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first three things after an EMP?

 
Black Unit

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first three things after an EMP?
So the power goes out, you look down at your cell phone and it's completely fried. At this point you know it's an EMP and because you are a GLPer you already have run through this scenario. Assuming your vehicle still works, what are the first three things you do? My three

1. Locate and gather the family
2. Fill every container I can find with water
3. Spend any cash on hand on more food

What are your 3?
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Re: first three things after an EMP?
So the power goes out, you look down at your cell phone and it's completely fried. At this point you know it's an EMP and because you are a GLPer you already have run through this scenario. Assuming your vehicle still works, what are the first three things you do? My three

1. Locate and gather the family
2. Fill every container I can find with water
3. Spend any cash on hand on more food

What are your 3?
 Quoting: Black Unit


If the EMP happens, and your family is not ready, YOU ARE DEAD.

Its that simple.
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Re: first three things after an EMP?
Find as many working vehicles as possible, then start loading them up with supplies to take to our safe place. (which includes buying up 50lb bags of rice/flour/sugar from local stores).
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Re: first three things after an EMP?
I would just add light sources onto your list, otherwise water is so very important...with gathering family is a given, if you've one to gather.

And I think I would exchange a fire source for going out and spending money on food. It'll crazy mayhem outside you're home. You should have a store of food already.

So, for me, since I don't live close enough to family to gather them--

1) Fill every vessel possible with water to supplement the store of water I already have.

2) Flashlights and candles.

3) Lighters and matches.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller


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Re: first three things after an EMP?
So the power goes out, you look down at your cell phone and it's completely fried. At this point you know it's an EMP and because you are a GLPer you already have run through this scenario. Assuming your vehicle still works, what are the first three things you do? My three

1. Locate and gather the family
2. Fill every container I can find with water
3. Spend any cash on hand on more food

What are your 3?
 Quoting: Black Unit


If the EMP happens, and your family is not ready, YOU ARE DEAD.

Its that simple.
 Quoting: Woot Woot


Well, in that case......I hope my spouse is stuck in traffic. tounge
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Re: first three things after an EMP?
Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions?
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller


...I adapt to the unknown,
under wandering stars I've grown,
by myself, but not alone...

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09/14/2015 09:34 PM
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Re: first three things after an EMP?
I will grab my bug out bag and hit the river with my kayak and telescopic rod. Do not pack food. Food is free and plentiful. Pack vitamins in your bug out bag though and for Christ sakes have a good water source
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Re: first three things after an EMP?
Also get crossbow and bow. These are essential
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09/14/2015 09:37 PM
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Re: first three things after an EMP?
Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions?
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Did you ever read "One Second After"?
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Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions?
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Stores will most likely take cash the first few days, since the attendants are too mentally numb to notice an EMP occurred.
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Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions?
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy



Exactly, no stores would be open. All cash registers today are computer based and would be fried...

The only thing going on at stores would be looting...

Best to stay home and put your EMP action plans into practice...

Getting water may not be a viable option for some. City water pumps will fail. Depending on the strength of the EMP pulse, their diesel backup generators could be fried...
People with well water could find that their well pumps are burned up by the E3 pulse.

Best to have plenty of water on hand to last at least 5 or 6 months. That will give you time to wait it out and set up your backup plans for the well. Some people have filters that could filter dirty water to make it potable. That is a viable solution, unless the rain water/run off becomes radio active.
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Re: first three things after an EMP?
Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions?
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Stores will most likely take cash the first few days, since the attendants are too mentally numb to notice an EMP occurred.
 Quoting: Zedakah



Good luck on attendants showing up for work. Your lucky to get them to come to work even when their vehicles are working. After an EMP, nobody gets paid...

No ticky, no shirty....

Nobody works for free....
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Re: first three things after an EMP?
Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions?
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Did you ever read "One Second After"?
 Quoting: Michele B



Nope. What does the book relate about going to a store to make purchases?



Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions?
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Stores will most likely take cash the first few days, since the attendants are too mentally numb to notice an EMP occurred.
 Quoting: Zedakah



Don't you think there's going to be danger on the streets to try and get through? I do. I'd rather not have to go out in public after a disaster, and I won't need to.

And while there may be some stores attempting to do business, if they haven't already been robbed of everything, I think there are going to be more store owners gathering their families and taking care of their own after such an EMP hit and disaster.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller


...I adapt to the unknown,
under wandering stars I've grown,
by myself, but not alone...

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Re: first three things after an EMP?
Vehicles won't work unless they are really old and have a carburetor. Cars have had ECU's for 20+ years now. All fuel injected cars rely on one.

Really the only way you'll survive is if you have:

- A house in a fairly rural area
- Weapons and lots of ammo to defend yourself(and at least one person awake at all times)
- A lot of trees nearby for firewood(in Canada at least, it gets cold!)
- Enough food and water for several months(does anyone actually do this?)

Gardens and livestock would help, but people will try to steal it. Farms would become very obvious targets.

Living near areas with wild animals might also be helpful, but hunting would be extremely dangerous. There would be lots of other people with guns, who might be desperate enough to eat humans...

I bet 99.9% of so-called "preppers" are not prepared to survive an EMP...
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Re: first three things after an EMP?
Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions?
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Stores will most likely take cash the first few days, since the attendants are too mentally numb to notice an EMP occurred.
 Quoting: Zedakah



Good luck on attendants showing up for work. Your lucky to get them to come to work even when their vehicles are working. After an EMP, nobody gets paid...

No ticky, no shirty....

Nobody works for free....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70330199


Most people will still be attending the stores during an EMP. And the second day, the looters come, so you have to be quick.

Also, since you don't know the actual strength of the EMP, you don't know how many vehicles will work. Maybe 90% will be gone, maybe 50%. Maybe disconnecting the battery and resetting the CPU will get the car going, maybe not. There's no one EMP scenario to prepare for, so that's why you prepare for the worst. That said, the worst probably won't happen, but somewhere between.
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09/14/2015 09:51 PM

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Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions?
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I live in the country. There are plenty of small mom and pop food stores,corner stores. If you have cash you might as well get rid of it. Either that or save it for tp
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Re: first three things after an EMP?
Don't you think there's going to be danger on the streets to try and get through? I do. I'd rather not have to go out in public after a disaster, and I won't need to.

And while there may be some stores attempting to do business, if they haven't already been robbed of everything, I think there are going to be more store owners gathering their families and taking care of their own after such an EMP hit and disaster.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


The majority of people where I live will stick their fingers up their bums for about 3 days until they run out of food/water. I live 1/2 mile away from some good local stores, so I can walk there and ride the shopping cart back if needed in under an hour. I also have access to a fleet services and hopefully can find at least one vehicle of the hundreds that will work if mine or my neighbors won't start.
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Re: first three things after an EMP?
Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions?
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Stores will most likely take cash the first few days, since the attendants are too mentally numb to notice an EMP occurred.
 Quoting: Zedakah



Good luck on attendants showing up for work. Your lucky to get them to come to work even when their vehicles are working. After an EMP, nobody gets paid...

No ticky, no shirty....

Nobody works for free....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70330199


Most people will still be attending the stores during an EMP. And the second day, the looters come, so you have to be quick.

Also, since you don't know the actual strength of the EMP, you don't know how many vehicles will work. Maybe 90% will be gone, maybe 50%. Maybe disconnecting the battery and resetting the CPU will get the car going, maybe not. There's no one EMP scenario to prepare for, so that's why you prepare for the worst. That said, the worst probably won't happen, but somewhere between.
 Quoting: Zedakah



You probably don't realize that an EMP pulse that would shut down technology is also going to affect people's brain functions.

If a strong EMP pulse hits people are going to become ill and/or crazed very quickly.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller


...I adapt to the unknown,
under wandering stars I've grown,
by myself, but not alone...

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Re: first three things after an EMP?
Vehicles won't work unless they are really old and have a carburetor. Cars have had ECU's for 20+ years now. All fuel injected cars rely on one.

Really the only way you'll survive is if you have:

- A house in a fairly rural area
- Weapons and lots of ammo to defend yourself(and at least one person awake at all times)
- A lot of trees nearby for firewood(in Canada at least, it gets cold!)
- Enough food and water for several months(does anyone actually do this?)

Gardens and livestock would help, but people will try to steal it. Farms would become very obvious targets.

Living near areas with wild animals might also be helpful, but hunting would be extremely dangerous. There would be lots of other people with guns, who might be desperate enough to eat humans...

I bet 99.9% of so-called "preppers" are not prepared to survive an EMP...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70240972


I am.
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A lot of preppers won't survive and the majority of ordinary people would also perish. They lack basic skills..

The only ones that have half a chance are the Amish people...

They've been living without power for generations....
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Re: first three things after an EMP?
Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions?
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Did you ever read "One Second After"?
 Quoting: Michele B



Nope. What does the book relate about going to a store to make purchases?



Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions?
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Stores will most likely take cash the first few days, since the attendants are too mentally numb to notice an EMP occurred.
 Quoting: Zedakah



Don't you think there's going to be danger on the streets to try and get through? I do. I'd rather not have to go out in public after a disaster, and I won't need to.

And while there may be some stores attempting to do business, if they haven't already been robbed of everything, I think there are going to be more store owners gathering their families and taking care of their own after such an EMP hit and disaster.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy



far as I remember, not long. Medicines ran out fast. Nursing homes, people keeled over fast. You really need to read this book. Its not woo woo...very realistic scenario.
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Re: first three things after an EMP?
Don't you think there's going to be danger on the streets to try and get through? I do. I'd rather not have to go out in public after a disaster, and I won't need to.

And while there may be some stores attempting to do business, if they haven't already been robbed of everything, I think there are going to be more store owners gathering their families and taking care of their own after such an EMP hit and disaster.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


The majority of people where I live will stick their fingers up their bums for about 3 days until they run out of food/water. I live 1/2 mile away from some good local stores, so I can walk there and ride the shopping cart back if needed in under an hour. I also have access to a fleet services and hopefully can find at least one vehicle of the hundreds that will work if mine or my neighbors won't start.
 Quoting: Zedakah



Hookay, you don't want to prepare in advance and take your chances "out there," your choice.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller


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Re: first three things after an EMP?
You probably don't realize that an EMP pulse that would shut down technology is also going to affect people's brain functions.

If a strong EMP pulse hits people are going to become ill and/or crazed very quickly.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


I live in a college town in a "diverse" area in the deep South. I have to deal with that scenario on a daily basis. I also never leave my place unprepared, since I hear gunshots from my apartment about as often as the bands practicing.

Hookay, you don't want to prepare in advance and take your chances "out there," your choice.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy



I make under $20k a year in a tiny apartment. I'm as prepared as I can possibly be with my resources. I've got enough preps to stuff my vehicle full and head out with spare room for big bags of rice/beans and other things to buy. I do have a family safe zone that is ultra prepared as long as I can get there.

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Re: first three things after an EMP?
I've watched people. They are stupid. It would be at least a day before people realized the power wasn't coming back on and started to panic. Probably even longer for some.
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Re: first three things after an EMP?
1. unwrap my short wave radio and geiger counter from EMP storage.

2. make a long wire antenna for my radio.

3. monitor the situation and start taking pencil notes.
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Re: first three things after an EMP?
Find as many working vehicles as possible, then start loading them up with supplies to take to our safe place. (which includes buying up 50lb bags of rice/flour/sugar from local stores).
 Quoting: Zedakah


If you actually have a car that works after an EMP the last thing in the world you would want to do is go out looking for food in it.

Cover it in tree branches, whatever you can find to cover it if you don't have a garage and wait it out.

It will be the most valuable commodity in your state in no time flat, and if you think those hispanic gardeners who come around and leaf blow once a month don't know your every damn move you're mistaken.
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Re: first three things after an EMP?
Most stores wont be functioning if they can't scan the bar codes.

I do know of a thrift bakery that may still function & the tobacco shop (possibly).

I would most likely:

1- drive my truck to the back yard (hide it).
2- load every rifle/shot gun & lock the gate & doors.
3- fill every imaginable container with water.

Once all that was done I would start concerning myself with family.
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Re: first three things after an EMP?
Why do you guys think going to a store is going to be a viable idea or wise move after an EMP of grave proportions?
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Stores will most likely take cash the first few days, since the attendants are too mentally numb to notice an EMP occurred.
 Quoting: Zedakah



Good luck on attendants showing up for work. Your lucky to get them to come to work even when their vehicles are working. After an EMP, nobody gets paid...

No ticky, no shirty....

Nobody works for free....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70330199


Most people will still be attending the stores during an EMP. And the second day, the looters come, so you have to be quick.

Also, since you don't know the actual strength of the EMP, you don't know how many vehicles will work. Maybe 90% will be gone, maybe 50%. Maybe disconnecting the battery and resetting the CPU will get the car going, maybe not. There's no one EMP scenario to prepare for, so that's why you prepare for the worst. That said, the worst probably won't happen, but somewhere between.
 Quoting: Zedakah



All gas stations will be closed. How many people typically have a full tank of gas at any given time....

If you leave your car in a store parking lot, people will steal your gas. If you catch them and say anything, they will shoot you....

Best not to risk any ventures, away from your home, after an EMP unless it is to get relatives to safety....
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Re: first three things after an EMP?
1. Change your underwear





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