets to try and get through? I do. I'd rather not have to go out in public after a disaster, and I won't need to. And while there may be some stores attempting to do business, if they haven't already been robbed of everything, I think there are going to be more store owners gathering their families and taking care of their own after such an EMP hit and disaster. You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70240972 Canada 09/14/2015 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vehicles won't work unless they are really old and have a carburetor. Cars have had ECU's for 20+ years now. All fuel injected cars rely on one. Really the only way you'll survive is if you have: - A house in a fairly rural area - Weapons and lots of ammo to defend yourself(and at least one person awake at all times) - A lot of trees nearby for firewood(in Canada at least, it gets cold!) - Enough food and water for several months(does anyone actually do this?) Gardens and livestock would help, but people will try to steal it. Farms would become very obvious targets. Living near areas with wild animals might also be helpful, but hunting would be extremely dangerous. There would be lots of other people with guns, who might be desperate enough to eat humans... I bet 99.9% of so-called "preppers" are not prepared to survive an EMP... |
Zedakah
User ID: 58407142 United States 09/14/2015 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions? Quoting: cosmicgypsy Stores will most likely take cash the first few days, since the attendants are too mentally numb to notice an EMP occurred. Good luck on attendants showing up for work. Your lucky to get them to come to work even when their vehicles are working. After an EMP, nobody gets paid... No ticky, no shirty.... Nobody works for free.... Most people will still be attending the stores during an EMP. And the second day, the looters come, so you have to be quick. Also, since you don't know the actual strength of the EMP, you don't know how many vehicles will work. Maybe 90% will be gone, maybe 50%. Maybe disconnecting the battery and resetting the CPU will get the car going, maybe not. There's no one EMP scenario to prepare for, so that's why you prepare for the worst. That said, the worst probably won't happen, but somewhere between. |
Black Unit
(OP) User ID: 64139420 United States 09/14/2015 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions? Quoting: cosmicgypsy I live in the country. There are plenty of small mom and pop food stores,corner stores. If you have cash you might as well get rid of it. Either that or save it for tp |
Zedakah
User ID: 58407142 United States 09/14/2015 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't you think there's going to be danger on the streets to try and get through? I do. I'd rather not have to go out in public after a disaster, and I won't need to. Quoting: cosmicgypsy And while there may be some stores attempting to do business, if they haven't already been robbed of everything, I think there are going to be more store owners gathering their families and taking care of their own after such an EMP hit and disaster. The majority of people where I live will stick their fingers up their bums for about 3 days until they run out of food/water. I live 1/2 mile away from some good local stores, so I can walk there and ride the shopping cart back if needed in under an hour. I also have access to a fleet services and hopefully can find at least one vehicle of the hundreds that will work if mine or my neighbors won't start. |
cosmicgypsy
User ID: 68929326 United States 09/14/2015 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions? Quoting: cosmicgypsy Stores will most likely take cash the first few days, since the attendants are too mentally numb to notice an EMP occurred. Good luck on attendants showing up for work. Your lucky to get them to come to work even when their vehicles are working. After an EMP, nobody gets paid... No ticky, no shirty.... Nobody works for free.... Most people will still be attending the stores during an EMP. And the second day, the looters come, so you have to be quick. Also, since you don't know the actual strength of the EMP, you don't know how many vehicles will work. Maybe 90% will be gone, maybe 50%. Maybe disconnecting the battery and resetting the CPU will get the car going, maybe not. There's no one EMP scenario to prepare for, so that's why you prepare for the worst. That said, the worst probably won't happen, but somewhere between. You probably don't realize that an EMP pulse that would shut down technology is also going to affect people's brain functions. If a strong EMP pulse hits people are going to become ill and/or crazed very quickly. You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Black Unit
(OP) User ID: 64139420 United States 09/14/2015 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vehicles won't work unless they are really old and have a carburetor. Cars have had ECU's for 20+ years now. All fuel injected cars rely on one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70240972 Really the only way you'll survive is if you have: - A house in a fairly rural area - Weapons and lots of ammo to defend yourself(and at least one person awake at all times) - A lot of trees nearby for firewood(in Canada at least, it gets cold!) - Enough food and water for several months(does anyone actually do this?) Gardens and livestock would help, but people will try to steal it. Farms would become very obvious targets. Living near areas with wild animals might also be helpful, but hunting would be extremely dangerous. There would be lots of other people with guns, who might be desperate enough to eat humans... I bet 99.9% of so-called "preppers" are not prepared to survive an EMP... I am. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70309584 United States 09/14/2015 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions? Quoting: cosmicgypsy Did you ever read "One Second After"? Nope. What does the book relate about going to a store to make purchases? Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions? Quoting: cosmicgypsy Stores will most likely take cash the first few days, since the attendants are too mentally numb to notice an EMP occurred. Don't you think there's going to be danger on the streets to try and get through? I do. I'd rather not have to go out in public after a disaster, and I won't need to. And while there may be some stores attempting to do business, if they haven't already been robbed of everything, I think there are going to be more store owners gathering their families and taking care of their own after such an EMP hit and disaster. far as I remember, not long. Medicines ran out fast. Nursing homes, people keeled over fast. You really need to read this book. Its not woo woo...very realistic scenario. |
cosmicgypsy
User ID: 68929326 United States 09/14/2015 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't you think there's going to be danger on the streets to try and get through? I do. I'd rather not have to go out in public after a disaster, and I won't need to. Quoting: cosmicgypsy And while there may be some stores attempting to do business, if they haven't already been robbed of everything, I think there are going to be more store owners gathering their families and taking care of their own after such an EMP hit and disaster. The majority of people where I live will stick their fingers up their bums for about 3 days until they run out of food/water. I live 1/2 mile away from some good local stores, so I can walk there and ride the shopping cart back if needed in under an hour. I also have access to a fleet services and hopefully can find at least one vehicle of the hundreds that will work if mine or my neighbors won't start. Hookay, you don't want to prepare in advance and take your chances "out there," your choice. You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Zedakah
User ID: 58407142 United States 09/14/2015 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You probably don't realize that an EMP pulse that would shut down technology is also going to affect people's brain functions. Quoting: cosmicgypsy If a strong EMP pulse hits people are going to become ill and/or crazed very quickly. I live in a college town in a "diverse" area in the deep South. I have to deal with that scenario on a daily basis. I also never leave my place unprepared, since I hear gunshots from my apartment about as often as the bands practicing. Hookay, you don't want to prepare in advance and take your chances "out there," your choice. Quoting: cosmicgypsy I make under $20k a year in a tiny apartment. I'm as prepared as I can possibly be with my resources. I've got enough preps to stuff my vehicle full and head out with spare room for big bags of rice/beans and other things to buy. I do have a family safe zone that is ultra prepared as long as I can get there. Last Edited by Zedakah on 09/14/2015 09:57 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70224143 Canada 09/14/2015 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Find as many working vehicles as possible, then start loading them up with supplies to take to our safe place. (which includes buying up 50lb bags of rice/flour/sugar from local stores). Quoting: Zedakah If you actually have a car that works after an EMP the last thing in the world you would want to do is go out looking for food in it. Cover it in tree branches, whatever you can find to cover it if you don't have a garage and wait it out. It will be the most valuable commodity in your state in no time flat, and if you think those hispanic gardeners who come around and leaf blow once a month don't know your every damn move you're mistaken. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70330754 United Arab Emirates 09/14/2015 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most stores wont be functioning if they can't scan the bar codes. I do know of a thrift bakery that may still function & the tobacco shop (possibly). I would most likely: 1- drive my truck to the back yard (hide it). 2- load every rifle/shot gun & lock the gate & doors. 3- fill every imaginable container with water. Once all that was done I would start concerning myself with family. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70330199 United States 09/14/2015 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions? Quoting: cosmicgypsy Stores will most likely take cash the first few days, since the attendants are too mentally numb to notice an EMP occurred. Good luck on attendants showing up for work. Your lucky to get them to come to work even when their vehicles are working. After an EMP, nobody gets paid... No ticky, no shirty.... Nobody works for free.... Most people will still be attending the stores during an EMP. And the second day, the looters come, so you have to be quick. Also, since you don't know the actual strength of the EMP, you don't know how many vehicles will work. Maybe 90% will be gone, maybe 50%. Maybe disconnecting the battery and resetting the CPU will get the car going, maybe not. There's no one EMP scenario to prepare for, so that's why you prepare for the worst. That said, the worst probably won't happen, but somewhere between. All gas stations will be closed. How many people typically have a full tank of gas at any given time.... If you leave your car in a store parking lot, people will steal your gas. If you catch them and say anything, they will shoot you.... Best not to risk any ventures, away from your home, after an EMP unless it is to get relatives to safety.... |
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