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Do miscarried IVF created zygotes/fetuses go to heaven?

 
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09/16/2015 07:11 PM
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Do miscarried IVF created zygotes/fetuses go to heaven?
Might seem like a stupid question but I'm curious as to what others think. I won't judge anyone for their answer, I will just read through.
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Re: Do miscarried IVF created zygotes/fetuses go to heaven?
I ask because I wonder if Christians/heaven believers believe that all unnaturally created babies go to heaven as well as the naturally created ones or not.
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09/16/2015 07:15 PM
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Re: Do miscarried IVF created zygotes/fetuses go to heaven?
There are precisely zero data-sources to answer this question.

The "principle" of the Bible is love and that life is precious.

So, it's up to God to decide an answer to this question, and we become fools by offering an "answer".
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09/16/2015 07:16 PM
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Re: Do miscarried IVF created zygotes/fetuses go to heaven?
Yes... humans are the ones in the wrong here.
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09/16/2015 07:23 PM
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Re: Do miscarried IVF created zygotes/fetuses go to heaven?
I ask because I wonder if Christians/heaven believers believe that all unnaturally created babies go to heaven as well as the naturally created ones or not.
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Well, I don't really know the answer.

I have faith in God, and according to the bible "I knew your name in the womb" or something like that. I'm not a bible thumper.

I assume this to mean that if something hadn't have happened to the fetus, then it would have grown into a spiritual being. When it becomes a spiritual being seems to be at conception. So because of our extremely limited understanding of the universe and time, we can't we past these scenarios.

Everything is always yes or no to us kind of like a binary. This what is so promising about quantum computing because of all the options in between "1" and "0".

We just need to keep an open mind and try and understand things and look at all the angles.

What if in another reality, this fetus did grow into a full adult and accepted Christ. Would only that version go to heaven?
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09/16/2015 07:26 PM
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Re: Do miscarried IVF created zygotes/fetuses go to heaven?
There are precisely zero data-sources to answer this question.

The "principle" of the Bible is love and that life is precious.

So, it's up to God to decide an answer to this question, and we become fools by offering an "answer".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10887564


i dunno, these objects are artificially created-
do they even have a soul ?
and i'm not being sarcastic and snarky either..

would love to participate further in this talk as it is a damn good topic,
but when i have had a great time out here and NOT BEEN ARGUING EITHER,
just good give and take--
i get bammed. hiding


stalking harassing ????
i don't do that. what purpose does that serve anyway ?
so i will come back and READ and restrain myself.

and again-OP ???this is a good topic to explore and expand upon.
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09/16/2015 07:37 PM
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Re: Do miscarried IVF created zygotes/fetuses go to heaven?
It is a good topic, one thing that just peaked my curiosity was "artificial" creation part.

I don't want to derail this topic but would artificial intelligence have a soul?

I mean just because it's not biological doesn't men that it couldn't develope some sort of spiritual understanding.

I think this all boils down to is where does a soul originate, and we just don't have that answer right now.
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09/16/2015 07:42 PM

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Re: Do miscarried IVF created zygotes/fetuses go to heaven?
Have no proof, only beliefs.

I believe the souls enter as soon as the heart begins to beat. The soul comes from heaven; if the baby does not survive to birth, the soul returns to heaven.
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Re: Do miscarried IVF created zygotes/fetuses go to heaven?
It is a good topic, one thing that just peaked my curiosity was "artificial" creation part.

I don't want to derail this topic but would artificial intelligence have a soul?

I mean just because it's not biological doesn't men that it couldn't develope some sort of spiritual understanding.

I think this all boils down to is where does a soul originate, and we just don't have that answer right now.
 Quoting: Buellmph


They are not artificial babies , they are very real. The doctor takes one real egg and some real sperm and puts them together in a petri dish. The ONLY thing artificial is the environment where the sperm met the egg, instead of in a bedroom it`s in a glass dish. The babies that result are just as real as any other babies. They have souls.
I think fetuses do go to heaven if something goes wrong and they don`t make it out as a baby.
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Re: Do miscarried IVF created zygotes/fetuses go to heaven?
There are precisely zero data-sources to answer this question.

The "principle" of the Bible is love and that life is precious.

So, it's up to God to decide an answer to this question, and we become fools by offering an "answer".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10887564


i dunno, these objects are artificially created-
do they even have a soul ?
and i'm not being sarcastic and snarky either..

would love to participate further in this talk as it is a damn good topic,
but when i have had a great time out here and NOT BEEN ARGUING EITHER,
just good give and take--
i get bammed. hiding


stalking harassing ????
i don't do that. what purpose does that serve anyway ?
so i will come back and READ and restrain myself.

and again-OP ???this is a good topic to explore and expand upon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69943827


I honestly don't know if they have souls or not, though the artificial part of the conception makes my gut sometimes say no. I've never met an IVF person so I can't say for sure.

Think it's an interesting topic too, why I started the thread.

You've all given good answers so far.





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